+Lukas Graphen Unfortunately the effects are; brief, to say the least.

lmao

Lukas Graphen HAHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHHA LOVE IT

Damn I need to get one ASAP LMAO

but u sleep almost immediately after that May even forever

Lmao

what a story,youtube at its finest.

Thanks for sharing, laughed my arse off

Biggerbadwolf What is truly amazing is that you're still alive to tell us.

nice to see a fellow South African

+Lord Sandwich I ended up buying a whole load of different ones.

Dangerous, but not risky.

+Cereal Experiments Yeah, I'm waiting on a few different versions of the baby heaters to arrive. Nice bright kiddie colours too.

+Cereal Experiments Heh, it says "when using this product, please do not touch the surface of the water to prevent electric shock!" Thanks for the warning guys.

+Cereal Experiments Just don't throw the baby out with the electrified bathwater

+bigclivedotcom ist this: www.ebay.com/itm/Bathtub-Baby-Swimming-Pool-Water-Quick-Heater-Heating-Tube-New-Hot-VHGFDF-56-/400973450717 actually the same thing or does it heaat the water more safely?

+Tatanan0 I later bought one, that looks the same as the one I bought and it is essentially the same as the one +bigclivedotcom reviewed. Was an open circuit before putting it in the water, pulled about 450 W on my 120 V power in a bucket of tap water. It felt pretty durable, but I don't think I would want to actually use it!

@Josh G I thought it was the infamous Chinese Anal Probe Of Death...........

I mean... If you're brave enough...@

I bet you have had a good time though

@ _hole warmer_

Yeah, pretty much what I thought. The Chinese have apparently made many innovations in torture since the days of dripping water on someone's head until they go insane or shoving bamboo under someone's fingernails.

+mikeselectricstuff I'm beginning to think you're a masochist. XD

No probs. Just buy three and add a couple of cable ties. (I bet you bought one!)

+mikeselectricstuff Yeh 3 phase 750v~ insta boil!

mikeselectricstuff In centrepoint earthed networks, a 3-phase one would leave the water at near zero voltage, assuming all 3 electrodes in the same poker. (Same thing with these ones in a US 220V socket). But in a pure triangle network with 220V between phases and no certainty about which is grounded by accident (like in rural Norway), plugging this into a regular socket would randomly provide no voltage, 110V water or 190V water. If it starts at no voltage, it will change the moment someone in another house plugs in theirs in a different phase pair. Really exciting. Sorry about the necroposting.

Do you want your tea to boil, or explode?

I was thinking exactly the same, no way I'd be drinking that water. It'd be interesting if big clive could get the water analyzed before and after to see whats there.

@@SuprSi yeah I would love to see what's actually in the water after its been heated up.

Electrolytic decomposition is not very efficient; after a minute or two they all turn into kettles. Even when you do manage to split hydrogen and oxygen, the odds are, 90% of what you're causing is merely steam. If you want to split hydrogen and oxygen efficiently, you need to first boil the water up to about 700-800 degrees celsius (pressurised steam if you will; this is thousands fahrenheit) ... and then pass a low voltage, high current through it. That's what's done commercially, and fwiw you can't do it with a car (at least, not unless you also have a nuclear reactor strapped to your car, which probably means you don't need the hydrogen boost lol)...

@@sebastianramadan8393 yeah you can definitely make the process more efficient but I know it's pretty easy to do it at STP so I'd suspect that this would be more then enough for the reaction to take place (seeing as I've done very half assed with a power supply from a computer), not enough to do anything commercially but I'd be surprised if you didn't find some trace metals from it

@Soggy Tangent But I thought that electrolysis cannot happen on alternating current. Maybe it has to be higher frequency or something.

The point is, you're "electrocuted" if you touch the water. That's insane.

@@Eeda01 so don't touch the water

@@lauratiso Duh

@@lauratiso the voice of reason.

@@jakehughes1369, I said it more as a joke, but I remembered I live in Brazil and I use a suicide shower every day, twice per day during the summer.

you're gonna poison yourself cause of the copper wires i think

@@peters.9371 He would save a fortune then

That will definitely poison you cause it changes the chemical formula

Definitely increase your inductance. Or decrease your resistance

+Larry Bundy Jr So I assume you drank it :D

Larry Bundy Jr Did it remove toxins from your body?

Electrolysis

My word, what’re you doing here?

You could use it to "prove" your tapwater appears deadly unclean, so you absolutely must spend thousands on reverse osmosis water filters which will save you from rust :P

+PuchMaxi1988 Shows some promise as a fish cooker but!

+PuchMaxi1988 Fish would be fine as no earth to them - the heat is another thing of course!!

+Peter Kay Voltage gradient would be a real bummer for longer fish.

+PuchMaxi1988 Competition, electric eels vs. heater.

+dopiaza2006 What about goldfish? MUST_TRY_IT

+PietjePuk You do know that most of the shit you use is made in China, right?

Bah! A bit of lead never hurt anyone 😉

+PietjePuk And on component level?

+PietjePuk All made in China, poppet.

I'm sure the actual metal particles that are being disassociated into the water are fine right?

eBay is promoting the Darwin Awards

They don't care. They get revenue. That's what's important.

+jusb1066 The mere thought makes me cringe

Guantanamo bay edition

+jusb1066 Ultimate 2016 0.5KW Edition

+dgedi78 also seems to be my most popular comment of all time! lol

+jusb1066 I think you might be violently reminded what 230V feels like in your bum if you try that...

Icathiann I doubt anything would happen

Yeah it dissapates wuickly

@Danny Blue No. FYI, Hydrogen is technically rocket fuel. The reason the flame would go out if it were exposed to a container of pure Hydrogen is because combustion requires the presence of Oxygen. That is not what we have here. Here we have BOTH Oxygen and Hydrogen being produced by the reaction *plus* the atmospheric Oxygen available as the Hydrogen disperses.

Danny Blue in that case I suggest you go and subscribe yourself to Scott Manley and have a flick through his videos. Enjoy your soon-to-be newfound love of rocket science :)

Nobody outside the united states is called "Chad"... not even in Chad.

you still get them

Surprise surprise, he just made a video about the hot dogger

Holy fuck. Metal electrolyzed sausage, yummy.

@@Sypaka 111 / 5000 Übersetzungsergebnisse Electricians on construction sites also use this trick in Germany, hot sausages in an even shorter time with 230V

I had to confiscate a pair of blackened forks someone at the makerspace had welded to a plug in in a misguided attempt to make their own hot dogger. It had tripped the breaker on more than one occasion

+Lavikka Photography and oxygen. fuck no fuck this

+Lavikka Photography I wondered if there would be some electrolysis too. That could do "interesting" things to the chemical composition of any dissolved minerals.

+Lavikka Photography according to Wikipedia, 99.9% of the energy goes into heating the water. I have studied some electrochemistry and electrolysis requires a DC potential to consistently separate the ions formed. In this kind of AC environment, the H+ and OH- ions get separated, then pushed right back towards each other on the reverse part of the cycle, so very little, if any, water gets elecrolysed. In addition, any oxides on the electrodes would very likely act as catalysts to recombine any gas that does form, just like in a fuel cell.

That's what I'm talking about. The water there is very soft but add it to tea or coffee. Those bubbles coming off.... Put a lid on it will a small hole and see if it explodes with a little flame. Hmmm.

+Lavikka Photography Sorry If my explanation was not clear. In short, mains AC current running through water will NOT form any hydrogen or oxygen. That ONLY happens with DC.

+Slot1Gamer Such power boards are ridiculously expensive in Germany. A 3-Way one at least 6 EUR!!

+BloodySword for 6€ u get one with a nice 0,75mm² or maybe 1mm² cable but i would not trust the grounding...

+SchiggyoO Yeah, you must pay a fortune here for these things to have a decent one. WHY? EVERYTHING is at least 4x more expensive here in GER...

+BloodySword Does not matter where u are, when its cheap and from ebay you can not expect good things in most cases. Qualitiy comes with a price, this does apply everwhere. And not everything is four times the price here.

+SchiggyoO I always buy electrical stuff in tool stores, and not cheap. But the same power board cost 25% in other countries than here...

+mikeselectricstuff Oh yes! Please do! And wear one of those Doctor Who vintage "are you my mummy?" gas masks so save your lungs and your eyebrows. :)

Strangely enough I was thinking of trying that Not sure it'll produce enough, but only one way to find out.

+Mark Warbington I'm more concerned about the beard. It always looks much more dramatic than mere eyebrows after incidents involving combustible gasses and fumes.

+mikeselectricstuff Now it's AC current, so will electrolysis even happen before the hydrogen and oxygen immediately recombine into water? I'm not so sure??

+Elliott Veares I wondered that and put "AC electrolysis" into a search engine. Interesting way to spend an afternoon...

hahaha

Just laughed a little too hard... may have wee'd a little.

@@nuckingfuts27 2016 comment, but I appreciate your username. 👍 Aussie? Kiwi? Pom?

@@sixstringedthing ha ha yeah a pom . I take it your down under then ? Lol

@@nuckingfuts27 Yeah mate, arse end, for now anyway. Actually born a Kiwi, turned Aussie by way of Orpington, Kent. Long story. Hope to get back to the old country one of these precious few, you folks have still got some proper pubs with good old grub and music and all, is what I hear. Peace. ;)

I have a video of a hot dogger on 240V.

Absolut.

Yep, two bits of bed spring and a twin-blade disposable razor, maybe a tiny pinch of salt for speeding the process along and your good to go, so I'm told.

I'm glad not to be the only one who sees this.

+gogear131 If I didn't know any better, I'd say Clive invented Ohm's law.

I use KZfaq studio to see all comments. I try to respond to as many as possible.

or up your bum

I was thinking this. Like soup, with lots of sodium.

+thechosendude Yes, the soup is perfect, this heater it is quite logical to use for heating soup, and the soup is quite salty. So it would be interesting to see what would happen if an ordinary person would buy this heater and want to warm up soup or other salty liquid.

+zapilimne OMG YES, I wonder if it will go up to a few kW .. that would result in some violent boiling! XDDD

+Benjamin “Ozias” Esposti With a few kW, it might even trip the circuit breaker.

nagi603 Ya .. then you just gotta do what Photonicinduction does! Put it on a big breaker! Actually, I think Clive should send this to Photon, for some extreme torture! :DDD

+frollard Would be interesting to throw in a match and see if it pops.

+frollard electrolsysis only works on DC, then it would also dissolve one of the electrodes.

+gamerpaddy While not traditional electrolysis many cells do operate on AC in order to get mixed H2 and O2 gasses. It all depends on getting the current, frequency, and electrolyte correct such that the bubbles are ripped off the electrode by the ferocity of the ac phase. That way the bubble is not annihilated by the opposite phase.

+frollard Exactly. In this case the frequency is wrong. According to Wikipedia, 99.9% of the energy goes into heating the water. In this kind of AC environment, the H+ and OH- ions get separated, then pushed right back towards each other on the reverse part of the cycle, so very little, if any, water gets elecrolysed. In addition, any oxides on the electrodes would very likely act as catalysts to recombine any gas that does form, just like in a fuel cell. Here is a paper explaining how AC electrolysis can work: www.iosrjen.org/Papers/vol3_issue8%20(part-2)/I03825259.pdf It is all rather complicated, and I would certainly not feel safe using such a product since I have no confidence that the manufacturer has done anything to understand the issues involved.

+seth094978 I would argue that you induce the same amount of electrolysis at 220v DC as 220v rms AC at 50hz; nothing more or less will happen until you increase the frequency to hundreds of kilohertz. The only difference is that both gasses will get generated at each electrode through a complete AC cycle (but not at the same time). Slow frequency AC electrolysis is just DC electrolysis with the direction switching; phase isn't relevant at low sinus frequencies. Somewhere at hundreds of kilohertz, if you mix two specific differing frequencies, you can additionally make the H2 pair split using the same amount of energy, but you can generate significantly more energy with true HHO gas compared to a H2 and O mix from regular electrolysis. The oxides wont make the freed gas return to water.

Our some copper poisoning from the copper wires in the thing electrolizing

hmmm, fortified water. Gotta get your 5 a day metals xD

Yeah. I think a lot of people did that. There's something delightfully appealing about them.

@@bigclivedotcom I've been trying to find a way to kill myself anyway. 😁

+cjmillsnun Yep, the 10 second toaster too. He should market those to China, he be rich in seconds!!

+THE VERY BEST OF KZfaq Come on now, both Photonic and Clive are both in real life professional electrical and trained, they both have differences in approach to what they do. Clive goes way back, he invented the Joule Thief circuit.

+cjmillsnun This is much more dangerous as it is passing current through the medium you are heating. Potentially DEADLY. Photonicinduction's 10 second Kettle was just a regular Electric kettle which was driven at three times its max. power rating until it popped.

I'm not arguing with you Erik. Photon's kettle was safe as it was in controlled circumstances. This thing is lethal.

+jusb1066 I'm sure Clive never made the street lights dim!

Holy shit what gold

😒😒😒😒😒😒😒

Bunny (∞) an “englishman” who calls himself bunny and has a picture of a japanese cartoon girl 🤙🏾

Bunny (∞) get a grip son - fellow Englishman

That was tested with detergent to catch the gas in foam, and it was just steam.

+TheUnnamedGent correct

+TheUnnamedGent An accumulated mix of hydrogen and oxygen. What could go wrong?

+TheUnnamedGent Ye, hydrogen and oxygen, if you are lucky. If you are boiling water with sodium chloride (Table salt), in it, you will be producing hydrogen and chlorine gas (used as a chemical weapon during ww I)! Electrocution, flameable gasses, and chemical weapon, all in one present from china! No wonder Clive is excited! :D

+TheUnnamedGent ooh yes... put a match to that foam at the end of the video!

+Wuptidoo plus some sodium hydroxide solution. What's not to like?

+Class FM Morning Show Adások Archívuma Best of China! :)

Yes it should work, but would take a lot longer.

It will absolutely work, we used a very similar device made out of nail clippers, a toothbrush, rubber gloves, and an old extension cord or really any two wires that can be stuck into an outlet to heat water in jail. Though we would also add ramen noodle seasoning and/or laundry detergent to the water, I'm assuming the sodium in the seasoning and the chlorine in the detergent allow more current to pass through the water. It only has two electrodes vs the at least 6 on this consumer style model (obviously ours looked nothing like this and almost always ran on really thin gauge wire, which I believe reduces the amount of current that can possibly come through) and it would take about ten minutes to boil water inside an old fluff container (1 lb container) and that would then boil water we had inside of a sealed rice bag (the ramen noodle seasoning/laundry detergent water is pretty nasty, especially after electricity is run through via scavenged metal, so we always used a double boiler set up). Thing was dangerous as fuck, it's called a stinger because of the 60hz (or 120, I think 120 actually) "stinging" noise that it makes when plugged in and immersed in water.

Ita a 120v plug not a 240 this guy is actualy dangerous

​@ Yeah, sure: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p5iiY6p-u6e7qX0.html This uses razor blades and toothpicks instead of nail clippers and toothbrush plastic for the obvious reasons of no one is giving you an unaccounted for razor blade in prison. Also, you are misunderstanding what is actually happening, imagine an empty container of marshmallow fluff, now you fill it with water, add pretty much any chemical that lowers the resistance of the water (powdered laundry detergent occasionally but most commonlyramen noodle seasoning because it's so abundant and salty), dip in the stinger, and let it start to boil. In the meantime, you take an airtight plastic pouch (or another smaller container), which are in abundance as many commissary items like rice come in them, and you put your ingredients inside the pouch, seal it, and then insert it into the boiling container of marshmallow fluff for however long it needs to be boiled for. You are effectively double boiling it, so the food never comes into contact with the conducting water. You could use just clean water if you wanted to, there was more than enough shit in the pipes that came through that would probably conduct decently well, it's just way slower and where I was a CO came by every ~15-30 minutes and looked through our cell door window. You could try to hide it when your cellmate tells you they're coming but it's not worth the risk and they can usually smell it, so getting the water boiling in 30 seconds and the food cooked in less than 5 minutes was definitely the way to go.

+Cody Hufstetler You would think so (I thought so at first), but that is not the case. See my response to TheUnnamedGent above.

+Koffi Banan Is just standing on some sort of rubber mat enough isolation?

+Koffi Banan the rubber on his boots

Rubber soles

+Ian TheInventor That would have been the heating element type. This is the much dodgier version.

Yes it was a heating element similar to the one in your bath heater video. You have some very interesting videos.

The heating element type have a closed circuit through the element, and ought to be sealed with no exposed low-resistance conductors.

+Ian TheInventor Vehicles normally using lov voltage as i guess You allredy know... Those for operating under 48V (or lover) is legal in my country.

+BillyNoMates1974 Seeing it on the big boy's supply would be interesting, briefly.

+Timothy Sherratt All the way to the "aww... I pop'd it". Unless "flamesss!" :) But yeah, definitely pass it to photon, please Clive! Also would be epic to see two of you having fun with HV (one can hope, right?)

I know thats why I am compelled to watch them :-)

+BillyNoMates1974 I'm not sure if even Photonic could pop this one. It kinda self clears the water out depending on power and can only reach the temperature the water boils at by default. He'd need to use high voltage on it.

415 volts should do it

I bought a few. They are hard to find now.

I think he meant metal electrolysis

You'd probably be somewhat dead.

only 200w just shock

faizan joyia depends on the voltage...

anything above 10 amps is pretty much death

actually anything above .2 amps will kill you if you arent attended to immediately and also voltage wont kill you if there is enough amperage any measure of voltage will kill you

+mcrsit He's isolated from earth, I'm guessing by rubber soles on his shoes. The device has two electrodes inside it, one connected to live, the other to neutral, so the circuit is "mostly" completed by the water inside the plastic shell.

Actually I'm surprised he didn't draw a schematic of it!

+igotes It's a bit more complicated than that. The water between the electrodes forms a potential divider and the rough centre tap of that is connected to by a higher resistance path of water. I'd still potentially get a major full-on mains shock if I touched any grounded surface.

Great description. I hadn't actually thought of it like that. I was surprised you didn't draw a schematic!

Shit, I already said that, haha.

+Tim Boxall Technically speaking my body became live at 120V, but as I was completely isolated from any return path to ground I did not pass much current. If I had touched something grounded simultaneously I would have received a significant shock.

+bigclivedotcom can u explain that in non electrician words, please? :]

+bigclivedotcom u didnt touch the ground basically?

+RAFPony I was standing on wood plus carpet plus rubber soled footwear (crocs) so there was no easy route for the electricity to flow back to the general mass of earth or associated metalwork. But current will flow in any path it can find, so that should never be done routinely. A very small current did flow when I touched the spoon, but just tens of microamps.

+bigclivedotcom Could you measure yourself with a multimeter, or would that ground you enough for lethal current to flow?