Deformable light with anti-seepage. (with schematic)

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3 жыл бұрын

It's definitely deformable, but I'm not sure how this unit prevents seepage, or even what they mean by that.
This is a folding lamp that can be angled to suit the area you want illuminated, while also conveniently fitting into a small shipping box.
The construction seems OK, although the power dissipation and plastic casing is a bit concerning for LED longevity.
The driver layout looks OK and is quite neat.
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@Mountain-Man-3000 3 жыл бұрын

Finally a way to take care of all the seepage around my lamps!

@RK-kn1ud 3 жыл бұрын

I'm enjoying all the color-coding you've been doing...makes it easier to visualize.

@gregorythomas333 3 жыл бұрын

A friend recently purchased some of these...I will send him your tip about snipping the resistor to increase longevity of them.

@lostjohnny9000 3 жыл бұрын

I've got a couple of these. Nice reversible hinge design but also thin hot plastic. Think I'll try and Dubai it.

@chrisanderson4325 3 жыл бұрын

I saw your comment on PhotonicInduction! I'm so excited he's back!

@Totalinternalreflection 3 жыл бұрын

Omg really? Wow that takes me back a bit! Cheers for the pointer.

@forbiddenera 3 жыл бұрын

Oddly enough I only discovered him like a day before he came back

@GordieGii 3 жыл бұрын

I think the "anti-seepage" is those two 510K resistors that keep it from flickering if there's a little current getting through (or around) the switch.

@tazz1669 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your expertise and insights into its expected lifespan of lack of. Great to hear the potential back to make it last longer

@offdagrid877 3 жыл бұрын

Nice one Clive. Photonicinduction is back

@martinbalmforth2665 3 жыл бұрын

A Clive and Photon vid uploaded today, joy!

@LiLi-or2gm 3 жыл бұрын

I had one of these. It lasted less than two months :( Didn't throw it away though- tossed it in the "maybe later" box.

@SharkoonBln 3 жыл бұрын

Two months? Count yourself lucky :)

@RFC-3514 3 жыл бұрын

I suspect "anti-seepage" was just a dodgy translation of "spill resistant" or something along those lines (i.e., "vaguely sealed design").

@ShinyPeeko 3 жыл бұрын

Anti-seepage meaning sealing or maybe 'ceiling'

@straightpipediesel 3 жыл бұрын

I think it's "moisture resistant". It's an issue in the hot humid parts of China like Shenzhen, moisture will seep in and mold will form. I've actually seen a little of that in my bathroom LEDs.

@johnjoyce 3 жыл бұрын

No. They just write crap on packaging. They don’t much care.

@baucelabs1159 3 жыл бұрын

i agree with your conclusion, but just in case you're curious, i've had two of these exact LED lamps and they're still kicking after about a year and a half now... not on 24/7, but i leave them on by accident in the garage all too often.. so they do run a few days straight now and then

@dudebroham4083 3 жыл бұрын

My wife picked up a couple of these on Amazon for just a few dollars. I thought the same thing that you are saying.I ventilated them with my soldering iron. I haven't had a lick of trouble out of them and I will probably order more for my woodshop.

@TechGorilla1987 3 жыл бұрын

@0:57 "Fer-rrrrrrr-ocious" My favorite bearism to date.

@tikaanipippin 3 жыл бұрын

"Ground Control to Major Spudger. Crack this case, it's quite a bugger..."

@johnmorgan1629 3 жыл бұрын

I think the 8-Bit Guy, used a similar style light in parts of his new studio/workshop, but some with decent output and balance for video.

@stevetobias4890 3 жыл бұрын

I have a couple of these, was going to do a teardown but you saved me the trouble. Thank you, great video.

@rickseiden1 3 жыл бұрын

"It's a huge bulky thing, as I may have mentioned before." "That's what she said."

@f.f.s.d.o.a.7294 3 жыл бұрын

Mine is seeping, should I see a doctor?

@Nono-hk3is 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Clive

@SigEpBlue 3 жыл бұрын

Mmm, deformable _and_ anti-seepage? I'm sold! 🤪 That "chewy" plastic has been ridiculously flammable, in my past experience. Would be nice to see if it holds a flame.

@wimwiddershins 3 жыл бұрын

The fold out panels look suspiciously like they should be made from die cast aluminium. Maybe this is an eBay-dump version of something more durable?

@SeanBZA 3 жыл бұрын

Probably took the aluminium casting mould set and polished it, then used plastic as it is cheaper. Yes drop the power rating and you will improve life, and very likely with half the power there will still be more than 70% of the light emitted.

@martin09091989 3 жыл бұрын

Die casting and plastic injection molding is not compatible at all! I even doubt that they could have reused the CAD design.

@RFC-3514 3 жыл бұрын

@@martin09091989 - The main part of the CAD design is just a negative of the part they're trying to build, so that would be basically the same. But they would have to modify the parts that deal with the actual injection, of course.

@Blubbstock 3 жыл бұрын

@@martin09091989 Aluminium casting molds can be used for plastics without any modifications.

@SuperAWaC 3 жыл бұрын

@@martin09091989 incorrect

@ThorAlexandre 3 жыл бұрын

I have a couple of similar 45w lights, one in the basement workshop and one in the garage. They are great for getting more light without having to put up more lamps, and the horrible cold white is not too much of a problem in a workshop. They do get a little hot, but not enough to burn my fingers and much less than i expected. Had them for well over a year, probably a couple hundred hours on each and no issues so far.

@frankowalker4662 3 жыл бұрын

Nice design, it's a shame the LED's are being over driven with little heat sink.

@WillFuI 3 жыл бұрын

Yea I know it sucks just how many companies do that.

@Flying0Dismount 3 жыл бұрын

You need T-shirts with the Kink Palculator on it

@rolliebca 3 жыл бұрын

Love these videos! Thanks for telling us how to Dubai it.

@pulsar7632 3 жыл бұрын

My guy is killing it with the hearted comments

@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын

Maximum hearts.

@DigitalElectronicsCircuitsLab 3 жыл бұрын

really enjoyed watching the video

@ZillionPrey 3 жыл бұрын

The 8-Bit Guy has some of these in his Studio Shed

@roseelectronics4582 3 жыл бұрын

The globally acclaimed fan light. Great!

@EmbeddedEnigma 3 жыл бұрын

really like your videos, super informative and actually really learned alot from them. Keep doing these reverse engineering video.

@Mr.T4LLY-0 3 жыл бұрын

No FLIR footage to show the hotspots? Bring out your precious. No, the FLIR precious. XD

@DigitalIP 3 жыл бұрын

Love these kinds of lights, definitely a must have for Attics

@tactileslut 3 жыл бұрын

First thought: house fire.

@DigitalIP 3 жыл бұрын

@@tactileslut lol, for straight up chinese versions MAYBE (doubtful), but these lights in general are soooo much better than a normal single LED light.. Even walmart sells a full metal version in store for around $30 or so. They really are great to have in large attics and basements though.

@Thingstest-rl8xu 3 жыл бұрын

@ about 6:20 is 4 band resistor with extra band showing is a "fuse type" similar to Vishay PR02-FS datasheet page 3 @ www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/427/pr02fs-1762753.pdf Other brands for fusible resistor may use different color for 5th band but same thing like Yageo uses white 5th band.

@kirkb4989 3 жыл бұрын

Yay, finally some proper white LEDs!!!

@KirstyTube 3 жыл бұрын

I wish I knew how long one of Big Clive 'moments' were ? Probably a few hours for me lol

@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes minutes, sometimes hours, and for really complex or potted stuff, sometimes days.

@jameslmorehead 3 жыл бұрын

@@bigclivedotcom I've taken to some of your ways of de-potting some stuff for repair and/or upgrades. It's amazing how slowly or quickly things disintegrate depending on if you have chosen the proper solvent. Acetone works well as a starter in most cases. Polystyrene has no idea what hit it. Isopropyl works for final cleanup or on rare/cheap stuff. I also have Ensolve on hand, but that needs special care as it evaporates extraordinarily quick as it's made to clean PCBs after manufacturing.

@XtremeKremaTor 3 жыл бұрын

I'm buying them for extra light for the plants. BUT the ones I am buying have the petals made of metal. They do last for ever mostly. Plastic petals version with 30W draw have lasted for 2 years. After that the capacitor exploded and plastic was all brittle from the heat. I was even going to post it to the big guy

@chrisandrus2735 3 жыл бұрын

I Wouldn’t be surprised if It puts out 60 watts of flames🤣🤣

@twocvbloke 3 жыл бұрын

I do like a light that doesn't have seepage problems, got enough of those with the sewer pipework outside... :P

@ShinyPeeko 3 жыл бұрын

Anti-seepage meaning sealing or maybe 'ceiling'

@mtreis86 3 жыл бұрын

Any chance you'd post a long-form video some time with all of your process for reverse engineering something like this? I notice you use colored pens to mark the solder joints, and am curious how you use that to make the schematic.

@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын

I initially added the colour to help viewers follow the layout, but found it's actually quite useful for reverse engineering too.

@fxm5715 3 жыл бұрын

I was expecting a Starfleet spaceship from the animated thumbnail.

@UnrealVideoDuke 3 жыл бұрын

Was looking for this and found others like it searching for "Multipurpose LED Ceiling Light 60Watt" or "Deformable Ceiling Fixture Light" will give a better result

@curtw8827 3 жыл бұрын

Your bin of E-waste keeps growing.

@electroniquepassion 3 жыл бұрын

Merci 👍

@guyh3403 3 жыл бұрын

Aren't these the ones that 8-bit guy is using? Ferocious white af!

@gustavfenk4021 3 жыл бұрын

Counter-espionage interrogation light - to prevent “seepage” of secrets.

@travcollier 3 жыл бұрын

There are four lights!

@falloutwolfie7229 3 жыл бұрын

I have no idea how i got hear or what im watching but i can't stop watching hes vids. No idea about anything hes talking about tho

@SabretoothBarnacle 3 жыл бұрын

Your view count will go up in a few minutes, everyone's over at PhotonicInduction's channel watching him pop that 5000A fuse 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

@WineScrounger 3 жыл бұрын

I’m so glad he’s doing ok.

@SabretoothBarnacle 3 жыл бұрын

@@WineScrounger indeed. That was quite a comeback video though😅

@AUcameraman 3 жыл бұрын

I have one of the deformable light. If you turn turn the power on-off-on you will go to a lower brightness. 3 settings High Medium Low. No control over the brightness setting. (I hate that). The light is bright at the high setting.

@shlibbermacshlibber4106 3 жыл бұрын

When things are "too easy" bad things happen, like in Alien, check the ceiling

@johndododoe1411 3 жыл бұрын

In this case, the too-easy danger is accidentally knocking the cover off, exposing live circuitry to random people and animals getting too close.

@christonabike2222 3 жыл бұрын

I suppose the anti-seepage is so it can be used in conjunction with the one that shines when man comes.

@harezy 3 жыл бұрын

Would it grow exotic tomatoes 🧐🧐😁

@graemedavidson499 3 жыл бұрын

Anti-seepage design - as in a sealing (ceiling) light…..

@Tayroy 3 жыл бұрын

Boooooooo. I'm angry that I didn't come up with that. lol.

@ericpaul4575 3 жыл бұрын

It’s not a pun it’s a bad translation.

@rexsceleratorum1632 3 жыл бұрын

It's almost like someone translated "ceiling" phonetically into Chi nese and then translated back for the new product.

@HyunMoKoo 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe anti seepage was meant to be anti droop? As in the folding parts won't droop because of gravity.

@marklittler784 3 жыл бұрын

"Ferocious white light! "😂😁😅😃😂😅😃😂

@omarek555 3 жыл бұрын

What about changing the 1.5 ohm resistors to make it lower power, like around 15-20 watts.

@0Light6and3documentary9 3 жыл бұрын

Hello👍🥇🎥👌 thank you! 🙂

@AndyFletcherX31 3 жыл бұрын

The inrush current must be significant with the large rectifier capacitor and only a 0.5 ohm resistor to limit it

@duncanmacdonald6993 3 жыл бұрын

The LED current will be higher than you said. Ignoring losses the current per LED will be given by 48 watts/(3 volts per led x (26 x 3) LEDs) which is 205mA per LED - allowing for losses probably about 170mA per LED.

@johndododoe1411 3 жыл бұрын

You forgot it's 2x26 sets.

@johnsiders7819 3 жыл бұрын

The local farm store was selling the aluminum one like you showed some time ago and one the socket pulled loose and it fell out of it hitting the floor it was just pressed into the housing some thing to look at on there lights

@xxexplosivexxxxexplosivexx8512 3 жыл бұрын

Isn't that the light The 8-Bit guy installed in his studio?

@SpotTiger 3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, anti-seepage! Finally, the lamp that cures incontinence!! 😆

@jessebob325 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe adding some discreet passive ventilation holes would help its active life as well? Break out the Dremel tool! 👍🏻🍻

@PeteRondeau 3 жыл бұрын

Thank goodness for Anti-seepage.

@oskardzida 3 жыл бұрын

My guess is that anti-sipage might be anti-bleed, like light bleed. You can direct the light flux (stream?) a little bit so the translation went by water analogy.

@dcallan812 3 жыл бұрын

Shame its not a ceiling fan and a light. Anti seepage? is that it lets in water but wont it wont come back out? 🤣⛈⛈ Nice video 2x 👍

@frankowalker4662 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, It's cooling for the LED's. :)

@dcallan812 3 жыл бұрын

@@frankowalker4662 👍🤣

@ShinyPeeko 3 жыл бұрын

Anti-seepage meaning sealing or maybe 'ceiling'

@johndododoe1411 3 жыл бұрын

On first hearing it, I presume some way to safely drain out condensation, as mentioned in videos about various outdoor devices that did or didn't deal with the problem.

@brianterrill9587 3 жыл бұрын

I did find a FYL9V that is used in a power supply adapter..

@danlemke6407 3 жыл бұрын

I am surprised that with all the diodes I have seen on Clive's VJs, that there is any free electrons available to operate his equipment! He must be the keeper of polarity...

@snakezdewiggle6084 3 жыл бұрын

Always in awed by the constant variety of these power supplies. And why do these LED lights have to dump so much heat, to be 'efficient' ? (plz excuse my oxymorons, I'm having one of 'those' days). Dam, now I sound like Electroboom. ;)

@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын

Even with high LED efficiency there is still a lot of wasted heat.

@kyoudaiken 3 жыл бұрын

Cutting out the resistor should be viable. Half the power, still 60-70% of the light roughly. I also wonder how good the color reproduction is. If it's CRI/Ra>80 it should be a good lamp if the current is toned down.

@lukedavis436 3 жыл бұрын

they should make these spin

@jerkovicbrate 3 жыл бұрын

Can you measure voltage and current at low voltage side, to give us insight about driver efficiency? Thanks.

@carlyonbay45 3 жыл бұрын

My aunt Sylvia has a problem with seepage

@rexsceleratorum1632 3 жыл бұрын

Be warned that if you snip the resistor to halve the power of the lamp, the automatic "deformable" plastic feature will no longer work as expected.

@d.t.4523 3 жыл бұрын

It only lasted 12 minutes, by my clock! 👍

@mikebirkett010 3 жыл бұрын

Where does the hose connect to the Hopi to test the anti seepage capabilities?

@billybull7419 3 жыл бұрын

Anti-seepage is always good

@ChristopherYee88 3 жыл бұрын

I'm curious. Does the power factor change as the voltage varies from 85v to 240v?

@stridermt2k 3 жыл бұрын

Seepage...it's not Gormenghast's "drainage", but it does have a certain appeal to the lowest of the low.

@JohnSmith-qd8po 3 жыл бұрын

Nothing that an adult diaper couldn't handle ...

@phonotical 3 жыл бұрын

Every capacitor should be purple💜 What was the gt on your calculator?

@H3wastooshort 3 жыл бұрын

I'm guessing "anti-seepage" means that it won't shimmer/glow when there is some current leakage though long switch wires.

@lewisbaynham3858 3 жыл бұрын

Hey buddy im learning electronics will you be doing anymore vids for beginners

@borayurt66 3 жыл бұрын

That could have been a good design if it was the other way round, I mean if the leds were on the upper side, illuminating the ceiling.

@grantrennie 3 жыл бұрын

Have a good day everyone 👍

@hifismiffy 3 жыл бұрын

Looks like a facehugger to me !! hehehe

@WillFuI 3 жыл бұрын

I’m looking to making or finding a power led setup for a computer. I am just stupid when it comes to this kinda of stuff so some help would be nice

@SimonSideburns 3 жыл бұрын

If there are four fold out arms and the central section, and each arm has ten sets of 3 LEDs, that's 40 sets before you add on the central circle. How does the schematic only say 26 sets in this case, or am I missing something?

@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын

Two separate drivers and groups of LEDs. The schematic only shows one driver.

@jayherde0 3 жыл бұрын

@@bigclivedotcom ... Mathematics is on holiday today? ... The central portion has 36 LEDs - 3 don't gazinta 26 ;-) For a 24/7 light ... remove the surface mount resister and replace the through hole resister with a 2 or 3 ohm ? I can see getting some of these now that we know how they work.

@SimonSideburns 3 жыл бұрын

@@bigclivedotcom Yes, that makes perfect sense. Thanks for the explanation.

@johndododoe1411 3 жыл бұрын

@@jayherde0 Half the central section has 6 sets of 3, plus 2x10 such sections in wings = 26 sets per half circuit = 52 sets total of 3 chips = 156 yellow LED chips receiving 0.5W power each and emitting some as light, rest as waste heat.

@JohnSmith-tr9us 3 жыл бұрын

Apparently seepage is a big issue for a segment of the population.

@mohinderkaur6671 3 жыл бұрын

ceiling repurposed into a lamp?

@peterdupont7559 3 жыл бұрын

Sadly I thought that this was a more advanced "loft propeller" with some disco-light to enhance whatever you are doing above the sheets.

@andyleatherbarrow7322 3 жыл бұрын

How much did it cost?

@gideon4747 3 жыл бұрын

Hey clive, ive recently bought a "driverless LED" for my microwave light. It just looks like a big yellow diode with two wires going directly to the 120 ac pins. No circuitry at all from what I can see. It flickers at lower light settings, at what i can only assume is lower voltages. Can you go over this and maybe tear one down? Thanks!

@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын

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@magnfrejensson2035 3 жыл бұрын

How about drill a hole for fan and som holes for hot air to escape from the wings light? It is possible?

@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын

I used to drill ventilation holes in the bases of compact fluorescent lamps.

@ernstoud 3 жыл бұрын

No seepage, but does it shine when man comes?

@jongmassey 3 жыл бұрын

Oh no!

@luchococ 3 жыл бұрын

I don't trust led lights that don't show vents for heat dissipation

@kiefac 3 жыл бұрын

Do they mean "anti leakage"? As in current leakage?

@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure.

@xenonram 3 жыл бұрын

"Seepage" not leakage

@kiefac 3 жыл бұрын

@@xenonram I know what it says, but it's a bad translation of Chinese to English, soo...

@phcoh 3 жыл бұрын

Isn't the black band after the gold a tolerance I believe black was 1% in my day.

@dgsurfer 3 жыл бұрын

as most electronics have low voltage DC transformers, would there be any advantage of having low voltage DC running from your fuses box, to outlets and lights

@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын

A whole house power factor corrected 24 or 48V supply could be useful.

@EverBeyondRadio 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 12v power cable running from my solar panel collectors. My girlfriend doesn't like it but we run night lights for the bathroom and charge our mobile phones from it.

@johndododoe1411 3 жыл бұрын

Big problem is that to carry the same number of Watts, the wiring and plugs must be thicker to handle the current. Then there's also the need to calculate and check voltage drop between power source and circuit, as many gadgets won't like getting only 8V instead of 12V due to something else pulling 4A (50W) through 1ohm of wiring.