Chaos Rising - Jonah Betrayal

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BigDickCheney

BigDickCheney

13 жыл бұрын

The man who has nothing can still have faith.
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@dark7element
@dark7element 13 жыл бұрын
"Jonah is right here, infant... I can hear him screaming." One of the most chilling lines of any Dawn of War game. And perfectly delivered.
@TheSonOfDumb
@TheSonOfDumb Жыл бұрын
Calling a space marine - a demigod of war in any other setting - an "infant." God, that's why I love the 40k universe.
@HalfTangible
@HalfTangible 11 ай бұрын
@@TheSonOfDumb That too, but "I can hear him screaming" is so friggen RAW
@blastermaster5039
@blastermaster5039 5 ай бұрын
The fact that Thaddeus himself called out the entity as not a 'who' but a 'what' also sends an extra chill to me.
@THEGRUMPTRUCK
@THEGRUMPTRUCK 8 жыл бұрын
Jonah orion lost his body, but his soul was not conquered. he was loyal to the end, even when possessed. True loyalty to the emperor.
@flankymerc1405
@flankymerc1405 8 жыл бұрын
lore wise the emperor in life promoted atheism sayng that humanity needs no gods so chances are Orion is now feeding the chaos gods
@HalfTangible
@HalfTangible 8 жыл бұрын
Not exactly, Flanky - while the Emperor didn't want to be worshipped in life, this is because the 40k universe is fueled in large part on belief. If a large enough number of soul-bearing beings believe that something will work, it will work. Thus, if enough of the human race believed that the Chaos Gods did not exist, they would become irrelevant and starve to death. (This is also why most of 40k's ships look like churches - the denizens believe it will protect them from demons, so it does. Also the gellar field, but the church shape doesn't hurt matters). Now that he's dead and the Imperial Cult has spread throughout the Imperium, his soul is persisted in no small part through faith. As such, he IS a god now within the Warp - a god of Order, as it happens. This all depends on how you interpret the lore, of course, but it's undeniable that the Imperium's faith has an effect on the world (see Sisters of Battle).
@flankymerc1405
@flankymerc1405 8 жыл бұрын
HalfTangible you make an interesting point i will think about this it is true tho that the warp worcks exacly as you describe
@justwannabehappy6735
@justwannabehappy6735 7 жыл бұрын
Eh, no. The Emperor is no God. The only thing keeping him alive is the Golden Throne. Even if all humanity was praising him, he is no god nor can become one. As soon as he dies, he will be devoured, like any human soul.
@nachomanrandy
@nachomanrandy 7 жыл бұрын
He is pretty much a terminal pacient in life support in reality, but a God inside the warp. Keeping the imperium somewhat face from demon invasions and allowing warp travel.
@THEGRUMPTRUCK
@THEGRUMPTRUCK 10 жыл бұрын
The man who has nothing can still have faith. Oneof the greatest Tarkus lines ever.
@Sir_Bucket
@Sir_Bucket 5 жыл бұрын
It's from DoW1, in the screen which pop when you want to quit the game
@Gerojsk
@Gerojsk 10 жыл бұрын
"I have neglected to inform the Black Legion of your presence." Seems like that blazing Drop Pod falling from orbit is not enough to notice someone is coming, huh Black Legion? Failbaddon´s finest indeed.
@heatseeker9573
@heatseeker9573 6 жыл бұрын
Gerojsk Neah, I'm sure that happens every day.. twice on Sunday.
@Pancombine18
@Pancombine18 4 жыл бұрын
It's just poor relic writing Black Legion is pretty much competent yet with thousands years of experiences this whole we didn't noticed drop pod would apply for world eaters or any other chaos batshit insane warband.
@nevermore7285
@nevermore7285 2 жыл бұрын
Could have assumed it was one of theirs, or other Blood Raven Traitors.
@LordOfGilneas
@LordOfGilneas Ай бұрын
@@Pancombine18 poor 'relic' writing.. heh.. *Sure*
@jsthecanuck6804
@jsthecanuck6804 6 жыл бұрын
"the man who has nothing, can still have faith" bruh that's hella inspirational
@jacobweatherford4696
@jacobweatherford4696 3 жыл бұрын
Thats the space marines for you
@alisonpurgatory85
@alisonpurgatory85 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah who doesn’t want to be a brainwashed child soldier with no life outside of war /s
@ArcaneAzmadi
@ArcaneAzmadi 10 жыл бұрын
Not canon, but the best possible result for the good guys- this is the only way you can complete the campaign with none of your guys actually betraying the chapter, not even Martellus. Jonah goes out like a boss.
@Hectictude
@Hectictude 9 жыл бұрын
TECHNICALLY, Tarkus doesn't betray the chapter. If anything, he is actually doing everything in his power to vanquish the Black Legion, even going as far as using their own weapons against them. For after all, the only power worth betraying your friends for is the power to save them.
@StraightEdgeXVegan
@StraightEdgeXVegan 9 жыл бұрын
Biel-Tan Dire Avenger Exarch Belegan Tarkus Betrayal is not canon either, though. Play Retribution. Canon is Avitus or Thaddeus Betrayal - most likely Avitus.
@Hectictude
@Hectictude 9 жыл бұрын
Arktos Ursus Well, yah. But we're not exactly talking about canon here, just which of the Betrayals we dub to be most kickass.
@ArcaneAzmadi
@ArcaneAzmadi 9 жыл бұрын
Arktos Ursus Not even maybe Thaddeus- Avitus is the confirmed canonical traitor.
@TheManofthecross
@TheManofthecross 8 жыл бұрын
+Arktos Ursus in the cannon it is avitus who betrays the chapters for marcelus remains with the chapter.
@TheGonzoMD
@TheGonzoMD 8 жыл бұрын
I love how the demon straight up lets the BR's attack the Chaos guys for shits and giggles. Poor, dumb Black Legion...
@Papadragon18
@Papadragon18 12 жыл бұрын
The only traitor ending that doesn't result in Avitus freaking out. Shows how good this was.
@BlargTheEnderman
@BlargTheEnderman 2 жыл бұрын
Avitus is true traitor
@DEUS_VULT_INFIDEL
@DEUS_VULT_INFIDEL 12 жыл бұрын
Jonah, the man, was no traitor. His body was corrupt, overtaken by a vile daemon, and used to its' own ends. But his soul, that which makes him "him", refused to yield to the Warps' corruption. In the face of eternal damnation, his faith in his brothers and the Emperor did not falter, and at the price of his soul was another triumph over the Ruinous Powers purchased. So say what you will of his possessed body's actions, but do not dare accuse Jonah Orion of heresy.
@THEGRUMPTRUCK
@THEGRUMPTRUCK 4 жыл бұрын
"I see, you do nothing. It is Jonah." He fights you still daemon. That exchange captured just how bad-ass Jonah Orion is.
@boxtank5288
@boxtank5288 3 жыл бұрын
The Wargear obtained is basically a giant 'FUCK YOU DAEMONS' field.
@alisonpurgatory85
@alisonpurgatory85 2 жыл бұрын
I accuse him of the highest heresy- heresy against his own humanity, the kind that all imperials commit by denying their true nature and souls to serve the repression and brutality of the imperium in the first place. Heresy against love. Heresy against compassion through the imperial xenophobia. Or did not Christ command us to love our neighbors? The neighbor is not only those on ‘our side’. But most of them don’t have a choice, having been brainwashed since birth or youth, or faced with death if they didn’t convert. Just like the major Abrahamic religions in today’s world, that I’m gonna guess by your profile picture, name, fellating the imperium and self important writing style, you’re quite a fan of. Empire and institutional religion has nothing to do with faith. It’s built and sustained on money, murder, greed, suffering, manipulation, abuse, rape and war and self interest. Faith is not a virtue. Faith is the idealization of your oppressor and the love of your slavery. Faith is giving up your will to hope someone else will save you. Faith is thanking an unseen god for scraps of things the rich men hoard, and thinking it is divinely ordained that you get little and they get much.
@alisonpurgatory85
@alisonpurgatory85 2 жыл бұрын
No triumph over the ruinous powers was done that day. The ruinous powers are ruinous because the warp reflects thoughts and feelings. The abuse of the imperium creates such trauma and pain and rage in peoples minds and hearts, trillions suffering under a horrific regime, that their reflection in the warp is that of abused minds that want any vengeance they can on their oppressors- the daemons of the warp are malicious because the abusive imperium breeds it.
@stefanoputignano1555
@stefanoputignano1555 2 жыл бұрын
@@alisonpurgatory85 actually the demons were born after the war of heavens and the imperium of today is a blip in cruelty when compared to that time
@centurionzen1005
@centurionzen1005 2 жыл бұрын
"A man who has nothing can still have faith" Years down the line, that still moves me to tears.
@micaelchinatsumaki4446
@micaelchinatsumaki4446 9 жыл бұрын
2:58 Araghast the Pillager:"ELIPHAS OPEN THE PORTAL!"
@Targawrath
@Targawrath 8 жыл бұрын
SSSSSSSSSINDRIIIIIIIII
@THEGRUMPTRUCK
@THEGRUMPTRUCK 6 жыл бұрын
No.
@chagui5253
@chagui5253 5 жыл бұрын
No I think not
@RX117STARoTOAPRIME
@RX117STARoTOAPRIME 11 жыл бұрын
Daemon: Nothing can save Jonah Orion. Tarkus: The Emperor, protects. Daemon: pft* Tarkus: Matt Wards Kaldor Draigo Daemon; NO!
@theodorehodbor5080
@theodorehodbor5080 8 жыл бұрын
It was that line at the end that made Tarkus my favorite squad in the game.
@SgtR3ynolds
@SgtR3ynolds 8 жыл бұрын
+Theodore Hodbor I really hope he became captain of 3rd company.
@mercilessmoose7819
@mercilessmoose7819 6 жыл бұрын
This might sound strange, but Tarkus aint a squad, boy! He tries, though.
@Papadragon18
@Papadragon18 12 жыл бұрын
For some reason, I find it to be hilarious when the deamon screams: "Mend , accursed flesh, MEND!"
@ssintesseessentiss6263
@ssintesseessentiss6263 11 жыл бұрын
I love how whenever someone mentions the Emperor,the daemons keep yelling at them that he's just a corpse on a throne.
@matrixtrollmarine
@matrixtrollmarine 7 жыл бұрын
because he is
@Dartchone
@Dartchone 4 жыл бұрын
@@matrixtrollmarine recent books dispute that for a corpse on a throne he evaporates deamons very well with just his attention shifted to them
@Litany_of_Fury
@Litany_of_Fury 3 жыл бұрын
The dark gods are very fearful of the emperor, even in the 42 millennium.
@alisonpurgatory85
@alisonpurgatory85 2 жыл бұрын
Recent books are pandering imperial wank that don’t have the ambiguity, nuance and tragedy the setting used to. Rick Priestly back in rogue trader wrote the emperor to be mysterious- that no one knew for sure if he was just a corpse or godlike being etc and took it on faith and superstition
@benlubbers4943
@benlubbers4943 Жыл бұрын
@@matrixtrollmarine Such are the ways of Demons, to lie, corrupt, and ever gnaw at the pillars of faith hoping to drag yet one more soul down with them. Purgation is the only answer.
@Link8312
@Link8312 12 жыл бұрын
"Jonah Orion has proven himself true". *Manly tears mode ON* May the Emperor accept his soul at his side.
@Angaraman
@Angaraman 13 жыл бұрын
"I WILL BUILD MY THRONE FROM YOUR BONES!" - heck of a threat, I like it :D
@Luxai
@Luxai 6 жыл бұрын
This is actually the only betrayal that legit has me sad ;_; Jonah may be a Space Marine and a librarian, but in spite of that, he is still just a human, and too much pain, suffering, and loss will eventually make your mind unravel on itself. All the daemon did was taking advantage of a mind pushed well past it's limits in nothing but faithful service in order to possess a body belonging to someone else, pushing a writhing psyche aside that was screaming in agony. To take advantage of those who suffer for your own selfish purposes is the most vile thing one can ever do, and this perfectly embodies the true evil of Chaos.
@alisonpurgatory85
@alisonpurgatory85 2 жыл бұрын
What the daemon did was malevolent and evil, but the true evil is not chaos. Chaos embodies the unrestrained nature of our souls, a literal reflection of them. Good and bad and all in between. The imperium’s domination and abuse of humanity twists the thoughts and feelings of people into corruptions of what they should be. In an abusive paradigm, it is impossible to be truly healthy in mind and soul, whether you are an abuser or the abused. And empire is abuse. Does not the imperium take advantage of those who suffer for its own selfish ends? Suffering it creates in the first place? It was the imperium that gave Jonah those wounds, that made his life into nothing but slavery, made him from a child forced to fight for his life into a tool for war, just like every space marine. Daemons are created from the abused thoughts and feelings of mortals- when they are malevolent, it is because they are made of malevolence. They are simply going with their nature. But the fascist despots of the imperium consciously continue oppressing people despite the human soul that still have love and compassion screaming out deep inside them... just like Jonah and the daemon. If humanity was naturally imperial, the imperium would not have to threaten, colonize, enslave, brainwash lobotomies etc their way to getting obedience.
@xxlCortez
@xxlCortez 5 жыл бұрын
Saddest part is that Jonah probably in fact ended up being dragged in the warp.
@boxtank5288
@boxtank5288 3 жыл бұрын
No, the Wargear you obtain after you redeem the thing you get? It is a definitive awesome proof of the God Emperor's abilities. It also essentially has a field of 'FUCK YOU DAEMONS' projected.
@icarushelios3935
@icarushelios3935 3 жыл бұрын
It's possible that the Emperor does protect all human souls as he's like half-75% god
@MaestroSpartan
@MaestroSpartan Жыл бұрын
@@icarushelios3935 they’re definitely pushing that angle more now, the Emperor has revived Guilliman during a fight with Mortarion and also burned a portion of Nurgles garden as a threat. He’s borderline becoming a new warp entity if he won’t be reborn. So he does a lot more than just power the astronomicon
@mojewjewjew4420
@mojewjewjew4420 7 ай бұрын
Silence heretic.
@FrenchStukov
@FrenchStukov 4 ай бұрын
call the commissar what the fuck is this
@AverageSol
@AverageSol 11 жыл бұрын
I truly felt sad seeing Jonah die here, he fought so hard with the complete brunt of the hivemind and in the end. Fought the Daemon to allow his own death to his brothers
@MaddogSamurEye
@MaddogSamurEye 11 жыл бұрын
5:43, "The man who has nothing, can still have faith."-Tarkus God I love that quote from Tarkus. That quote needs to work somewhat in real life somehow. That could really cheer someone up, or move people to tears.
@alisonpurgatory85
@alisonpurgatory85 2 жыл бұрын
That quote doesn’t work in real life. Can faith feed you when you have no food? Can it shelter you from the rain when you don’t have a house? Faith can do many amazing things. But when you have nothing, faith is more false hope. Especially when it’s in the religion of dictators who will never care for or save you.
@Asraeks
@Asraeks Жыл бұрын
its a classic warhammer 40k line.
@fuckologic1202
@fuckologic1202 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine how surprised I was to see him in Retribution after getting this outcome in Chaos Rising
@kleomenis456
@kleomenis456 2 жыл бұрын
Most scary betrayal
@MrFullCrumb01
@MrFullCrumb01 9 жыл бұрын
Jonah sounds less like a Chaos Marine and more like he's been infested by the Zerg.
@sidemountsarge
@sidemountsarge 9 жыл бұрын
Fullmetal Gamer Well he did say in the pre mission vox that he was possessed.
@MrWiggles00706
@MrWiggles00706 9 жыл бұрын
Still sounds badass.
@archon95-77
@archon95-77 7 жыл бұрын
General Strawberry They kinda ruined it in the VF by not altering his normal voice. Or, maybe it was done to not reveal the possession matter too soon.
@xxlCortez
@xxlCortez 5 жыл бұрын
Infested marine.
@marvinlalandos773
@marvinlalandos773 Жыл бұрын
For me, he just sound like CABAL
@Damocles178
@Damocles178 11 жыл бұрын
I agree; Jonah was still pure despite being posessed. I mean Martellus' betrayal is Ok but it has a flaw such as him fixing your terminator armor; what traitor would do that? If they were gonna make Martellus turn on you if no one else is corrupted; you'd think that they could make things a little different in the chaos rising campaign such as maybe Martellus actually lies about not being able to fix the equipment but he really planned to give it to the black legion etc
@marley7868
@marley7868 6 жыл бұрын
or better yet he sabotaged it so by the time he's found out your terminator Armour is all permanently destroyed
@HalfTangible
@HalfTangible Жыл бұрын
Martellus betraying you makes no sense at all because he's the *only* reason you find out who the traitor is. They just wanted an option where you don't lose any of your squads if you put all the effort in.
@Rudevald
@Rudevald 6 жыл бұрын
Jonah never become traitor. He was betrayed!
@Deadsnake989
@Deadsnake989 10 жыл бұрын
No it could only be Avitus. Tarkus says it was someone he fought along side on Kronus. That leaves only Avitus or Davian Thule, they were the only ones on Kronus. Thaddeus' first crusade was Aurelia.
@BigRed40TECH
@BigRed40TECH 13 жыл бұрын
The man who has nothing, can still have faith.
@MyViolador
@MyViolador 11 жыл бұрын
And this is why Tarkus is my fav sargeant . "The man who has nothing can still have faith"
@mrpeeonewhy5827
@mrpeeonewhy5827 3 жыл бұрын
"We know Jonah is in our commlink, so let me explain my plan over it real fast."
@LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuit
@LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuit Жыл бұрын
"Your Emperor is but a corpse on a throne who can't protect anyone!" *Big E casually appearing in the Warp, burning the Gardens of Nurgle, and harming Nurgle himself*: Por Que?
@PowermadNavigator
@PowermadNavigator 12 жыл бұрын
"The Emperor protects the souls of the faithful..."
@thunderhawkx4247
@thunderhawkx4247 7 жыл бұрын
I always hate that item that spawns during a cutscene and you cant collect it
@mojewjewjew4420
@mojewjewjew4420 6 жыл бұрын
the game automaticaly collects them for you
@chickentendies5215
@chickentendies5215 3 жыл бұрын
@@mojewjewjew4420 it didnt for me
@mojewjewjew4420
@mojewjewjew4420 3 жыл бұрын
@@chickentendies5215 Then stop pirating chinese bootleg ver of the game XD
@chickentendies5215
@chickentendies5215 3 жыл бұрын
@@mojewjewjew4420 lol what. I bought it when the whole series was on sale
@mojewjewjew4420
@mojewjewjew4420 3 жыл бұрын
@@chickentendies5215 Joke - - - - You
@eliphas8200
@eliphas8200 12 жыл бұрын
2:57 you fkin line stealer
@Raven-Glock
@Raven-Glock 13 жыл бұрын
I AM THE OVERMIND I CONTROL THE GROOVE
@MarvinT0606
@MarvinT0606 7 жыл бұрын
Why the fuck doesn't the 4th Company have a *CHAPLAIN* along? This was a preventable tragedy.
@EnderX98
@EnderX98 6 жыл бұрын
MarvinT they had, it was Mikelus, that reclusiarch in dark crusade.
@MarvinT0606
@MarvinT0606 6 жыл бұрын
Dark Crusade -> Soulstorm -> DoW II -> DoW II CR He died right? So all that time they *didn't* bother to replace him, or does training to become a Chaplain take that long?
@kennycai8695
@kennycai8695 4 ай бұрын
@@MarvinT0606 I think Kyras deliberately held back with assigning Chaplains, and since he is the Chapter Master, he is in the prime position to forestall candidates for chaplaincy. We already know Kyras was corrupted by Chaos a long time ago, and his actions throughout DoW2 hinted that he plans to corrupt the entire chapter in service to the Ruinous Powers. Obviously, since loyalty and faith to the Emperor are qualities for chaplaincy, Kyras sees them as a threat to his plans. Once again, Kyras is the Chapter Master, and has the power to deny the chaplaincy replacement candidates, so as the chaplaincy gets weaker, the rest of the chapter are more susceptible to corruption as a result.
@Brandelwyn
@Brandelwyn 3 ай бұрын
They planned for him to be in the game, but he was cut
@nicholasbury5994
@nicholasbury5994 6 жыл бұрын
Poor Jonah. He was a victim, really. His body was a vessel used to infiltrate the Blood Ravens. One of the better storylines.
@K0ragg
@K0ragg 13 жыл бұрын
Poor Jonah he didnt deserve his soul to be casted in the Warp and devoured like that :(.
@alisonpurgatory85
@alisonpurgatory85 2 жыл бұрын
He didn’t deserve to be brainwashed into a slave of the imperium in the first place
@Samagachi
@Samagachi 11 жыл бұрын
Only problem with that is you'll end up losing him. With martellus, it's as if you hadn't lost anybody.
@DarkArtistKaiser
@DarkArtistKaiser 12 жыл бұрын
Id love to see that. "Commander, hes making his escape!" "Shouldn't be too hard, all he can really do is waddle..."
@outlawstar15a2
@outlawstar15a2 13 жыл бұрын
Will Jonah's soul be safe? Surely the Daemon can't take it with him since he never willingly consigned it over to Chaos.... Lord have mercy on Jonah.....
@TheVoiceOfReason93
@TheVoiceOfReason93 13 жыл бұрын
I personally think that the Daemon's statement about killing Jonah Orion is unfortunately true, being that the Emperor IS a corpse on a throne, neither dead or alive. We ain't even sure if he had the power to influence the warp anymore than just as a interstellar lighthouse. And besides, even if he could destroy suns with the snap of his fingers, i doubt even a psychic demigod could protect increasing millions of souls of the faithful after they died in the Warp
@Alex13501
@Alex13501 6 жыл бұрын
Without faith, what are we?
@joe5hm03
@joe5hm03 6 жыл бұрын
Sash13 Faithless 😎
@eoghan-uk9yi
@eoghan-uk9yi 6 жыл бұрын
Are you expecting a Daemon to tell you the truth? Well heres the real truth, everything in the warp is fuelled by the emotions and belief of all sentient life forms. People believe in the Emperor, millions. The Chaos Gods are powerful thanks to emotion, so how powerful do you think the Emperor is when he has the faith of the billions upon billions who worship him? The Emperor can and does protect souls from the Chaos Gods, just as the Eldar Gods did.
@user-xs2nt1iq8g
@user-xs2nt1iq8g 6 жыл бұрын
Amen Brother
@jyrvehkormsson7833
@jyrvehkormsson7833 4 жыл бұрын
THE EMPEROR PROTECTS HERETIC!
@Donnerbalken28
@Donnerbalken28 10 жыл бұрын
@Shaqman i think its the terminator armour "Blessed Cage". But you need to be full pure to wear it.
@DarksaberForce
@DarksaberForce 10 жыл бұрын
Second saddest after Tarkus
@xxlCortez
@xxlCortez 5 жыл бұрын
DarksaberForce what about Avitus?
@PeteOfDarkness
@PeteOfDarkness 9 ай бұрын
Jonah goes to Warp: YOU'RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME!
@BigDickCheney
@BigDickCheney 13 жыл бұрын
@ShaunCarlin The Red Canves - 18 - Ballet for Brawlers
@JMAssainatorz
@JMAssainatorz 11 жыл бұрын
of all the betrayals i think jonahs is the most intresting to get to see the resoults of demonic possession just awessome
@TheManofthecross
@TheManofthecross 8 жыл бұрын
no truer words then that.
@Dostoron
@Dostoron 12 жыл бұрын
@SkysFantasy the drop pods contain teleport signals. they beam themselves down instead of squeezing in, only the blood ravens do that though.
@TheBronxShogun
@TheBronxShogun 13 жыл бұрын
Well said Tarkus, well said.
@Thongger
@Thongger 12 жыл бұрын
and many a manly tear was shed that day
@The_Midnight_Bear
@The_Midnight_Bear 13 жыл бұрын
@KopritheStormtrooper well,in chaos rising you have corruption which you influence by doing corruption/redeeming missions or wearing corrupt or pure armor/accesories.whoever has the highest corruption at a certain point in the game becomes the traitor.no,its not repeated it was filmed several times,but the person who was the most corrupt changed so we can have the full image of the game
@TheVoiceOfReason93
@TheVoiceOfReason93 12 жыл бұрын
Who says we do? Rest in peace, Jonah Orion, the Emperor Protects.
@someguy1747
@someguy1747 2 ай бұрын
At the very least Jonah Orion died a loyal servant of the God-Emperor to his final breath, that which cannot be said of Isador Akios, Sindri Myr's pawn.
@LemonsSilky
@LemonsSilky 12 жыл бұрын
This is the only betrayl ending that I felt sadness for.
@travisfisher5719
@travisfisher5719 10 жыл бұрын
Did you have to play this game several times from the beginning to show these videos? By the way nice job.
@BigDickCheney
@BigDickCheney 13 жыл бұрын
@britboyal I alert them because the Traitor has that extra dialog if you do.
@Kaida760
@Kaida760 Ай бұрын
Expect the Black Legion to be ready for you. So it is an even fight.
@reycvik
@reycvik 2 жыл бұрын
idk second time on DOW when librarian is a traitor :)
@nobby3265
@nobby3265 2 жыл бұрын
Yh but this isn't cannon so🤷🏾‍♂️
@CleartheStone99
@CleartheStone99 12 жыл бұрын
this is the only worthwhile and meaningful tragedy in the entire dawn of war franchise.
@tahuking9445
@tahuking9445 13 жыл бұрын
i like the music in this betrayal
@RyubeyRyu
@RyubeyRyu 12 жыл бұрын
Not just for this mission but for all of them how do they all exactly fit into that one drop pod? (specially when you take Thule the Dreadnought with you).
@PaladinRageOldsql
@PaladinRageOldsql 11 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Emperor can truly saves loyal Marines soul from the Warp in his current state.
@alisonpurgatory85
@alisonpurgatory85 2 жыл бұрын
He never could. He just eats them to fuel his narcissistic empire.
@RX117STARoTOAPRIME
@RX117STARoTOAPRIME 13 жыл бұрын
@503leafy A question. Right now the emperor sits on the throne right? Also, it is said that his spiritual body is fighting inside the warp to fight against the horror in the warp so that Humanity can have a safer warp travel. Is it? If so, then would that mean Jonah can be rescued in the warp?
@FreemanKoC
@FreemanKoC 12 жыл бұрын
@drzoidburgrocks it's set off when you do not kill the patrols you engage (at least 1 chaos marine escapes) and/or do not destroy the satellite bases quickly enough (after they spot you; I suggest use Cyrus, stealth and tons of explosives - demo charges and remote dets, and they're dead before knowing what hit 'em) but it has no real effect on the gameplay: just some dialogues change and demons will constantly come after you when the alarm is sounded
@firelord699
@firelord699 11 жыл бұрын
There are many Space Marines who slowly fall even though it is not their fault, yet they Martyr themselves to redeem themselves in the Emperor's eyes and stop further damage, saving themselves from things like the Black Rage, or the Space Wolves' gene seed corruption. Although it was Kyras who made the possession possible, Jonah still went along with it until he could take it no longer. He did not even report it to the Blood Ravens in public.
@archon95-77
@archon95-77 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should add captions on the word *betrayal*. ;)
@goen5601
@goen5601 11 жыл бұрын
Yes
@emirhaneksioglu4503
@emirhaneksioglu4503 Жыл бұрын
Considering how the lore is unravelling, that "just a corpse on a throne" description of the emps didn't age too well. This little cretin of a demon lol
@TheAkator
@TheAkator 11 жыл бұрын
his one of us now he will join chaos
@AxenfonKlatismrek
@AxenfonKlatismrek 5 жыл бұрын
Question: does it really matters who betrayed you for the sake of ending?
@DarkVyce
@DarkVyce 13 жыл бұрын
Holy crap. Cyrus is all sadistic and stuff, and Jonas is all demon voice go.
@TomZanovich
@TomZanovich 12 жыл бұрын
Davian Thule and Jonah Orion, the 2 party members who were too awesome to have a name ending in "us"
@TheKingTemplar
@TheKingTemplar 12 жыл бұрын
don't know if anyone here reads white dwarf, but the did a timeline on the imperium in one issue and part of it they revealed that the mechanicum have discovered part of the golden throne has failed to function, and is not repairable. so this may signal either the rise or fall of the emperor.....
@ShaunCarlin
@ShaunCarlin 13 жыл бұрын
Whats the music you used for this video it sound cool
@xxlCortez
@xxlCortez 11 жыл бұрын
Yeah, smart ol' Gabriel. Hairgel used the means of chaos to complete his quest and Angelos sending him into the Eye for a century. Yeah, pretty sure that he won't become corrupted.
@WitcherCrow
@WitcherCrow 13 жыл бұрын
@CaptainPengu Only three gods of the Elder Phaethon survived the fall. Khaine who was later then shattered to several pieces when Slaanesh and Khorne fought over him. The Laughing god who fled to the webway. Isha who disappeared during the event, but was not claimed by the prince of excess. This tale explains her disappearance and also how the mortal races manage to combat the many diseases and plagues Nurgle unleashes on the galaxy.
@Samagachi
@Samagachi 11 жыл бұрын
How do the blood ravens not realize that jonah's possessed when he first speaks at the start of this mission?
@UltraNaba
@UltraNaba 12 жыл бұрын
Tarkus is a Good marine. It's rare enough that it could be considered a chapter in its own right.
@tylerwalsh5630
@tylerwalsh5630 11 жыл бұрын
I can't help but feel that since Jonah never actually fell this should have been the full purity traitor.
@Deadsnake989
@Deadsnake989 10 жыл бұрын
Just because he doesn't say anything doesn't mean he has nothing to say.
@Demetrius900000
@Demetrius900000 8 ай бұрын
Can you reupload with before the mission dialogue? And maybe in 4K even?
@RX117STARoTOAPRIME
@RX117STARoTOAPRIME 13 жыл бұрын
@outlawstar15a2 I forgot, when will there be the next great crusade for the imperium? Like I kinda thought that when the new emperor rise, or the emperor finally dies, humanity will do a next crusade. I'm so sorry but can someone tell me what happens when emperor falls and when a new emperor rises?
@BigDickCheney
@BigDickCheney 10 жыл бұрын
No luckily. I had a saved game from the level before the betrayal and would just corrupt whoever I needed.
@LuiBei1994
@LuiBei1994 11 жыл бұрын
can u choose the music that plays while you play the game?
@jojopkiller
@jojopkiller 11 жыл бұрын
oh I remember on a forum some1 said avitus was the canon traitor. thats why the traitor voice sounds like him.
@tulsatrash
@tulsatrash 13 жыл бұрын
I don't know which makes me sadder what happened to Jonah or what happened to Tarkus.
@bomber1012
@bomber1012 12 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, a librarians life is difficult, since the tain of chaos grows more relentless.
@BigDickCheney
@BigDickCheney 11 жыл бұрын
Added it to vid description.
@The_Midnight_Bear
@The_Midnight_Bear 13 жыл бұрын
@BigDickCheney could you send me this soundtrack and the human ig epilogues(flag-25-battle)
@HalfTangible
@HalfTangible 11 жыл бұрын
It's a crusade of absolution, not a vacation :P He can't allow the chaos-corrupted to continue serving in his ranks, can he?
@WitcherCrow
@WitcherCrow 13 жыл бұрын
@Rocketfist15 hehe you forgot about Isha the Eldar Goddess of life and fertility. She is the only Eldar deity to survive the wrath of Slaanesh due to Nurgle intervention. He saw the beautiful goddess and instantly fell in love with her then saved her from the newborn Slaanesh, after that he dragged her to his realm as his bride. She remains in Nurgle's realm to this day in a rusty cage near his brewing pot. He constantly force feeds her the labor of his love.
@The136th
@The136th 11 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that you no longer put the name of the tracks in description.
@nrevelations777
@nrevelations777 13 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to do it without raising the alarm?
@The_Midnight_Bear
@The_Midnight_Bear 13 жыл бұрын
attention:jonah has been elminated as the traitor.in retribution game trailer he say:''the warp screams all around us'' and is shown attacking chaos marines with psychich energy.and with martellus and cyrus also in retributiion,this leaves tarkus thaddeus and avitus as possible traitors.
@LenferOblige
@LenferOblige 13 жыл бұрын
What's the song for Jonah's demise? Or is that the one you mentioned?
@DarkLocustSlayer
@DarkLocustSlayer 13 жыл бұрын
@beastclaw33 Jonah is not the traitor because it is actually Martellus who is the traitor if your squad stays pure.
@travisfisher5719
@travisfisher5719 10 жыл бұрын
That's a shame. The profile I'm playing now has Thaddeus gone corrupt even though my captain and other squads are purely corrupted. Once my squads hit full corruption Captain Thule went missing out of the squad choice list. I hope Martellus becomes available to fill in the gap for either Thaddeus or Captain Thule.
@crulllordofthebloodlegiono4980
@crulllordofthebloodlegiono4980 9 ай бұрын
if jonah soul could be saved can his body be fixed with his soul back in his body the same way the demons did
@dark7element
@dark7element 13 жыл бұрын
@K0ragg Many in the Grim Darkness of the future do not deserve the fates they get. That's kinda what makes it so grim and dark.
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