Why is this 1000W $63 Amp BANNED from Amazon? [4K]

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Williston Audio Labs

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This 1000W subwoofer amp branded Datasat N1 is rated to deliver:
410W at 4 ohms
600W at 2 ohms
1000W at 1 ohm
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0:00 Intro
0:30 Made By America?
0:55 Unboxing the Amp
2:00 Amp Adjustments
2:25 Inputs and Outputs
3:26 Amp Dyno Tests
6:47 Subwoofer Tests
8:18 What's Inside?
9:52 Banned?
10:47 Pro's and Con's
11:29 Final Thoughts
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@darealestwon
@darealestwon Жыл бұрын
Datasat doesn’t just make equipment, that’s the parent company of DTS, one of the biggest innovators in cinema sound. They make the audio codec that a lot of your movies use for sound
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Yes and I don't believe this product is an "official" DATASAT product. I'm waiting to hear back from them
@slycordinator
@slycordinator Жыл бұрын
Datasat isn't the parent company of DTS. Datasat is DTS' old cinema division. In 2008, DTS divested themselves of their cinema division, forming the separate company DTS Digital Cinema. In 2009, it was purchased and renamed Datasat. DTS' parent is Xperi (a tech holding company).
@lyfandeth
@lyfandeth Жыл бұрын
You don't MAKE a codec, you WRITE one. A codec is a software program.
@slycordinator
@slycordinator Жыл бұрын
@@lyfandeth Are you saying that someone who writes a piece of software doesn't make it?
@darealestwon
@darealestwon Жыл бұрын
@@lyfandeth we get all of that, I was making a larger point about the size, scope, and importance of DTS, now owned by xperi
@BlenderRookie
@BlenderRookie Жыл бұрын
What a silly move for them to copyright infring datasat. They could have developed their own brand and word of mouth at that price and performance would have made them fairly popular, especially among the financially strapped.
@the_dark_defender
@the_dark_defender Жыл бұрын
One must remember that companies that steal intellectual property and/or falsely market their products under another company’s brand name are looking to make as much money as quickly as possible, not the longevity of their business. They price their products very cheap to make a profit by selling a lot of units quickly before they are shut down. Then they start over again using a different name. Since they have stolen the intellectual property of another company, they do not have the expense of research and design. It is very common for Chinese companies who have been commissioned to build a product for a brand to make more of the product than the original brand ordered and then sell the exact same product at a lower cost undercutting the original brand.
@mysock351C
@mysock351C Жыл бұрын
Given that its China, the whole thing is a ripoff from top to bottom. Its likely some company linked to the CCP wholesale stole the designs from a legitimate budget company that was manufacturing there, and decided to roll some knock-offs with the blatant logo thievery to put the cherry on top. Easy to make stuff for cheap when all you have to do is just bring a thumb drive to someone else's business. No R&D costs or anything like that. Edit: Basically a TL;DR of what he said ☝Still, its one reason I would like Dereck to show discretion in reviewing these types of amps and ensure they are at least a real company first. Giving some bootleg company good publicity just reinforces their profits and keeps the scam going.
@gregsuarez5205
@gregsuarez5205 Жыл бұрын
China is where they are today because they steal. Almost all electronic components are manufactured in China . This is all supported by their government. If you design a product in some other country then send it to China for manufacturing, guaranteed, your design has been compromised/stolen. Countries should send their manufacturing to other places . Yes it may be more expensive but weighing against the alternatives of what this communist has done and what it now has the capability to do military wise , we should stop now. It might already be too late .
@TreesOnTheBeach
@TreesOnTheBeach Жыл бұрын
This Chinese junk is probably going to blow after a week of use. And good luck with warranty service after that.
@AleksandarGrozdanoski
@AleksandarGrozdanoski Жыл бұрын
@@TreesOnTheBeach warranty?! lol
@jordanciaramitaro6351
@jordanciaramitaro6351 Жыл бұрын
It’s the same irs2092 iraudamp circuit used in many name brand amplifiers out. Great little amp, the ps fets and output fets are cheap and available. The irs2092 is unavailable right now for the average joe, but should hit the market again soon. Great amp that you could keep going for a long time with low repair costs when needed.
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
👌😬👍
@bojow8102
@bojow8102 Жыл бұрын
Whenever Big D says "we'll talk about it later", you know it's going to be either very good or super bad 😆 Thank you D 👍👍
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Gotta keep ‘um interested 😊
@briank.2650
@briank.2650 Жыл бұрын
Something you probably don't want to hear your Dr. say though.
@alphaomega8373
@alphaomega8373 Жыл бұрын
There been some fair luke warm ones a long the way :D
@shonuff4377
@shonuff4377 Жыл бұрын
It could only be good or bad though 🤷 just saying
@alphaomega8373
@alphaomega8373 Жыл бұрын
@@shonuff4377 May favorite color is grey ⚖
@turbokatzenburg5732
@turbokatzenburg5732 Жыл бұрын
Datasat is the new owner of the DTS digital film sound patents. The AP25 was one of the last film cinema sound processors produced. Datasat still provides some support for legacy DTS film equipment, including the DTS-6, DTS-6D, DTS-6AD, and layer processors and film timecode readers. They also cover the DTS decoding on home audio equipment.
@hvfd5956
@hvfd5956 Жыл бұрын
Don't know how long you have been doing this. During the late 1970's up to about 1990, a friend of mine ran a car stereo shop (still does). During that time, he built several crank it up cars. We had a design we were going to put in an abandoned Rambler station wagon, but the shopping center had it towed off before we could do it. The design was based on the speaker that a company called LTV built in the 1940's to test the microphone used to record an early nuclear explosion. One of the cars he built was for a customer with a 1970's Chevy Monte-Carlo with the long doors. The owner decided to go all in and cut the guts out of the doors and put 2 15's in each door. 4-18's went where the back seat used to be. Since there was a little space left at the top, they through in some 10 inch Gauss for the mid-bass. In the truck were 6 Harmon Kardon CA-260 amps, with all but one bridged mono. A series of 5 inch across the top of the doors and some JBL studio tweets under the dash, rounded out the drivers. This was fed by a high end Nakamichi cassette deck with computer controlled azimuth and a high end ADS for equalization. The day of the contest came and we all drove to Dallas for the event. We get there and the same guy who beat our car the previous year shows up with a 1960 Cadillac Hearse. 7-1500 watt amps and a - no kidding 26 inch Woofer for the low bass. 2-150 amp alternators. Even with that, it still took 14 or so Marine batteries, just to turn the stereo on. Yep lost again, but just barely. The winner got a mini-pickup, but more importantly for the young gentleman, he got a job! A leading amplifier company hired him as an engineer.
@aaronsmith3032
@aaronsmith3032 Жыл бұрын
I miss the early 90's car audio days..
@charlesbarr3561
@charlesbarr3561 Жыл бұрын
Another good one. I can't begin to tell you how much I've learned from this channel. So glad I subscribed.
@thomasbartolome2595
@thomasbartolome2595 Ай бұрын
I saw the 4 channel amp demo test & bought one & took a chance. And it is working great still, almost a year later.
@h2opower
@h2opower Жыл бұрын
I was shocked by this one as it did well and I thought for sure it would be like those other amps that straight up lied to us! Now only if they would have faith in themselves and come up with their own name, lol.
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
😝👍
@rahuldogra
@rahuldogra Жыл бұрын
@@wal 2 30 Amp fuses ? Pulling 100+ ?? Somebody explain 😂
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
@@rahuldogra yes it is possible. It’s the duration that will cause them to pop. They can handle 2-3x ratings for short periods
@MrGraywolves
@MrGraywolves Жыл бұрын
No kidding. They could even up the quality of some of the "cheap" items mentioned...charge $75 and it would still fly off the shelf. Shame about the naming thing though...
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
@@MrGraywolves it’s back amzn.to/3QsWA6N
@michaelzernie7092
@michaelzernie7092 Жыл бұрын
Another awesome find! Love the videos man, always an awesome job 👍
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@kalonsamulonis5782
@kalonsamulonis5782 Жыл бұрын
Datasat N4 & N1 were both 1000W. N1 is for car audio. Thanks for posting this video. :)
@alanstant9356
@alanstant9356 Жыл бұрын
Very awesome job on testing of the amp Big D. That really surprised me on those results.
@justinshockley5684
@justinshockley5684 Жыл бұрын
YES!!! The moment we've all been waiting for. Thanks Big D!!
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Tfwac
@justinhiggins2210
@justinhiggins2210 Жыл бұрын
The z44 power mosfet is arguably the best transistor ever in the car audio amp world. Due to their prevalence in many very good amps, including the early zed amps and countless others. Though there are many newer power transistors with higher performance they are a classic, timeless piece.
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
😬👍
@kskate91
@kskate91 Жыл бұрын
Nothing like the old Motorola brand mosfet they made a long time ago
@JusstyteN
@JusstyteN Жыл бұрын
I think its one of the reasons why it has poor efficiency and big difference dynamic vs clipping. Those mosfets are pretty old and inefficient. I would change mosfets for something better and probably would see 1000w up to clipping if the transformer isnt saturating ofc.
@justinhiggins2210
@justinhiggins2210 Жыл бұрын
@@JusstyteN yes, I did state that there were newer parts with higher performance. Efficiency being one of those parameters, I would probably put in some 3205s but years from now the z44 or it's crossover will continue to be used in amplifiers.
@JusstyteN
@JusstyteN Жыл бұрын
@@justinhiggins2210 yea i still have a small bag of those for repairs.
@vanniproductions2849
@vanniproductions2849 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching your amp dyno videos and absolutely love them! I was gonna suggest to dyno a nemesis audio amp! They’re are pretty popular here in West Texas, thank you
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
@thethoughtmaster
@thethoughtmaster Жыл бұрын
I recently bought a Lanzar Vector VCT2610, I have not tested it but it says inside the box it's true rating is 300 + 300 watts rms. It's for strapping so it will be ok for 2 x 300w subs and my second amp for the woofers at 250w per ch and 6" x 9" 125w per channel. Should pump when I make the enclosures. There are some bad reviews for Lanzar but I think they are pushing the amps too far and not testing their true output first, I will keep them to their lowest rating. Thanks for all your great video's.
@jimmy_jamesjams_a_lot4171
@jimmy_jamesjams_a_lot4171 Жыл бұрын
They actually sheathed the leads on those FETs, but then it looked like they used construction paper for the little capes and toothpaste for thermal paste!! THANK YOU DOR SHARING THIS! It’s very educational to see you run those bench tests.
@Fudmottin
@Fudmottin Жыл бұрын
Interesting bit of kit there. I have a Velodyne 150W sub that I've been running for about 20 years (not continuously). It's an 8" cone in a ported case with crossover. The box it came in is long gone and I have it right next to a reflecting wall. My question is, is it as nice as I think it is? Yeah, it is fraying a bit on the cover. But it shakes the whole house. It also cost a whole lot less than current Velodyne products.
@1oneguythat
@1oneguythat Жыл бұрын
my boxes got smashed up but the one sounds decent enough, since the glue is holding up. they are cheap 12" passive speakers, so i use it in the house with a 200w car stereo (low power so a broke box isnt audible) . look at the corner of the box and see if you can pull/push the panels together. if the glue isnt holding and its loose youll hear it as the speaker flexes and shakes the box, making a god awful noise. shouldnt hurt the speaker any though. is the amp built into the speaker? might be fun to make a new box for the old active speaker. or find a prebuiltbox and fit the sub and amp into, idk.
@1oneguythat
@1oneguythat Жыл бұрын
or make a box for the amp yea? xD idk that would be sick
@1oneguythat
@1oneguythat Жыл бұрын
bro i took a piece of wood and glued it over a 12" whole. then fitted a 10" sub to said panel in place of the 12" speaker, giving it a bigger enclosure..... it sounded ok, needs a lpf though.
@Fudmottin
@Fudmottin Жыл бұрын
@@1oneguythat I should proof read better. What's gone / going is the cloth on the front. The physical enclosure is fine. The amp is built into the same box as the speaker. It puts out an amazing amount of base for an 8" with no passive driver. Although my room isn't that big, it still resonates a good portion of the house because of modern home construction. When I was in an apartment, it nearly got me evicted. LOL.
@fjb5894
@fjb5894 Жыл бұрын
Love your art, your show, your work, your info, your humor….you be dizen my shizel!
@richpitty
@richpitty Жыл бұрын
That box with 4L7 subs is super sweet I love those subs from back in the day I’m sure the newer ones are pretty sweet esp a box with 4 in there really like it!!
@mikegreen2229
@mikegreen2229 Жыл бұрын
My teenager self from the 90’s would’ve been pissed I missed out on this amp for $63. 1000 watts was expensive those days! Woulda bought 3 of them just for spares!
@firewalker1372
@firewalker1372 Жыл бұрын
You and me both 😂
@MrDopey32
@MrDopey32 Жыл бұрын
The case reminded me of a early 2000s alpine. Lol. To bad it was taken down, seems like a great budget banger. Great video and breakdown as always sir! Thank you
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@williamprentice9539
@williamprentice9539 Жыл бұрын
I just looked and the 4 channel one is still available tonight. Somehow I missed this when it came out, just now watching
@Rs3abysss1
@Rs3abysss1 Жыл бұрын
Nice , just picked one up brand new for 30 bucks at an auction going to power 2 punch 3 12”s with it Decided to go ahead and buy it after watching your video on it
@Bigislandguy
@Bigislandguy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for picking up the amp I recommend. I had a great laugh at the box myself. I picked up this while browsing on Amazon looking for cheap amp with big fusing. I figured this out around 600 watts , who knew it would do more. Big D 4 da win.
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Awesome 👏
@captiveimage
@captiveimage Жыл бұрын
Would be interested to see the frequency response of these amps at various power outputs too.
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
@2down4up
@2down4up Жыл бұрын
Digging the background music while running the amp in the dyno! Reminds me of Mass Effect.
@adampaffrath4299
@adampaffrath4299 Жыл бұрын
Damn that amp was nice looking with the copper look on top and def could bump for 63$! It’s a shame it’s not around it’ll prob get sold on eBay now for 5x the price since big d did a video on it. Loved this and had those kickers slapping !🤘🏻🤘🏻🥇🥇
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
👌😬👍
@Assimilator702
@Assimilator702 Жыл бұрын
If you love the looks of it just buy the Diamond Audio version. It more than likely has slightly more respectable performance.
@bamspay
@bamspay Жыл бұрын
@@Assimilator702 That's a $600.00 dollar price difference. I doubt he likes the looks that much.
@danthemansrepreviews5644
@danthemansrepreviews5644 Жыл бұрын
Psst available now om Amazon for $76 just got 1
@Assimilator702
@Assimilator702 Жыл бұрын
@@danthemansrepreviews5644 You’re not afraid the amp will simply melt down? I've only messed with cheap amps once in my life and the result wasn’t good. I learned my lesson.
@KuntalGhosh
@KuntalGhosh Жыл бұрын
The insides look okay. I was expecting crappy caps and used mosfets extracted from ewaste but those seem like brand new mosfets. Although in china they can extract parts from ewaste and make them look like they came out of production line the other day. I bought some used chips from utsource and it was unbelievable how good the cleaned those ic and ic legs
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
😬👍
@johnhornbeak5735
@johnhornbeak5735 Жыл бұрын
@@wal Did you notice how a couple of the legs of the I see were wrapped in some kind of condom have you seen that before?
@DieselRamcharger
@DieselRamcharger Жыл бұрын
@@johnhornbeak5735 that is protective clothe braid. the two outside legs are your high voltage/high current legs. the middle leg is the "switched" one. If you think of them as relays....the braiding is to protect things from arcing to the heat sink in crazy conditions. probably cheaper than running a piece of plastic the whole length behind the mosfets. the chinese will cut ANY and EVERY possible corner to scrimp a penny. its how they sell these things for 63 bucks. 25% of which is import tax.
@especialistqap
@especialistqap Жыл бұрын
Utsource solder new leg to used transistor and sell like a new with different number engraved with laser
@KuntalGhosh
@KuntalGhosh Жыл бұрын
@@especialistqap i tested every part and they performed to datasheet specs. So i don't believe the parts have been faked like ebay stuff.
@vladimir0700
@vladimir0700 Жыл бұрын
I like how the output transistors aren’t even screwed to the heatsink
@1deadly187
@1deadly187 Жыл бұрын
About half way through what is another great video Big D, and I'm thinking this thing is amazing for a sub $100 amp. Now I will get back to the last half of the video and see what happens..
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Sorry it’s so long but I had a lot to cover here 😬
@Coronado-nz7wu
@Coronado-nz7wu 2 жыл бұрын
The work done inside the amp looks clean.
@wal
@wal 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@bobgreene2892
@bobgreene2892 Жыл бұрын
Although Amazon cannot inspect every prospective product pitched to Amazon by resellers in China, we might be curious about how long it took Amazon to come to its legal senses about Datasat-- especially priced as it was.
@djarcforceable
@djarcforceable Жыл бұрын
Surprisingly good little amp for the money. Who knows if it would last a long time or not but for $63, I'd buy one.
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
I’ve paid more for dinner at Chick Fil A for my family
@positivevibes4966
@positivevibes4966 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos would love to see you test the new ct sounds 2000.d
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
@shonuff4377
@shonuff4377 Жыл бұрын
Hey Big D just and idea. Have you ever thought about dynoing two of the exact same amps? I know I'm curious to see how far they are different in power. I know I've bought two of the same amps and birth sheets be couple hundred watts different. (Kicker and fosgate in my experience). Just an idea something different
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
I did this a while back with the Sundown SCV-3000. The results were amazingly close
@shonuff4377
@shonuff4377 Жыл бұрын
@@wal what!! I missed a Big D Dyno video? Man I been watching you since you used to film inside the house on a little desk with old school amps stacked all around it.
@isidrosevier1125
@isidrosevier1125 Жыл бұрын
Maybe do one that the company sends you to Dyno, the but one like a regular customer and see if the ones we get Dyno the same as the ones they send you to test.
@pedroveliz4131
@pedroveliz4131 Жыл бұрын
Crazy 😜! Imagine having 6 of them and 6 skar audio 600 watt rms 18’s for under $2000. God bless y’all!
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Man you just gave me an idea 💡
@pedroveliz4131
@pedroveliz4131 Жыл бұрын
@@wal that’s great bro I love your channel and if I gave you an idea you just made my day god bless y’all!
@Mr.Robert1
@Mr.Robert1 Жыл бұрын
I would prefer to have one good quality amp , as opposed to six garbage amps. to each his own.
@pedroveliz4131
@pedroveliz4131 Жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Robert1 I know exactly what you mean,I was referring to bass heads that have a certain budget and want a 6 sub configuration for a low price and take a risk that it’s not going to hold up. When I was in high school I knew someone that bought two 12 inch Sony explode subwoofers and a 1200 watt Sony amp and it was louder than a guy that spent allot more,but then we found out the other guy had inferior wiring lol 😂,I apologize for the long reply It’s just Mobil audio makes me happy 😃!
@farhankhan-dh2tu
@farhankhan-dh2tu Жыл бұрын
Thanks 🌹 we appreciate ur hard working and investigating on such cheap amps ... Bringing the truth to us
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@rlevitta
@rlevitta Жыл бұрын
Thanks for nearly breaking my eardrums for the woofer test using earbuds.
@kswis
@kswis 2 жыл бұрын
Ya the advertising reminds me of poor translation on many, many other Chinese products, not like you could fit a sub in the box lol but bro, for the price. That's not a bad little amp. I don't remember seeing the legs of the mosfets wrapped in other amps especially in that price range. Def an interesting specimen brotha, thanks for sharing
@wal
@wal 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same although I didn’t mention it in the video! That seems like a higher end feature!
@briank.2650
@briank.2650 Жыл бұрын
After seeing the first case of poor translation I tried to catch the next one before Big D pointed it out. Sort of a game. But right when he pointed out that both input & output we're labeled "input" I noticed that under them out was out but input was labeled "front". One would assume the only input could just be called "input". Google translator helped expose another fake 🤥
@PoXFreak
@PoXFreak Жыл бұрын
Looking back at this, I see 2 weaknesses: The power supply MOSFETs and the output choke coil. Replace the 4 Z44n MOSFETs with something a little stronger and your certified/uncertified numbers might get closer to the dynamic results. The output filtering choke looks a bit small for even 600 watts at 1 ohm considering the 30 amps of output current available. I think if I could get one (change the name to "DataSnatch" for all I care), that would be the first upgrades I made. Too bad @barevids couldn't get his hands on this and confirm my theories...
@mefirst4266
@mefirst4266 Жыл бұрын
AND THEY BLOWN UP IN 2 MINUTES GOING BY THE PEOPLE WHO INSTALLED THEM.
@absalonw007
@absalonw007 Жыл бұрын
Bought 2 one for daughter and one just because. Hooked up daughters at 1 ohm and after 3 minutes or so higher volume blew fuse twice so switched out with the just because one i had and it did the same so doesn't look like it like 1ohm. Sounded good while it played.
@astro54541
@astro54541 6 ай бұрын
It’s been over a year and I still have this amp running in my 4Runner on a Single 8” Hifonics Sub. Freaking slaps…and I’m not sure why 😂
@joeanderson444
@joeanderson444 Жыл бұрын
I'd keep this amp. It'll be worth $65 in about 50 years!
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Investment FTL
@2011joser
@2011joser Жыл бұрын
The manufacturer made a bet that a niche company on the opposite end of the price spectrum would not notice its trademark being used. It lost that bet but it’s a gamble that often works for other chinese manufacturers. I would have bought that amp and the 4 channel if it had been as well priced. Thanks for another very interesting video Big D.
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s crazy!
@danthemansrepreviews5644
@danthemansrepreviews5644 Жыл бұрын
They also have products under the name plinius, which is like datasat, a actual usa company. a $15k a amplifier for home audio. I'm guessing they thought these companies wouldn't see them in car audio Plinius have like 8 amps Datasat even has a dsp amp! Have every type of speaker too I talked to the company N1 and n4 are still available on usa, I'm ordering 2 on August 10
@dewey7330
@dewey7330 Жыл бұрын
Another great video!! I like this amp. Looks good,reminds me of the JL Audio amps. I wouldn’t use it at 1 ohm..LOL
@volvo09
@volvo09 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's pretty darn good looking... Like a colored JL amp. It would surely be overheating running at 1 ohm!
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Yes I meant to mention it also looks like JL XD series
@RebursPsychology
@RebursPsychology Жыл бұрын
Perfect sunday morning video
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@acts9531
@acts9531 Жыл бұрын
The good news is that this thing would probably last about a week so maybe it's not so bad that you can't buy it on Amazon. I mean, if you have to be suspicious that the caps are carrying fake labels ... One of the reasons to spend more on known name-brand products is longevity. A $60 amp sounds like a steal until you have to replace it every couple months and the costs soon add up to what you'd have paid for something built better. Thanks for posting this video, it was very thorough and very interesting.
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@acts9531
@acts9531 Жыл бұрын
@@wal You're welcome. I learned my lesson about this by buying cheap subwoofers that last 6 - 8 months. I finally woke up and decided to bite the bullet on a genuine Klipsch subwoofer that has now been in service for three years and is still working as well as the day I hooked it up. It wasn't terribly expensive and in the long run it's a *_lot_* cheaper than buying a pile of cheap gear at half the price. There are about 5 subs up in my attic waiting for the day I can either use some of the parts, repair them or chuck them in the trash. Those subs were all a loss financially, if I'd bought the Klipsch to begin with I'd be richer, happier and less frustrated.
@rjonzun5828
@rjonzun5828 Жыл бұрын
I love these budget amp reviews but I wish there was a way to review their reliability/longevity. Easier said than done I know.
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
That would be cool. I like when car reviewers do this since many they review for short periods so good buy what about a year later?
@rjonzun5828
@rjonzun5828 Жыл бұрын
@IamMike86 lolol
@primus711
@primus711 Жыл бұрын
You could without speakers just use load resistors
@marcoperez7330
@marcoperez7330 Жыл бұрын
Easy, buy one & go full tilt on it...It's affordable enough to do so!
@Chris-tu3xx
@Chris-tu3xx Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I wish I had one of these when I was in high school. I would run stereo 25w on a 12 inch cerwin vega back in the day and I thought that was cool.
@MrILLryder
@MrILLryder Жыл бұрын
Bid D! Is there by chance you could Dyno the PRV amps. I heard from a few buddies that they’re putting out a good line of amps. Appreciate all you do brother!
@kmidst_kn6329
@kmidst_kn6329 Жыл бұрын
At 53% efficiency isn't this thing going to get so hot that it fails some internal components? If so, then running at 1 ohm would not be safe.
@danthemansrepreviews5644
@danthemansrepreviews5644 Жыл бұрын
I got mine 2 days ago...honestly my punch 601 gets waaay hotter... this doesn't get all that hot...I swear like...very touchable lol. Solid piece..I'm getting a n4 too just to keep before there gone
@Ebacherville
@Ebacherville Жыл бұрын
This amp is now back on Amazon for $70 as "Notherss Audio Systems N1"
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Yeah still playing games!
@ChippyOutdoors
@ChippyOutdoors Жыл бұрын
I have found the n4 but no luck on the n1 I'd be willing to give this go. Been years being out-of car audio butnlack of thump in my truck I'm putting one together
@abdullah_fardm.9725
@abdullah_fardm.9725 Жыл бұрын
1:55 I still have 2 Diamond Audio amps, love them. Each is 2 channel.
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
👌😬👍
@abdullah_fardm.9725
@abdullah_fardm.9725 Жыл бұрын
@@wal Thank You Dereck, and I sent a message to your IG .
@TheElectronicDilettante
@TheElectronicDilettante Жыл бұрын
It’s still on Amazon but under the “Crunch “ name for same price.
@wal
@wal 2 жыл бұрын
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@ChannelZeroOne
@ChannelZeroOne Жыл бұрын
I have bought a number of things from your links with that intent in mind. The ignite, Pioneer, Skar, and the JP8 were all purchased from your vids. I got the skar subs long before you tested them. Keep posting we love you. Talk to your boy JP about making a real bass head Bluetooth speaker and discontinue the over priced JBL clone.
@amadzack666
@amadzack666 Жыл бұрын
could you measure the rail voltage on every amplifier you reviews next time? i mean you already open it to show us the guts, might as well probe the rail voltage on the diode legs too,i would love to see that thanks.
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
@@amadzack666 Thanks for the suggestion 👌
@amadzack666
@amadzack666 Жыл бұрын
@@wal thanks bigD for considering my suggestion,base on the rail voltage and data from your amp dyno,we know which section are the weaker point between power supply section and output section on every amp design.thanks again looking forward to watch more of your vids
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Available on Amazon again! (Affiliate Link): amzn.to/3bX79jC
@olbluetundra881
@olbluetundra881 Жыл бұрын
Dude a 1k amp for under a hundred bucks. Hat does rated power. That's impressive. Probably not the cleanest power but I bet for a budget banger it would sound good. Keep the vids coming.
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@j.6756
@j.6756 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to hear the cannon shots from the Telarc recording of the Cincinnati Orchestra's rendition of Tchiakowski's 1812 Overture... That's always been my bass response test.
@Arthur-ke9vz
@Arthur-ke9vz Жыл бұрын
Great video, as always
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@airdreams1
@airdreams1 7 ай бұрын
I wish I could luck onto something like this. Being on a fixed income sucks when you love having a decent sound system. Need a new amp but everything I look at is just outside my price range
@grocerygetter100
@grocerygetter100 Жыл бұрын
Love the videos, Big D! Been a bass head since the 90s. Now I'm an electrical engineer! Are you in Williston, Florida? I'd love to see your lab and see for myself, Do It Bump Doe?!
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Nawsa last name is my company name 😊
@halfmeout
@halfmeout Жыл бұрын
Those subs are surprising slapping
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Slappin and Flappin
@user-cl2ls7kz7o
@user-cl2ls7kz7o Жыл бұрын
Love the dyno runs. Keep it up! What happens when voltage is increased to 24v does it put out more and require larger amperes fuse?
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Most of these 12V amps will go into protect at 16V
@DouglasHeyen
@DouglasHeyen Жыл бұрын
Haha. Noticed you upped the fuses to 40s. Was curious how it would produce the proper wattage if it doesn't have enough amps coming in. Nice review. Just goes to show you don't always get what you pay for. In this rare case you got way more.bang for your buck. Thanks for the info
@DrHarryT
@DrHarryT Жыл бұрын
For the money It's pretty good, the key would be to buy a few of them, run them @8ohm to get the efficiency up higher and run them well under their rated output to get the distortion down. No specs on the slew rate or signal to noise ratio. I have a Sound Craftsman PM860 Professional Mosfet amp. [120V] It's zero ohm stable which means you can short the speaker wires and power it on without harming it. The certificate of performance states Channel A 286W/Channel B 287W @8ohm, Channel A 401/Channel B 402W @4ohm all at .05%THD [Probably get close to 450W per channel @2ohm] With a Slew rate of 50V per microsecond. [It's really fast] I've paired it up with 4 EV Force 10 and 2 EV Force 12 musical instrument full range loudspeakers with 10lb magnets, 105Db SPL [1W@1Meter] 150W continuous. They accurately reproduce flat thought the audio waveform spectrum. [This means no matter what frequency you drive them at, they reproduce with the same intensity of sound pressure equally.] 10" 75Hz - 7000Hz/ 12" 65Hz - 7000Hz Oh yea, when you power it on, you hear a little pop, the speaker does a little flex in and out a couple of times and then... Silence and it stays silent using a Makie mixer at zero volume input. With this baby and the EV's, you close your eyes and swear the band is in front of you with accurate reproduction.
@milescrissey1366
@milescrissey1366 Жыл бұрын
Big D! I just ordered one of these off of Amazon for $70!
@swaybelly3212
@swaybelly3212 Жыл бұрын
Same here! Under the name "Notherss".....
@chloeleedow7250
@chloeleedow7250 7 ай бұрын
The terminal side of the amp layout is quiet similar to an old Pioneer PRSD1200M I have lol
@johnebuckland
@johnebuckland Жыл бұрын
Enjoyable. I am a fan of the copper look
@Redmist370Z
@Redmist370Z Жыл бұрын
As of August 19, 2022 they are available on Amazon. I purchased one last night . You’re just going to need to dig a little bit as they don’t come up in the multichannel amp section.
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
I updated both the pinned comment as well as video description 2 days ago with this info 👌
@scottiffanimccord1509
@scottiffanimccord1509 Жыл бұрын
Loved it D thx.
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@johndavies1843
@johndavies1843 Жыл бұрын
I like the old "California Profile" Amps.. Cheaper circuits than a PPI, but same breadboard design..
@jtveg
@jtveg Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. 😉👌🏻
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Back in stock, maybe different brand. See pinned comment
@fattnnvxbhjnccnvvcyn
@fattnnvxbhjnccnvvcyn Жыл бұрын
Have you done a clamp test on a Power Acoustik Razor RZ5-2500D?
@user-ti2is4yl1k
@user-ti2is4yl1k 4 ай бұрын
Would it push two L7 12's with the blue stitching hard?
@gregoryhawkins9172
@gregoryhawkins9172 Жыл бұрын
I have no idea what you're talking about. Neither does my teddy bear.
@HardCold-Alquan
@HardCold-Alquan Жыл бұрын
It looks nice. I have a Sony 96K amp. Quality over power!
@hiscifi2986
@hiscifi2986 Жыл бұрын
Apart from being able to produce voltages and currents, does it amplify music..?
@Fr33dom89
@Fr33dom89 Жыл бұрын
So should I get this will it blow on me in a week, Considering not over working it ?
@brianmack6285
@brianmack6285 Жыл бұрын
I expected a budget bust but instead it's the new Dual/Jensen/GenericName. Hope it makes it's way back under a new name. Go Amiraca!
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
🤣👍
@TheWarped45
@TheWarped45 Жыл бұрын
As a tech this amp is class D those IR hexfets.
@joeldawizzkiddandrews4147
@joeldawizzkiddandrews4147 Жыл бұрын
When are you going to do a old school diamond audio d6 or d6 ..
@ToddClemm101
@ToddClemm101 Жыл бұрын
Just curious if the 30A fuses got swapped before the dyno run. I saw there were 40s in there for the reveal.
@DonauweIIe
@DonauweIIe Жыл бұрын
at 6:42 specs: 405W @ 4Ω, 88% efficient. for $63, thats a very good deal for watt per dollar. how is the audioquality from that amp ?
@germanjesus
@germanjesus Жыл бұрын
Wow life is full of coincidences I just seen on Kijiji yesterday somebody is selling these brand of amps for 600 bucks each. Weird , Great videos man
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
😲
@CL-yp1bs
@CL-yp1bs Жыл бұрын
actually has a diode for reverse polarity protection (hooking up pos and neg backwards) I am impressed for the price..
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
👌😬👍
@joshcramer2917
@joshcramer2917 Жыл бұрын
I have a few real diamond audio amps. A d5600.1, d5600.2 and d5600.4 and a d61000.1 I'd love to get put up to your dyno curious how I could get this done
@andrepersad122
@andrepersad122 Жыл бұрын
You change the the fuse to 40amps to get that power??
@darrylduck6356
@darrylduck6356 Жыл бұрын
What frequency di you test at? Being a sub amp I hope it was at least as low as 40Hz.
@Dev_Everything
@Dev_Everything Жыл бұрын
How are you pulling 126.66 amps dc with 2x30 maxi fuses?
@Jake-tw8qr
@Jake-tw8qr Жыл бұрын
They just rebranded to Notherss. The N4, 2-4 channel amp is still for sale on amazon.
@BigEvil2005
@BigEvil2005 Жыл бұрын
Have you tested any of the Cadence stuff as of late?
@edwinkarani5593
@edwinkarani5593 Жыл бұрын
Pretty good amp for starters.
@patrickbutcherine142
@patrickbutcherine142 Жыл бұрын
I wanna get one for my guitar setup.
@circuitsmith
@circuitsmith Жыл бұрын
At that price I'd be tempted to gut it and use the pretty case for a project.
@DIYAudioGuy
@DIYAudioGuy Жыл бұрын
Solid power for the price, plus it looks good.
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
👌😬👍
@leonsamuel8558
@leonsamuel8558 Жыл бұрын
I am interested to know why u switched out the fuses from dual 30a to dual 40a? Did you use the 40a to run the Dyno?
@wal
@wal Жыл бұрын
Watch until the end
@calholli
@calholli Жыл бұрын
I still have my L7 Solo Baric 12" that I bought in the 90's. lol
@jeffreybradley3736
@jeffreybradley3736 Жыл бұрын
Picked two of these up for $70 each about a month ago. So far so good. Swapped out the Punch 550.2 I was running for one of these and honestly can't tell much difference in SQ or total output.
@stinky817
@stinky817 Жыл бұрын
On Amazon?
@jeffreybradley3736
@jeffreybradley3736 Жыл бұрын
@@stinky817 yes
@jeffreybradley3736
@jeffreybradley3736 Жыл бұрын
​@@stinky817 Sorry for the late reply.... Yes on Amazon.
@jeffreybradley3736
@jeffreybradley3736 Жыл бұрын
Still running this thing and have no complaints for the $
@stinky817
@stinky817 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreybradley3736 I did a pretty heavy search and couldn't find any. Ugh
@anthonybrown6143
@anthonybrown6143 Жыл бұрын
I wish Kicker would make this same box but built for their new SOLO L7X subs.
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