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Stahel, D. Kiev 1941: Hitler's Battle for Supremacy in the East, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2012
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@TheArmchairHistorian
@TheArmchairHistorian 3 жыл бұрын
To start comparing quotes and simplify insurance-buying, check out Policygenius: policygenius.com/armchairhistorian. Thanks to Policygenius for sponsoring this video! MISTAKES: -4:01 Timoshenko is mentioned, but the portrait shown is Budyonny by mistake.
@dawg204
@dawg204 3 жыл бұрын
Shush
@JosiahJS976
@JosiahJS976 3 жыл бұрын
@卐 HitlerLoveϟϟ Anime 卐 what
@Huskyboi_
@Huskyboi_ 3 жыл бұрын
Have an amazing day!
@willyvonfalknerheim4128
@willyvonfalknerheim4128 3 жыл бұрын
yeah
@CouldBeNero
@CouldBeNero 3 жыл бұрын
How has this comment 1 hour ago and the vid just got posted-
@indianajones4321
@indianajones4321 3 жыл бұрын
Eastern Front: How many encirclement campaigns do you want? German and Soviet Generals: Yes
@CatsEyethePsycho
@CatsEyethePsycho 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love them circles. They never end.
@stevemc01
@stevemc01 3 жыл бұрын
@@CatsEyethePsycho A circle of encirclements. Circleception.
@ace1776
@ace1776 3 жыл бұрын
General they have encircled! General: well encircle them back!
@CoolNinja925
@CoolNinja925 3 жыл бұрын
Stalin: 👁👄👁 Hitler: 👁👅👁
@CatsEyethePsycho
@CatsEyethePsycho 3 жыл бұрын
@@CoolNinja925 I think you mean: 👁◾️👁
@Ashadow700
@Ashadow700 3 жыл бұрын
"Going around them" - the 2nd most effective strategy in all of world history, only beaten out by the number 1 tactic: "Don't lose"
@arthas640
@arthas640 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the US's "annihilate from orbit" strategy. Japanese want to make you fight for every inch? Just reduce the entire battlefield to dust, then send in men to secure the dust. The only time it's really failed was in Vietnam when they blew up empty jungles while leaving actual military bases and population centers alone for the most part.
@MK_ULTRA420
@MK_ULTRA420 2 жыл бұрын
@@arthas640 It wasn't really a war so much as it was France invoking NATO rules to try to keep their colonial holdings in Vietnam using American forces. Ho Chi Minh knew this which is why he used attrition tactics to win.
@tomazlah8238
@tomazlah8238 2 жыл бұрын
@@arthas640 lol exactelly. vietnam didnot attack usa, that was bogus war with little domestic support.they could oblitared vietnam if wanted,but than SU and China would get involved.
@arthas640
@arthas640 2 жыл бұрын
@@BurntPlaydoh the fighting in Iwo Jima was intense for a couple reasons: 1. the majority of the fighting on land the US had done in the Pacific Theater had been in jungles or on fairly flat sandy islands, Iwo Jima was very rocky and had some pretty steep cliffs. This allowed the Japanese to build strong, reinforced bunkers, hard points, and other defenses that could withstand a bombardment and bombing. There were also plenty of natural and man made caves to hide in and store weaponry in. 2. Most of the islands the US had fought on were almost always recently conquered territory but Iwo Jima was part of Japanese territory. This meant that not only were there more soldiers but there were also civilians and unlike some random useless island where the Japanese might be willing to retreat, on Iwo Jima they would fight to the last man, woman, and child. Since the Japanese expected an attack there they were dug in far more then anywhere else the Americans had gone before and they didnt have the benefit of locals to offer intel or support, and there werent really any pre-war records to fall back on either. 3. there were civlians there and while the US didnt exactly shy away from bombing civilians they tried to avoid it so they wouldnt quit go as heavy as they probably should have since they'd assume a shorter bombardment might be enough to soften things up while still leaving some survivors for the infantry to pick up. 4. the biggest reason for the bloodbath though was that the US _NEEDED_ that island. Iwo Jima's biggest use was as an air base to attack Japan with since their longest range fighters could still make it to Japan from Iwo Jima along with most of their bombers. Heavy bombardment would mean the air fields would be ruined and that would require tons of patching which would cost weeks or even months of work and render the whole attack largely useless. They could either go light like they did and let the infantry do the leg work. or they could level the island and take another island closer to Japan (where they'd face all the same issues mentioned above, perhaps even worse since that would give Japan more time to dig in and possibly have more soldiers and civilians to deal with). There was a major argument over the best course of action but they decided to try and take Iwo Jima intact and took heavy losses as a result. No matter what the US knew they'd take heavy losses, whether at Iwo Jima or any other major island close to Japan, but they judged it to be worth getting bombers close enough to strike the home islands without needing to take them the long way from Europe to India to China. The losses werent as heavy as you might think though, they had around 6000 deaths and that included pilots and the hits allied ships took, and for a frame of reference the allies took 7,000 deaths just to take Anzio in Italy and that was just 1 battle on their way to Rome. Iwo Jima was needed to drop the bombs on Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and for the bombings of Tokyo so 6000 men was a small price to pay to break the back of the Empire of Japan.
@Wolf-wc1js
@Wolf-wc1js 2 жыл бұрын
@@arthas640 Plus compared to other campaigns and battles fought, the Japanese were commanded by General Kuribayashi who like Admiral Yamamoto was opposed to war with the US because they both had lived in the US for some time prior to the war and were aware of the industrial might the US wielded. As a result, he was instrumental in ensuring that while victory was impossible for Japan, they would hold out as long as possible. As such the troops under his command made a battle for the island that the Marines predicted to take within a week last for over a month.
@DeciviousDan
@DeciviousDan 2 жыл бұрын
In a world of reboots and remakes, I can genuinely say that I did not expect this one to be next.
@BruhWhyDidTheyChangeThis
@BruhWhyDidTheyChangeThis 2 жыл бұрын
Except unlike the Russians, Germans know how to do logistics.
@OverSchall
@OverSchall 2 жыл бұрын
@@BruhWhyDidTheyChangeThis At least they did in the past. Nowadays it's a different story...
@johnpalmer7263
@johnpalmer7263 2 жыл бұрын
@@BruhWhyDidTheyChangeThis Lol German Logistics were notoriously terrible during WW2, it's amazing how far they got considering bad it was.
@BruhWhyDidTheyChangeThis
@BruhWhyDidTheyChangeThis 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnpalmer7263 it was more of poor unhinged leadership. Germans are known for their organization and their war machine was really powerful. Edit: idk why I’m defending Nazi Germany, bad look, it’s good they got shwacked but it was leadership issues, kinda like Russia now lul
@AlexanderDoHcKou
@AlexanderDoHcKou 2 жыл бұрын
@@BruhWhyDidTheyChangeThis Lol,you are delusional)
@MaFo82
@MaFo82 2 жыл бұрын
Kirponos was one of the best generals the Red Army had, what a tragedy that he died so early into the conflict. He had actually been a thorn in the side of the Germans since the outset of Operation Barbarossa, primarily due to him having disobeyed Stalin by making defensive preparations before the conflict started. This led to substantial losses on the german side and was the main reason why they had to divert troops from Army Group Centre to break his defensive line.
@chiensyang
@chiensyang Жыл бұрын
If Kirpinos were alive, would he be more famous than Zhukov?
@karizmaikili4058
@karizmaikili4058 Жыл бұрын
@@chiensyang probably, yes
@yehor_ivanov
@yehor_ivanov 11 ай бұрын
@@chiensyang it's "Kyrponos", the guy was Ukrainian) great cossack surname, I'd say)
@kohtalainenalias
@kohtalainenalias 16 күн бұрын
it's easier to win when you have unlimited resources
@ihavetowait90daystochangem67
@ihavetowait90daystochangem67 3 жыл бұрын
You know demonitisation has taken a toll on History KZfaqrs when they have to get sponsored by an Insurance Company
@dillonhunt1720
@dillonhunt1720 3 жыл бұрын
You know monetization has taken a toll on History KZfaqrs when they have to get sponsored by an Insurance Company
@God-yr9rs
@God-yr9rs 3 жыл бұрын
You know monetization has taken a toll on History KZfaqrs when they have to get sponsored by an Insurance Company
@aliencreaturei5245
@aliencreaturei5245 3 жыл бұрын
You know monetization has taken a toll on History KZfaqrs when they have to get sponsored by an Insurance Company
@tylerlouie8609
@tylerlouie8609 3 жыл бұрын
Its sad that a content creator as high quality and dedicated as AH can't make a profit to continue sustaining themselves because youtube doesn't understand what history is
@themiddlecase
@themiddlecase 3 жыл бұрын
You know History has taken a toll on Insurance Companies when they have to get sponsored by monetized KZfaqrs. Or something.
@ConradTheBeetEater
@ConradTheBeetEater 3 жыл бұрын
"Keep men, lose land: land can be taken again. Keep land lose men: land and men are both lost."
@ihavetowait90daystochangem67
@ihavetowait90daystochangem67 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the only quote by a commie that I agree with
@sarcharasticperson442
@sarcharasticperson442 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao Zedong
@itstime6974
@itstime6974 3 жыл бұрын
Was this from Mao Zedong or is my brain just messing its own memory up?
@samuelslezacek6491
@samuelslezacek6491 3 жыл бұрын
@@itstime6974 yeah thats mr zedong
@finnishboo4192
@finnishboo4192 3 жыл бұрын
@@ihavetowait90daystochangem67 same
@marsmaniac1
@marsmaniac1 2 жыл бұрын
“History Doesn't Repeat Itself, but It Often Rhymes” - Mark Twain.
@longyu9336
@longyu9336 Жыл бұрын
Every masterpiece has its' cheap copy
@kristelvidhi5038
@kristelvidhi5038 Жыл бұрын
And that's why there aren't any do overs.
@ilovemama6997
@ilovemama6997 Жыл бұрын
aaaaaand? how did it go?)
@thecrow7549
@thecrow7549 Жыл бұрын
@@ilovemama6997 badly
@fedirfurtsev1188
@fedirfurtsev1188 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Nazis again tried to capture Kyiv
@beratedbandit5196
@beratedbandit5196 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this now hits different.
@usul573
@usul573 2 жыл бұрын
Kiev just always seems to be the victim.
@beratedbandit5196
@beratedbandit5196 2 жыл бұрын
@@usul573 poor ukraine
@anasqader3851
@anasqader3851 2 жыл бұрын
@@usul573 The Poland of capitals
@FirasTeinz
@FirasTeinz 2 жыл бұрын
ikr its crazy
@landlockedcroat1554
@landlockedcroat1554 2 жыл бұрын
incoming wave of these fking comments
@ricefarmer5280
@ricefarmer5280 3 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early the Soviet air force was still on the ground
@buddermonger2000
@buddermonger2000 3 жыл бұрын
Damn you. No more formations for you. Everything is played in square.
@cranberrysprite5001
@cranberrysprite5001 3 жыл бұрын
Ouch
@doubledownpleasegosubtotte4274
@doubledownpleasegosubtotte4274 3 жыл бұрын
5 square
@parallellia1509
@parallellia1509 3 жыл бұрын
Please. Please stop writing "I was this early" comments it is so retarded.
@deflector1235
@deflector1235 2 жыл бұрын
Hold up...
@Justin-cw7zf
@Justin-cw7zf 3 жыл бұрын
I like how Stalin’s face in this video compares to hitlers face in the operation bag ration video. Nice detail
@mariano98ify
@mariano98ify 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is the same "universe" lol then the comeback is sweeter for the Soviets.
@shibavekreal
@shibavekreal 3 жыл бұрын
Both were genocidal dictators so ig it makes sense
@Neymarinet
@Neymarinet 3 жыл бұрын
Stalin rations food, hitler rations bags
@zoch9797
@zoch9797 3 жыл бұрын
@@shibavekreal Stalin more so. Truly a despicable human, but still not held to such a standard by the population at large. Never forget, he helped start that war.
@drotterton793
@drotterton793 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I noticed that too and was gonna comment it lol.
@lordgollum3700
@lordgollum3700 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of the current live action remake
@hanszecrusader379
@hanszecrusader379 Жыл бұрын
Ong not to mention they cancelled it
@LaVaZ000
@LaVaZ000 Жыл бұрын
@PSYKING-Ultimate Bro Germany is dumb, they should learn from Mongolia, Russia is easy to conquer if you go from the down up, then it's shorter.
@youtubewatcher4842
@youtubewatcher4842 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, I heard there’s a sequel coming out soon!
@sexygeek8996
@sexygeek8996 2 жыл бұрын
It's on the news right now.
@Prophylaxe
@Prophylaxe 2 жыл бұрын
This time it’s not Germany at least
@Fingrek
@Fingrek 2 жыл бұрын
They cancelled it, no budget left
@mrlime9526
@mrlime9526 Жыл бұрын
@@Fingrek looks like all the budget went to those Russians officials jackoozie’s.
@IronDragon-2143
@IronDragon-2143 3 жыл бұрын
A Field Marshal who actually fights and dies with what men he has left. No greater honor to be found.
@Aryescent
@Aryescent 3 жыл бұрын
nah if i was a field marshal i would leave.
@filb
@filb 3 жыл бұрын
Unlike WW1 when many top ranks stayed in the comforts of their own home (or simply far away from the trenches) while millions of men were being slaughtered...and if anybody mutinied or did not follow orders, they ended up executed even though their mission was suicidal to begin with.
@Mmjk_12
@Mmjk_12 3 жыл бұрын
@@filb this is actually a common myth of WWI, generals and field marshals usually were within a few miles of the front line, they innovated new tactics and methods of assualt to avoid trench charges as they were so ineffective and suicidal, the new technology at the time also forced them to change their whole understanding of war which was based on troop formation advances and cavalry charges and if you actually look it up very few are executed for desertion or cowardice.
@filb
@filb 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mmjk_12 I am not too sure about that, the numbers may not have been in the millions, but men like Cadorna were known to execute their own men, I think he had the highest count of around 750.
@juliuszkocinski7478
@juliuszkocinski7478 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is: With such a high officers every their decision probably cost or save much more lives, than their personal fighting. There's a reason why strategical command is taken away from a front, and generals fight in combat only when they don't really have a choice. It's bravery for sure, but also kind of neccesity
@HoLSurena
@HoLSurena 3 жыл бұрын
Timochenko: But comrade Stalin, if we dont retreat, they are going to encircle us Stalin: No retreat and fight to the last man Timochenko: We are surrounded Stalin: 😮😮😮😮
@antitroller101
@antitroller101 3 жыл бұрын
Stalin: uhh...his fault (points to Marshall Budyonny) Budyonny: I did what now?
@andrewjones9547
@andrewjones9547 3 жыл бұрын
did i stutter
@doubledownpleasegosubtotte4274
@doubledownpleasegosubtotte4274 3 жыл бұрын
Get the grenade
@sisophon1982
@sisophon1982 3 жыл бұрын
The four gasping are Kirponos, Budyonny, Timosheko and Kruschev
@Simoky99
@Simoky99 3 жыл бұрын
Stalin: ok now you can retreat
@justvid366
@justvid366 2 жыл бұрын
To give some context. The Kleist's Panzer Group 1 wasn't there when the battle of Kieve had begun. It was farther to the south. So when Guderian's 2nd Pz Group began pushing towards Lokhvitsa, South-Western Front's command, as well as Stalin, were sure they could trap him further down and exhaust. He wouldn't have made it further than Lokhvitsa. It was quite hard for Wermacht to complete any large encirclement with only 1 "claw" of the attack having a panzer group. They had only infantry to the south at that moment. A little earlier they managed to cross the Dnepr river and establish a foothold near the town of Kremenchuk. The Red Army tried to push them back, but they held it quite well. The ace in the sleeve of Army Group South was Kleist's Panzer Group. It was further to the south and they decided to move it to Kiev secretly, under the cover of the night. To cross the Dnepr, they gathered resources from all the AG South, and all the available engineers, and built what is now considered one of the largest pontoon bridges ever made. The Kleist's Pz Group drove a couple of hundreds of kilometers within one night (they used Pervitine - Methamphetamine to stay awake) and crossed the Dnepr undercover over that bridge concentrating on the Kremenchuk foothold. Kleist's attack from the south was a complete surprise for all the Red Army's command. By that moment Red Army didn't have an advanced radio technique for reconnaissance purposes as well as very limited air recon capabilities. Basically, they were never able to uncover Wermacht's Pz Groups movements at the beginning of 1941. So Kleist broke through the Russian defensive lines and attacked towards the Guderian's 2nd Pz Group. It was over earlier than the Russian command understood what had happened. It's also worth mentioning that the South-Western Front commander Kirponos wasn't quite experienced, he commanded only a division in 1939. He was still hesitating and when he finally got an order to retreat, he insisted that the order would be submitted in writing. It's worth mentioning that he died trying to break through the pocket with the other soldiers and officers. It's also worth mentioning that most of the Russian POWs were killed by Wermacht and SS throughout the winter of 1941-42. To sum it up. Wermacht was on top of their war game back in those days. They were the most advanced and well-disciplined army in the World.
@sssrs4172
@sssrs4172 8 ай бұрын
some say Kleist was driven to death in prison, the Reds hated him
@MaxwellAerialPhotography
@MaxwellAerialPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
History never repeats, but it does rhyme.
@antitroller101
@antitroller101 3 жыл бұрын
German soldier: Sir, good news we have successfully encircled the four Soviet armies in Kiev German Commander: Ok, I knew it would not be as simple as...Wait, we did WHAT?!?
@doubledownpleasegosubtotte4274
@doubledownpleasegosubtotte4274 3 жыл бұрын
Surprised pickachu face
@bbcmotd
@bbcmotd 3 жыл бұрын
But bad news sir: they have 20 more armies.
@mapeditorjon5306
@mapeditorjon5306 3 жыл бұрын
Another bad news: the Red Army just took the Reichstag
@apotato5567
@apotato5567 3 жыл бұрын
@@mapeditorjon5306 yes
@sovietunion6530
@sovietunion6530 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r6eAp7iGmrCwmIVs.html
@tjal8709
@tjal8709 3 жыл бұрын
At 4:01 you mention that the Soviet forces in Kiev are under general command of general Timoshenko, but the portrait given shows Budyonny instead :^), just thought it'd let you know
@tair_papier250
@tair_papier250 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy his mustache
@tjal8709
@tjal8709 3 жыл бұрын
@@tair_papier250 Ngl tho Budyonny's mustache fire
@KP-kg2ky
@KP-kg2ky 3 жыл бұрын
Budyonny, Stalin's mate in a way, the man who is said to have had brilliant officers killed because they believed tank warfare was more effective than Budyonny's outdated cavarly charges. He was Stalin's dear, that's why he wasn't killed but instead given a remote command.
@The_Liszty.9664
@The_Liszty.9664 3 жыл бұрын
The portrait Look liked bunyonny but timoshenko is bald and had no moustache. Budyonny is on kazahkstan.
@_FireHeart
@_FireHeart 2 жыл бұрын
@@tjal8709 , it’s #KyivNotKiev tho (-:
@ultras_fino_alla_morte
@ultras_fino_alla_morte 2 жыл бұрын
Putin: fine, i' ll do it myself
@milotura6828
@milotura6828 2 жыл бұрын
Reality can be what ever i want
@vladimirivaniovich5024
@vladimirivaniovich5024 2 жыл бұрын
@Christianupd they haven't captured it yet lmao russia is gonna lose
@milotura6828
@milotura6828 2 жыл бұрын
@@vladimirivaniovich5024 Nah, its sad but i think it is wishful thinking
@vladherasymenko543
@vladherasymenko543 2 жыл бұрын
@@milotura6828 one week passed and they are nowhere near encircling the city. Considering the Germans occupied the quasi-totality of Poland in 21 days and now it is the 17th day of the war in Ukraine, I think it is safe to say that Putin’s blitzkrieg has failed and now the Ukrainians have all chances of winning this war of attrition (if the support of the West continues, that is)
@jacobcatanzaro9558
@jacobcatanzaro9558 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but Putin invaded the whole country with a mere 200,000 men thinking he’d win the peoples support and wanting to keep the country intact because he needs the vital resources. He underestimated the tenacity of the Ukrainian people something hitler understand which is why hitler leveled entire cities and invaded with millions. Putin will fail to hold Ukrainian if he can even manage to take it at all
@fds7476
@fds7476 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq has a twisted sense of humour.
@jackparker8602
@jackparker8602 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly lol
@wetwillyis_1881
@wetwillyis_1881 3 жыл бұрын
"If you're ever thrust into a major conflict far from home..." Me: Looks at the news. Also Me: Griffin, are you trying to tell me something?
@doubledownpleasegosubtotte4274
@doubledownpleasegosubtotte4274 3 жыл бұрын
Damn very bloody
@alexandroparra5144
@alexandroparra5144 3 жыл бұрын
Going to fight in Taiwan
@zaiz6018
@zaiz6018 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexandroparra5144 I’m probably being send to Israel. Good luck in Asia
@maarten1115
@maarten1115 3 жыл бұрын
@@zaiz6018 You're an IDF soldier?
@zaiz6018
@zaiz6018 3 жыл бұрын
@@maarten1115 Nah but Europe got close ties with Israel I do although know someone that lives there. God bless em.
@thesupremeleader9559
@thesupremeleader9559 3 жыл бұрын
"By employing the brilliant tactic of, going around them" --Armchair Historian
@g_superson1c255
@g_superson1c255 2 жыл бұрын
I love his sarcasm lmao
@sike5227
@sike5227 2 жыл бұрын
France:cries in maginot line
@carpboy0077
@carpboy0077 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing on this God damn earth that has a worse sense of humour then me is the KZfaq algorithm.
@OakAsmr
@OakAsmr 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq recommendations wrong for this one
@VirtualnomadVirtualnomad
@VirtualnomadVirtualnomad 3 жыл бұрын
Respect General Kirponos, one of few high ranked military commanders to fight and die along side their men in modern history
@arthas640
@arthas640 3 жыл бұрын
Especially the Soviets, who lost more high ranking officers to Stalin then the enemy.
@jangrosek4334
@jangrosek4334 2 жыл бұрын
in 1941 the Soviets lost many generals in a similar manner.
@jangrosek4334
@jangrosek4334 2 жыл бұрын
@@Publius_Staso Don't embarrass yourself. Better to spend a minute looking for information.
@Publius_Staso
@Publius_Staso 2 жыл бұрын
@@jangrosek4334 well done) you’re really reading what is written. And have you read the memoirs of general-colonel Glebov?
@selfdo
@selfdo 2 жыл бұрын
The Soviet strategy towards personnel was the same as their tanks - they were EXPENDABLE. No other nation could take such huge losses and still field an effective army as rapidly as they did. Of course, blame also Nazi arrogance, which re: Slavic peoples they didn't invent, either. Their atrocities did what not even the most inspiring officers or soldiers or airmen, nor any propagandist or political officer, could ever do...MOTIVATE the Soviet peoples to FIGHT for STALIN. Had the Germans held their bigotry in abeyance, they could have raised legions of "volunteers" to fight alongside them or at least "helpers" to do the scut work, and more than likely the "Cold War" of the latter part of the 20th century is between the USA and Nazi Germany.
@Robbstark2024
@Robbstark2024 3 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how the mass encirclements of the germans resemble the mass encirclements of Hannibal in the second Punic war. And in both cases their early victories didn’t stop them from getting utterly annihilated at the end of the war. I’m not saying history repeats itself, but...
@juliuszkocinski7478
@juliuszkocinski7478 3 жыл бұрын
Also in both cases their opponent was much larger and you can defeat them once, then couple more times, but when it comes to war of attrition... It's only matter of time before you loose. And you can't afford loosing. Same for germans, same for Hannibal
@looinrims
@looinrims 3 жыл бұрын
Because: no resources to finish the job
@filthycasual8074
@filthycasual8074 3 жыл бұрын
@@juliuszkocinski7478 when your already stretched thin and continue to make poor strategic decisions
@gutsjoestar7450
@gutsjoestar7450 3 жыл бұрын
Hannibal was a great war lords, unfortunately for him, His brothers and other commander weren't match for the romans, Hannibal's brother was defeated and the Iberian was taken, he couldn't siege Rome as it was too late, he wanted to wait until renforcement came, if hannibal rushed to rome right after winning one of Rome's greatest lose in history It was estimated that 20 percent of Roman fighting men between the ages of 18 and 50 died at Cannae. Only 14,000 Roman soldiers escaped, and 10,000 more were captured; the rest were killed. The Carthaginians lost about 6,000 men.
@juliuszkocinski7478
@juliuszkocinski7478 3 жыл бұрын
​@@filthycasual8074 I doubt it was "poor strategic decisions". Germans knew they can't win war of attricion an tried to win in a quick campaign before Soviets could even turn it into total war. I can't think of a better strategy for them, especially considering previous succeses in blitzkrieg (other than not attacking at all)
@colobolo7532
@colobolo7532 2 жыл бұрын
Ah sh*t, here we go again
@jace7541
@jace7541 2 жыл бұрын
There's another encirclement right now!!
@vinhmai5566
@vinhmai5566 3 жыл бұрын
Stalin’s face in the thumbnail is priceless
@tribunal2977
@tribunal2977 3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d92Jm9OKtczYnJs.html they did hilter the same way
@am1017
@am1017 3 жыл бұрын
Both of Hitler and Stalin face is priceless in bagration and Barbarossa respectively.
@tribunal2977
@tribunal2977 3 жыл бұрын
@@am1017 agree
@doubledownpleasegosubtotte4274
@doubledownpleasegosubtotte4274 3 жыл бұрын
Hiding out
@s4kiko_
@s4kiko_ 3 жыл бұрын
Suprise Pikachu face
@sooryan_1018
@sooryan_1018 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta admit, the NKVD secret bombing tactic was pretty clever. Its like your frag killing someone after they shoot you
@arthas640
@arthas640 2 жыл бұрын
The Soviets and Chinese are the only 2 people who'd pull that sort of thing off on such a scale. Most people dont have the stomach to plant bombs in their own citizens homes and also shift the blame onto said civilians. Sort of a "if i cant have them, nobody can!" sort of thing with the homes/people, just like when Peter the Great burned his peasants homes and farms to prevent Charles the Great from using them in his invasion, or when the Russians did the same to Napoleon, or China destroying their own dams and killing 900,000 of their own people to inconvenience the Japanese.
@EndOfSmallSanctuary97
@EndOfSmallSanctuary97 2 жыл бұрын
They just copied what the Russians had already done in 1812 when Napoleon took Moscow. Pretty much the exact same situation.
@HippasosofMetapontum
@HippasosofMetapontum 2 жыл бұрын
@@arthas640 Commie Tactics, Nazis were similar, raiding against their important jewish communities
@conradmcdougall3629
@conradmcdougall3629 2 жыл бұрын
The NKVD were the absolute worst in regards to killing innocent civilians.
@sooryan_1018
@sooryan_1018 2 жыл бұрын
@@conradmcdougall3629 SS and CIA - **chuckles** I'm in danger
@thtkk
@thtkk 2 жыл бұрын
This aged well
@Kapt420
@Kapt420 8 ай бұрын
*Just to clarify Kiev was the official name for the city in ww2 Ukraine only made the name “Kyiv” official in 1995*
@thefirstkingdogo1126
@thefirstkingdogo1126 8 ай бұрын
So they want that name? Its there city so lets call it Kjiv
@FodaseNaoLigo
@FodaseNaoLigo 2 ай бұрын
​@thefirstkingdonogo1126
@thecossackcrusaderofholybr8448
@thecossackcrusaderofholybr8448 3 жыл бұрын
I clicked this video faster then the 2nd panzer division
@miguelgarcia6493
@miguelgarcia6493 3 жыл бұрын
Not to be technical or anything but I don’t think the 2nd panzer division clicked on this video
@chickenwarriorr
@chickenwarriorr 3 жыл бұрын
@@miguelgarcia6493 r/woooosh
@miguelgarcia6493
@miguelgarcia6493 3 жыл бұрын
@@chickenwarriorr r/wooooosh
@connorkenway3654
@connorkenway3654 3 жыл бұрын
@@miguelgarcia6493 r/woooooooooosh
@Nathanel-md6uc
@Nathanel-md6uc 3 жыл бұрын
@@connorkenway3654 wooooooooooosh
@nematolvajkergetok5104
@nematolvajkergetok5104 3 жыл бұрын
11:55 "You see Ivan, when you fire Tokarev without touching trigger, Tokarev gets worn slower and you save rubles for Motherland!"
@ShinerCCC
@ShinerCCC 2 жыл бұрын
I've been reading this book I got from a friend who moved away, called Babi Yar. It was written by Anatoli Kuznetsov, who grew up in Kiev when this encirclement happened. He lived near the gorge in the center of town where citizens were executed once the Nazis occupied the city, but didn't see any fighting in his neighbourhood when the Germans came, just looting once the newspapers announced the takeover. And bombs falling before that. He describes the Red Army retreating on horse-drawn carts, looking exhausted, and the desperate pleas to be hidden and dressed as civilians. It mentions the mining of the main buildings on the main street of Kreschatik by the NKVD. edit: I have read farther and his house was in the "forbidden zone" where the German military said fighting would be taking place once the Red Army counterattacked. Bombs landed right beside his house.
@pizzatimeee3317
@pizzatimeee3317 Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna read it, do you have other recommendations?
@raptorreddelta3986
@raptorreddelta3986 3 ай бұрын
The Russians bombed the holocaust monument in Babi Yar
@lb4581
@lb4581 2 жыл бұрын
Why am I getting this recommended? How inexplicable
@DiracComb.7585
@DiracComb.7585 3 жыл бұрын
9:25 now I have to start wondering if we’ll get Armchair Historian comic books
@joseaca1010
@joseaca1010 3 жыл бұрын
An illustration book would be goat, ngl
@lancegideondiokno1774
@lancegideondiokno1774 3 жыл бұрын
i'd buy that
@ScorpoYT
@ScorpoYT 3 жыл бұрын
Kiev? more like Stalin's stalingrad
@Hrosters
@Hrosters 3 жыл бұрын
I watch ur vids, comrade
@mrsobamad3387
@mrsobamad3387 3 жыл бұрын
Love your work man
@user-vf3vv8xg9w
@user-vf3vv8xg9w 2 жыл бұрын
"Stalin's stalingrad" lol, such a weird phrase xD
@DannyBoy777777
@DannyBoy777777 2 жыл бұрын
@ Scorpo Not really. It wasn't a crucial defeat. The claims of prisoners have been widely exaggerated. The Germans never actually counted; Glantz pits the figure as low as 300,000, far less than the actual Stalingrad.
@burgitech8643
@burgitech8643 2 жыл бұрын
@@DannyBoy777777 They were counted. The soviet soldiers captured were 665,000 plus 163,600 killed or injured. At Stalingrad around 90,000 German soldiers were captured, 200,000 killed. Stalingrad was only so decisive, as the Germans could not afford these casualties. The soviets easily could...
@oliverdoodoo9991
@oliverdoodoo9991 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I wonder why this is being recommended to me now.
@KDZX4
@KDZX4 2 жыл бұрын
This was recommended to me today...
@CivilWarWeekByWeek
@CivilWarWeekByWeek 3 жыл бұрын
Stalin: Wait I don't see the encirclement Rundstedt: Don't worry you will
@Mitaka.Kotsuka
@Mitaka.Kotsuka 3 жыл бұрын
Do you see that armies the soviets have in kiev? Yes Mein Fürer. I dont wanna.
@streamlinedengine
@streamlinedengine 3 жыл бұрын
How the USSR sustained these mind-boggling loses in 1941/42, then wound-up hoisting the Soviet Flag atop the Reichstag, will never cease to amaze me.
@arthas640
@arthas640 3 жыл бұрын
The Soviet Union had a _massive_ population while Germany was rather small by comparison. The Soviets had a population roughly double that of Germany's and Germany was also busy in Western Europe, the Balkans, and North Africa. The Germans also sent their best men to begin with while Russia had endless conscript, as the conscripts die one who survive get better and better as they gain experience while Germany couldnt cycle men out so they just lost their best and had to start send their worst. Basically Germany's quality dropped as the Soviets increased, partially because the Germans just started running out of military aged men and refused to use women until it was too late. Russia also had the benefit of drawing in supplies and equipment from the Allies so they didnt need to focus on manufacturing precision equipment or on R&D which left more men available for combat as you could make due with old people or children in factories and farms, and factories could focus on easier to manufacture goods while they imported precision equipment like radios.
@vantom6194
@vantom6194 2 жыл бұрын
Now you gotta look at how many soviet casualties for them to able to do that
@hayk2792
@hayk2792 2 жыл бұрын
@@vantom6194 Almost as much as Germans
@scevol29
@scevol29 2 жыл бұрын
@@hayk2792 USSR casualties:27.5 mln, 10.8 mln soldiers among them. Nazi casualties on Eastern Front:6.5 mln,5.5 mln soldiers among them. No they different.
@user-qe6qp9rn9f
@user-qe6qp9rn9f 2 жыл бұрын
@@arthas640 Only you do not take into account that the Germans occupied the territories of the USSR with a population of 50-60 million people and held them for several years. And the whole of occupied Europe worked for Germany. So there was no such preponderance in numbers, at least not exactly twice.
@crow1an
@crow1an 2 жыл бұрын
the algorithm has a sick sense of humour
@number6338
@number6338 2 жыл бұрын
Hitting a little bit different right now
@galladesamurai2380
@galladesamurai2380 3 жыл бұрын
Kiev, the biggest encirclement in history and yet not many really know much about, until now Edit: 10 months later, why did this get so many likes? Lmao Edit 2: well this aged well lmao
@EmperorHirohito-kv2uc
@EmperorHirohito-kv2uc 3 жыл бұрын
*Kyiv
@Tomas_2555
@Tomas_2555 3 жыл бұрын
@@EmperorHirohito-kv2uc *Kyiv
@vicenteasaro1823
@vicenteasaro1823 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tomas_2555 both Kiev and Kyiv are correct.
@shawnv123
@shawnv123 3 жыл бұрын
@@vicenteasaro1823 kum
@MrSomeonebody
@MrSomeonebody 3 жыл бұрын
@@vicenteasaro1823 Kiev is a russian version of transliteration of the city name. Which was formed during long years of Ukrainian territory occupation by ussr after WW2. They suppressed Ukrainian identity including language so if you are not one of the supporters of this ideology please prefer the second version.
@lodzianin1973
@lodzianin1973 2 жыл бұрын
As a history enthusiast from Eastern Europe I must admit that I'm impressed by your pronounciation of Russian names. It's almost perfect (certainly better than that of other KZfaqrs):-) What's more, I appreciate your animations for their accuracy. Everything, from the details of the uniforms through the armament to the physiognomy of Russian and German military commanders is accurate and realistic. Very professional video - respect!
@UeArtemis2
@UeArtemis2 Жыл бұрын
But Semen Tymoshenko was a Ukrainian. So not Semyon.
@Gaylord69420
@Gaylord69420 Жыл бұрын
K
@commandercorl1544
@commandercorl1544 Жыл бұрын
His Russian pronunciation was spot on, as Russian was spoken in the Ukraine at that time. Locations and people's real names were not said, but that's only to be expected in an apolitical historical context.
@Testimony_Of_JTF
@Testimony_Of_JTF Жыл бұрын
They're Soviet commanders
@Testimony_Of_JTF
@Testimony_Of_JTF Жыл бұрын
@@commandercorl1544 I'm pretty sure Ukrainian was the official language of the Ukrainian SSR, altough many did speak Russian there (Russian was the language of the state)
@ajmod73
@ajmod73 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this now hits different...
@dblum
@dblum Жыл бұрын
The eastern front of WW2 had many records. Most casualties, must casualties at a battle, largest tank battle, most brutal siege and many more. This front was brutal, and 4/5 of the Germans who died were on this front.
@skymaster4743
@skymaster4743 3 жыл бұрын
Hannibal: I have caught the Romans in the greatest encirclement battle in history. Rundstedt: *laughs in kesselschlacht.
@doubledownpleasegosubtotte4274
@doubledownpleasegosubtotte4274 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of crying
@user-uj5uu4tm1u
@user-uj5uu4tm1u 3 жыл бұрын
Also Rundstedt: Hold my Panzer
@Oscuros
@Oscuros 2 жыл бұрын
*v Rundstedt. The only one you don't do that with is Paulus.
@greenkoopa
@greenkoopa 3 жыл бұрын
Kirponos was a true Chad general. Rest in power my man ✊
@Publius_Staso
@Publius_Staso 2 жыл бұрын
He was an imbecile, who was not competent enough to manage even a single Corp
@jackyback2578
@jackyback2578 2 жыл бұрын
@@Publius_Staso literally an armchair general, as if you could do better lmao
@Publius_Staso
@Publius_Staso 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackyback2578 have you read about Crimean operation? 30000 men died just because Kirponos ignored the data of intelligence, the info about geolocation of his forces, weather info, and data about the skills of his army. In one day the entire Corp was destroyed because his commands were changing every 10 minutes, and he, himself, was running around the battlefield in delusion, stopping soldiers and asking them, why are they running, and when they answered that Germans are attacking, he yelled that this is not happening, and soldier is a traitor. And, yes, this data is written in Russian, so, you didn’t. And I don’t need to be a general to know what does imbecile look like
@yajrobot
@yajrobot 2 жыл бұрын
He was just an ordinary Ukrainian, nothing special lmao
@edmundjones8500
@edmundjones8500 2 жыл бұрын
In power? Cringe
@jandrov-c6856
@jandrov-c6856 2 жыл бұрын
Kiev rn: “ah sh** here we go again”
@MatyAndThePak43
@MatyAndThePak43 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq recommended did a little bit of trolling
@zol4996
@zol4996 2 жыл бұрын
We do a little more trolling
@jno9512
@jno9512 3 жыл бұрын
“When you surround an enemy, leave an outlet free. Do not press a desperate foe too hard.” - Sun Tzu
@stuka80
@stuka80 3 жыл бұрын
the Germans in 1942 failed to close their encirclements multiple times and hundreds of thousands of Soviets escaped to fight them another day.
@jno9512
@jno9512 3 жыл бұрын
@@stuka80 I suppose you could look at the battle of Kiev as more of a representation of the greater Nazi approach to warfare. It’s a war of annihilation of groups like the Slavs, so getting killed or captured by the Nazis really meant the same thing for the Soviets.
@vantom6194
@vantom6194 2 жыл бұрын
@@jno9512 Yes because they did not do it in Dunkirk the german panzers halt and let the 300,000 allied troops escape to Britain..but later on this will be a grave mistake those soldiers will return to make the germans fight in 3 fronts west, east and south
@vantom6194
@vantom6194 2 жыл бұрын
@@kms_scharnhorst Nope at this stage of war USSR and Germany is still allies, France has surrendered and US has no interest in the war the best thing to do with those 300,000 prisoner if they were captured in DUNKIRK is to use it as a LEVERAGE for NEGOTIATIONS of peace with Britain without MEN and EQUIPMENT and the backlash of the love ones of those 300,000 prisoner in BRITAIN Winston CHURCHILL will force to submit to Germany.
@vantom6194
@vantom6194 2 жыл бұрын
@@kms_scharnhorst Just like i said in that STAGE of war Germany is not in conflict with US or the USSR infact the USSR is supplying the GERMANS with war materials even STALIN at that time is so amazed how germany defeated france and UK in just 6 weeks vs his winter war with finland his late reaction during operation barbarrosa unmasked how stalin feared the Germans in early days of the war.. if Germany decide to finish the war with BRITAIN at that time UK will fall
@oldgringo2001
@oldgringo2001 3 жыл бұрын
4:01 I think the General's portrait that pops up here is Bodyonny, not Timoshenko. He wasn't a great general, but he had the greatest mustache of the war!
@otfriedschellhas1200
@otfriedschellhas1200 2 жыл бұрын
They said his moustache was bigger than his brain
@BrodieB762
@BrodieB762 2 жыл бұрын
I see the Ukrainian civilians haven’t changed much from throwing Molotov cocktails at tanks.. lol 😂
@HenriqueRJchiki
@HenriqueRJchiki 2 жыл бұрын
On a sidenote it's pretty sad seeing these two people who once fought together against extermination fighting each other instead 🥲
@krowaswieta7944
@krowaswieta7944 2 жыл бұрын
@@HenriqueRJchiki They dont fight each other. Russia fights Ukraine and Ukraine defends itself.
@a.oshankar8741
@a.oshankar8741 2 жыл бұрын
lmao but that's a very very bad idea in 2022
@raketny_hvost
@raketny_hvost Жыл бұрын
@@krowaswieta7944 lmao "defending" is absolute reason of being justified, okay
@krowaswieta7944
@krowaswieta7944 Жыл бұрын
@@raketny_hvost wahh? Why would country that defends itself try to 'justify' its actions? What are you up to? Let me guess: youre gonna try to tell me they are nazis? Well, ive heard from your propaganda that in my country we teach kids how to masturbate, that we demolish red army monuments, beat up people for speaking Russian etc. I wonder if you really believe in that bs xd... I mean, i guess thats a form of defense mechanism: you dont want to believe you live in a terrorist country so much that you start to believe in the most silly piece of propaganda. And tbh i dont get you guys... You dont mind spending billions of public money on senseless war while earning 400 or 500 dollars a month... This is just grotesque.
@izumithegreat4597
@izumithegreat4597 2 жыл бұрын
Here before the 2022 Battle of Kyiv
@bread_man6206
@bread_man6206 3 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I am wrong but at 4:01 that doesn't look like Timoshenko, but Budyonny. Or maybe he grew a mustache that looks just like it, idk Also great episode, I like how you are focusing more on the eastern front of WW2 which is either under represented, or misrepresented
@Eni504
@Eni504 3 жыл бұрын
it’s crazy how all of this actually happened
@finley8113
@finley8113 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh they're encircling it again.
@bluejesus105
@bluejesus105 2 жыл бұрын
Kiev: "I shall not be encircled again! "
@Brekisigurdsson2000
@Brekisigurdsson2000 2 жыл бұрын
Kyiv, not Kiev
@Real_SkyRipper
@Real_SkyRipper 2 жыл бұрын
@@Brekisigurdsson2000 Kiev it's better so it stays Kiev. English names for cities is always better otherwise good luck using the name of each city based on it's language.
@0xCAFEF00D
@0xCAFEF00D 2 жыл бұрын
@@Real_SkyRipper that's the Russian name.
@Real_SkyRipper
@Real_SkyRipper 2 жыл бұрын
@@0xCAFEF00D don't think so, Russia doesn't even use the same alphabet so why would they name it that? in Russia ends up like this Київ, so Kiev is pretty much english
@WorldHistory42
@WorldHistory42 2 жыл бұрын
@@0xCAFEF00D and?
@leratt355
@leratt355 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what happens when you troop stack in a single tile
@larllarfleton
@larllarfleton 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these! The amount of detailed videos about the Eastern front (other than about the battle of Berlin or Stalingrad) are pretty few and far between! This was excellent!
@jelly4frog498
@jelly4frog498 2 жыл бұрын
time for a part 2
@rabbaniazzahra1784
@rabbaniazzahra1784 2 жыл бұрын
i want part 2 video
@sexygeek8996
@sexygeek8996 2 жыл бұрын
Part 2 is happening right now.
@wagdbikerider
@wagdbikerider 2 жыл бұрын
Lol at the ad... Life insurance does not pay out if you die in war
@darren7550
@darren7550 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are better than movies, wow
@doubledownpleasegosubtotte4274
@doubledownpleasegosubtotte4274 3 жыл бұрын
We don’t got time for boring actors
@JanJan-rc4zp
@JanJan-rc4zp 2 жыл бұрын
I would be happy to see this battle in movie from German perspective
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 3 жыл бұрын
In one encirclement, Marshal Budyonny and some of his troops managed to escape on horse.
@briankarcher8338
@briankarcher8338 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating timing on this video. History repeats but this time, no encirclement thankfully.
@elefkae7483
@elefkae7483 2 жыл бұрын
Oh they tried- that was the original war plan Russia came up with afterall.
@benvergus1573
@benvergus1573 2 жыл бұрын
Quite ironic how Putin talks about denazifying Ukrain, yet uses nazi tactics to win this war
@jordengg3629
@jordengg3629 3 жыл бұрын
No other country in history can take 5 devastating encirclement and still fight and win, incredible
@joehonson4981
@joehonson4981 3 жыл бұрын
If you throw enough men against an army, they will eventually fall.
@kingmuddy5898
@kingmuddy5898 3 жыл бұрын
I think the US could have
@kevinjohn5412
@kevinjohn5412 3 жыл бұрын
The romans would like a word with you....
@lazr9672
@lazr9672 3 жыл бұрын
It did come at a price tho
@CatsEyethePsycho
@CatsEyethePsycho 3 жыл бұрын
Nice pfp. I love Ducktators.
@evaristoderby6021
@evaristoderby6021 3 жыл бұрын
You don't know how much I look forward to this man's videos! Keep up the great content!
@VoodooDangerbird
@VoodooDangerbird 2 жыл бұрын
History repeats
@frenchhonhon
@frenchhonhon 2 жыл бұрын
Putin: It's rewind time
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 3 жыл бұрын
An insane battle. Thanks for covering this!
@stuka80
@stuka80 3 жыл бұрын
yea, pretty much the entire eastern front was insane, the western allies couldnt comprehend
@LaVaZ000
@LaVaZ000 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it was! Amazing how Ukrain- oh wait you're talking about the video.
@ThisHandleWasTheOnly1Available
@ThisHandleWasTheOnly1Available 2 жыл бұрын
My great grandparents didn't get out of Donetsk when they had the chance before the Kiev encirlcement and were executed along with their toddler son about a month later. My grandmother - not even 13 at the time - was the only one to escape.
@dzungtran314
@dzungtran314 2 жыл бұрын
Respect and salute from Vietnam
@relentless6505
@relentless6505 2 жыл бұрын
I’m seeing The Sequel of this live rn
@Bill.Cipher.101
@Bill.Cipher.101 2 жыл бұрын
This aged like the CSA.
@bbcmotd
@bbcmotd 3 жыл бұрын
13:20 People tend to only talk about the Nazi's atrocities towards Jews but they were by far not the only ones, Slavic people were seen as lower beings just as well and were killed in even bigger numbers.
@mralbert6983
@mralbert6983 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. What the Nazis did to the Slavs was horrific and nightmarish but people rarely ever talk about it.
@th3kgbdog385
@th3kgbdog385 2 жыл бұрын
@@mralbert6983 also people tend to ignore the fact that the atrocities committed by the Soviets in Berlin were largely due to the cruelty of the nazis in the early stages of the war, they ignore that violence only calls more violence
@jaif7327
@jaif7327 2 жыл бұрын
ppl here also forgetting those same slavs also initiated an ethnic cleansing against the germans in the east post wwii
@nara6540
@nara6540 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaif7327 Yeah I wonder why people would be unwilling to harbour citizens of a country who has slaughtered millions of their ethnicity. I truly wonder.
@vhlamingostreamsaudioconte403
@vhlamingostreamsaudioconte403 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaif7327 Germans: kill 27 million russian people, 6 million jews, 2 million jypsies, millions of poles, and etc. etc. etc... All those guys enter the Germany and have their revenge: "REEEE GERMAN CIVILIANS ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE REEE"
@fighterjet001dco7
@fighterjet001dco7 3 жыл бұрын
This is so amazing man ngl
@tomtomzhang313
@tomtomzhang313 2 жыл бұрын
Putin : write that down! Write that down!!!!
@rubenvardumyan9661
@rubenvardumyan9661 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how similar were both Stalin and Hithler. Command "NO RETREAT" was the the biggest mistake for both of them
@bahahaba
@bahahaba Жыл бұрын
Fortunately the soviets could afford to make mistakes like those the same could not be said for the nazis
@quikzome6973
@quikzome6973 Жыл бұрын
Hitler was a bad guy but he knew way more than stalin about military
@The_Liszty.9664
@The_Liszty.9664 3 жыл бұрын
A.H: * says Semyon Timoshenko * Also him: * Shows photo of Budyonny * Me: Am i blind or wot
@Knirin
@Knirin 2 жыл бұрын
Actual life insurance agent here. I am incredibly skeptical of your advertiser's ability to save 50% on a policy and keep the same face value.
@91plm
@91plm 2 жыл бұрын
Putin: *WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN!!!*
@sekytwo
@sekytwo 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the greatest channels in youtube history. Outstanding !
@BandanRRChannel
@BandanRRChannel 3 жыл бұрын
"I'm not stuck in here with you, YOU'RE stuck in here with...okay, I'm stuck in here with you, HEEEELP!"
@Ukpmmafighter
@Ukpmmafighter 3 жыл бұрын
I had a test of history from the german invasion of The USSR and your videos helped me a lot
@mynamesmatthew1551
@mynamesmatthew1551 2 жыл бұрын
This month there will probably be a 2nd battle of Kiev 😂
@TheEGames
@TheEGames 2 жыл бұрын
there already is
@tomtomzhang313
@tomtomzhang313 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheEGames nope they are encircling it.
@G.A.C_Random
@G.A.C_Random 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomtomzhang313 what is your definition of encirclement because i had a different one
@ivobednar5608
@ivobednar5608 2 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how the history is repeating itself.
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I had heard a lot about this disaster in the making. Here's another video suggestion on an event that took place around this time "The Russian Dunkirk." It happened in Estonia in 1941. And it was basically described as a ride through Dante's Hell. Can we please see a video on this event.
@mr.legoboy2964
@mr.legoboy2964 3 жыл бұрын
Always good when you guys upload
@Agent_Charlie
@Agent_Charlie 2 жыл бұрын
Fast forward and Kiev is again about to be encircled. Crazy how history repeats itself.
@errata
@errata 2 жыл бұрын
what are you talking about, UA army is pushing them out and back on all sides, you are a month behind duide.
@Agent_Charlie
@Agent_Charlie 2 жыл бұрын
@@errata Thanks for the update.
@ernestov1777
@ernestov1777 2 жыл бұрын
@@errata lol, delusional lies.
@asiankingsman3038
@asiankingsman3038 2 жыл бұрын
Once Mariupol falls, you can count on Kiev getting encircled when the entire East is already taken.
@d.olivergutierrez8690
@d.olivergutierrez8690 2 жыл бұрын
@@asiankingsman3038 the only way the Russians are going to make progress on Kiev its if they just carpet bomb the whole city, because I don’t see them taking it with conventional methods, seeing their “stellar performance” on battle until now
@patriotjohn3179
@patriotjohn3179 2 жыл бұрын
The sequel is here
@pycckkuu
@pycckkuu 3 жыл бұрын
At 4:00 you have drawn Marshall Budyonnyi, whom you can recognize by his huge hussar-style mustache. He was a commander of the cavalry forces. Timoshenko was accurately shown in the beginning of this video.
@eatsh1t
@eatsh1t 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I’ll check this out. I thought Stalingrad was at an equal level of encirclement with the 6th army being trapped.
@user-gm3wr9dc9m
@user-gm3wr9dc9m 3 жыл бұрын
@Fabian Kirchgessner By the time of Stalingrad, greater german reich population was about 110 million (+half of europe as allies). Soviet population, considering occupied territories by axis, was about 120 million. Literally Wikipedia stuff, and people still misunderstand eastern front.
@stuka80
@stuka80 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-gm3wr9dc9m what?? Germanys population including Austria didnt get near 85 million. Thats at least 35 million less than the Soviet Union. Where are you getting 110 million from? If youre adding its allies, which is not the same as a single unified nation under a single unified government, then be fair and add the British Empire which had at least 500 million people and the US which had 140 million to the Soviet numbers. So going by your standard and numbers, Germany + allies is 110 million while Soviets + allies is 760 million. So the comment by the other poster still holds true, Germany could not afford such losses while the Soviet Union can. This is the problem i have with people and new age historians like the youtuber TIK that try to desperately reach and make arguments on why Germany wasnt as disadvantaged or more skillfull as its enemies. Theyll make up flawed arguments like including all of Europe in Germanys stats so that it will equal Soviets as if a bunch of countries that dont speak the same language with different leaderships, commitments and goals are the same as 1 single country. Or that Germany which singlehandidly gave US, SU, Britain the toughest fight in their history was somehow composed of bumbling, incompetent generals.
@user-gm3wr9dc9m
@user-gm3wr9dc9m 3 жыл бұрын
@@stuka80 As I said, literal Wikipedia stuff. It places population of Germany in 1940 at 110 million, including de-facto annexed territories (primarily Czech lands), and even if we consider that fewer people were mobilized there, the loss ratio of 1:1.3 (you have to include that half of europe i was talking about, and its losses) certainly shows that USSR's victory wasn't achieved by throwing countless bodies at the enemy, WW2 didnt occur during middle ages when that kind of a tactic could be useful.
@user-gm3wr9dc9m
@user-gm3wr9dc9m 3 жыл бұрын
@@stuka80 And by the way, the number of PoWs during the war is comparable, but more than half of soviet prisoners died in nazi camps, but about 1/6 or 1/7 axis prisoners died in soviet camps. This skews the data, the USSR did not commit genocides against its enemies and axis did. This was an intentional policy.
@stuka80
@stuka80 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-gm3wr9dc9m my source states otherwise, but lets go with your numbers, it still doesnt answer for the other factors ive laid out like the problem of equating multiple states as the same as a single unified state nor the numbers that the British commonwealth or US brings to the table.
@vz-v
@vz-v 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of loses in that battle are staggering, more than the whole war for some. I've never really learned about the battles in the east before.
@Briguy1027
@Briguy1027 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm . . . history repeats itself again and again.
@FreaKCSGOHacker
@FreaKCSGOHacker 3 жыл бұрын
He uploaded! It's Christmaaaas!
@Cjnw
@Cjnw 2 жыл бұрын
*Dr Who vibes*
@rudigerjoost8317
@rudigerjoost8317 2 жыл бұрын
"Declared Marshal Budjonyy as a scapegoat" --- to be fair. Budjonny WAS Unfit. He had experience with Cavalry Divisions, which where (mostly) obsolete and even as a Commander was so mindblowingly stupid, only getting though the ranks by being Stalins Buddy, that the officers and men of the red army called him "The men with the very big mustache and very tiny brain".
@superchug2469
@superchug2469 2 жыл бұрын
I love history and you do a good job. Keep up the work and do you think you can do videos on other wars. Civil War and the revolution and 1812 would be my top picks.
@fryhyh
@fryhyh 2 жыл бұрын
We're witnessing another encirclement of Kyiv
@demonetizedhistory5806
@demonetizedhistory5806 2 жыл бұрын
from the east
@albertm.legner6831
@albertm.legner6831 2 жыл бұрын
It is spelled Kiev
@denisbojean2876
@denisbojean2876 Жыл бұрын
@@albertm.legner6831 shut up
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