Biggest Fallers / Steals of the 2024 NFL Draft (NFL vs Consensus)

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TheJumboPackage

TheJumboPackage

2 ай бұрын

In this video, we'll discuss the 2024 NFL Draft prospects who fell the most compared to their consensus rankings. Consensus rankings for this video were gathered by taking the average of three separate consensus big boards, linked below. Who will be right? The media or the NFL?
Consensus Big Boards Used:
NFLMockDraftDatabase.com: www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/...
Arif Hasan Consensus Big Board: www.wideleft.football/p/2024-...
A-Z Sports Consensus Big Board: atozsports.com/nfl-draft/2024...
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@H0r1blCS
@H0r1blCS 2 ай бұрын
Reportedly shocked. "I was shocked" end quote
@TheJumboPackage
@TheJumboPackage 2 ай бұрын
Haha, I was about to start saying the whole quote and then I just thought it’d be funnier to do that 😂 thanks for watching!
@yeetusdeletus5714
@yeetusdeletus5714 2 ай бұрын
The I was shocked quote shouldnt have been as funny as it was 😂
@TheJumboPackage
@TheJumboPackage 2 ай бұрын
Hahah, glad you enjoyed!
@isaacmoore1146
@isaacmoore1146 2 ай бұрын
For Johnny Wilson I think what hurt him was that the most recent player that was tall and fast but didn’t have the best possession catch ability is Quinton Jonhston (I am his biggest fan) who hasn’t turned out super great
@TheJumboPackage
@TheJumboPackage 2 ай бұрын
Possibly!
@Thomas-vo9tf
@Thomas-vo9tf 2 ай бұрын
There needs to be a fbi investigation on “Chris” great video btw
@TheJumboPackage
@TheJumboPackage 2 ай бұрын
Agreed! Thank you so much!
@SumtingWong343
@SumtingWong343 Ай бұрын
3 of those picks and 2 top ten went to the Eagles!! Howie was cookin!!
@TheJumboPackage
@TheJumboPackage Ай бұрын
He really was! I really liked the eagles draft!
@xkaosG
@xkaosG 2 ай бұрын
Shoutout to chris
@TheJumboPackage
@TheJumboPackage 2 ай бұрын
Hahaha, he has all the background info we need, but no one can find him!
@jeffx40
@jeffx40 2 ай бұрын
Good video! I feel Rice may jave been overrated due to his name, school and production (w Caleb throwing to him), so that fall doesnt surprise me. Some of the other ones really are surprising though. Rounds 4-7 really is impossible to guess as teams boards seem to vary wildly. Regarding our previous discussion of Maye and JJ, how do you feel about how it played put. I feel you got the W with Maye going high (rumors are Vikings and Giants really wanted him too), but I'm not sure Maye got the W with that landing spot. Very bad oline and relying on rookies (whom I liked as possesion receivers, but Polk and Baker arent huge separaters which I feel would benefit the inaccurate Maye) and JuJu. While I already thought he'd be a bust, now I'd kind of be surprised if he wasnt. He's really being thrown to the wolves and I dont feel that was best for his development. JJ on the other hand fell into about as good of a rookie situation as you can get. If he doesnt succeed, you cant really make any excuses for him as he has elite WRs, a great line and awesome coaching. Bo Nix really felt like he fell to the perfect spot for him too, prob why so many correctly mocked that. I like Bo a lot and think he and Payton will do great, if Bo gets better and progressing through reads there is even some star potential there. But, with his great first read and run potential and the fit, I'd be very surprised of he busts. I'm a bit disappointed at Pratt going in the 7th to the Packers. Smart pick by them. This is why the whole Falcons thing makes so little sense to me. They didnt have to take a Penix at 8, take Pratt or Rattler late and then they can develop with no pressure. I think Pratt especially learning under Cousins would have been perfect, similar type of players. Another great video btw, havent seen the other draft content creators doing this. People going way higher than expected wpuld be interesting too. Grades are always fun too even if a bit silly. xD
@TheJumboPackage
@TheJumboPackage 2 ай бұрын
Hey man, glad to see you back and thanks so much for the kind comment- glad you enjoyed! I tend to agree on Rice- I wouldn’t have been comfortable taking him until about the 6th, although I admittedly have only watched 1 game of film on him. For the video though I wanted to be objective so I didn’t really give my own opinion on him! I’ve actually been thinking a bit about our past discussion because I remembered what you were saying about Josh Allen’s inaccuracy being largely over exaggerated. I actually wanted to mention that I think the same thing is happening with Maye. Is he the most accurate guy? Nope! But I don’t think he’s nearly as inaccurate as the media portrays so I wanted to bring that up. Addressing your specific questions though, I 100% agree on the landing spots. McCarthy went to the perfect situation. I’d hardly call anyone bust proof, but I will say that it’ll be extremely difficult for him to be bad with the offensive weapons around him and that coaching staff. Maye is definitely being thrown to the wolves. I like Polk and Baker a lot, but these rookies are competing to be their #1 WR instead of developmental pieces. I think they’ll really have to do something after year 1 to help him out, but by then it might already be too late. Hopefully not. I loved Bo to the broncos. I personally think he has a bit more upside than people are giving him credit for. He actually plays pretty well out of structure and throwing on the move and I think he could do a lot of good things with that offense. I think he could find himself in a very Kirk cousins-esque stature, placing himself around the 7th-12th best QB in the league in any given year and just being a consistently really good player. Penix has been super interesting to me because I actually don’t hate the logic. In theory, it might be more smart to draft a QB, the most valuable position, high up when you have the rare chance to have a top 10 pick in a really good QB class. Then they took 3 other shots at fixing their DL need that they would’ve otherwise addressed. I don’t think the strategy is awful in isolation. It’s definitely questionable when considering they just shelled out lots of money for an old QB, so presumably they’d want their team to be as good as possible right now to make that investment worth it. For me, my main qualm is the evaluation of the player, as I just didn’t see Penix as a 1st round guy, nonetheless a top 10 pick. I’m very open to being incorrect though and I hope he proves me wrong! I actually haven’t gotten around to watching Pratt quite yet, but I’ve heard good things and I’ll be checking him out soon! I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Rattler though! Thanks so much! I actually intend to do “the biggest reaches” of the draft next, which is something I’m super excited for. I’ll be doing the biggest reaches and fallers every year, just as I did last year! I would love to do grades, but it would just be so incomplete because there are so many players I have yet to watch since I work a lot at my real job so I’m behind on evaluations. I’d love to give my thoughts on some of the picks, but most of my answers would be “I’ve never seen this guy” and I don’t want to do that or lie and pretend I’ve seen him and just use media evaluations, so it unfortunately makes it hard for me to put out grades. Maybe in the future though!
@jeffx40
@jeffx40 2 ай бұрын
@@TheJumboPackage You mentioned you'd be glad to be wrong on Penix, that's how I feel about Maye. I wish him the best, but we have to agree to disagree on his accuracy. As mentioned, I watched all his film the year (it's the one position I can easily evaluate as a fan without all 22 since the camera is always focused on the qb anyway), so I'm not relying on others opinions. I saw him be wildly off target on easy throws in all directions with regularity. Where as my point with Josh Allen is he usually was on target, but just trying to fit ball into tight windows. Josh wasn't really that inaccurate at all, he was overconfident and a bit of a poor decision maker, which still plagues him in the NFL. If Drake's issues carry over to the NFL, I'm not sure he'll be able to overcome them cause as you know the pocket presence is bad and he also has a slow release (bad combo when playing behind a bad oline with receivers who might not separate quickly). I genuinely thought Maye could use a couple years on the bench working on things (many people forget this, but Aaron Rodgers had bad mechanical issues coming out of the draft, but he completely fixed them and then some while sitting on the bench behind Favre) and he got a terrible situation where he has to start right away and won't have any time to focus on the little things and will be running for his life constantly. I'm in lock step with you on Bo though. I feel like a skill that people are beginning to kind of underrate rate again is pre snap reads. This is what really made players like Manning, Brady and Brees elite (Rodgers is great at it too). People seem a bit too focused on the fact Bo often relied on his first reads, but in an ideal world, that's what you want. Read the defense and make the right decision before you even snap the ball. There's level's to this, he may be better a making the first read than another first read reliant QB like Fields. The fact he paired up with the perfect coach to enhance that skill and can scramble and throw well on the move as you alluded too should give him even better results than players like Brady, Brees and Manning had out of the gate. Of course, becoming good as them is unlikely, it takes crazy work ethic, but he does have the talent and showed constant improvement in college. That's why I said he has some star potential, but yeah, your projection is his more likely upside. Penix is the one QB I didn't watch film on of the 6 drafted in the first. So don't have a huge opinion on him, I just didn't like the process. While I see what you're saying in that you see the idea behind it, the backlash is part of the process they should have realized. The shock value of the pick puts a lot of pressure on Penix. It kind of creates that QB controversy vibe that teams dont want cause it brings unwanted attention that can be distracting. Where as you could just draft a QB later and develop him without all the hooplaw. It's not like there isn't a track record of late rounds QBs never working (Purdy, Brady, Dak, Romo, Warner, Cousins, Russ, and these are just the big names) or like 1st round qbs always hit. They could have taken a late one next year too, and the year after that. Speaking of which, Pratt is just the most Purdy like QB to come out since Purdy. He is 6'2", has a good, but not great arm, is accurate and plays well within structure, has played a lot of college ball and lifted a program by himself. He also is a pretty good scrambler. To me, he isn't that much worse of a prospect and Bo, which isn't an insult to Bo. I just don't get why the NFL continues to overlook these type of guys. Time and time again it's proven you don't have to have elite measurables to thrive in the NFL as a QB if you have it between the ears and have good enough measurables,, which Pratt does. Ah makes sense, I kind of still judge drafts using all the analysis I get following content creators...but if you are one you kind of need your own opinion on most players, which would be pretty time consuming without cheating. I'll look forward to the next video! I really liked all the info on this one.
@TheJumboPackage
@TheJumboPackage 2 ай бұрын
@@jeffx40 Although I didn’t doubt it based on our past conversations, I’m very happy to see you’re not actively rooting for Maye to fail just because you didn’t like his tape lol. It bothers me when people do that kind of stuff, but I appreciate your perspective on him, even if we ultimately disagree on his accuracy. That’s a really interesting point about. I completely agree that you ideally want your first read to be correct and, if so, its great if a QB throws that accurately and can make plays that way. I think the part that gets difficult when watching tape is whether a pre-snap read was made or whether he’s just looking at the pre-assigned primary. Its impossible to tell whether he read out the defense and looked to someone who he felt would be open pre-snap, or if he was simply following the progression laid out by the play itself and threw to that first read without really reading anything. One of those scenarios comes with huge credit to his ability to read a defense and another does not, so its hard to give someone that much credit without knowing for sure. That’s why its so difficult with QB scouting because it requires a lot of mental work and it just can’t be known what a guy was thinking or seeing without talking to them or being in their head. Still, I agree on the point that - if the guy is open, why would he throw the ball elsewhere! The pick itself definitely puts Penix at a disadvantage, but my guess would be that the organization has faith in Penix’s mentals that they don’t believe it’s a problem. Penix has overcome a lot of adversity, so I could see why they’d believe that, even if I don’t personally know him. Definitely doesn’t help that Cousins was reportedly very unhappy, already hurting their relationship from the start. Its still rather unfortunate for Penix that, as an older player who was seen as a day 1 starter, he was picked to a team that likely won’t start him for the absolute minimum of 1 year barring an injury. But I really hope it does work out for him. And thanks so much! I’m glad you’re looking forward to the next video. Its really awesome to hear that people are excited by the content. Because I’m a smaller channel, it can sometimes get lost on me why I’m putting in the amount of effort I am, but viewers like yourself remind me why I love doing this so much - to be able to talk ball with excellent individuals such as yourself!
@jeffx40
@jeffx40 2 ай бұрын
@@TheJumboPackage Yeah...that's a good point on who you assign Bo's 1st read success to more, Bo or Oregon. The thing is, with his landing spot it probably doesn't matter! Like Oregon, Payton likes a smart QB who will run his offense flawlessly. What we do know is Bo knew the Ducks offense inside and out and executed it perfectly, this in itself is a skill. For instance, a lot of people criticize Brock Purdy because they think anyone with more physical talent than him could do just as much if not more than him in that 49er offense. That's just false though, Shannahan has one of the most complex offences ever and not all QBs could absorb and execute it well, much less read defences and throw with anticipation as well as he does. It doesn't matter how physically gifted you are if you can't remember and execute all the plays Shannahan wants you to run. Bo to Denver really is one of the best fits ever. Even if Bo isn't making the reads himself yet, it's 100% a skill you can improve over time, as long as he absorbs all the info Payton gives him and executes it he'll be around long enough to get great at the pre snap reads. And based on what I've read about him, that's the skill of his I'm the most confident in. Glad to hear that :). I do feel for you small creators, I know how much work this takes. You're definitely better than a lot of the creators with more subs and views...but the world isn't always just. Hopefully you enjoy the process though so you are getting enjoyment out of it even if you're yet to make much money.
@TheJumboPackage
@TheJumboPackage 2 ай бұрын
@@jeffx40 Thank you, I really appreciate that! I don't mind being a smaller creator, as it gives me the leeway needed to work on the longer videos without high expectations and also gives me more time to interact with everyone! But I couldn't imagine trying to churn this videos out every week alongside my full-time job too. I'm just glad that people like yourself enjoy my videos, it means a lot!
@koiboi1562
@koiboi1562 2 ай бұрын
fire
@TheJumboPackage
@TheJumboPackage 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@fitfuzzballgaming
@fitfuzzballgaming 2 ай бұрын
Quinyon Mitchell should not have been a first round pick saw him play a lot especially against a very bad western Michigan team these last two years and man so happy Terron Arnold fell to my lions
@jeffx40
@jeffx40 2 ай бұрын
Quinion killed the process. He dominated the Senior Bowl and even showed he can be a great press corner which was his only supposed weakness. He also killed the combine. Quinion absolutely deserves to be the first corner off the board despite not playing in the SEC.
@christopherharbin5934
@christopherharbin5934 2 ай бұрын
Saban even said he wanted Quinyon Mitchell to enter the transfer portal. I think Saban would have played him over Arnold.
@TheJumboPackage
@TheJumboPackage 2 ай бұрын
We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one because I personally loved Quinyon. Obviously I’m not infallible, but I think he’ll be an excellent NFL player. Terrion Arnold is awesome though- I actually have film breakdowns of both players on my second channel if you want to hear my thoughts! Thanks for watching!
@tornadoknuckles
@tornadoknuckles 2 ай бұрын
Go birds
@choosecarefully408
@choosecarefully408 2 ай бұрын
Despite Ivan Pace, he fell due to size you say? NFL coaches & GMs are no less prove to Empty Rhetoric than 14-year-old girls. One guy in K.C. went against the narrative & said "get Mahomes." But for every hit how many misses? Well Matt Eberlfus bragged (what an ego) that He Decides what plays to limit his offense to even after losses & at the start of the '22 season his offense made Matt Canada's look like 4D chess. _But_ Eberflus is thought to be charming in an authoritative "Daddy-like" way. So despite the fact that he turned the Bears into "hand the ball of X3 then toss a slant or screen repeat" too boring for even high-school offense, then undid all the great changed Getsy brought in _twice,_ there has been no need whatever for players to speak in his defense. No one has blamed him for anything. Here's why it's important though. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a7B_ZLOk2taqj4k.html. Caleb Williams is slightly _worse_ than Justin Fields. I mean sure, not a _lot_ worse. He can't sustain long rushes as well as Fields & that should never be a deciding factor for any QB. But while Fields under-throws receivers only twice in these highlights allowing defenders to make plays on them, Williams does this a minimum of Ten Times including when he's not pressured at all & when those receivers are so wide open he floats the pass about 40 higher with more hang time that are *sure* to be INTs in the NFL. & Getsy ain't there any more. The thing about Eberflus meddling in the offense *after his OC proved to be (better than) adequate* including the o-line is this: only micro-managers do that. & the problems with micro-managers is that this is their identity, & their greatest fear is that things run smoothly enough that they no longer have an excuse to meddle. _But_ the *narrative is* that "Fields can't read defenses," right? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h9uYiMV6uNTWaKc.html. Uh-oh.
@choosecarefully408
@choosecarefully408 2 ай бұрын
While it may seem I'm ranting & obsessed, what Rattler said about a 6-year-old documentary emphasizes my points about how memes count for more than facts even for NFL coaches & GMs. Mental laziness exists everywhere & when a meme becomes entrenched, people stop thinking. Everything negative about Fields stemmed from the First Meme made of him which was "he can't read defenses." Every time one of his receivers dropped a pass that hit them in the hands, every time he scrambled out of the non-existent pocket was proof of this according to those who repeated the memes. & you know what? It was proven false kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h9uYiMV6uNTWaKc.html *_before_** he EVER* even took a snap in the NFL. This isn't something you can unlearn. So absolutely nothing that happened on the Bears was due to Fields' inability to read defenses. Not the terrible play-calling that was excused on this, not Mooney & Claypool channelling their inner Kaderius Toney & deflecting passes to the other team. None of it was due to any such lack on Fields' part which means he has no lacks. So why won't any teams offer more than a conditional 6th-rounder for him? No reason but they believe the memes.
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