BIGGEST SUBCOMMANDERS YET! Epic 4v4 East vs. West Challenge - Total War Warhammer 2

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milkandcookiesTW

milkandcookiesTW

4 жыл бұрын

In this epic Total War Warhammer 2 custom scenario on Total War Warhammer 2, its EAST vs. WEST as the hemispheres of the Warhammer world square off in a 4v4 Subcommanders battle with the Dark Elves, Skaven, Lizardmen, and Tomb Kings trading blows with Chaos, Norsca, the Greenskins, and the Dwarfs in a crazy match with monsters and mortals!

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@bjornliljedahl2857
@bjornliljedahl2857 4 жыл бұрын
you should redo this when kislev, chaos dwarfs and ogre kingdoms drop their own album
@UnreasonableOpinions
@UnreasonableOpinions 4 жыл бұрын
These subcommander battles are so much more entertaining than a lot of the genuinely competent matches, just because there's so very much going on when players who aren't as good as that play in a hugely complicated multi-part match. Everywhere you look there's something going completely right or completely wrong. This, and the matches where one or more player takes a completely unorthodox armies, are much more fun than the relatively-generic battles of unit efficiency that high-skill players playing safe constantly generate.
@Grivehn
@Grivehn 4 жыл бұрын
More happening= usually more fun. Also yeah, less experienced players can contend in these ones. While if you watch 1v1, and someone brings a way worse army or just less experienced, he will get stomped and thats no fun to watch. That and I kinda grew a bit tired of 1v1, seeing similar builds and matchups. FFA are good, subcommanders are great, SFO is also good because of the changes. But 1v1, even by the most professional players, seems a bit boring compared to these nowadays for me. Dont get me wrong, thats not their fault, and I could never play on their level. Its just how it is. 4-8 ppl making all kinds of crazyness is more fun than the sterile and expected builds of the highest level of 1v1. (Not that its always boring, of course its not. And the meta doesnt change often, so again, its not their fault. They in it for the win usually, cant expect them to bring A race against B which underperforms compared to C race.)
@droideka1890
@droideka1890 4 жыл бұрын
> Greenskin and Dawi on the same team Hah! The orcs got distracted by a more “worthy” enemy ar- > Skaven and Lizardmen on the same team * REAL SHIT *
@panickedpan875
@panickedpan875 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah....luckly he didn't mention the Skrolk x Gor-rok fanart.
@droideka1890
@droideka1890 4 жыл бұрын
Little sci fi fan readear -sighs- That’s a grudgin’
@panickedpan875
@panickedpan875 4 жыл бұрын
@@droideka1890 More than that. It's a Slaneeshi follower wet dream
@clarencevale5660
@clarencevale5660 4 жыл бұрын
droideka 1 I love it tho
@droideka1890
@droideka1890 4 жыл бұрын
Clarence Vale Same
@kieronamuos7631
@kieronamuos7631 4 жыл бұрын
I was the chaos player (rat smacker). I was overly aggressive, we couldn't see the countermeasures (dark elf cav and warp grinders) until I rounded the hill. The second time I went forward, there was an opening, the the target pulled back behind sepulchral stalkers. It was a mistake which I realised during the game, so I chilled for a bit and then attacked (which was still over-aggressive.) I couldn't push through to the skaven guns, I would've been collapsed on, Warp grindered, and rekt. It was still fun though, I had a good time sending Arhcaon to his death.
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 4 жыл бұрын
gg mate! fun battle for sure
@Aredel
@Aredel 4 жыл бұрын
kieronamuos Archaon is such a beast now, and he’s definitely one of my top three favorite LLs in the game. I remember doing a battle before Piercing Bolts got nerfed, where Archaon got surrounded by Grail Knights, so I pulled a Hail Mary and dropped a Bolts on his head, taking everyone with him to a fiery grave.
@MrJamesRye
@MrJamesRye 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe next time sending in a single Jav Cav to scout ahead and maybe chill in the backside of the enemy army outside of their archer rage while dodging their artillery shells would be better. Then you know what is up there, you can harass when there is an oppurtunity, you keep the Shock Cav in reserves and losing a Jav Cav ain't the end of the world compared to the other Units.
@quasar2834
@quasar2834 4 жыл бұрын
When the Skaven, the classic "sacrifice everything if it means victory" faction, have the lowest casualty rate in the match....
@_TestBot
@_TestBot 4 жыл бұрын
Quasar "sacrifice everything" includes allied units. Use filthy dead bone things and dark elf things and cold lizard things to stop enemy. Then shoot shoot for victory!
@fanofwar40k
@fanofwar40k 4 жыл бұрын
2:19 That's going in the Book of Grudges!
@KazeKoichi
@KazeKoichi 4 жыл бұрын
That was a very nice one. Hope for North vs South subcommanders in the future.
@atlas2649
@atlas2649 4 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to say it and i guess i will. R.I.P Gor rok, dont know what you did, but im sure you did something.
@tomasmisek5598
@tomasmisek5598 4 жыл бұрын
I kept my eye on him and he and his scar-vets were chasing archeon around until gor-rok got buldozed by soulcrusher, quite sad, gor-rok is one of my favorite lords
@PeterButchens
@PeterButchens 4 жыл бұрын
2:57 either there is something really wrong with me and I heard "right meow", or you've got some explaining to do. Anyway, epic battle! Thanks for brightening up me evening!
@redsalamander9999
@redsalamander9999 4 жыл бұрын
The lizards and the tomb Kings both got ruined, while the Skaven and Druchii had survivors. Fitting, the two most treacherous factions sending their 'allies' to their deaths.
@Prince__Teclis
@Prince__Teclis 4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in Ulthuan, we laugh watching them slay each other.
@diogoteixeira4950
@diogoteixeira4950 4 жыл бұрын
don't worry, Grom will bring the fight to you :)
@Prince__Teclis
@Prince__Teclis 4 жыл бұрын
@@diogoteixeira4950 And I'll enjoy pelting him with arcane fire from a mile away.
@azlow2076
@azlow2076 4 жыл бұрын
I hope your island sinks!
@Aredel
@Aredel 4 жыл бұрын
I was pissed that the High Elves weren’t in this fight. This would have been awesome seeing dragon princes riding down everything.
@mort4815
@mort4815 4 жыл бұрын
Bro teclis dogged the boys in the end times he was supposed to be ride or die with Tyrion ya do dawgg
@herrhosen7509
@herrhosen7509 4 жыл бұрын
I love these ambitious collaborations. Can we please get a 3v3 End Times fight with the special campaign units? 2 Chaos & Norsca vs. Empire, Bretonnia, & Dwarfs.
@zxjurassic0220
@zxjurassic0220 4 жыл бұрын
20:13 my poor dreadspear :(
@ragnerschwarzmane3412
@ragnerschwarzmane3412 4 жыл бұрын
zxjurassic 02 he was a true hero, a rarity amongst his kind. His last words where: „Run rat filth, i‘ll hold them off!“ Little did he know that his bravery was wasted on the Skaven cowards... RIP in peaces. Literally. Edit: wait it looks like the ratling guns did come back and even fired avenging volleys into the Fimir. Thats true friendship right there lol.
@grerook9427
@grerook9427 4 жыл бұрын
please indypride! we need more big ass battles like this, please bring us more!
@SirButtz
@SirButtz 4 жыл бұрын
This really needs a Tolkien themed match like Orks, Chaos and Vampires vs. Elves, Men and Dwarves
@DoctorFail
@DoctorFail 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, at least _one_ of these factions came to battle so high they went blind. Or all of them...
@kouranenluathaan5576
@kouranenluathaan5576 3 жыл бұрын
Who needs a Warhammer movie when you can see battles like that.
@panickedpan875
@panickedpan875 4 жыл бұрын
I like to think that this was an allience of Chaos and Greenskins so powerful that it forced the lizardmen and the skaven to put their differences apart and ally, taking Malekith and Khalida with them. And the Dwarfs are actually Chaos Dwarfs.
@panickedpan875
@panickedpan875 4 жыл бұрын
@Dalton K Gor-rok:"FUCK YOU TZEENTCH" Tzeentch: " *sniff* just as planned"
@ericfoltz1979
@ericfoltz1979 4 жыл бұрын
0:47 Northwest is exiles of nehek, but in vortex khalida is southwest, so still east vs. west *shrug*
@bigotbanksy4590
@bigotbanksy4590 4 жыл бұрын
for the record, I was in the call as this was being set up. It was decided they would go off of Mortal Empires.
@senshibat8920
@senshibat8920 4 жыл бұрын
Thats the Rolls Royce of Constructs.. one pretty kitty.
@mattdowner7779
@mattdowner7779 4 жыл бұрын
Love this! Do more and make sure that there are always lizardmen!
@bleflar9183
@bleflar9183 2 жыл бұрын
Ork: I neva thought id get krumped foighting side by with a stuntie. Dwarf: What the Krut am i doing here.
@Steve-ps6qw
@Steve-ps6qw 4 жыл бұрын
I love it! Great that the Lizardmen side won too!
@KazeKoichi
@KazeKoichi 4 жыл бұрын
OBJECTION! In Vortex campaign Khalida has one of the westest (is that a word?) starting positions.
@redandinata4568
@redandinata4568 4 жыл бұрын
I think it should be westernmost
@sageofcaledor8188
@sageofcaledor8188 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing it. I liked it.
@almightykingpin6322
@almightykingpin6322 4 жыл бұрын
I can just imagine skaven on the dwarf thing menace screamin LET IT RIP!!
@GaldirEonai
@GaldirEonai 4 жыл бұрын
That pop-pop-pop sound you're hearing is lore nerds' heads exploding all over the world :P.
@mort4815
@mort4815 4 жыл бұрын
Indy that thumbnail is lit man 😂😂
@cadabanban5382
@cadabanban5382 4 жыл бұрын
Just got a smile to look at the forces in presence, like. This is going to be EPIC, hahahaha For the Vermintide!!!!
@insultinsultan705
@insultinsultan705 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LIVE for these glorious subcommanders
@123fakestreettt
@123fakestreettt 4 жыл бұрын
This match kinda feels like what total war warhammer should be. From a scale perspective it really feels like a warzone and how it should melt your computer. Awesome to watch, got some pelennor fields vibes from those mammoths and the open field.
@pjadtron9415
@pjadtron9415 4 жыл бұрын
Chaos got utterly dumped on and some of the micro was painful to watch like the Irondrakes but apart from that glorious video. I love these type of videos, keep the ball rolling my dude.
@hectorandem2944
@hectorandem2944 4 жыл бұрын
Put some #respek on this man's thumbnail game. 💪
@StygianBeach
@StygianBeach 4 жыл бұрын
What an epic chaotic battle. I loved watching the mammoths bully the Doom Wheel around. Have you thought about doing some Subcommander Civil Wars? It is probably a bit hard though getting 6+ players to choose the same army, but I think it would make an interesting watch.
@zxjurassic0220
@zxjurassic0220 4 жыл бұрын
Hey I was in this!
@Limboinpinbo
@Limboinpinbo 4 жыл бұрын
Were you the person that fucked up the selection? 😏
@loudmusic4us179
@loudmusic4us179 4 жыл бұрын
The skaven gameplay was ASTOUNDING this match!
@conman7298
@conman7298 4 жыл бұрын
Put a fork in em cause he's done!
@Aredel
@Aredel 4 жыл бұрын
Mammoths and constructs are cool and all, but I was hoping for a battle between the OG factions of each game. Still awesome though, so keep up the great work!
@hannoverfist5628
@hannoverfist5628 4 жыл бұрын
So hard to get eight good connections and eight machines to digest that effectively........goood stuff...
@FrankyFes
@FrankyFes 4 жыл бұрын
we need more of this!!!!!
@theShantai
@theShantai 4 жыл бұрын
Hi indy! Great video as always... I was wondering, what's your pc build? If you dont mind to share of course. Keep up the good work man
@djgnu
@djgnu 4 жыл бұрын
Simply awesome...LOL, like a beyblade.
@asomeone4399
@asomeone4399 4 жыл бұрын
Are.. are proud dawi fighting side by side with A FILTHY URK??? thats like a whole page in the book
@danielboyas7645
@danielboyas7645 4 жыл бұрын
That's a whole volume of books
@Crytica.
@Crytica. 4 жыл бұрын
Skaven was MVP no way around it
@phunkyzilla
@phunkyzilla 4 жыл бұрын
It’s “butter him up cause he’s toast”
@D-Z321
@D-Z321 3 жыл бұрын
Yall need that south central.
@libertylemonz7145
@libertylemonz7145 4 жыл бұрын
Once we get Chaos Daemons and Chaos Dwarves in WH3 we will be able to do a full Chaos team for subcommanders 4 v 4
@ronnie5340
@ronnie5340 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah mate
@johnsinth8261
@johnsinth8261 4 жыл бұрын
13:23 : very manly maneuver
@talscorner3696
@talscorner3696 4 жыл бұрын
Pierced mammoth trunks are oddly fascinating... especially when those rings are heavier than me xD
@jamesradcliffe4351
@jamesradcliffe4351 4 жыл бұрын
MY dude Turin is live you should join in teh fun!!
@grimgoreironhide9985
@grimgoreironhide9985 4 жыл бұрын
Chaos Crips vs Dwarve Disciples
@MrBones-td6qn
@MrBones-td6qn 4 жыл бұрын
In the Vortex campaign, which is what Warhammer 2 is based around, Khalida is on the west side, so, get owned.
@joshmaggard6
@joshmaggard6 3 жыл бұрын
What kinds of horrible things had to happen to the world that Lizardmen and Skaven are not butchering each other on sight, and Dark elves and Tomb Kings will walk beside that rabble?
@bigotbanksy4590
@bigotbanksy4590 4 жыл бұрын
PROF WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
@jeffhyde5269
@jeffhyde5269 4 жыл бұрын
After the Greenies get buffed with the new DLC coming, should do an east/west rematch. Maybe it's just me, but I always felt the "west" (Skaven, Helves, Delves, Tkings, etc., Any of the new armies) have an upper hand over the races of WH1 still.
@crispycrow8324
@crispycrow8324 4 жыл бұрын
Glorious
@georgesoha4725
@georgesoha4725 4 жыл бұрын
@indy are you planning on continuing the total war 40k series? And would you consider doing different universes like GoT WoT or lotr?
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 4 жыл бұрын
yes i will do more vids for that series!
@Doomseer
@Doomseer 3 жыл бұрын
I know good amount about warhammer lore but I've yet to play totalwar warhammer 2 and as a result I'm curious if you play as Wulfric the wanderer can you become the new everchosen if you defeat Archaon?..
@dac314
@dac314 4 жыл бұрын
EAST VS WEST BOWL: Sequester Hadunkachunk! Xmas JacksonFlaxsonWaxson! Tyrone Smoochie Wallace!
@Atreides1GDI
@Atreides1GDI 4 жыл бұрын
Great battle and all but how was that subcommanders? Everybody brought everything.
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 4 жыл бұрын
every player brings 2-4 fodder infantry units so the armies actually look like armies and so there are units to kill. its lame when a player is only monsters or only range and only brings like 50-100 models. makes the armies look tiny, less things to kill, less fun overall. Every army had a clear theme and focus, none of these are legitimate army builds that would function well alone. Dwarfs and Skaven were range and technology, Norsca and Chaos were cav and monster focused, Greenskins and Lizardmen were infantry, Dark Elves were cav and flyers, Tomb Kings were constructs. Thats the spirit of Subcommanders. TK and DE might have brought a few too many infantry tho
@TheSpecialRussian
@TheSpecialRussian 4 жыл бұрын
"About 5000 thousand models on the Field right .." What?)) 2:57
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 4 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a6ubqqV2sZqxiqs.html
@thouvenelclement2398
@thouvenelclement2398 4 жыл бұрын
Khalida starts in the west in the vortex campaign
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 4 жыл бұрын
thats a point I guess. but still supposed to pick a Northwest faction. there were 2 Southwests, 2 Northeasts, 2 Southeasts. we did say "pick khatep" ;P
@blueace7073
@blueace7073 4 жыл бұрын
Yay,war:)
@CoolSmoovie
@CoolSmoovie 4 жыл бұрын
We was Kings and shit
@aidbotwoody939
@aidbotwoody939 4 жыл бұрын
Khalida is technically a West faction in Vortex? because she's off the southwest coast of Lustria, its only in ME that she's east. It may be a bit of a stretch but its something.
@willnash7907
@willnash7907 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Indie, LOVE subcommanders. Great fight too and I enjoyed watching it but I think you can take it a bit slower and show us more of the big picture stuff in-between the cool shots and the moment to moment. I feel like you could have pulled out either a great 40-50 minute video here or an okay one at 20 minutes and it's a bit of a shame you went with the second. At least that's just my opinion.
@jiado6893
@jiado6893 4 жыл бұрын
I get the Doomwheel got to included with the Skaven force because it has a ranged attack, but why were the Doom-Flayers allowed?
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 4 жыл бұрын
for the same reason Chaos had Forsaken and Shaggoths and Chaos Knights, Norsca had Berserkers, and Lizardmen had a Stegadon. I wasnt just range, I was high tech stuff. But each army had a couple units to round out their builds and get better variety on the field
@jiado6893
@jiado6893 4 жыл бұрын
@@milkandcookiesTW It just seemed weird because just based on artillery and weapons teams, the Skaven have such a wide variety to pick from. Compared to say, Cavalry picks for Chaos.
@danielberthelot1295
@danielberthelot1295 4 жыл бұрын
More of this.
@thethanor
@thethanor 4 жыл бұрын
Boy, that chaos player did not seem to do a very good job this game. Seemed over eager.
@FredericoASousa
@FredericoASousa 4 жыл бұрын
epic
@Gr_ywind
@Gr_ywind 4 жыл бұрын
I can feel my frame rate dying just by watching.
@tuso4ever
@tuso4ever 4 жыл бұрын
2pac and biggie haha nice 😂🤣👍💯😁
@roarkeshanley8542
@roarkeshanley8542 4 жыл бұрын
I apologize if I missed it in the video - which map is this?
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 4 жыл бұрын
Barrier Idols
@Chonicle2
@Chonicle2 4 жыл бұрын
One of these things is not like the other...
@rockjock3
@rockjock3 4 жыл бұрын
Nice fight, but IMO it was a foregone conclusion that Westside would win, they had over 3100 troops while Eastside only had about 2000 troops and was Elite heavy and had to go in, while the side with the most troops just waited for them to come in. You can make the argument that numbers don't make as much of a difference here, but with magic, good tactics, and use of abilities and even the most elite of units that could trade easily in a vacuum would lose handily to lesser troop equivalents, and if you're outnumbered, there's really not a whole lot of maneuvering you can do to change the fact that you're surrounded and possibly outgunned.
@Anubid
@Anubid 4 жыл бұрын
SFO subcommanders when?
@EnkaMexi
@EnkaMexi Жыл бұрын
i love it, its like watching a sports match comment for warhammer epic multiplayer battles 👍
@alecadanglao8386
@alecadanglao8386 4 жыл бұрын
MaLOLkith, Naggarond University
@MarineCARMINE
@MarineCARMINE 2 жыл бұрын
Skaven are so op
@SUNTZUAcademy
@SUNTZUAcademy 4 жыл бұрын
Biggest sub commanders is Total War: Arena
@fadope1612
@fadope1612 4 жыл бұрын
10:08 or you just use guard mode?
@kuehnjakob
@kuehnjakob 4 жыл бұрын
17:36
@thouvenelclement2398
@thouvenelclement2398 4 жыл бұрын
Skaven theme was unclear. If it was tech, plageclaw catapults don't work. (Just wood man) In plus of it, you had clanrats.
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 4 жыл бұрын
every army in this battle had chaff infantry. its not fun fighting against an army that only has
@simpbeforeusleep
@simpbeforeusleep 4 жыл бұрын
I am glad you admitted cav has lost its purpose in total warhammer. Invest money in one light unit to chase routers and that’s it. So sad, I blame partly the battle engine.
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 4 жыл бұрын
thats not what I said at all lol. 3v3 subcommanders battles have literally ZERO bearing on the balance or lack thereof of cavalry in total War Warhammer. Cav and mobility is a very important element of high level/competitive multiplayer for Warhammer 2
@simpbeforeusleep
@simpbeforeusleep 4 жыл бұрын
@@milkandcookiesTW Yeah sorry but I almost never see expensive heavy cavalry used worth it's money unless the opponent is incompetent or simply makes a mistake. I think there are just about any other units than heavy cav that can get your monies worth. Sorry for misunderstanding what you said big boy ;). How do subcommander battles work differently than normal, is money still a large factor or can you pretty much recruit whatever you want?
@simpbeforeusleep
@simpbeforeusleep 4 жыл бұрын
Also, skaven are the best yes yes.
@Zeke90k
@Zeke90k 4 жыл бұрын
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
@gingerfever691
@gingerfever691 4 жыл бұрын
I IZ DA FURST I IZ DA BEST!!
@GumshoeClassic
@GumshoeClassic 4 жыл бұрын
WUT IZ DIS?! AN HUMIE PRETENDIN' TO BE UN OF OUR BOIZ?! BY GORK 'N MORK.... uhh... how do ya' pinkskinz say... HARASY!! YA DIDN' EVEN TRY TA PAINT YAHSELV GREEN!!
@galbert117
@galbert117 4 жыл бұрын
It saddens me when the Dwarves lose.
@vtheman1850
@vtheman1850 3 жыл бұрын
Looking at the size of this my only comment is... I want ur CPU
@eldrenofthemist2492
@eldrenofthemist2492 4 жыл бұрын
I hate it that the west side all ways beats the east side, That stooped Power Creep that come with warhammer 2. Just makes these kinda games, So Predictable. :(
@Howler452
@Howler452 4 жыл бұрын
"Chaos, Norsca, Greenskins, and Dawi" There aren't enough books for this amount of Grudges. Edit: Oh god the heresy got worse.
@redandinata4568
@redandinata4568 4 жыл бұрын
Just think of the as Chaos Dwarfs
@chevysuarez7306
@chevysuarez7306 4 жыл бұрын
hang on isnt clan skryers hq in the old world? why are they considered a western faction
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 4 жыл бұрын
i was Clan pestilens
@krazhuk
@krazhuk 4 жыл бұрын
11:56 i think your confused, you obvious mean: Biker Mice From Mars! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r56mo8h1qrWteWg.html
@krazhuk
@krazhuk 4 жыл бұрын
Srsly what was that chaos guy thinking? Marching full speed across the map, just to uncover his ambush way to early, marching back over the cliff all the way around again. Taking unnecessary damage and giving the enemy time to reform lines aswell as fatiguing his army. Chaos knights where very tired before their first contact with enemy, you only had one job....
@BobBob-tr7wi
@BobBob-tr7wi 4 жыл бұрын
Is it rude for me to genuinely dislike the Skaven? I don't even have the game and I find them annoying
@jakandaxter1
@jakandaxter1 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao why
@milkandcookiesTW
@milkandcookiesTW 4 жыл бұрын
disliking imaginary rats is not generally considered rude no lol
@sushanalone
@sushanalone 4 жыл бұрын
0:44 Or Maybe, that Tomb King player thought... (Russian Accent)This milkandcookiesTW, is a cowardly loud-mouth who talks to much shit and cannot pronounce Tomb King Names too well, maybe i will pick Khaida ,and we will see if he will do something about it...! ;P lol would be epic.
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