R1200GS / R1250GS | Complete Buyer's Guide [2005-2020]

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R1200GS / R1250GS | Complete Buyer's Guide [2005-2020]

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The R1200GS is the most popular large adventure bike worldwide. In this buyer's guide, I break down the details of each generation and yearly changes since 2005. If you are shopping for a new or used R1200GS or R1250GS, this is the video you need to watch to understand the details of the changes they have made since 2005.
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@BigRockMoto 2 жыл бұрын

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@nitishnagarajrao 3 жыл бұрын

Ian, you must have saved the world a lot of time collectively by cramming all that information in this video. Thank you.

@BigRockMoto 3 жыл бұрын

No problem

@ektalon1 3 жыл бұрын

I am currently shopping for a GS and this is the BEST, most informative review of 2005-present GS models! Invaluable.Thank you!

@MrRobertMacknaw 2 жыл бұрын

Same here.

@St.E.V.T 2 жыл бұрын

Ian I have to say you are born to do this and a million other things I’m sure but this, for sure! Most informative, no bull, cram packed presentation(s) available on KZfaq. You are the model for all other testimonial/tutorials. Thankyou and keep on truckin on!!

@gorideworld Жыл бұрын

Ian, thanks a million for this video, I just bought a 2014 low mileage (22k miles) R1200GSA following your advice! I was really worried by the weight and size but the bike handles so much easier than I expected on and off-road! Unless you do rock climbing or single track trails this bike is great, even an amateur like me can take it almost anywhere! Thanks again for the advice!

@pgilland Жыл бұрын

I love my 07 1200 gs. I know I would appreciate a 1250 if I tried one, but the lower weight, and significantly lower cost of the used 07 I purchased makes me happy 😊. Thanks for making the videos, Ian. We appreciate the time and love you’ve put into creating them 👍🏼

@failranch9542 7 ай бұрын

I’ve had both. An ‘07 oil cooled like yours and a ‘14 liquid cooled. Nothing wrong with the LC but I sure wish I’d held on to the ‘07. Other than not being as fast, I liked it better in every way. It just had a certain intangible je ne sais quoi. Felt like it was carved out of a single block of Teutonic alloy. The ‘14 does everything right but just feels like a soulless Japanesque appliance thing.

@AgentJayZ 2 ай бұрын

I recently bought a 2007 1200 GS with 85,000 miles on it. It runs like new, and I actually prefer it to my buddy's 2021 1250. It's simpler, and I have never felt like it needs more power.

@alftorrisi8795 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ian just a small note, the 2007 model does not have servo brakes. Only 2005, 06 ran this system. So I feel if you are an enthusiast and wanted to dodge the electrics and possible servo issues the 2007 model might be the go to model. Personally I love the analogue gauges. Perhaps it’s an old man thing but as your reflexes slow and sight dwindle etc it’s nice to look down and perhaps through familiarity etc you spot rpm and speed fairly instantly.

@Erknlssn 2 жыл бұрын

Can confirm this, having owned a '07. Targeted it for being freed of it while still being the most lightweight GS. :)

@Angry-Lynx Жыл бұрын

Yes imo best is to have modern screen with all info and analogue rpm counter, optionally also speedo

@rustytanks Жыл бұрын

Yup...just bought a 2007 with 25000km's on, I'm the second owner, and I asked the previous owner about the servos, he confirmed and have a note from BMW that the 2007 is servo free, look for the big holes on the slip ring on the left disc, servo brakes have small holes

@johnwoods5995 Ай бұрын

Knowledge is power

@mac22011964 2 жыл бұрын

Great summary BUT the 2010 to 2013 cam head bikes had a lot more important updates than outlined here. The clutch was updated to over one a common problem with the thrust bearings on earlier models. The gear shift was also much improved and could be called slick - certainly MUCH better then the later liquid cooled bikes. Also the rear final drive unit got 2 updates (the last being the 2012 model year) which over came many of the weaknesses of earlier models. Finally, the troublesome fuel strip was finally replaced with a good old float in 2012 I think…although BMW have just released a fix for the strip. So, if you can go for a 2012 or 13 for a GSA. Folks also commented on the cost of shock replacement which is high. BMW will tell you they cannot be reconditioned which will rubbish. There are any number of shops in the US/UK and Europe that I am aware of which will rebuild and ESA shock for about £150 and give you a better valves shock back.

@HawkesChris 5 күн бұрын

I'm just looking at a 2011 model 27k miles in the UK. It doesn't have ABS. So am I right that it was optional. My 1150 which has now done 91k Miles doesn't have ABS and it's not an issue for me.

@mac22011964 5 күн бұрын

Yes ABS was an option BUT I have never seen a later twin cam without it. I assume you don’t have ESA (electronic suspension) etc as well….so very basic bike. Nothing wrong with that at all.

@HawkesChris 5 күн бұрын

@mac22011964 Ive not test ridden it or scrutinised it yet I've only seen it in the showroom very quickly. I'm not sure about the electronic suspension. I like basic, but if I'm stepping up from a 2000 registration gs1150 should I go for one with abs and electronic suspension...that's the question I keep asking myself. I do like basic bike though, that's what has always put me off the 1250. Too much tech. It's the twin cam oil cooled engine I like, the same as I have in my R nine T. Such a sweet engine.

@astrobusa 4 жыл бұрын

Great video Ian! The definitive guide that everyone has been waiting for. I took weeks to do all my research and decide on a lightly used 2017.5 GS. I did consider the 1250, but a lightly used 2017.5 is the best value at the moment. I was able to buy one with thousands of dollars worth of accessories, on-road use only and only 10,000 miles for about $7000 less than a lightly used 2019 with no options. Keep up the great work! Another easy way to check if a 2017 model has the 2017.5 upgrades is that colored circle inside the speedo and tacho is blue.

@kee7678 4 жыл бұрын

Nice! congrats. I'm looking for the same, for the same reasons.

@astrobusa 4 жыл бұрын

@@kee7678 this is my first GS and I'm really enjoying it. I keep asking myself why I waited so long to finally get one of these outstanding bikes.

@ektalon1 3 жыл бұрын

@@astrobusa I asked my friend who owns a 2016 for his opinion and he said the same thing. "Wished he had bought one sooner."

@astrobusa 3 жыл бұрын

@@ektalon1 .... I totally agree

@shrimpii3155 3 жыл бұрын

This is DOPE! EXACTLY what i was searching for :) thanks mate

@2wheelsrbest327 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Ian great video. Owned several GS the first was a 2009 then I exchanged it for Honda CrossTourer DCT as I wanted a newer bike. Big big mistake because it was so heavy and after only a few months of ownership I exchanged it for a 2008 GS. Yes BMW really do need to make sure they don't make their bikes too heavy. So I had in the space of several months ended up with an older bike. But the advantage with that was I now had a bike without ESA and no Tyre Pressure Monitors. One of those cost me £250 to replace because of incompetent tyre fitter. Yes its great to have all the fancy technology but boy if it goes wrong your talking lots of money to get it repaired. Thats probably why so many still love the 1100cc & 1150cc.All that said after over 50 yeas of riding bikes tw0 three & four cylinders its the Boxer motor for me every time. Stay safe.

@infeedel7706 Жыл бұрын

Thank you from Australia, your guide helped me select a model with confidence. Picked up a 2010 R1200gs with under 50,000Ks on the clock in near pristine condition.

@christophepoteaux3932 3 жыл бұрын

I am looking for an air/oil head GS. Most likely will be focusing on 2010-12 models . Thanks for this very comprehensive presentation

@evovulpes122 2 жыл бұрын

Hey there! Just to let you know, I Just bought a 2007 GS to replace my '04 with 80k. One of the reason I picked this year is that it does Not have servo brakes. Just FYI.

@armyofshea7941 2 жыл бұрын

Great content, Ian! After a 25 year break in riding I got back into the game on a BMW650GS. Loved it and it convinced me of the BMW two wheel quality. It was a great bike, but I wanted a little better off road capability for my skill level (low). After trying to find an ADV/Dual Sport through most of 2021 I finally gave up on the idea and decided to have a dedicated road bike and an off road MC. Am now the proud owner of a 2007 R1200RT and a 2004 KTM 200 two stroke for $6500 combined. The RT is amazingly comfortable, and concur that cruise control and adjustable windscreens are the bomb! As for the KTM… it still scares the crap out of me and I love it.

@davidsnipes7297 2 жыл бұрын

I think the servo brakes were only 2005-2006. This is why the 2007 is special. The GSA camhead carried thru until 2013. LC GSA started in 2014. Big drawback to 2010 and earlier is the fuel strip for the gas gage. 2011 they changed to a reliable float. Thx for bringing this together.

@kawabungah20 2 жыл бұрын

This is a great buyer's guide. I learned a lot about the GS. I feel that a GS or GSA may be in my future. This is also an interesting historical piece. Bravo!

@Latham14 3 жыл бұрын

Good appraisal. Just to note I have a late 2007 model. It does NOT have the servo assisted brakes that the 05-06 has.

@markbourbonnais5378 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I was going to mention that as well. I have an ‘07 GSA ABS and it doesn’t have the dreaded servo brakes.

@timg9134 2 жыл бұрын

Your channel has swung me...I sold my last street bike 8 years ago, when my wife was pregnant with our first child...your riding with kids video convinced me that it's time to get another bike. I've always been a cruiser guy, but have always ridden dirt bikes also. A few weeks ago I began looking at Harley's, bit6 you swung me to search out a BMW R1200GSA. I've located a 2015 and planning to go look at it next week. Thanks for all of your content, your videos are always well thought out and professional!

@Seb0046 4 жыл бұрын

I ride a 13' GSA. The last oil cooled GSA. Does not have ASC (traction control) but never felt I needed it. I do miss the cruise control, but have the Kaoko throttle lock which is good enough. I love the grunt on the low revs. I have never felt under power on the street. Must agree with the crank case quite rough . I am still keeping this one for several more years before upgrading. The ESA works very well. Nice weight, lots of service history. The best bike I have owned so far.

@af5889 Жыл бұрын

The motorcycle generally regarded as the world's finest deserves a fantastic and ranging video like this. Terrific job thoroughly, yet briefly taking us through this history. Beyond useful for us experienced riders considering our first GS. Thank you.

@enriquesilva5033 3 күн бұрын

What a great video… all the information you need.. just bought a uded GSA and watched this video a lot of times… great job.. Congratulations… 💪

@benjahnz Жыл бұрын

Great video. Personally I prefer your earlier work like “Sean of the dead” or” Hot Fuzz” but this stuff is still right up there.

@dgpofficial3640 Ай бұрын

I love how some of your takeaways in this video are that you wished you held out for the 1250, and to see how much you ended up loving your 1250A, and one of the biggest reoccurring comments was the weight needs to start going back down, which is has on your new 1300! Thank you for this video explaining the evolutions of the GS!

@Titan500J 10 ай бұрын

In 2019 my son in-law gave me a 05 1200 GS with only 1700 miles in it. It was in a climate controlled hanger with other toys but it had regular service done on it. I love this bike! I do my own maintenance but the two things I don't like is the LCD as that it's hard to read in sunlight. Second is the servo breaks because there very touchy and they require specialized service every 2 years. I do it every year just to play it safe. Wonderful video, I've watched it several times. Thanks

@NobutakaYamazaki 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Ian for the effort put into this video. I own a 2010 camhead and always look to the newer R1200/R1250 but didn't figure out the exact differences with them. My GSA is in the limit of the weight I can manage comfortably so I guess I'll stick to it for a while. Cheers from Spain.

@BigRockMoto 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@smudgemo 7 ай бұрын

I just wanted to swing by this video again and say thank you for creating it. I used it as a guide for which model to buy when I wanted to see what the ADV thing was all about w/o spending a ton of money. I got a 2008 with 25k miles about 18 months ago, and I've ridden it all over CA and the western states while adding various accessories for safety and utility. Every time I ride it puts a smile on my face. I seldom ride just for fun, so this bike being a do everything is perfect for me. I'm next planning for a Honda or Kawi 300 dual purpose in spring or summer, and I'll be using your experiences as a guide again.

@DanielBannon 4 жыл бұрын

This is a superbly informative video, you did your research and created well-formatted tables. Those visuals are hugely helpful to punctuate your points about 1) each generation 2) all-up. I believe your pros and cons were well-balanced, too. My history with GS's is amusing: zero ownership, but a rental for 2,700 miles (!) and more than three weeks, 2K dirt and 700 pavement (roughly), in SA, Namibia, Botswana, and Zimbabwe. With a group including Charley Boorman and Billy Ward, no less (a long story)...two guys you need to be with to learn how to ride this bike quickly. And ride it FAST yet not recklessly, see what it can really do on good gravel roads, marginal gravel roads, sand, and good trails. Some years later, I'm inches from buying a 1250. Your comments pretty much seal the deal. Thanks a million, Subscribed.

@gastramp 3 жыл бұрын

Made me smile when you were clearly going to mention Long way rou.... then cut! 😀

@brunoumoffia6098 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic review. You just made life a whole lot easier for me. All I need to do is work on my budget. Thank you so much 🙏🏽

@dsquires16 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. I am going to keep riding my ‘05 gs. It has plenty of power and performance for me. I did the ‘abs-ectomy’ when my servo started to fail. The older ‘17.5 model with analog gauges is most appealing to me of the newer bikes.

@raggysbikes1589 2 жыл бұрын

Was it removing the servo and keeping it non servo assisted? Like a conventional bike? I just bought a 05 1200gs

@Rover4387 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for Making this. I am looking For an air GS and this solidified what I thought! Ride Safe

@BigRockMoto 3 жыл бұрын

No problem

@hipchick119 Жыл бұрын

i am thinking to buy 1150 GS year 2000 130k and replaced clutch from owner in his 60s he took good care about bike

@paulsire 2 жыл бұрын

This is probably the best breakdown of any bike I have seen. Thank you for taking the time to make this

@BigRockMoto 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@thenewreal Жыл бұрын

Really appreciate the work you put into this. I must however note one factual error: you said that the use of the servo braking system extended to 2007 when in fact the use of that system ended in 2006. I own a 2007 and it uses standard ABS braking. The brakes are linked, but they do not use the servo system.

@daveem7101 4 жыл бұрын

I have the 2020 r1250gsa and I am in love..... So versatile and nimble when moving!! Great history👍

@NobutakaYamazaki 3 жыл бұрын

When I first drove my GSA I was astonished how easy it was to drive it, like a bicycle!! When stopped it's like moving a dead whale, but when you start moving... Unbelievable!👍

@areshuan Жыл бұрын

This is the only comparative video about the evolution of the GS. Simple and to the point. Thank you

@patrickvogelsang497 11 күн бұрын

Great overview I was looking for. Thanks!

@vipahman 10 ай бұрын

Thanks. Just bought a 2019 R1250GS based on this. Fingers crossed!

@nickcomer391 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this matey, exactly what I needed. Just about to buy the 2018 GS.

@BigRockMoto 3 жыл бұрын

great choice ride safe

@stephensmith3763 4 жыл бұрын

I would love a buyers guide to the 700/50 and 800/50 buyers guide:)

@glenneverson651 2 жыл бұрын

Man you just saved me a lot of time and heartache about what model GS to get… thanks and great video

@andrewedmond7738 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative and extremely helpful as I am deciding on whether to go used or new regarding the GSA/GS. Thanks for the video, much appreciated.

@BigRockMoto 3 жыл бұрын

No worries

@christopherbiomass7155 3 жыл бұрын

I bought my first GS a month ago. A 2013. Love the bulk of it, but hate certain aspects of it. This video is great for differences between model years (thank you), but does not address differences between 'trim' levels. Plain GS, Adventure, Premium(?), LC(?). I'm learning that there are very significant differences between them (and not just bolt on items like bars, etc.) I've seen videos from others that are supposed to be explaining the differences, but they clearly don't know as much as I do, and I don't know anywhere near enough.

@nicholasshaw7672 10 ай бұрын

Brilliant, smart, concise technical input & commentary- fun / entertaining as usual...'big hello' from here in North-West England, UK, we love you 'Big Rock'!

@kebbs56 3 жыл бұрын

I'm looking to get a GS and this vid has been so helpful thankyou!

@JCBigCat Жыл бұрын

Just got a 2017 Rallye and it’s the best bike I’ve ever seen or ridden. Thanks for this guide Ian!

@alexthibo1 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing comparison between the models. New rider here, currently dreaming about getting a GS. Seriously looking at recents 1200 (2017.5) and also at 1250 as my second bike, both Adventure, so your video is welcomed. I would had appreciate to hear a little more between cons or issues related to each models/generations. For exemple, I read that 2008-2010 had gaz gage issues, or starter relay problems. I will use that motorcycle for expeditions and reliability is a main concern.

@szeriman13 4 жыл бұрын

i have the 2008 version, without esa. Currently 69000 km without any issue, and yes im also using for tours and sometime into the city.

@jimsnider3971 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! I've been going back and forth with which GS to buy and this is giving me a one-stop resource to go back and compare the models!! Thanks!

@lasseh1576 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, so very useful, thank you! It’s also fun to see how your production quality has improved over the years. We’ll done!

@coachgym 4 жыл бұрын

Great job on this overview.. yes, once you have had the cruise control- you just want it again. I currently own the R 1200 GS WC 2013 - it is super, now with 68.0k on it. I’ve done 1,000 miles in a day traveling to Idaho & Canada from the country of Texas. I had a 2003 K 1200 GT before this bike - it got me hooked on the cruise control & was a great bike - put 80.0k on it but started to get uptight about the servo - jumped into the GS in 2014. I almost got rid of The 2013 R 1200 GS WC because of the stalling at low speeds - very dangerous. I found out it was just too lean a mixture at low RPM’s - installed a device for about $100.00 the makes it a little richer at low RPM’s & the bike has been great. Thanks for your good reviews - good job on the trailer reviews too! I’m looking at a Big Foot or Escape - did you consider those two? Thanks

@mmaaddict78 2 жыл бұрын

The servo brakes ended in 2006. You have them listed into 2007.

@2dogsstottie 2 жыл бұрын

Not bad and well explained overall. I have a 2017 BMW R1200GS Rallye here in OZ (Developed here in OZ for our Fink River Rally by BMW Melbourne) However you seem to have forgotten about in 2013 when they fully upgraded to the 1200cc water cooled engine that they also relocated the shaft drive to the LHS of the bike in an attempt to opposed the centrifugal forces in the engine so on power up or down the bike tends to "rock" much less due to the Boxer engine configuration disadvantage. From the Land of OZ

@tommidahlberg1451 3 жыл бұрын

I actually prefer the feel of the dry clutch :)

@HensonPressureWashingLLC 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! Nice to get all that GS info in under 30 mins!

@Michael-xo8lw 2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes you sound just like Kipp from Napoleon Dynamite and I like to think that the marriage to Lafawnda has really been a success and now here you are giving us encyclopedic motorbike knowledge. Nice.

@stefandenninger920 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your great effort! Very informative! What do you do for a living? You got so many vehicles in your garage! Keep on the good work! 👍

@RamonGomesbrasil 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks for the review. I am considering buying a GSA, and with your help, many questions have been answered. Good winds!!!!

@BigRockMoto 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@nabiha37 Жыл бұрын

All ready have two bikes, but definitely itching for the GSA hence I am taller older guy. One of the best information buying guide. Thanks. 1250 GSA RED with WHITE OR BLACK, I am game. Thanks again. I like the extra weight, better on the freeway. Most GS riders don’t use them off road as much.

@thaumaturgeishere331 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, the Funduro was alright - speaking as a former owner.

@pawelmatyaszek 2 жыл бұрын

Great and informative video as always Ian, keep it up! Not really a BMW rider myself but always a pleasure to watch.

@mastadriver 4 жыл бұрын

I've got a 1250 in June 2019. Over 10.000 miles later I'd say to everyone that's considering getting into GS world, give it a ride, if possible back to back with late 1200 model.

@madcannon3162 4 жыл бұрын

I am looking at purchasing one in a few months. I can afford the new GSA but was browsing for deals on used bikes. This video has been most informative. Thank you.

@miro_s 3 жыл бұрын

Great video thank you. At the end you mention that there are several other adventure bikes as good as the GS. Would you care to mention some? Thanks

@daveo9844 4 жыл бұрын

Great info. I bought my 2013 purely on the basis of it having a wet clutch. I do all my own maintenance and couldn’t put myself through the possibility of having to change a dry clutch…lol.

@sadiesel Ай бұрын

This is a great video, good info! Thanks

@dmttruth9060 4 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thinking of upgrading to a GS from my tiger 800xcx. Only downside to your videos is the amount of adverts. Otherwise, very informative Ian. Thanks 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@cjsjmy007 4 жыл бұрын

About every three minutes an advert appears... bugger

@roadkillbbq686 Жыл бұрын

Liked for the Starbucks blurb 😆. Keep up the great work!

@roadglide 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent commentary. BMW motorcycles are so unique they’re Guggenheim. Their aesthetics are not for everyone as is the case with most Art and where Art begins and ends. The ride characteristics are, you either love them or you do not. It is such a unique ride. For me these engines will change your life. In a good way. Again thanks for your contribution to the motorcycling community. We all benefit. Ride safe and ride often. Peace.

@BigRockMoto 3 жыл бұрын

thanks

@gabrielcocco3134 4 ай бұрын

Great video! Plenty of information. Since you have a great knowledge on these GS’s, can you make one video like this talking about the R1100 and R1150’s?

@svpolarexpress Жыл бұрын

Wow, great summary and overview Ian. Thanks! Most of us have gained more weight than the GS over time!

@satzawesome 2 жыл бұрын

I have watched it and I have to say with crazy used prices and me finding a triple black 1250 .i went ahead and got it. I did not get the gsa as I am never experienced gas availability in 23 yrs of riding and also the bigger gsa size . I am 6 foot 2 with 33 inseam and fit is good. Thanks for the nugget of wishing u waited for a 1250gs

@franciscoburguete9959 3 жыл бұрын

The best one R 1200 GS 2013 / 14 ( old one dry clutch oil cooled )

@user-zc4cd1gx3s 4 жыл бұрын

Very good job👍👏Recently I change my 2005 Gs to a2008 Gs. Your remarks are accurate. Very good video. 👍👏🇬🇷

@badger4361 3 жыл бұрын

Really really good video, watched it in its entirety. Great job.

@BigRockMoto 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@henkmarinus 3 жыл бұрын

Greath video... Thanks and greating from The Netherlands

@Bazza47 4 жыл бұрын

I've had the 2017.5 and now the 1250 and agree it's worth the upgrade if you can afford it. The GSAP seems smother too and I'm finding I'm using it far more than I did before. The Hillstart now releases without you noticing any difference between it being on or off - the initial bang and having to give it more revs than normal that I had to do on the 1200 is no longer there. Not in themselves game changers but nice to have non the less.

@stevewatts5167 3 жыл бұрын

I do wish you would have mentioned the drive shaft issues, I have an 08 that has had no problems but I know they made improvements but not sure what years. Great informative video, thanks

@raywoo1 4 жыл бұрын

A really informative video that nicely summarizes the nuances between the model generations. Could you make a video about the options and trim level packages for the 17.5-2020 bikes?

@hawkslayers1 2 жыл бұрын

always a pleasure to watch your videos thank you for all the great info

@rollingstone3017 3 жыл бұрын

Very useful, thank you! I literally was just shopping for a well used GS. I’ve decided to pass on it. 🥴

@BigRockMoto 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@rsbharley4766 2 жыл бұрын

Another excellent video, thanks for sharing. I think I will be looking for a 1250. Cheers

@parkview113 3 жыл бұрын

very happy with my late 17 gs te exclus + tft bought with 10.5 mi on clock but a big saving & 18 mnths old from a main dealer. I would always buy at a bmw dealership in case of any issues. no regrets. no wish to go to 1250. there will necessarily be refinements. feel I bought at the sweet spot ....

@BigRockMoto 3 жыл бұрын

agree that is the sweet spot! however I rode a 1250 and now I am done for!

@tonygray7197 4 жыл бұрын

Comprehensive video BUT there was a 'transition model' that BMW slipped in during late 2006/07. This model carried the styling of the 2004/5/6 model but adopted some of the changes they were to introduce with the 2008/9 model eg dropped the servo assist brakes, adopted the re-designed centre-stand etc.

@BigRockMoto 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you I did not know that part!

@alftorrisi8795 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Tony I didn’t see this comment but yes they certainly did. I had a 11th month plated 2006 and the service brakes are gone. I was unaware of the centre stand change. I had noticed for a big bike it is rather easy to place on the centre stand compared to say a Tiger 800.

@cclewislee112 Жыл бұрын

So glad to find your video. It helps me a lot to make decision to buy which model of GS.... great work!

@vicpaz77 3 жыл бұрын

This was spot on! Very useful indeed. I am feel better informed and the length of time spent watching your video is chump change compared to the wealth of information you provided. Cheers!

@danielgoodman7881 Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for this video. This info is exactly what I’ve been looking for during my GS search

@robertcooper6910 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. You just saved me hours or research. Very well presented too.

@pieterdejaeghere 4 жыл бұрын

Just bought my first GS last week... let's see if I made the good choice (late 2017 R1200GS LC)

@astrobusa 4 жыл бұрын

Me too. I'm loving mine. I hope your experience is the same.

@rafaeljuca2181 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video! Excellent content and detail level. Thanks for your effort!

@DanFryJr 3 ай бұрын

Informative video! For 2013 dynESA and ride modes were NOT standard. I think you should make that clear in video. Those features ONLY came with the premium package. The base and standard models did not come with those options. Buying used can be confusing enough without "The Complete Buyers Guide" giving incomplete information.

@dalehawkes1698 3 жыл бұрын

Great video I had a 7 gsa loved for 10 years, I didn’t even know they had a wet clutch now I’m thinking of going gs or gsa in 2021 this had helped a lot it would be great if you could do a in-depth difference video on a GS/ GSA 👍👍👍

@jaredneaves7007 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for making this, it has been a big help trying to understand adventure bikes coming from super sports. I would definitely be interested in your version of a view of the market, explaining where ADV bikes came from and comparing the philosophies of the main competitors. I cant choose what to get between Africa twins, 1250GS or KTM''s and there isnt a lot of info about them compared in general.

@bm7760 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting watch. I'm in the process of trying to trade my 1250 backwards to a 1200. The 1250 motor sounds terrible. There's an issue with the left cylinder that seems to have been left for dealerships to sort out with all sorts of haphazard attempts at assuaging owners' concerns. Also the changes to the fueling to meet Euro5 regs have some complaining of detonation and it's just not as simple as changing the map anymore. You can't do that with the 1250. I might look again at the 1250 in a few years but right now I wish I'd gone with the better understood 1200.

@darius-christiandickison9905 4 жыл бұрын

Agree / Disagree Thanks for doing these videos! Owned 2014 R12GS is the best GS for fastest revving and lightest weight - Greatest bike if you can live without some of the newer refinements on late 2017 pluse! Owned 2019 R1250GS HP Very nice pretty bike with noticeable power and torque and yes shiftcam is smoother but there are issues BMW is well aware of ie: 2014 GS 220 miles to a tank consistently and often 240 or more miles, 2017 GS 210 miles to a tank, 2019 1250 sucking fumes at 185 miles - serious change! Also at highway speeds a minor hesitation between some RPM ranges, and the TFT as pretty and good as it is still needs work. I found as much a pain as it was cool. Hopefully by 2021 the third year of production BMW will have it dialed in nicely as they usually do. The best all around year for the Great Boxer GS is the late 2017 model. So good I've had three of them. Nice!

@roadglide 4 жыл бұрын

Darius-Christian Dickison It’s a BMW. Although these bikes are best in class in looks, they are finicky. Like a Harley Davidson. If it were a Japanese or British machine many if not all of these issue would not be an issue.

@chriswildt3101 4 жыл бұрын

I just filled up my 09 r1200gs adventure. The ride computer said distance to empty was 500 miles(!). It quickly changed to 450 or so but still...

@garytakala5028 2 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate this video as I've viewed it several times as I'm considering a change from my streetglide, which I love, to a more versatile BMW. I don't want to spend a lot of time on those gravel roads, but I want that option. Thanks again

@mkoehler222 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. I am one that is interested in buying a GS. You did touch on some things that have me concerned about buying one. The servo brakes are scary. The dry clutch and taking the whole thing apart to replace it is crazy probably a 3k fix. The rear shock problem in recent years. I think it's obvious most bikes including this one has a lot to offer. I just want to make sure there is no crazy expensive problems to incur. So this is some food for thought as you go forward. Love your channel and hope things get straightened out soon. Thanks Mark

@alanluscombe8a553 24 күн бұрын

Yep I own a newer one now but I made the mistake of buying an 06 that looked great for pretty cheap around 3k in 2017. After a month of owning it and only riding three times not very far had to invest in the stupid clutch and cost as much as I paid for the bike

@clivelamb4072 3 жыл бұрын

I had the budget and what was for sale last month a 2007 gsa or a 2009gs. I went for the gs and thanks to your video I know I made the right choice 👍🏼

@adityayitda 4 жыл бұрын

There was a glitch in the matrix 😁 Great video yet again Ian 👍

@chrisgreen8128 2 жыл бұрын

Great review, very informative and I think you covered almost every important aspect when choosing your next machine, I was wondering what is it like to manoeuvre in and out of your garage or pushing it back in and out of tight car parking spaces, as I have to do that twice a day and I haven’t seen anyone mention this yet? But ace review, I just need to take one out and try it physically myself I think.