Salman Rushdie on Magical Realism: True Stories Don't Tell the Whole Truth | Big Think

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The acclaimed author delved deeply into magic realism for his latest book. Here, he describes why this genre continues to thrive.
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SALMAN RUSHDIE:
Salman Rushdie is a British-Indian novelist and writer, author of ten novels including Midnight’s Children (Booker Prize, 1981), Two Years Eight Months and Twenty-Eight Nights, and The Golden House. The publication of his fourth novel "The Satanic Verses" in 1988 led to violent protests in the Muslim world for its depiction of the prophet Mohammad. The Supreme Leader of Iran, Ayatollah Khomeini, issued a death fatwa against Rushdie, which sent him into hiding for nearly a decade. Rushdie weathered countless death threats and many assassination attempts.
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Salman Rushdie: Stories don’t have to be true, you know. That by including elements of the fantastic or elements of fable or mythological elements or fairy tale or just pure make believe, you can actually start getting at the truth in a different way. It’s another door into the truth.
And that’s why I think the thing that is interesting about the phrase magic realism is if when it’s used, people tend only to hear the word magic. So they think it’s just about fantasy. But the word realism is as important and what this kind of writing tries to do is to be grounded in the real, to be grounded in an actual, quite strong vision of the real and then use techniques to express that vision which don’t necessarily have to be realistic.
The thing about magical realism - so called - is that it’s a newish name for a very old thing. And this particular name came into being in Latin America in the late 1950s and was used to describe a group of writers - [Jorges] Borges, [Gabriel] Garcia Marquez, [Mario] Vargas Llosa, Julio Cortazar, Alejo Carpentier and several others who used techniques which diverged from straightforward, naturalistic writing or they used elements of fantasy and dream and included those in the text of the story as if they had the same status as observable facts.
I’ve always been, as a writer from the very beginning, I was interested in this general area of fiction. I started out, you know, as a young person, long before I wrote anything I was very, very interested in science fiction and I read an enormous amount of science fiction in my teens and early 20s. And actually my first novel, Grimus, which was published more or less just over 40 years ago, was really in that area. It wasn’t science fiction, but it was fantasy fiction, you know. Because I think that that form, what might be better called speculative fiction, has always been a very good vehicle for the novel ideas. You know if you have ideas that you want to set in motion and interrogate and argue about, science fiction, fantasy fiction has always done that and always done it very, very well. So I always had that interest. So I mean that interest in that kind of genre fiction combined with my knowledge of Eastern fable and folktale and fairy tale, you know, and all of that went towards turning into the writer that I became.
The acclaimed author delved deeply into magic realism for his latest book. Here, he describes why this genre continues to thrive.

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@ShawnRavenfire
@ShawnRavenfire 8 жыл бұрын
A really good example of this is the movie "Big Fish," where the son keeps wanting to know the truth about his father's life, but his father only talks in fairy tales, and in the end, the son realizes that the fairy tales more accurately show the way his father experienced life than if he'd just given the facts.
@HydrusT
@HydrusT 8 жыл бұрын
+Shawn Ravenfire Mannnnnn I miss that movie, I haven't seen it in eons
@JavierBonillaC
@JavierBonillaC Жыл бұрын
Such a good movie
@ramdularsingh1435
@ramdularsingh1435 2 жыл бұрын
GOD bless Salman Rushdie ! A part of our world today still doesn't understand the great literary genius. Once they too gets him the magnetic writer will win the whole world and all the awards in it......
@StrangeDad
@StrangeDad 8 жыл бұрын
This is why 'The Ocean at the End of the Lane' is so fantastic.
@josearcadio847
@josearcadio847 3 жыл бұрын
Gaiman is a modern day god of storytelling.
@sahaysnehal
@sahaysnehal 6 жыл бұрын
Watched this while reading Midnight's Children. Makes many things clear. The master himself explains the trade, what's cooler than that?
@madgefundi
@madgefundi 8 жыл бұрын
when I see salman rushdie, it reminds me of his good friend, the late christopher hitchens. I miss him. rip
@catherinebastien
@catherinebastien 5 жыл бұрын
I'm reading Grimus, and I'm fascinated by the insights, the expression of things that I can feel or see in dreams or some meditative experiences but that are so difficult to express because they are not so rational. There is a mixed of wisdom and playfulness.
@ramdularsingh1435
@ramdularsingh1435 2 жыл бұрын
Here is a literary genius for all of us !!!..... Give him the Nobel Prize for Literature .....
@hermanrowell3081
@hermanrowell3081 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure any sociologist of religion will ever see any literary prize
@lexilatis
@lexilatis 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, magical realism can be “another door into the truth”. I found this video quite informative. I think it can be a good introductory “companion video” for those who are planning to read Salman Rushdie’s work (Midnight’s children in particular) or who who have already read his books and are seeking to understand (up to a certain extent) his thought process.
@gilgameshe.e2079
@gilgameshe.e2079 8 жыл бұрын
Salman Rushdie's The Satanic Verses was FANTASTIC!
@gilgameshe.e2079
@gilgameshe.e2079 8 жыл бұрын
+Mohi Farahanchi no need for paper-book there's a discover called "eBook" :p I'm in iraq which nearly the same so i read it in free pdf :3
@beback_
@beback_ 3 жыл бұрын
And not offensive at all!
@vins1979
@vins1979 3 жыл бұрын
@@beback_ oh yes, we alway need to talk about how offensive this is, how offensive that is... True literature and true art are supposed to offend us and make us think. And frankly, I find much more 'offensive' people killing other people because of a novel.
@DmGray
@DmGray 8 жыл бұрын
I find it odd that this understanding is lost on many people. When things are set in "reality" they often rely on melodrama to entertain. Science fiction and fantasy allow a writer (and reader) to explore real people in extraordinary circumstances, to entertain ideas *unthinkable* when married to real world context. I find regular fiction mostly dry and boring. I already have a real life with real problems. Why would I want to go live there in my fantasies too?
@beback_
@beback_ 3 жыл бұрын
^ this
@mazadancoseben4818
@mazadancoseben4818 3 жыл бұрын
It can be interesting. Like the webnovel- "The Homeless Millionaire" The first 21 chapters are a bit of an ardous journey But it gets engaging from ther
@Kwayjaye
@Kwayjaye 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it’s proof that exists that we as beings can’t create anything new only recreate or improve!! Everything we know of as beings exist or we wouldn’t know of it!!!
@aakkoin
@aakkoin 8 жыл бұрын
When telling stories, you need to use metaphors. As in "x was like y", "that thing was like this thing", "it was like the skies opened up" etc. And popular science (from Aristotle) tells that metaphors are not science. But it is false. Science uses language to communicate, and language is full of metaphors. Metaphor is like a representation of the actual physical thing, not itself the actual hard reality. So even science is basically communicating through fiction, through metaphorical imagination. Even though science tries to hide its metaphors and represent the actual reality "as it is". That's why imagination is important in understanding reality.
@torahislife
@torahislife 8 жыл бұрын
+Rontheswimmer not to be an even bigger dick, but otherwise known as an "analogy".
@Window4503
@Window4503 3 жыл бұрын
Someone’s been reading their Derrida...
@aakkoin
@aakkoin 3 жыл бұрын
@@Window4503 I was reading Howard Bloom at the time... he talked about how metaphors are not considered science, but scientists still must communicate in terms of metaphors. Admittedly I was quite post-modern at the time :I
@darrenwendroff3441
@darrenwendroff3441 2 жыл бұрын
What you wrote is so incredibly beautiful and insightful, thank you for posting my friend.
@syrushd7384
@syrushd7384 8 жыл бұрын
Tim obrien has a great book on this actually. Well, it's a Vietnam war book but it has this theme in it. The name is "The things they carried"... It is honestly one of my favorite books I've read. Thank you to my English teacher for making me read it lol
@undermoonlightglow
@undermoonlightglow 8 жыл бұрын
+Syrus HD I have a hard back copy of this and have had it for yrs. And haven't read it. I'm a fan of Tim Obrien. "If I Die in a Combat Zone: Box Me Up and Ship Me Home" was among the books about Vietnam I read yrs ago.
@syrushd7384
@syrushd7384 8 жыл бұрын
I have not read that one yet, but I strongly suggest reading The Things They Carried. It is very very interesting. It is one of the few AP level novels I've had to read for school that I just could not put down!
@AlejandraGimenezDF
@AlejandraGimenezDF 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. When was this published?
@KaderKhan-eo9ii
@KaderKhan-eo9ii 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know what is the problem with Muslims, who are against Rushdie, he is a good writer.
@TheLJShow-ys8wr
@TheLJShow-ys8wr 3 жыл бұрын
He criticises their religion.
@KaderKhan-eo9ii
@KaderKhan-eo9ii 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheLJShow-ys8wr there is no problem in criticism. I think they have to well come open debate regarding their religious criticism.
@mazadancoseben4818
@mazadancoseben4818 3 жыл бұрын
Try criticizing Hinduism in India, and people will call you communist, Marxist, Socialist and Anti-national The reactions to the webseries- "Paatallok" is a perfect example of this It didn't even criticize Hinduism. But people still got triggered I swear people are being killed over these things
@paris2993
@paris2993 3 жыл бұрын
@@mazadancoseben4818 why r u lying???? Gosh!!!! 🙆🙆. And for Ur information patallok was part of a smear campaign against Hindus . Criticism is welcome but not intentional smear. And nobody is killing anyone over it. But you can put the links from where u got all this 'enlightened' news. And writing it here is irrelevant . The Hindus didnt burn books or film posters nor called for killing someone. In India the practise of debate is mlleniums old. U have no idea of the country. Visit the country to better understand it(unless u r a fakistani. bcoz then u wl just do what u all always do----smear Hindus).
@gabbar51ngh
@gabbar51ngh 2 жыл бұрын
@@mazadancoseben4818 Hinduism get criticized heavily in india. Meanwhile Muslim countries are still extremely backward & have archaic laws where they chop people to death. Muhammad bin Salman is best example of this. Literally a muslim king who owns mecca & Medina. Yet all these muslims still follow a sham religion which empowers this phony family.
@teresafbrooks
@teresafbrooks 4 жыл бұрын
.... you mean a door into 'one's own truth," perhaps. I agree it's a new name for an ancient form of story telling
@WilliamYang-tk6yd
@WilliamYang-tk6yd 4 ай бұрын
cool video. thanks man!
@spiritualanarchist8162
@spiritualanarchist8162 6 жыл бұрын
Magic realism would be a good description of the current political climate. in the U.S
@josheddings8568
@josheddings8568 7 жыл бұрын
Does he always look high?
@leventetakacs1641
@leventetakacs1641 4 жыл бұрын
He has ptosis, which makes his eyelids droop like that all the time
@AnyaChuri
@AnyaChuri 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, he has a condition ( ptosis). In fact he even underwent a surgery for that; to merely keep his eye lid from disabling his vision... I understand you must have meant this in good humour, but many a time, it isn't fair ...
@practiseyourenglishstepbys7533
@practiseyourenglishstepbys7533 6 жыл бұрын
By using fantasy and make-believe you can get at the truth in different way. Discuss. Examples and explanations would be good. What kind of truth? Isn't a lot of magical realism escapism, fun entertainment, imaginative rambling, and sophisticated word-spinning designed to display cleverness rather than truth-seeking? Just a thought.
@belletamaam
@belletamaam 5 жыл бұрын
You can present things in fantasy that have real world application. Because the reader is reading "fantasy" usual barriers against certain information are down. Ideas thus enter the subconscious. A sideways entering. Some folks are resistant to ideas that will create cognitive dissonance. Great arguments can be presented via fantasy/alien beings/events.
@infinitafenix3153
@infinitafenix3153 3 жыл бұрын
If you read a magical realist novel, you'd hardly think that can be escapism, but a much bigger window to look into reality, to satirize, to be ironic... to be able to reflect on issues with a broader perspective. That's my idea.
@tomm8120
@tomm8120 9 ай бұрын
@@infinitafenix3153 Exactly. It is not escaping reality, rather using the lure of escapism to pull the reader back into the real world. Magical realism makes emphasis on the real rather than the magic. The magic is only a vehicle for very real plot points.
@xapemanx
@xapemanx 8 жыл бұрын
true say
@photogirlnaija
@photogirlnaija 2 жыл бұрын
How far you
@charleslalonde9643
@charleslalonde9643 3 жыл бұрын
I like turtles
@lukebalestieri6155
@lukebalestieri6155 3 жыл бұрын
I like lizard
@AppleOceanus
@AppleOceanus 9 ай бұрын
Such a compelling topic! If it interests you, a like-minded book is worth your while. "Twilight Descent" by Olivia Whitestone
@repairdrive
@repairdrive 7 жыл бұрын
Who is this?
@andyutomo7230
@andyutomo7230 6 жыл бұрын
repairdrive Salman Rushdie, british acclaimed author of many great books such as The Satanic verses
@Kalisayswhat
@Kalisayswhat 6 жыл бұрын
i really cannot with that fucking nose twitch 😂
@cletusjones9411
@cletusjones9411 Жыл бұрын
His nose is about to step off his face, become a man, and walk the streets of New York.
@albinbeast02
@albinbeast02 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not here to learn about magical realism, im here because of gleerups
@AnhTuPhucDerrickHoangCanada
@AnhTuPhucDerrickHoangCanada Жыл бұрын
Pans Labrythn or Mary poppins
@bearvillebear1468
@bearvillebear1468 Жыл бұрын
Keep strong. Dont forget that despite the evil in this world, God is full of justice, mercy and love. Justice said we broke His perfect law - causing the world's previous perfection to be destroyed - and therefore we deserve Hell (like a punishment in any legal system but this is eternal as His perfect law is eternal too). Don't think you fit in that category? Ever done one of these?: lying, stealing - regardless of how small the object EVER, hating others - which is murder in God's perfect law, lusting (plus God sees our entire thought life). Justice says "the soul that sins shall die" - if we break one in thought/word/deed it's as if we're guilty of all of them. Quite simply, living by the law (which is doing everything perfectly) is impossible for sinful humans . The law shows us that 1. We will die in Hell if we fail to follow it and 2. We cannot save ourselves BUT, 3. God's perfect, immovable law points us to Christ, who followed and fulfilled the law in thought, word and deed perfectly in our place. He did what we couldn't and did it on our behalf. He was then sentenced to death on a cross, and took our personal punishment for our sin, paying our penalty (like paying our fine) completely FOR us, and has given us freedom. If we turn from the sins we have committed and repent (pursue the opposite direction of love through Christ) He will, overtime, recreate us into His image through The Holy Spirit which Jesus sends to all who accept Him as their personal Lord and Savior of their life. We cannot purify ourselves, but Christ lived that perfect sinless, pure life and then allotted it to our "account". That's where our righteousness comes from. Not from any good, works that you or I could do. It is not based on the amount of good works we do. God starts the changes, He carries it on, and He completes it in those who let Him. It's about letting Christ in to guide and teach you and obeying Him, again, through His power and instruction). He is our substitute in His life, death and resurrection. He essentially rewrote history in our place so that, if you believe in Him, it will be as if YOU had never sinned if you accept Christ's death as our own in our place. He is in Heaven right now preparing a place for us so that He can take His faithful, believing children home with Him when He returns. He will ressurrect us from death when He returns, giving mercy to those who accept His love, forgiveness, instruction and teachings in their life, and give justice to those who refuse it. He doesn't want ANY of us to go to Hell and die for continuing in evil and rejecting His way to life, thats why He died FOR us. Hes giving EVERYONE a chance, He wants everyone to take the free gift of salvation from Hell. He wants us to be His and begin to follow His life of love and service through His power and abiding (staying) with Him. So long as we keep our hearts near to Christ through His strength, strive to follow His will of perfect love revealed in the Bible, and let Him lead in the midst of (very certain) pitfalls and struggles, we will, in time, win the ultimate victory over sin, pain and DEATH through Christ. Even if you are willing to be made willing, pray for Jesus to come in and He will do what we can't. Give us The Holy Spirit who will guide us in the right way. NOTE: You are NEVER too sinful or messed up that God cannot turn your life around through Jesus. EVER If you have any questions let me know
@ArtDocHound
@ArtDocHound Жыл бұрын
X
@berzerius
@berzerius 8 жыл бұрын
Good content, Shit title.
@NawidN
@NawidN 8 жыл бұрын
+Berzerius My problem with this godforsaken channel. Prioritizing views over getting an important message across.
@fateenahmed659
@fateenahmed659 8 жыл бұрын
Isn't it quite odd that people like salmon Rushdie and that other lady who claimed Islam banned innovation get to be on this platform and excercise their freedom of expression while clearly ignorant on that field (Islam I mean) just goes to show how sided these "big ideas" are
@babywolf4238
@babywolf4238 6 жыл бұрын
No, I don't see why that would be considered odd. Will you please elaborate?
@beback_
@beback_ 3 жыл бұрын
Grow thicker skin. If you really think your beliefs are true, you shouldn't be offended so easily.
@gabbar51ngh
@gabbar51ngh 2 жыл бұрын
Islam is Nothing but terrorist propagating ideology.
@incoher
@incoher 7 жыл бұрын
ahh so magical realism = alternative facts
@Window4503
@Window4503 3 жыл бұрын
Magic realism = facts portrayed alternatively
@incoher
@incoher 3 жыл бұрын
@@writer_racehochdorf sarcasm is a hell of a drug. I hope you're okay, man. KZfaq comment sections make it too easy not to read into a joke and respond with vitriol :/
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