Bikepacking With Your Dog: Dogpacking

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Ever considered taking your dog bikepacking? As challenging as it might sound, dogs love to play just as much as we do, and there are practical ways of traveling by bike with your canine companion. In this video, Neil dives into the world of dogpacking with a primer on the subject and an interview with seasoned dogpacker John Freeman...
Outline:
Intro - 0:00
What is dog packing? - 0:45
Subscribe and Support - 2:53
Interview Intro with John - 3:19
When did you start bikepacking? - 4:26
How do you train your dog? 6:00
Basket or Trailer? - 8:32
How often does the dog walk? - 9:28
Can the ground be too hot for the dog? - 11:57
What does home look like? - 13:24
Where does everything go? - 15:10
How heavy is the rig? - 18:02
How to fly with a dog internationally? 20:56
Does the dog fend off other dogs? - 24:53
Wildlife and livestock 27:43
How to plan for dog injuries? 29:35
rapid questions 31:58
Final pieces of advice for dogpacking 32:48
Meet Mira the dog - 33:48
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@duzer 2 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna steal Mira! ;)

@meyekull 2 жыл бұрын

ayyy it’s the duzer

@ianbarr4716 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Ryan. I saw this video and thought of your videos. That dog is amazing!

@OmniTierra 2 жыл бұрын

You can borrow her whenever you come ride with us 🤗

@jonpoon3896 2 жыл бұрын

You need to find a dog for Mira to hang out with

@nikoulph 2 жыл бұрын

Me I want Mira and the Bicycle :D lol You all 3 are wonderful!

@countingcoup 2 жыл бұрын

Love John and Mira ❤️ found them on Duzer’s channel, 1st in Baja Mexico and 2nd on the Great Divide… John and Mira are the best team 👍🏽

@daleocallaghan6228 2 жыл бұрын

HE STARTED HIS OWN VIDEOS, JUST IN CASE YOUR NOT AWARE. HAVE A GOOD ONE. 😊

@OneByEleven Жыл бұрын

Same! Got to know of them through Ryan's channel. So cool!

@JakeLuke308 2 жыл бұрын

Mira is my favorite KZfaq personality. John's nice too, but Mira makes the internet better.

@avenpace 2 жыл бұрын

John & Mira - great team

@BIKEPACKINGcom 2 жыл бұрын

They really are.

@BEBUSINESSCHANNEL 2 жыл бұрын

I love John and MIRA

@WongJawa 2 жыл бұрын

Mira is the best. Saw John and Ryan travelling together...with Mira.

@kippen64 2 жыл бұрын

Having to go at a slower pace might actually be a bonus.

@JustJake77 2 жыл бұрын

Mira & John... Legends!

@outbackwack368 2 жыл бұрын

John and Mira are AWESOME!!!

@timfarness5136 2 жыл бұрын

Mira is so cool with her goggles.

@alphonzosolorzano5011 2 жыл бұрын

*Doggles

@OmniTierra 2 жыл бұрын

@rexspecks

@CanadianSledDog 2 жыл бұрын

I got into bikepacking for my dog's sake - so that I could keep up with her on the trails. Zora and I spent 60 days dogpacking Vancouver Island, the Sunshine Coast, and Gulf Islands in 2019. She trotted an average top speed of 7 km per hour, 20 km per day, for about 1000 km total and never needed to be carried. If your dog is athletic enough, and you're willing to go her pace, and really listen to her, you don't need a way to carry her. I just think of the bike as a way to carry all of our stuff and keep up with my dog. If anyone reading this is even considering taking their dog on a bikepacking trip, I can't recommend it strongly enough! Just be sure your dog is up to the task you're asking them to do, and monitor their health and energy levels closely because they can't tell you in words when they get a blister or need a break. And keep those pups cool - you can help keep them cool by keeping them wet. Happy trails.

@OmniTierra 2 жыл бұрын

That is addressed in the Bikepacking.com article. We ride many km and at high speeds sometimes. So, for us a way to carry Mira is a must.

@CanadianSledDog 2 жыл бұрын

@@OmniTierra Hi, John! I'm a big fan and somehow didn't know you had this channel, can't wait to check it out! Whether to carry or not to carry Zora has always been the question for me, range vs climbing capability right? Your setup is hands down the best I've seen, combined with Mira's attitude about the basket, she's as happy as Zora in her 4runner. When I first saw that rig I was stricken with bike envy big time! But there's also that part of me that wants to keep my bike light, at least before it's loaded lol. It's kind of a paradox for me.

@kaligrownbudz6200 2 жыл бұрын

Omg!!! It’s John and Mira❤️. Whoo-hoo! Im just waiting for the duzer to chime in on this interview in the comment section soon. I’ve seen these rascals bike packing with Ryan in many of his videos and John seems like such a nice guy that’s down to earth and mira is just too damn adorable. This was awesome. Great job on the interview.

@duzer 2 жыл бұрын

Here I am, chiming in!! Meeting John and Mira randomly in Baja in 2020 was destiny!

@kaligrownbudz6200 2 жыл бұрын

@@duzer The man himself🙏. Always a pleasure watching your travels Ryan. I’ve been following you since the early days when you were in Venezuela on that discovery channel show out of the wild.

@nixternal 2 жыл бұрын

Nice, it's Mira La Perra!

@ianbarr4716 2 жыл бұрын

Neil, I've seen John and Mira on another channel. That dog is UNBELIEVABLE! Thank you so much for this video. Cheers.

@WheelsonaBike 2 жыл бұрын

Mira!!! What a wonderful treat to see Mira (and John) on this channel. Awesome content. I have a 17lbs dog and while I don't typically ride these types of trails, I do like taking Luna on my short touring rides.

@mswarrior932 2 жыл бұрын

Love the dream team!! Looking forward to watching their trip around the world!! The world's most famous dog!! Mira!!!!🚴🐺

@fredricgriffin6070 Жыл бұрын

Mira!!!John’s pretty awesome too:)

@swnorcraft7971 Жыл бұрын

No doubt, Ryan and John's bikepacking together are worthy videos! This was definitely an eye opener for the potential Dog Packer. Thanks for sharing.............

@HoofnIt03 2 жыл бұрын

John and Mira! They are a great team! 💖

@dickflinghammer58 2 жыл бұрын

Bike camping before it was a thing. It just seemed logical but I don't have a dog in my life now but every dog I've been lucky enough to be blessed with was an adventure lover like me. Maybe my adventure cat would be interested in a trip 🙂. I ride a mid-fat all mountain/trail full susser. I have no problems some bemoan not using specialized bikepacking bikes but with my Thule pack and peddle pannier rack on the rear triangle and my awesome homade version of one on the fork I'm happy with my rig. I just got a free sewing machine so I'm making some custom bags for my frame. Can't wait for cooler weather here in Fl for the next trip Cheers

@dickflinghammer58 2 жыл бұрын

I forgot to add a lot of the areas I ride have feral hogs. They can root up a large area and riding through it with a hard tail is just that🤪. Problem is the rack on the rear triangle kinda deadens the suspension action plus I weigh only 155 .

@lennydellavalle3683 Жыл бұрын

took my dog to Germany, Switzerland and Italy in the 90s. it was the best time.

@Volkmannx 2 жыл бұрын

❤️ John!

@lennyharp 2 жыл бұрын

As a former bike mechanic I never changed to more than 8 speed sprocket so that I would not wear out chains so fast.

@aprildntn 2 жыл бұрын

I remember reading about John and Melan and then finding John and Mira and thinking, wow here’s another guy doing the same thing, not realizing they were the same guy. Lol. I’m excited to follow them on their next adventures, and I’m just starting to train my new pup on the bike. Trailer to start I think.

@jameslopez958 Жыл бұрын

John and Mira are Awesome 👍😎. Thanks for sharing this Information Brother 😎

@BIKEPACKINGcom 2 жыл бұрын

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@OmniTierra 2 жыл бұрын

The Bikepacking Journal is terrific!

@adamonthego89 9 ай бұрын

I LOVE THIS! Been wanting to bikepack forever since getting my pup, thanks for sharing Neil!

@gaypreator8547 2 жыл бұрын

Got Stick. Proudly on my vehicle. Happy to see John and Mira getting coverage. Great change of pace for biking. Dogs don’t get in the way - Respect - Love make it worth while.

@grahamkay8711 2 жыл бұрын

I think I saw John and mira in kananakis two weekends ago

@OmniTierra 2 жыл бұрын

Likely you did

@ridewithwoody5808 2 жыл бұрын

This is why I want a dog...

@jkpersonal2721 9 ай бұрын

Amazing human being!

@rogervancleave8670 2 жыл бұрын

Great interview and always good to see John and Mira!

@billoneill6114 2 жыл бұрын

I did an overnighter with my dog on the 63 mile Pine Creek rail trail in PA and I am doing the GAP and C&O with him in September. I got him used being in his trailer by having him sleep in and be in it at home. He's only 24 pounds so I have a lot of room in the trailer for his food and gear in the there too.

@bikesandbeyond618 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Nice to see John and Mira and hear how they do it.

@dontspamkoth 2 жыл бұрын

Did you two organize your shirts before this interview? Very cute.

@ericlakota4400 2 жыл бұрын

I'm listening and I think of Mera with love when he was saying how she was bite was like aww poor Mera .duzer made Mera one of my favorite you tuber just so sweet

@andrewgardner6699 2 жыл бұрын

great looking shirt Neil. killing it!

@felipericketts 2 жыл бұрын

It is going to be great to see John and Mira on the road again! :-)

@chriszimmerman1599 2 жыл бұрын

Mira hype!

@stephendumas 2 жыл бұрын

First saw John and Mira on Duzer’s channel. Love their energy. The ‘stache is looking good, Neil. Keep it up!

@MoyMacGill 2 жыл бұрын

Love that this information is going to be out there. My living situation is now in a way where I’ll be able to get a dog and I love to bike back. With others sharing their experience it will be very helpful.

@zachfletcher6751 2 жыл бұрын

Much love

@edinelsonramirez5656 2 жыл бұрын

"Mira la perra"! I love it!

@compassionsix 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been planning on doing this for some time. After watching this today, I finally bought a Burley COHO trailer for my dog. My best friend is a small dog so I don’t want him jumping from a high basket. Stay tuned for my adventures!

@fuerLutzi 2 жыл бұрын

Burley just did a recall on their ballz QR axle. Might be interestin' for ya. COHO hauler myself.

@sanhestar 2 жыл бұрын

did you completely leave out/forget the cargo bikes? The Riese&Müller Load modells are able to go cross country AND carry dog and load with ease.

@triton189 2 жыл бұрын

I wish but my buddy is 85 pounds and there's no way I can "carry" her and it would be unfair to make her run along on most trips. I do take her backpacking though and love having her along. Great video and info!

@reanimator540 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@clintonliem7561 2 жыл бұрын

Great video.

@johnnykwest7819 2 жыл бұрын

Love how you guys decide to wear the same shirts

@dimllc 2 жыл бұрын

Listening to the dog backpacking adventures by John & Mira was great. Our dog being a hound mix prefers walking & sniffing to being wheeled around, but the dog trailer we got him will be worth it when he gets older…training has begun, muhhahahaaaaaaa (evil laugh). 🤔..however, one of them is wearing their shirt in reverse…just can’t tell which one.

@kasisyphus201 2 жыл бұрын

Great vid! After watching Duzer, John & Mira, I am seriously thinking about investing in Surly Big Dummy and touring... even without a dog, these long tail bikes are da bomb! One thing I would be worried about if I had a rear cart would be cars not seeing it - so low to the ground and drivers really only expect the cyclist and nothing connected behind (I even see this will cars/trucks towing - drivers only expect the first auto). Keep on keepin' on!

@lhommeetsonchientreketrando 10 ай бұрын

Nice vidéo.... I want to begin bikepacking with my dog ... all devices are good

@Nizgoob 6 ай бұрын

Holy crap those were some amazing stories! Really great interview. I think Neil needs to spend a bit less time looking at the notes though, I expected to see more reactions when John talked about a crash that needed stitches and Mira getting chewed up! He's probably seen just as many hard scrapes so it doesn't faze him, hahahaa

@jeansg9670 2 жыл бұрын

Hello I am Jeannette. I have started to travel with a small dog in Turkey over a year. Thanks for making these videos “ how it's possible to bikepacking with your animals”. My question, have you or someone have the experience of riding with your canine body to an countries in Africa?

@olympic-gradelurker Жыл бұрын

I'm getting a dachshund/Yorkie mix puppy in a month and I'm thinking of training her to ride in a basket if she's up to it. I've already switched to a rear rack and micro paniers set up, it wouldn't be much to bolt a basket to the top

@lostways8196 2 жыл бұрын

i cant wait to gowith my doggo. lol just ordered her crate thats gonna sit on the new rack that holds more weight =D go team mira!

@peterpeterson7918 2 жыл бұрын

thanks a lot!

@_MattyG_ 2 жыл бұрын

I feel Like timing is hard. Hard when you are so invested in something like this and your companion ages 2x as fast. I would love to take my dog bikepacking!

@louisstevens9962 2 жыл бұрын

my heros

@riverdog6875 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much John & Mira! I'm an experienced bikepacker and am getting a pup in a week or so, a heeler/aussie mix. I was concerned about getting a dog because I didn't want to stop or limit my training/riding but seeing what you have done is inspiring. I'm probably going to get the Burley CoHo but am wondering about bikes. I don't see anyone dog packing with a double suspension and am wondering why. I have a Fatbike (I live in the Gunnison country so our winters are long) and also a steel and carbon gravel bike. The Fatbike is heavy, of course, but I think it may be the best option. Thoughts? I'd also like to use the steel gravel bike. I guess carbon is out of the question with a trailer. I read that somewhere anyway. Is that accurate? But I haven't seen any dog packing users of gravel bikes. Is there also a reason for that? Any help appreciated. So enjoy your vids. Thank you.

@mariahwalker4477 Жыл бұрын

I have a heeler/border collie cross and I've had mixes of these breeds before. These dogs can run forever! They are also super smart and learn really fast. Mira as a border collie is perfectly suited to this kind of activity.

@mary_114 11 ай бұрын

OMG!! Jon Snow is into biking now!!! 😝

@horusgarcia1 Жыл бұрын

What basket is being used at 8:34? My dog is 30lbs. I believe a basket like in this video is best suited for my puggle. He should be able to lay down and sit-up confidently. Plus, I should be able to leash him so he doesn't jump off, but I prefer not to escape a crash. Finally, what bike is the best fit for this? Should I go rigid or hardtail?

@otelada73 2 жыл бұрын

I have been following John and Mira for more than a year, now I have a dog (80lb), she is big, even so I would like to walk the Camino de Santiago with her. This afternoon I am going to see the car and do calculations.

@mhe8545 2 жыл бұрын

John and Mira! When will we see you on the road again?

@OmniTierra 2 жыл бұрын

We have a video on our channel @omnitierra uploading soon.

@feligato_ 2 жыл бұрын

Dogpacking in a cargo bike should be great too

@OmniTierra 2 жыл бұрын

Yes but not for bikepacking.

@nowayout8773 2 жыл бұрын

@@OmniTierra it seems like mira and you are deep in the back country, so a cargo bike would be a bit fragile. Imo. But for light trails, sure. They seem very heavy, too. I live in Germany in the Black Forest and most cargo bikes are ebikes.

@mooreoutdoor9841 2 жыл бұрын

Did you and John plan to wear the same color shirts for this?

@raize1234 Жыл бұрын

How is it with sleep? Does the dog sleep during riding the bike? I want to start with my dog but wonder if she will get enough sleep, because if we are on the road for 8 hours and she will be awake the whole time then that doesnt sound too healthy but not really sure.

@Lousysuperior 2 жыл бұрын

This makes me want a dog🤤

@judycarrier5460 Жыл бұрын

what kind of harness do you use,also what kind of googles on Mira

@BMad-we6qf 2 жыл бұрын

Might shift back to the trailer when she gets older and can’t jump up that high again. But that will be many years from now. ❤️

@AlexHaglund618 2 ай бұрын

"Maybe they just melt down any time you leave the house..." There are a lot of indications here that your dog-human experience is very similar to my own.

@iynvfy1536 2 жыл бұрын

Need a diy guide on how to build Maras setup

@TheRoyalSh0t 2 жыл бұрын

Catpacking video when?

@THEGEEK2001 5 ай бұрын

Does bikepacking journal deliver to Uk?

@BIKEPACKINGcom 5 ай бұрын

It prints in Germany and ships Worldwide.

@Cycle2life Жыл бұрын

What are the best sleeping mats with a dog? I have a large dog and don’t want him to puncture it…

@curtheciscokid Жыл бұрын

I’ve got some specific mats for my dog to lay on but when she joins me on my oversized double pad I just bring an extra blanket and throw it over top. I did this after she already punctured it once and since then no accidents.

@6ryba6 2 жыл бұрын

The one who gave this video a thumb down was a cat

@compassionsix 2 жыл бұрын

Cat packing 👎🏻

@6ryba6 2 жыл бұрын

@@compassionsix i don't know, cats are pretty cool

@billoneill6114 2 жыл бұрын

Lol. Good one!

@HonedByJones 2 жыл бұрын

Not sure John and Mira had a KZfaq channel when this interview was done? Anywho, it’s here - kzfaq.info

@omare_biketonature 2 жыл бұрын

Mira…Mira…Mira (makes sense in Spanish 😅)

@bikeandbarkswilly6147 2 жыл бұрын

Nice to see more of this kinda “crazy” people with their furry companions! Just like my human & I! Woof! 🦊 @bikeandbarks

@Hermod_Hermit 2 жыл бұрын

I'd like to briefly peek into the psyche of the one that downvoted this video. I am sure it is a scary place.

@christiansaravia7865 Жыл бұрын

I used to have a cat named Mira! Except we pronounced it My-ra! I really want to take my dog bikepacking. Luckily she's only like 8 pounds

@gabbygabs5107 2 жыл бұрын

My dog is almost 11, 30 lbs and blind so she could never run next to the bike (even when she could see … she’s a pug mix and doesn’t believe in running) and it’s my dream to take her dog packing one day.

@nikoulph 2 жыл бұрын

Flying with that Salsa blackborow it should be not that easy I guess... How difficult and expensive is to transport such bicycle on airplane?

@OmniTierra 2 жыл бұрын

It's the same as a regular bike in terms of cost and packing. There are some tips and tricks but it's pretty straightforward

@nikoulph 2 жыл бұрын

@@OmniTierra tnx, I saw you first on Ryan videos, and I fell in love with the bicycle. Than I thought, how would I manage the air travel with this salsa blackborow, and all the stuff I carry... Right now I have a bombtrack beyond with 29x3" and to tell the truth with the new legislation on weight is getting harder to carry the bicycle on the airplane... They started to limit to 21 or 22 kg... The bombtrack with racks is 14kg + the cardboard box 10kg... (I'm already overweight) I wish you did something like Ryan (youtube channel), it would be awesome to follow your and Mira adventures. Tnx for the info

@nikoulph 2 жыл бұрын

@@OmniTierra Sorry for the youtube comment did not see that you already have a channel! There you go a new sub ;)

@OmniTierra 2 жыл бұрын

@@nikoulph Well @duzer is so big he has spin-off channels. @omnitierra will have regular videos as we ride around the world. It will be different from Duzer but we hope that you find something to enjoy.

@nikoulph 2 жыл бұрын

@@OmniTierra definitely ❤️

@Mushroomkiller_ Жыл бұрын

Johns channel?

@karenlewkowitz5858 Жыл бұрын

More bike pics and where the dog rides

@po311737 2 жыл бұрын

I miss Mira

@abdullutfi7748 2 жыл бұрын

16:43 nice googles

@mrljgibson 2 жыл бұрын

Surely with the right dog and harness they will help pull you up the hills and get a lift on the way down. 🤣

@danielroberts2888 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like I’ve found my tribe.

@ericlakota4400 2 жыл бұрын

Oooooo I just saw Mera an a documentary her and this man where riding the devide she was so sweet the man he was riding with cryed saying good buy

@tandago7281 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting. I wonder why you don't use a front basket for the dog, that way both you and the dog would have extra interaction (and dog would have a better view)... wouldn't that work?

@OmniTierra 2 жыл бұрын

For a smaller dog that would work fine. At 40# Mira would effect the control of the bike.

@fernandamartins1668 2 жыл бұрын

First tou need a dog 😄😄😄😄😄😄😀

@Outsideville 2 жыл бұрын

I asked my 13 year old dog if he wanted to try bike packing with me. He was so offended, he wouldn't even respond.

@ericlakota6512 2 жыл бұрын

Its funny i had a short hair chuaha and he went every where i went i would sip tie milk crate on front on bike at the time i dident think much of it because he went evey where i went kyaking he would sit on bow of the boat or conoe any where i went he sat on the dash of are 2000 jeep grand cherokee he would screem bloody merder if i left him home

@87solarsky 2 жыл бұрын

I'd like to bikepack with a Kangaroo.

@headdeptofeyerolling7167 Жыл бұрын

State-side Amish don’t always/often/ever vaccinate dogs so be cautious in area where these communities exist too.

@Gulgonful 2 жыл бұрын

Man… call it an unpopular opinion, but I don’t think dogs belong on back country adventures unless it’s their trained job (sled dog etc) I see so many folks BC skiing, camping, etc on back country trips… I just can’t get behind it. Maybe it’s just not for me and my dog, I just don’t think I could handle the worst case scenario if my buddy was with me too. Planning for the worst is part of BC traveling.

@willek1335 2 жыл бұрын

My dog loves to go camping. She goes absolutely wild with lively excitement. Jumps and runs around like she's on cocaine. xD Have standard procedures in check, and take a step at a time.

@CanadianSledDog 2 жыл бұрын

Well, it's true that house pets don't belong in the backcountry and it's not responsible to drag them along, but working breeds like Mira and my sled dog Zora will never be satisfied with a comfortable city life, they literally live for adventure. Each individual is responsible for determining if their dog belongs in the backcountry, and preparing for emergencies.