Thanks ever so much Steve🙏 - that’s extremely kind of you 💯. Good choice on the Atom - I still love my Gen 1 and am about to upgrade to the Atom V2 shortly . Good to connect with a cyclist who values strength training - definitely it’s accretive to overall health and power on the bike - plus is an amazing way to mix things up! 👍💯

Hi Lee - thanks for reaching out. I think getting back into cycling will be the perfect way to get you back into good health. 2.5years on I still love my WattBike - and it’s been a life changing health and fitness investment for me: through gradually building up the distance cycled and also the intensity and being consistent in the eating (not denying myself anything - but being mindful ) I went from 74kg to 64kg whilst having fun and enjoying the process . Check out some of my training vids - and my recent fat loss series - and you’ll see what I do to stay in shape . If you like the content please subscribe 👍 and best of luck with your fitness journey - great decision to reinvest in your health 🍀

Cheers Grim! And 100% - the polarised training has enabled the W/kg to build up due to higher power and also 5kg less body weight since that was filmed

Grim Reaper and presentation skills 👍👍👍👌 Who is this person doing a Phill Lovett impression. 🧡

Thanks so much for reaching out Jim! And for sure Peleton is expensive - but the product is excellent 👌 I too prefer the WattBike and Zwift combination - because its more applicable to what I do on the bike in real life. The Wahoo Smart trainer is excellent - and I know many people who really love theirs (plus the service is great too!). Enjoy your new purchase - will make your winter training even more effective 💯 Thanks for your support 🙏

My pleasure Power Bastion - both great products 👌

Thanks ever so much Richard 🙏 - that’s hugely appreciated 👍. Which one are you going for?

@@BikeRacingWithoutMercyThe Wattbike would be the best for me. Thanks again for your superb review. You obviously have a talent for this, manufacturers should take note.

Nice one Richard - I’ve absolutely loved my WattBike - and I’m sure you’ll get huge enjoyment and fitness progression out of yours! And thanks ever so much for your kind words! 🙏

Thanks iNature 🙏 - I bought it 2.5 years ago, and still love it. I definitely recommend, and understand the generation 2 variant is even better. If you like indoor cycling and general training for health and fitness I’d be super grateful if you’d subscribe ! 👍

@@BikeRacingWithoutMercy Cheers brother. They're saying lead time on the atom next gen can be as fast as 4 weeks at the moment, not too bad. Subbed 👍

Nice work Sir Moose! You'll love the Atom and Zwift - and thanks for your kind support!

@@BikeRacingWithoutMercy I couldn't wait 4 months for the Atom...so bought a Kickr Bike! Should be ready for Zwift this weekend :)

Sir Moose Gaming amazing - once you’ve had it a few weeks, I’d really appreciate it if you’d let me know what you think about it. Looks really good - but is £3000 I think?

@@BikeRacingWithoutMercy yes of course, going to try my first ride this Saturday hopefully, I'm not in great cycling shape >.

@@BikeRacingWithoutMercy well after the first ride I'm very impressed albeit a bit sore. Feels very very good, the gear shifting is AMAZING and the automatic gradient feature is fantastic also. It was £2999 agh!

Hi GM - and thanks for the feedback 🙏. I agree with all your points. The Peleton is amazing if you like a spin class - but otherwise is not versatile and nor is it a smart bike. Your wife may be able to link the Atom to the Peleton App - and then it should be a case of your wife paying the monthly subscription and joining the training session of her choice and manually changing the power on the Atom as instructed by the Peleton Coaches (noting you have to change the power manually on the Peleton bike also). I think she would enjoy some of group training sessions on Zwift which are tailored to her FTP. Especially the ones with shorter punchier intervals. Hope thy is helps 👌. And please do subscribe if you haven’t already 🙏

@@BikeRacingWithoutMercy we've recently built a device which 'converts' your Peloton bike into a SMART bike and thus we can now bring the world of Zwift to your Peloton bike. We'll be launching November 2020. instagram.com/p/CGa4IBvp05M/?

Jag S my pleasure Jag - and since this comparison the WattBike has been upgraded a bit, so it will be even better. I continue to love mine 👌. But if you are more into the spin classes, I don’t know anyone who is not happy with their Peleton 👍

@@BikeRacingWithoutMercy Think i'll go for the Wattbike - how loud is it compared to say other bikes? quite hard to tell by the videos, thanks for replying!

Jag S i really hope you enjoy it as much as me 💯. I think it’s quieter than the Tackx and Wahoo - and doesn’t give my neighbours any issues (I live in an apartment) 👍

@@BikeRacingWithoutMercy Thank you! i've subscribed, really enjoy your videos keep them up! :)

@@BikeRacingWithoutMercy Hi, May I ask how louder the Watt than Peloton?

Thanks NTH, my pleasure !

Really glad to have helped - hope you enjoy whichever bike you select! The fitness improvements from both can be massive with a consistent training schedule . Please do subscribe if you like this kind of content

Joe Jackson pleasure Joe - and thanks 🙏👍. Hope you enjoy your purchase !

Thanks Ross🙏🙏. I recently rode the Peleton again a few times whilst holidaying in Miami . I really loved it . If you want the fitness to translate to outside, I’d still say Zwift and the WattBike Atom are best, because the resistance changes as the terrain goes up and down. And in Zwift you can adjust the trainer difficulty to replicate an easier gearing and keep a higher cadence on the steep gradients - to replicate the mountain bike

It’s been incredible Wakey - and I’m going to buy the Gen 2 in the early Autumn. I guess the price has gone up due to the shortage of chips and higher cost of materials . 👍

@@BikeRacingWithoutMercy yes I’ll get one.

Thanks Tim - really please this was useful 🙏 I’m still a big advocate of the Atom 👌 Hope you enjoy your purchase👍

Chris Sanders thanks for your perspective Chris - and 100% I agree Peleton is an amazing product. I really enjoyed my workout - it was super interactive and absorbing, and I think it hard to beat the spin classes! I think the points you make about lack of versatility are the ones that make me favour the WattBike - but if you and your wife prefer the sprint classes (which are incredible - and some of the extremely tough!) then I think it’s hard to beat a Peleton 👍

Bike Racing Without Mercy I think Peloton prob ticks the boxes of a family bike whereas Wattbike more favours cyclists but both good and will keep you fit!

Matt Freeman 😂 cheers Matt - the aircon was on full blast also! Really enjoyed the workout on that Peleton 👌

Hi Andy - fully agreed with your rationale and conclusion 💯. And also hope your knee improves . I’ve not yet run the Hub and Zwift together - I’d guess it’s possible .

no it is now possible with the latest beta firmware.@@BikeRacingWithoutMercy

It’s brilliant! Main Adjustments are so quick. The lag is fixed on the new version of the Wattbike once you learn how to ride smoothly and keep cadence steady. Even on the old version you can see from Phil’s videos it works fine.

BK CheZ 100% - the WattBike + Zwift is for my money the most convenient way to train, especially if you have a busy working week! 👍🙏

Dan G - it’s a pleasure Dan. Many thanks for watching the channel 🙏

Hi Dan - so glad this was useful! I do love the bike ! It was a tune put together by IGL who did all the original edits and got me up and running !

My pleasure, Krystal 🙏. I think it may be possible to run the Peleton App on the WattBike - but I have not done this myself. The Peleton bike is very much a spin class style bike, with a torque control which you manually turn to change the resistance - this means no lag as you change up the resistance to go harder. However it is not a smart bike, and won’t work or be very good on Zwift etc, because the resistance wont change automatically as the gradient changes. The WattBike is a smart bike, and more versatile - but it is not as good for a spin class. So if your preference is spin, I’d go with the Peleton. You can certainly see your power and cadence on the Peleton App with their bike.

@@BikeRacingWithoutMercy Thank you for the quick response! Currently having a debate with my husband of Peloton versus WattBike. He'd prefer the cycling and more flexible and customizable "fit" features of the WattBike, while I prefer the Peloton classes. Wondering to what extent the Peloton app works well with the WattBike, and if we may have a compromise here! :)

Hi Kristal - I’ve not tried it. But if people confirm it will work with the WattBike, then you can have a good spin class on the Atom. It’s just that you will change gears electronically vs using the torque nob on the Peleton Bike 👍

Apologies for the delay in my reply, Nick. I only just saw your comment. Answer is no. The WattBike Hub data is proprietary and the Peleton bike won’t be able to pick it up. The Wattbike has a power meter that measures the power and pedalling stroke for the left and right individually. I think the Peleton is a great product - but its not a smart bike - and is much more of a spin class bike, with an amazing program of live spin classes (and pre recorded). It would not be ideal for Zwift - because it doesn’t have gears - and relies on a torque knob to change resistance.

Hi Sid - thanks ever so much, I hugely appreciate your encouragement 🙏. It’s actually pretty good for the noise - I live in a flat, and get no complaints. You can hear it in a different room in the flat - but much of the noise in the videos is the fan to cool me 👍

HKR Golf my personal preference is the Atom and Zwift. Because it’s got much greater crossover to riding outdoors, and the community on Zwift is cool. Also the Atom is compatible with nearly all other training apps - and has its own free Hubb App (which can help newbies like us build good / efficient pedalling technique - which is key). So I feel the Atom’s got more longevity. However if you love spin classes and are prepared to pay the £49 per month subscription - Peleton is sensational. Both will build your fitness 🤞. The thing about running is that I’ve found it harder on my joints and recover as I got older. And that in turn impedes progression. Whereas with a solid program on the cycling - you can have nice low intensity recover rides to build base fitness and burn a little body fat. And then have 2-3 hard interval sessions per week to really build your power and fitness. I’ve loved the switch to cycling - life changing 👌

Bike Racing Without Mercy thank you. That was where I’d got to also. But spin could be fun so I’m wondering if I could use the peloton app with the atom

Thank you great video I’m looking at getting the atom to run Zwift

Danny lloyd cheers Danny, and welcome to the community! You’ll have a lot of fun and fitness gains 💯 If you could subscribe to the channel that would be super helpful also. Let me know how you get on 🍀

Mike Hunt agreed - Peleton is an incredible spin class. But the WattBike plus Zwift is more versatile, and is the one to go for if you want to be a better cyclist 👍

Thanks Matthew 🙏 - really pleased you enjoyed it 👍. Which bike did you decide to get?

Hugely appreciated 🙏 - the WattBike is excellent as a training tool for sports. A lot of Rugby Teams use the WattBike to develop power and strength through the lower torso. WattBike was developed for the British Cycling Team initially, and is popular in gyms and team training facilities. But then WattBike released the Atom as a smart bike for use in the home. I love mine and recommend. I don’t know much about the Nucleus though ! Check out a few of my vids, and you’ll soon get an idea for how it works. If you like what you see please do subscribe 🙏

@@BikeRacingWithoutMercy I get the Atom is for home use, size and especially the price.The Nucleus is more for gyms and clubs where it is used by many users. I was wondering if think the Atom would suit me trying to work on improving performance. I think it looks incredibly smart. Thanks again, I can’t wait to see more content, I have followed you already!

@@DantetheHell 100% - the Atom will be perfect for improving your fitness and power. It’s extremely accurate all the way up to 2000W - which is huuuge power. So you can train to get good at endurance through 1hour rides through interval training or sprint training. My own performance has improved dramatically since I got one just over 2yrs ago👍. Thanks for subscribing 🙏

Will thanks Will - hugely appreciated 👍. I’ve not ridden the Kickr - it looks amazing and change pitch as the gradient goes up and down. Plus it can replicate your exact bike set up and gear ratios. But at c£3000 that’s a lot. Because I love the WattBike I’ll stick with it. But if I ever look for a replacement I’ll definately take a proper look at the Kickr . Thanks for watching this one 👍

Hi Frandy. I understand that you can now subscribe to the Peleton App and link it to other smart bikes (Peleton have also just released their own smart bike where you can manually change the resistance - or the resistance and required power is controlled by the instructor👍

Sorry for the delay in my reply, Theodore - and for sure I 100% agree. Peloton is an incredible spin class and experience, but the bike and format are way way less versatile and immersive than the Atom and Zwift or any of the other training apps

@@BikeRacingWithoutMercy Perfectly stated. I am going to get the Stages SB once it's available - I will mod the V2 Peloton bike I have into something to use for Zwift in addition to classes and then sell it. My support experience with Peloton has been abysmal - they had to compensate me quite a bit - 2 years extra warranty - and 7 months of membership free during my ownership. I went through 5 bikes. I am on bike #6. Just replace the drivetrain after 5K miles - replaced seat, and they gave me a new touchpad current to the V2 Bike. They made V2 cheaper so they could roll out fast and gain market share. It's really sad - because they don't pay attention to the details that truly matter in fitness. Not a fan of John Dorsey - they need better leaders and need to dig deep in my opinion - my experiences will find their way into the DNA of everyone else - I can't be the only one who went through it. I give them credit for coming back with compensation but I want stuff that works and I want it to work a long time. I want that immersion you discussed above. I can go all day on this. I think I have 15K miles ridden since ownership.

@@theodoreboosalis I have a Peloton, and would love to mod for swift, how are you doing it?

Colin Fell hugely appreciate the feedback. Happy 2020

Hi Sean - on Zwift, when you are in the training, you can bring up the menu to change camera, or U turn and write a message. And in the training mode, the same blue and white bar will let you turn off ERG mode 👍

Joanna JP hi Joanna. I find that the gears switch up and down quite efficiently. Sometimes the gear number on Zwift flickers between the gear I’m in and gear 4. But that’s just a Zwift glitch. Could you explain more what you are experiencing ?

Cheers Niall - it’s great for longer intervals 5mins or more. But there is a small 5-7sec lag for the resistance to change, so I don’t use it for shorter intervals. I think the gen 2 is better than my gen 1 in this regard

Michael cheers Michael - much appreciated. It’s a GMT 👌

Hi Slade - thanks so much 🙏. Yes the Atom is a smart bike, so when it links up to an App like Zwift, then if the gradient of the terrain changes, the resistance automatically changes to simulate the terrain (ie get harder if a hill / climb). Or if using a training App like Sufferfest (or the Zwift training) the bike has ERG mode, to automatically make the resistance harder when the required power for the interval increases 👍

@@BikeRacingWithoutMercy legend thank you so much. Gotcha. Re Nucleus do you reckon I will still be able to do spinning or just ride as a normal spin bike but with the addition of work power and endurance?

Absolute pleasure👍 I’m afraid I don’t know anything about the Nucleus. If all you need is a normal spin bike with a manual torque controller - then you’ll be able to get a cheaper bike than the Atom. But the Atom will give you a great workout and spin, plus open up the world of Zwift and other training Aps which require a smart bike 👍

Cheers Scott!

Hi Adolfo - that should be possible - one via ANT+ and the other blue tooth or WiFi - but I’ve not tried it 👍

I’ve not tried the Nucleus James - but still love my Atom 2.5years into ownership 👍

WattBike is perfect for getting a better L:R balance and PES (as is riding on the rollers I have since discovered ! )👍

Nice Scott - I’ve not met anyone who owns it. What do you love about it ? 🙏

@@BikeRacingWithoutMercy Solid, sturdy (fans are a bit fragile), and the road feel simulation is great. I understand not everyone may want this in a stationary bike though. I have friends with Peloton and its an expensive ordinary stationary bike with a $200 led tv screen connected to a single, proprietary set of workouts. For me, just not as enjoyable, butI never got into spin classes. Anyway, just my opinion. I’m looking forward to see what Gen 2 of the top smart bikes look like. Thanks for the thoughtful vid.

ironman tooltime 😂😂yes - very expensive subscription! I think Zwift and the WattBike is much better value for money and way more versatile. Peleton is amazing if you love spin classes 👌

@@BikeRacingWithoutMercy yea totally agree, though a tacx neo probably better for me since I don't have the spare room. This lockdown has me seriously considering cancelling my gym membership in favour of a smart trainer, once they're back in stock! Have been using a fluid 2 since 2014. Nice job BTW on your progression, very thorough. Was wondering if you had background in other sports since you quickly ramped to 280w from 220?

ironman tooltime - yes the Wahoo or Tacx are well regarded 👌. And I do think the Zwift membership is extremely versatile/ social / fun / demanding etc. Early on this year I dropped a video shot in Miami, where I chatted my bodybuilding history. Not exactly preparation for high intensity cardio - but I think the focus on strength training and nutrition plus recovery helped me here. And in the vid How I My FTP, you can see I focussed in the early days a lot on shorter max intense efforts (3mins and max 20mins) - which was informed by my gym bunny mentality. And I believe that the intensity early days was a big help👌

@@BikeRacingWithoutMercy ok cheers I get u, hence also the well controlled body weight. Will check out the miami vid. Good luck with ur racing 👍

Not seen that one Ricardo - I’ll keep an eye open for it

Impressive physique!

Ru Re Thanks Ru Re - thats pretty cool. I wasn’t aware of that option. Makes it an easier decision to buy the Wattbike. Much more versatile 😀

@@BikeRacingWithoutMercy the peloton app also has off the bike exercises like yoga, meditation, etc. If i get the peloton treadmill i will have access to tread on demand and live classes plus bootcamp included at no extra cost with my peloton bike subscription.

@@rubenregal4849 much prefer sufferfest and much cheaper at $95 for the year

@@sportschoice sufferfest doesn't come with off the bike workouts like yoga, bootcamp, weights, meditation etc

@@rubenregal4849 The peloton app has gone down to 12.99

I do tend to go max effort Gerry - and in reality whether Zwift and the Atom or Peleton - there is group rides / training / races or for Peleton, spin classes to suit the needs of most people. Please don’t be put off by my review - because I genuinely believe indoor cycling is incredible for health and also mental well-being 👍

@@BikeRacingWithoutMercy i guess your right.....prob now is which bike to get?🤔😄😄

Amazing - so glad I didn’t put you off Gerry 💯 If you like spin classes - Peleton every time. If you like the idea of group rides / races at all levels of ability and the fitness translating to road cycling outdoors then WattBike & Zwift

chivers67 Thanks so much 🙏👍. It was a hotel gym for the Peleton Bike - so there was aircon, nut no fan 🤪. Would be super cool if you could subscribe to the channel if you like the indoor and outdoor cycling content - load more relating to training and building fitness & health 👍

Ariel Glaze cheers 👍🙏 I’ll check out Kai Man Wong. Thanks for watching 😊

I too very much prefer Zwift - but Peleton is great if you want a spin class without going to the gym 👍

Thanks ever so much Brian 🙏 And happy new year ! I have the Atom 1 - and there is a small lag at times between the gear changing and the resistance changing - but much of the time this isn’t noticeable. I do however find that when the virtual terrain is rolling and the gradient is changing a lot then the lag can become a bit more of an issue (resistance still rising as you go over the brow causing you to change down too many gears). But I have loved it - and understand that the Gen 2 Atom has resolved this - and am likely to upgrade to it 👍

@@BikeRacingWithoutMercy thanks for the reply that's very helpful. I'm going to start saving!