setting suspension sag

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13 жыл бұрын

Robert Taylor, Öhlins suspension guru from Crown Kiwi Technical shows us how to set suspension sag on track day and road bikes.

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@booger65man
@booger65man 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Finally someone that actually shares the information instead of hinting at it like someone else on KZfaq we all know.
@koma7252
@koma7252 2 жыл бұрын
moss?
@kevinhunt8863
@kevinhunt8863 2 жыл бұрын
@@koma7252 that’s who comes to mind for me
@ropa3905
@ropa3905 Жыл бұрын
God damnit Dave Moss, be like this guy
@cguzman3685
@cguzman3685 10 ай бұрын
I knew the answer before clicking on the comment 😁
@garymanning8920
@garymanning8920 3 жыл бұрын
Great narration , no music, talks slow and precise. Like my Calculus teachers. Precision speaking. Great site I'm subscribed.
@600k4
@600k4 13 жыл бұрын
very nice Robert. Always a pleasure seeing you work your magic
@mozzmann
@mozzmann 11 жыл бұрын
Exactly how it should be done, settle and then snugged up the fork. There is a wealth of tuning advice in this short clip and I am glad he mentioned the spring rate and the fact that you MUST change the springs to suit the rider weight AND riding style. For instance I run my tires at the low end pressure recommendation which means my springs and damping are quite different to someone running tires much harder. Rider weight has a huge effect on this too as he said.
@alimages
@alimages 8 жыл бұрын
Best suspension advice video on KZfaq. Just set my 04 zx10 using these sag recommendations and it was perfect on recent track day. 29 mm of static and 41mm with rider. Bike felt much better. I ended up using almost all my available fork travel (used zip tie to check). Bike felt like it turned much better and more importantly held the line which it hasn't done before(used to drift wide when getting back on the throttle). I had the front set too high in its travel before which meant the bikes geometry was all wrong. Don't make the mistake of having too much front preload if you aren't already bottoming the forks all the time , it just slows the bikes ability to turn.
@Oilyhands749
@Oilyhands749 2 жыл бұрын
Keep coming back to this time and time again, Perfectly easy to follow instructions Once again thank you
@bravo9890
@bravo9890 3 жыл бұрын
Wow I've been on KZfaq for an hour now and a couple of your videos finally made it click for me. Good work very understandable
@dirtyvfr
@dirtyvfr 12 жыл бұрын
superb, now i have taken umbrage with a few people who have changed my wheels about the way they sequence tightening the front wheel, and also the rear wheel, monkey see monkey do, without understanding what they are doing. Anyway i've just undone the front wheel and redid everything but bounced the front end to settle it (as opposed to using the front brake) and the front end is moving a lot better and smoother, with minimal input. this is a must watch video.
@chuckbelow337
@chuckbelow337 2 жыл бұрын
After tightening the pinch bolts, tie the front brake closed, then loosen and retorque the caliper bolts. This ensures realignment of the pads to the rotors. Always mark your pads to be able to return them to where they came from. Elevate the wheel and check for drag by spinning. Thanks
@ArturK1M
@ArturK1M 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys. Really appreciated!
@Oilyhands749
@Oilyhands749 8 ай бұрын
I’ve just watched this again!!! Thank you
@steven-vn9ui
@steven-vn9ui 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliantly simple. Thanks a bunch
@slipngrip
@slipngrip 9 ай бұрын
Other sag tutorials on YT: You'll need a bike lift which most of you don't even have at home This: *Bring two friends*
@Oilyhands749
@Oilyhands749 3 жыл бұрын
Great clear spoken advice thank you
@CaliWhiteBoi
@CaliWhiteBoi 11 жыл бұрын
I got an 00 R6 an my forks are the other way so are the measurements the same?
@Goffens
@Goffens 10 жыл бұрын
I want to know where the rebound and compression klicker is supposed to be when you messure sag. Is it suppose to be in the stock 12 clicks out "for example" or is it supposed to be all the way out so it dosent interfer whit the sag messurment!?
@FreddyG687
@FreddyG687 6 жыл бұрын
If the bike needs to Be lowered in order to accommodate the riders height . What would be the best way to go about it ? Lowering links or lowering the rear coil over under the seat?
@michor10
@michor10 7 жыл бұрын
Escellent video. Thank you kind sirs!
@sarunassurvila7857
@sarunassurvila7857 6 жыл бұрын
6:29 the main nut has to be tightened at the very end after tightening the clamps, right?
@Itzalwys1420
@Itzalwys1420 6 жыл бұрын
I have a question about the front forks when installing tires.... In the video you say after jouncing the bike to tighten the "right" side 2 allen bolts.... What about the elft hand side? When should those get tightened or would the left side stay slightly loose until the right aide is tight??? Thanks in advance Greg
@onewaywolf3530
@onewaywolf3530 5 жыл бұрын
After you slide the axle back in with wheel in place you then tighten the left side bolts up to correct torque spec. Next, you press down on the bars a few times to ensure forks goes into proper alignment. Once aligned, you then tighten the right side bolts up to correct torque spec. Job done.
@gumonthepants
@gumonthepants 2 ай бұрын
8:43 OMG, buyer's remorse! I am the one who weighs only 61 kg! I came to this video after a few hours of frustration having been unable to achieve the 35-45mm difference recommended on my new Bitubo shock for my Vespa Sprint 150S.
@itr835
@itr835 12 жыл бұрын
very helpful and very detailed
@MrScracha
@MrScracha 13 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert, your funny accent is much easier to understand online :-) Didn't know about re-aligning the forks until I watched this.
@ProjectCarTV
@ProjectCarTV 13 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! ProjectCarTV
@brucef2174
@brucef2174 11 ай бұрын
What static sag settings should you be aiming for suspension with a top out srping?
@Mr.Hanma_
@Mr.Hanma_ 6 жыл бұрын
That sneak diss at 2:55 😂😂😂
@whoogie
@whoogie 13 жыл бұрын
fantastic
@truthseeker8483
@truthseeker8483 5 жыл бұрын
R Sex hehe Wouldn't the suspension sag from rider weight vary according to how much total travel there is as well? I would have thought it would be a certain percentage of total travel...
@Automan9
@Automan9 5 ай бұрын
I fucking love this guy on all his videos.
@61XAA
@61XAA 12 жыл бұрын
Ok I understand how to measure it, but the video is called "setting suspension sag", so now what? What's the difference between too much and too little?
@Daniel-dj7fh
@Daniel-dj7fh Жыл бұрын
if i have too much sag do i have to increase or decrease preload?
@myfaceisonfire1
@myfaceisonfire1 10 жыл бұрын
love how yamaha bikes look and perform, Is there any way to see what modifications where made to this r6?
@benbetts7182
@benbetts7182 10 жыл бұрын
Where should the preload, compression & rebound be set before measuring the sag?
@tariq4851
@tariq4851 6 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I am wrong, but I reckon it should be set to the standard settings as specified on the manual and from there on based on rider requirements adjust rebound and damping.
@atypical_moto
@atypical_moto 4 жыл бұрын
Rebound and compression doesn't effect sag. They effect how fast the shock can move up or down. Adjust preload to achieve desired sag. Your baseline is with the rear tire off the ground so preload won't effect you establishing that number.
@effinurmother
@effinurmother 12 жыл бұрын
How do i get the tail end to look like it's pointing up?
@jameswill9323
@jameswill9323 5 жыл бұрын
Heavy front brake
@jogo8502
@jogo8502 6 жыл бұрын
If you adjust the static sag you autmatically adjust the rider sag ?
@dst-a-nen
@dst-a-nen 5 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. If your measurements with rider sag are within limits than it is OK. If your rider sag is out of the limits you have to change the spring as he said.
@The_Touring_Jedi
@The_Touring_Jedi 4 жыл бұрын
@@dst-a-nen On my touring bike I have static 380mm when on its own weight 400... with me on the top is 420mm, should I be reading 430mm? That means that the preload is little bit too high for static and dynamic? Am I right? Pozdrav
@Apokolohypnotis
@Apokolohypnotis 4 жыл бұрын
I don't really understand - if the static sag should be "between 25 and 10 mm" how come the rider sag can be "between 24 and 27 mm"?
@The_Touring_Jedi
@The_Touring_Jedi 4 жыл бұрын
Lets say you have with no rider suspension drops on it's own weight 30mm measured . When you sit it goes 24mm down more with rider. Static and dynamic= Bike weight- Bike weight with rider. Got that?
@zoomjoo
@zoomjoo 7 жыл бұрын
Are these measurements taken with a warmed up bike?
@gggromay
@gggromay 8 жыл бұрын
30mm of static sag on the forks, + 10 to 15mm more with the rider, that means 45mm of sag... Its confusing because every other publication talks of up to 35mm of sag for street ride, and 10mm is a big difference.... Is he correct or did he make a mistake? He never actually mentions the total sag we are looking for on the forks
@Concordeagle
@Concordeagle 7 жыл бұрын
I just bought a set of 2017 Ohlins FGRT forks and the manual calls for front static sag of 15-30mm and 35-50mm of sag WITH rider. Seems like newer forks have wider range than previous models.
@650hpreventon
@650hpreventon 5 жыл бұрын
For street ,rider with full gear. 30mm-35. On track 25mm -30mm. Rebound should bounce back right away. No bouncing around. That what I follow on my bike.
@Candesce
@Candesce 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah... I have a GSXR 1000 and I'm 50kg. Guess I'm booking my bike in at a local suspension shop, hopefully it's not too pricey.
@Candesce
@Candesce 8 жыл бұрын
***** lol, 1.63m myself.
@joonbora7031
@joonbora7031 6 жыл бұрын
Karina how u manage such a big bike in traffic?
@TheIndustrialsound
@TheIndustrialsound 9 жыл бұрын
I have a 2005 sv 650 , my weight is 68 kg. What spring package could you recommend for daily riding and country riding.
@kidr0bot02
@kidr0bot02 12 жыл бұрын
...If your well FED... :P
@jamakasis18
@jamakasis18 8 жыл бұрын
Success, with full gear i'm 85kg xD
@unggrabb
@unggrabb 5 жыл бұрын
Good info, but the narrator almost put himself asleep.
@motocruza4657
@motocruza4657 7 жыл бұрын
He's whispering at the near end part of the video.
@maxwellanderson9870
@maxwellanderson9870 8 жыл бұрын
I got RT & his crew at kiwi suspension systems to install Ohlins to my bike front & rear 2012 VRod, My bike rides & handles better than new, strongly recommend for u to take your bike to KSS.
@dianeobi9837
@dianeobi9837 6 жыл бұрын
I have had great experience with them also.
@jefftaylor6487
@jefftaylor6487 4 жыл бұрын
And you don't mention a thing about how to get to those target sag settings if you happen to fall outside of those measurements! Add preload? Firm up the compression or rebound dampening? you don't mention a thing about actually setting anything.
@imwithstupid00011
@imwithstupid00011 3 жыл бұрын
Get your shick and forks serviced first, then try again, or adjudt the spring rate by changing the springs over to your weight.
@Metalunique
@Metalunique 12 жыл бұрын
Did he jus' call me fat?!...
@motocruza4657
@motocruza4657 7 жыл бұрын
Yes. So what?
@iman80skid91
@iman80skid91 Жыл бұрын
Ha ha well fed person.... Funny
@jamesjaneczek8256
@jamesjaneczek8256 8 ай бұрын
You never measured and calculated for stiction.
@marcperrot3339
@marcperrot3339 3 жыл бұрын
what the hell...at 1;27.. guys were lifting by the pegs!!! thats not topout
@robertomalatesta6604
@robertomalatesta6604 3 жыл бұрын
"On a bike like this ... five to ten mm is the target you are looking for". How about the rest of people with different bikes?
@nick281972
@nick281972 2 жыл бұрын
"A very well fed person" lol this guy should go into politics.
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