Bill Jones Talks About Bonnie & Clyde and Winnsboro

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8 жыл бұрын

Bill Jones is the historian of Winnsboro, Texas. He's been collecting tales, fables, and information about Winnsboro for over 50 years. In this video he talks about Bonnie & Clyde and their visits here.

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@Mark-Williams555 Жыл бұрын

Always good to hear people like this relate factual things related to bonnie and clyde. I only met one person who saw them and i was suprised. Was at a 20th maine civil war event back in 1993 and was talking to a freind about them and he said Kermit, our company historian saw them in 1933 in platte city missouri. I spoke later with him and he said he was working at slims castle across from the red crown tavern and spoke with Blanch Barrow and W.D. Jones who would come over and get food. He saw Buck in there as well but did not talk with him. He saw the gun battle later that night and saw Buck get hit and fall. Said there was alot of gunfire and yelling going on. Said it only lasted a minute or two and saw them drive off. His name was Kermit Crawford, we called him Curly. Said he felt bad for them becuase it must have beed a hard misrable life living like that. He did not who they were until after the fight abd was shown photos of them, said they paid him for the food with silver dollars. You just never know who your going to run into in life and i never thought i would talk with someone who spoke to some of them and saw all that. 23:53

@WillBlindYouWithLight 3 ай бұрын

They probably thought Blanche and WD was Bonnie and Clyde. Alot of people did, at the time. They was too be on the lookout for certain size people men and women. Plus Blanche in her riding pants women didn't wear at the time. They were supposed to be on the lookout for people buying medical supplies and Blanche wasnt that much bigger than Bonnie and wd was about the same size as Clyde. Blanche said that she knew it wasn't a safe place to stay and Clyde wouldn't listen to her. Thank you for sharing this😊

@irandleIV 8 ай бұрын

I guess being from Texas I can understand the man clearly. Always love to sit and listen to the elders talk about the old days.

@wadeking8643 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, I could sit and listen to this old feller all day long about those times. My Pappa told me that during the depression Sometimes he'd get so hungry he'd knaw his pillow. Grandpa and his Sister Bertha Mullinax and her husband left Alabama to go out there to the Midwest to find work picking cotton, cutting wheat, working on ranches in Texas. He remembered all this going on. They were somewhere out there eating in a cafe and a guy walked in with a big wide brimmed hat. He ordered food People started whispering and they said, "That's Machine Gun Kelly." That man jumped up and slipped out the back door..Grandpa said not long after that. He heard the laws sirens. I ask him about Bonnie and. Clyde and he said folks knew Bonnie and Clyde had a reputation for being alright..good to folks and stuff but he said they also knew that they would kill you in a heartbeat. He said he felt that the way they died was I guess you would say was an unnecessary overkill he felt..But he made me understand how folks felt about I guess you'd call the system, the banks, the laws and he was a good man but it was like he understood why all of them people were running outlaw in those days

@raymondsenchyna1533 Жыл бұрын

King..salute king ...looks like we've.. Come full circle..depression era Is upon us again unless I miss my.guess..are we gonna see these Histories repeat again ? Bonnie & Clyde No. 2. ..Lester M. Gillis No. 2 Dillinger No 2....what about Capone ? Luciano..Anastasia..nation wide Crime sprees ?? Which side will You be on ? Boiled shoe leather Dosent taste very good...

@teamcougars Жыл бұрын

I love hearing our older generations tell stories I worked in a nursing home after college waiting to take my exams and I loved it when the residents would tell stories about their childhoods and young lives My grandpa lived with us after my grandmother passed away, he had been a gold miner in his youth and went on to be a house painter, he was such a great storyteller, gosh I miss him and our talks, he was such a wonderful, gentle man.

@thinman8621 3 жыл бұрын

Old Bill knows his town and its stories. Even knows who was driving what kind of car on a particular shopping trip on a certain date.

@teamcougars Жыл бұрын

I don’t understand why Bonnie and Clyde have fascinated me so for so long but they do 🤷🏼‍♀️

@pamhoosier8592 Жыл бұрын

Me too!

@Leon-th6nl 12 күн бұрын

same here. people don’t understand

@taylorking3786 11 күн бұрын

If you haven't already you need to watch Stephani Harlowe's 8 part series on them. It's captivating. 7 of the videos are in a playlist and the last (video 8) is not, but it's my comfort series as my husband calls it. Lol Very detailed and wonderfully thought out and researched.

@beandipcartography 3 жыл бұрын

Very interesting. I used to go camping near Winnsboro, back in the 80's. Thanks for the video.

@davidstill4321 Ай бұрын

My granny used to tell me they would see them walking around in Wagoner Oklahoma.Anybody else hear any stories from their older family members?

@CGS1 6 ай бұрын

A friend of my dads mother had a small cafe in Francis Oklahoma and she served Bonnie & Clyde food in the car out back of her cafe

@davidstandingcrow219 3 жыл бұрын

It's always great to hear and listen to passed down story telling from elders that are still alive and with us. I've always loved the connection between Bonnie and Clyde because I believe that it was a TRUE LOVE between the two of them. My personal opinion on their behavior and criminal activities is this. It was what it was. It happened and it ended the way it did. The film can be debated all day long, but I would never depend on any credibility to any possible truth compared to the real truth and a fabricated 'Hollywood' written script. Understanding the myths, facts and fictions of Bonnie and Clyde you have to understand that this was a time when the great depression was in its early years. It may not have effected everybody, but it effected most. Furthermore, I'm sure there was a lot more other violent crime widespread throughout the 'United States' then just two people that were made famous and was noticed and getting caught up into something that may have started by chance. The storyline in one of the scenes of the film, shows where Clyde allowed one of the bank customers to have their money as he and Bonnie were in progress of robbing the bank. FACT OR FICTION? Another line where he offered to pay the person that would later be the one that helped set the ambush up money for helping bunkering them up and getting well. FACT OR FICTION? I think the story of Bonnie and Clyde has been distorted in some ways. With all of their road travels robbing banks, managing to kill police and other acting members of law enforcement, it would seem hard to believe that him and Bonnie would be on the run in 'America's' heartland with all that loot of money without stopping and giving a little to some that were living in extreme poverty during the great depression. FACT, I don't believe they were completely selfish regarding the money they robbed in the few years with each other on the run robbing banks before they were finally ambushed. I could be all wrong about everything, but in comparison between the two, they fit to nothing almost a 100 years later to the criminal element and protocol these day's in 2021.😒

@donaldoneill2117 3 жыл бұрын

Bonnie and Clydes biggest haul was 1500 bucks. They lived in their cars, showered in streams, basically lived like animals. Set up by a clown who they broke out of jail. Bonnie never shot anyone, April 1st,of 34 2 motorcycle cops were killed 1 guy that actually killed 1 cop was the punk that set them up. Frank Hammer retired Ranger made a deal with the rats father to keep his son out of it and get his son out of problems in texas to set up Bonnie and Clyde which ihe did

@davidstandingcrow219 3 жыл бұрын

@@donaldoneill2117 $1,500.00 back in the early 1930's would've been a pretty good loot for the time, but not a wealthy amount and TRUE, I'm sure their lifestyle changed along side of being on the run. As I posted fact or fiction about them personally no one can conclude other then personal detailed accounts from the blood members of their family's. In the end, it was a tragedy Bonnie got caught up in that ambush though.😒

@michaelmeltzer3397 3 жыл бұрын

Bonnie and Clyde managed a few "big" stickups, but their average job netted them 50 dollars or less.

@donaldoneill2117 3 жыл бұрын

@@davidstandingcrow219 clyde was dead from first head shot... Bonnie saw them first because Clyde was looking away. In reality Boots Hinton was drunk one time and admitted that the film u see of the immediate aftermath was rolling from the time Clydes car came roaring. They heard the big v8 coming knew it was him had camera on s tripod. Hinton said they knew within 20ft of where clydes car would stop so the camera was setup for that. Turned it on 15 seconds before they were there. Hin

@donaldoneill2117 3 жыл бұрын

@@davidstandingcrow219 Boots Hinton in real life was drunk one night and admitted that his Dad filmed the whole massacre because he knew where the car would stoo within 20ft because of where Methyins truck was blocking the road. Boots Hinton said the massacre was such overkill because Clyde got killed shot thru the head with first shot. In reality Hintons Dad knew Bonnie when she was a waitress and her husband Thoryon was in Jail. Bonnie was known for banging people for afew extra bucks but wouldn't svrew him. He was pissed. He was next to start shooting do they all just blazed away. 167 bullet holes in car. In 73 when ut was on tour i put my finger in a couple holes in side door, Bonnies side. I was 14. I consider myself a pretty good Western historian from the James gang up to and thru the 1930's. Dillinger said they gave Bank robbing a bad name. His biggest hail was 74k worst 14k. Jesse James biggest was his first and the first daylight bank robbery in US history 66k. So 1500 actually was 14 jundred was still chicken shit money. Stupid Bastards should if moved to New York to get out if midwest after sll there oictures were splattered across the oapers from the Koplin raid on their hideout which looks the same tdsy and is a tourist attraction.

@rodbrock4759 Жыл бұрын

That was pretty cool. Real story.

@normanmcneal3605 3 жыл бұрын

And, no one stopped them! Now, they know all about it

@muddbosss 3 жыл бұрын

After being a depression-era gangster historian since 1969, the one thing that bothers me the most is how people seem to love these crooks? the real heroes are those that died at the hands of pukes like this, my only fascination in all these years has been what made these people want to rob others? putting a gun in someone's face takes no special skills, it's easy to rob others, what was hard was earning an honest dollar to feed the families without having to steal from others, the crap you hear like...." times were hard" is no excuse...millions of people managed to make a living without having to steal from others......

@Jay-vr9ir 2 жыл бұрын

YES!!! How people glamourize criminals as something romantic .

@alanfowler6156 2 жыл бұрын

When the State robs and brutalizes people what do you expect? My only problem with it is that they murdered the wrong people.

@muddbosss 2 жыл бұрын

@@alanfowler6156 There is nothing praiseworthy about ANY crook...be it the State or anybody else, a crook is just a crook and should be dealt with accordingly.....

@alanfowler6156 2 жыл бұрын

@@muddbosss Yes but who is going to 'deal with' the State?

@stevenyourke7901 2 жыл бұрын

I think it’s because the common people hated the bankers more than anything. And not without reason. The bankers foreclosed on your farm and your home, put you out in the street. The police and the sheriff always helped the bankers, so an outlaw who robbed banks and fought the cops was regarded sympathetically.

@lumpylumpy3931 Жыл бұрын

I’m the 50s my dad got to see the death car in mount pleasant tx

@MegaBait1616 Жыл бұрын

Ive seen it couple times.... Think they been displaying it several places around the US....be well.

@earljohnson7675 Жыл бұрын

I worked at a truck stop back around 1973 in oak grove Missouri and they brought the car into the station on a trailer and I was right up next to it looking it all over of course I was a 15 year old boy young and dumb I knew what I was looking at but like I said I was 15

@raymondsenchyna1533 Жыл бұрын

Very poor quality presentation . Can hardly hear the discourse. Sound quality not good . Info good but not clear .

@barbarasteed3966 Жыл бұрын

Is somebody swatting flies in the background...

@redriveral2764 Жыл бұрын

Disappointing, no closed captioning for the hearing disabled.

@cynthiacarter514 Жыл бұрын

👍

@wildestcowboy2668 Жыл бұрын

I think pop's be knowin mo than he be sayin. He know that he has to keep quiet

@parttysetzer6247 Жыл бұрын

Couldn't there better sound system you can hardly hear him but anyways this is a great story

@SnarkNSass 3 жыл бұрын

I was looking through my Analytics and saw this vid was a major clik through source for my Bonnie and Clyde car mailbox video. It's not actually the B&C car but looks similar and is full of bullet holes. Hence, why I called it that. Lol Subd n Belld. HFTCD HFTJD SIFUAS

@VW613 Жыл бұрын

Thats right 2 bit, mad dog killers! Thanks for your memories!

@allenhamilton6688 3 жыл бұрын

One of my great uncles ran with them. That great uncle was a POS who would steal from anyone, including family, poor as they were. No sympathy here for B&C.

@davidm8914 2 жыл бұрын

Who was your great uncle?

@allenhamilton6688 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidm8914 Last name was Hamilton. Don't recall the first, off hand.

@allenhamilton6688 2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure, in the picture I found he was blonde and very square jawed. When I was young, I overheard my father talking to his brother-in-law about it. He never told me directly. I think that was just after to 60's B&C movie. It was a family shame issue.

@allenhamilton6688 2 жыл бұрын

@David M Best wishes to you as well!

@danielblackburn1241 Жыл бұрын

Live by the gun . Die by the gun

@mcrabbb 10 ай бұрын

when they stopped at ur great grand partents

@donaldoneill2117 Жыл бұрын

When i was a kid in 73, i saw the death car at Brockton mass fair. I climbed over ropes and put afew fingers in bullet holes. Found out they were exit holes as bullets came in thru Clydes side. He was killed by a head shot immediately. This is why Bonnie started screaming she saw the cops hop up she started screaming as they said like a banshee. Clydes foot slipped off clutch be ause he was dead. Bonnie was screaming because clydes brains were sprayed all over her. Then the posse just opened up. 167 bullet holes in total. Most went thru clyde into her. She lived for like 30 seconds until Hinton opened her dr and fell into his arms he pushed her in dead. Bonnie a tually killed no one ever. Also Hitlers touring car was there..summer of 73. I started becoming a amateur Historian about all western outlaws from Jesse James to to Bonnie and Clyde, pretty boy Floyd, Dillinger. And Baby face Nelson. Incidentally in Public enemies starts out with purvis killing Floyd which was stupid considering he was killed last, before Dillinger. NELSON IS also screwed by history. He knew from connections that they murdered Dillinger and Floyd so on november 22nd Nelson killed 2 Fbi agents one was in on Dillinger killing. So All that was left was Barker Karpis gang. Also Ma Barker was a kindly old lady who went to church and never killed anyone. They posed machine gun in her arms.

@donaldoneill2117 Жыл бұрын

Continuing as far as Nelson goes. He knew the Fbi would kill him dead no matter what so he.killed them even though he was shot 17 shotgun pellets in his legs and 15 machine gun shots in belly to chest.google the man who supposedly killed Floyd he made a deathbed confession. He was brought in as a shrpshooter. When Floyd was running thru corn field he shot floyd in elbow but floyd kept going, so he shot him in leg which dropped him. Purvis walked up told him his name was Charles artur Floyd...hated nickname pretty boy. Purvis said this is for Kansas city...where agents were killed transporting a prisoner. Actually one of the gunman was vern miller. The mob tortured and killed him for putting heat on Kansa city underworld. Like i said google that mans confession. He said purvis had another agent fire into Floyds chest killing him. Purvis said and i quote" u think we r coming back here for trial when half the people think he is a hero and the others he is related too!". Then he told that shooter that dropped him u r taking credit for this kill. It bothered him his whole life. He didn't want to loose his job and pension so he kept his mouth shut. There r puctures of him fingerprinting Floyd. Floyd only killed 1 man a boynty hunting sheriff who crossed state lines. He sprung out of the darkness with a shorgun blasted floyd in his legs but Floyd killed him with his 45. It bothered Floyd the last few yrs of his life, he talked of it often...sound like a man who 3 yrs later would machine gun a carload of people with 2 other guys killing Frank jelly Nash. Who was said was going to testify on afew cohorts to get out of death sentence. Fbi has always been corrupt. J edgar Hoover was a cross dressing homo who lived with his mother. The mob had pictures of him in drag and film of him and his boyfriend Clyde Tolson. They r buried side by side and Hoover died first and left him everything. Hoover was also in on killing Kennedy along with Johnson because they were going to retire Hoover. But Hoover showed Kennedy Marilyn pics with him so that nixed that. Hoover denied their was a mob until they all got caught having the big meeting in Appalachin New York. Purvis must of had ghosts chasing him in his dreams for unarmed men he killed. Dillinger, FLOYD and others because he killed himself in 61 with same gun he used on Dillinger...although it was doughtful it was as he didn't shoot Dillinger in back of head when he was down. Sam Crowley did...why Nelson got him. I could go on and on. Did u know Bobby Kennedy had a 4yr fling with Jackie Kennedy after the president was killed? There is a book out. And Bobby killed Marilyn Monroe. He was seen leaving her house the nite she died. He got pulled over for speeding. Peter Lawford was driving. Look what the Feds did to Trump! Chased him for 6yrs with phony shit cost us millions of dollars. Money that goes to Ukraine is whacked up with ukraines president and the elite. Pelosie, and company. 87k new irs agents to grab your money. Borders wide open and fentanol killing our kids nor to mention all the terrorists coming into country. It is all by design. They don't want Trump back in because he will get Hunter, his Dad, his brother. They all take money from china and other countries. 178k a yr salaries and leave...never with millions of dollars. Insider trading. Pelosis husband just made 100 plus million from such knowledge. And Epstein didn't kill himself. Windpipe doesn't get crushed hanging yourself in cell. Cameras were off, guards were asleep. Do u really beleive that. Pedophile island. I know a probtion officer in fla who has inside dope on what went on there. Bill Clinton loves girls around 13, nice huh. And he said Hillary hasn't eaten more muff than he ever did! And Barry seal ran coke into the airstrip where pablo escobars relative bought it all up. Airport, house around it.Look up menza airport where he was governor and they killed the 2 teenage boys and laid them on railroad tracks to destroy bodies. One of the guys who put bodies on tracks has confessed, no charges, but u can google it. Clintons even killed there lawyer. Our country is gone now...mayberry never really existed.

@Mr1gladiatore Жыл бұрын

How do you know for sure that Bonnie Parker and Ma Barker never killed anyone?

@donaldoneill2117 Жыл бұрын

@@Mr1gladiatore alvin karpis was released and moved to canada.he did more time 25yrs in Alcatraz than anyone. Great interview with him. He had no reason to lie and he made jokes about Hoover arresting him. Barker karpis gang stole almost 2 million! Got 250k in 1 shot. He talked about ma. Said she loved checkers, church and going to the movies..he said they would take her and set her up in a apartment... the best and case a job for afew wks and then do it. Then move on. They loved her so they took her but never on a job! He said look after after a 65yr old women and get into gunfights too! He laughed and said it was all made up by Hoover so he wouldn't look bad. All the dime novels were done after they killed her. He also talked about other gangs. How they would help eachother when needed. He said Nelson was crazy and made him nervous. Great interview google Talks with Alvin Karpis it will come up.

@Mr1gladiatore Жыл бұрын

@@donaldoneill2117 I understand that Ma Barker at 65 yrs old not killing anyone but what about Bonnie Parker? I realize after her leg injury that she was probably forced to stay in the car or wait somewhere to meet up after a job but before her injury, she probably participated because she liked the excitement of it. There are so many different versions about the 1930s outlaws that you can't ever know absolutely what is the truth.

@MegaBait1616 Жыл бұрын

@@donaldoneill2117 , Our Country is Gone Now..........smh. Just gets worse everyday now. be well.

@mistervacation23 11 ай бұрын

Where in the hell is Winnsboro for God's sake

@PaoYang-bj1hz Жыл бұрын

Why didn't he appeared in the video,why?? So odd!! Frogtown Minnesota u.s.a,..

@douggauzy6258 Жыл бұрын

I love how people make criminals and people who kill out to be Good Folks . Kind of Foolish I’d say !

@___David___Savian Жыл бұрын

What saddens me the most about the United States is that in the U.S. crime is glorified or talked about more than good deeds that people do. In fact, people talk more about criminals in the U.S. than actual heros. I'll bet most Americans are hard pressed to remember a hero's name. But, they sure know about Al Capone, Scarface, The Godfather, Charles Manson and Bonny & Clyde. Only rarely such as Martin Luther King Day or Jesus on Christmas are honored in The U.S. Even American kids are allowed to be trained by their parents to like guns when they buy their kids video games about war and killing such as Call Of Duty and Grand Theft Auto. Everything in the U.S. seems to be about violence, guns, drinking, legalizing drugs and fast cars. What is going on in that country ?? To prove my point, my American friend told me that yesterday the republican side of the American government forced the president to increase funding for the military and freezing any increase on the social security for the old people. I looked it up. The U.S. military spends more money than any other country on Earth. Yet, the government there still wants to spend more. That is the epitome of screwed up priorities.