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He was barely jumping (as always) and leaned forward. That was some unique form.

Exactly, same exact thing I was thinking. They’re flat but on point.

the incorrect aspect ratio has made the video stretch out sideways. it's making it look like there's less arc on the shot. not saying he's looping it a whole lot, just saying it looks worse than it is

Haha from 7 ft with exactly 3 1/2 feet of arc 🤣

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I'm a huge Pistons fan, but Laimbeer is what he is. A fringe all-star player that was a great asset on your team. He wasn't a hall of famer though.

@@alexh8613 He was an All-Star, fringe Hall of famer. When he retired he was one of only 15 players ever with 10,000 points and 10,000 rebounds, 2x champ, very underrated defender. He drew more charges than any player I've ever seen. There were many others he wouldn't get the call because of his reputation, but the replay showed it clearly was a charge that should have been called.

@@alexh8613 not a top 100 player, but for sure an HOF center.

100% agree! Laimbeer should be in the hall of fame

He was ahead of his time

We love the Bad Boys... no room for pussys on this bandwagon... Detroit baby ...Bill was an All star , and the Heart and soul of those dominant teams... that overshadows your weak mined comments!

@@petervandermey7896 he wasn't being weak with his comment man. You are hilarious! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@@kingdomthinker9794 weak minded... basically he is ignorant... just going with the stereotypical non thought provoking statement.

3 decades ahead? How?

@@kingdomthinker9794 you should read, think then add your comments... then maybe you will learn something, versus trying to get me to look foolish. All it shows me is your lack of depth. Though I understand.... most people hated Bill , Zeak and Rodman... in that order. those were the BOYs.

As A True Long Time Pistol Fan That's Real Talk.

Kind of like Kevin Garnett, despite being known as a gritty defender, trash talker,etc he had a smooth mid range jumper

Yeah, that doesn't get brought up hardly ever, how many near 7-footers make 90% of their free throws?

and how to bodyslam people xdd thats a great skill too

“Instigator” 😂

How is literally taking off people’s head a mind game?

@@jrsmith1998 I play so similar to laimbeer and Im getting better at shooting Im so good at committing hard fouls tho.

@@that_dude_tk7327 😂. Dude u are going to get beat up if you out there playing like Bill 😂

Facts... and great observation. It takes skill to shoot it in that manner

i thought he already was in it, wow, ben wallace need to be in it too

I’m surprised you have any respect for this guy. He was the dirtiest player of all time.

@@Finnian_ There were dirtier players. Back then every team had a goon or two. But he and the Pistons embraced the image and the media ran with it.

Yes i like this comment

Johnson ASMR He was good though

After Isiah Bill Was The Most Important Part Of The Team.

@@clewisrichardson3379 Nah.... I'd go with Isiah, Dumars, then Laimbeer. But Laimbeer was a helluva player(antics aside), and is chronically underrated...

Nah, after zeke is was the worm

​@@clewisrichardson3379agreed. 💯💯 he was good on BOTH ends of the court and was an assassin

Bob Mcadoo*

@Aarav . 100 years ago no three pointers back then

Jack Sikma?

@Aarav . 100 years ago "cant shoot" you think Patrik Ewing with his great jump shoot cant shoot 3s or just game was different? Probable Lonzo Ball or Westbrick are better shooters than Bird bcoz they shoot more 3s :D

The OG Dirk

*an excellent

100% agree.

I get that you wrote it under a vid showing his great plays, but objectively it would be very hard to defend the claim of his 'excellence'. Solid player with average stats. Career PER 16.1 (league average is always 15.0). What was impressive for me, was his ability to play in the NBA despite his complete lack of athleticism

@@maciejguzek3442 But you're overlooking the intangibles... I honestly doubt Detroit gets two championships, maybe not even one without him. Tough as nails, dude hardly ever missed a game in his career. He was THE master of getting oppositions out of their game. He was a very underrated defender, I've never seen a player draw more charges then he did. He didn't get a lot of blocks, one per game, but he was very effective at changing shots, positioning. It was that positioning that allowed him to lead the league and rebounding twice. When he retired, he was one of just 15 players in NBA history to have over 10,000 points and rebounds. "Solid" doesn't cut it. I'm not sure about "excellent" either, but I would call him great though for sure.

@@johnboehmer6683 you are right, I take back my calling him 'average', it's not fair for a guy who actually LED the league in rebs at some point. As for intangibles, I'm not arguing, I'm not in a position to actually have an opinion

ahhhhh Clifford Robinson. the man with the band! Sixth man of the year in ...1993, iirc? super sad that he passed so young. RIP

and man, I forgot that Drazen was on this team. i feel like the result might have been different if he'd seen more time--a modern NBA team would def not have been scared to go w a small line-up like, say, Porter-Petrovic-Drexler-Kersey-Cliff Robinson. anyway, yes, it's really sad that so many members of that great Trail Blazers team died so young. they were my faves as a kid

​@@evilotis01 please, Detroit's 3 guards would have lit his ass up.

I can't remember the exact on this, but I know it had been many years since Detroit won in Portland as they headed there with the series tied 1-1.

@@johnboehmer6683 Yes it was a ridiculous streak too, like 17 years since they had won a game in Portland. I remember terry porter all happy after game 2 saying the series would be closed out at their crib. He was right 😆

Those blazers were arguably the weakest team in the nba finals

He definitely had a huge series. Completely threw the Blazer big men off their game.

That last shot was a TWO by James Edwards. Lam hit all six of his threes...

@@bOmBAsTiK read his comment again

Stop it! Isiah sealed that with his Game 1 rally, his dominating 2nd half in Game 4 and his first half in Game 5 Laimbeer didn't have ALL those moments in the series like Isiah did

Agreed. 👍🏿

Ric

People always credit Dirk for being one of the first big men to shot from 3 but Laimbeer did it long before Dirk in an era when 3's weren't shot as much as they are now. He didn't shoot 3's but Ewing was another big man that shot jumpers

BrownBrother27 Dennis Rodman said it best in his book: "Laimbeer was more than a thug, but that's what he'll be remembered for." Damn shame, because he really was a good player, and from what I've heard, a very nice guy. Good family man and does a lot of charity work.

TL2354 Guys like Jack Sikma and Tom Chambers had range back in the day too.

He reminds me of former all-star Mehmet Okur

He was an all-star, and one of the top rebounders of the 80s. Worm learned how to tap the ball to himself on rebounds, and likely learned a few head games to play on foes from Lam and Horn. Even Johnny Most said that he would have traded for Laimbeer in a heartbeat if given the chance.

BBBYpsi perfect teammate for Isiah Thomas

just for his sheer toughness he should be in the HOF..he taught Rodman basically

@@AICMasta Indeed, Rodman learned to tip the ball to keep it alive on rebounds, and might've even learned a few tricks or two on how to get under an opponent's skin from Lam.

He'll get in for his coaching in the WNBA, but he deserved more of a look for his play. He might get in if Sikma and Sidney Moncrief can get in (both are deserving, and long-overdue).

BBBYpsi and 10000000000000000000000000000 dirty plays

Bill and Jack Sikkema from the old Supersonics were like the first two bigs to play that "stretch 4" offense.

... but you're a better man for it!😁

He should be the HOF multiple times. For coaching and promoting women’s basketball and being one of the greatest wnba coaches ever. Making the blue print for the modern stretch big. Multiple time all star. Two time nba champion, 3 time wcf champion, 4 time wcf finalist. Rebound leader. Averaged over a double double in his prime and scored with high efficiency. Guarded some of the best big man. Ultimate teammate. Created the blue print for modern team enforcer.

Since his first 3-pointer occurred in the first half, I didn't feel it'd be fair to include it as one of the title's "clutch" 3-pointers. His other five came late in the fourth quarter or overtime. His six overall 3-pointers, as well as their place in history, are mentioned and referenced in the video's description.

@@Swove2204 Van the man back at it again with the explanation.

Bill Was For Real!

It truly is unique the way he shot it, real quick release like you said. The delivery was like a catapult, almost like he was throwing a pass, not taking a shot.

you forgot 'David Robinson' 😅

Parish

And one did so one wayyyyyy higher volume. This is why you don’t compare efficiency without context. MJ averaged 30.12 PPG (all time record)

Mj's ft percentage is unacceptable it's a joke how your ft percentage as a shooting guard is same as a center's

@@et5740 You act like Bill was a scrub...Jordan was the greatest ever... but Bill was a legitimate All Star, and The Captain of his team... you can definitely say , Bill was thee best player or Thee second Best player for 4-5 years with the Pistons... and definitely the 1 player we could not do with out... in there prime champion years! Bill was a center , MJ was a shooting guard. This is why it’s remarkable. Let’s see thee other centers of that eras , Percentages... they won’t be close. I believe this is what he’s looking at.

Peter Vandermey 3rd best player*. And yes, it’s very impressive. But MJ attempted over 20 shots a game. You can’t compare two guys efficiencies when the attempt gap is so big. Both Dumars and Zeke were better than Bill.

@@et5740 JDumars was eventually better... when he first got to Detroit , Bill was a All star , and Co Captain with Zeak. Ofcouse Isaiah was thee best Player ... though Bill was thee most important, in a playoff run...we could have faired ok with Isaiah out, of the line up. Over a season it would definitely catch up to you If Zeak was out. Though in a 7 game series , Not having Bill would kill us. Manufacturing points is , much easier , than pretending your tuff , with out a Pit Bull. That’s why If the stakes were high, and they the choice for the game was Bill or Joe Dumars. I’m definitely going with the Big Dog who can shoot and Intimidate. I love all the Bad Boys. Trust when I tell you , no Bill Lambeer , no Bad Bad Boys , and Maybe no rings. We still win the chip in 89 m without JD, even though he was hot in the finals and won MVP. With out Bill that series might go 6 games. In 90, We don’t reach the finals if Bills not there. I can see us still beating the Bulls with out Joe D.

As physical as he played, he only missed about 4 games over his entire 14 year career, with the exception of his final season.

They looked drained after the ECF, and the Blazers could have easily been up 2-0. Plus, they hadn't won in Portland since the 70s, so a lot of people thought that the Blazers were going to wrap it up on their home court.

​@@mangrove Portland was the Western Conference version of the Atlanta Hawks, a team with a low basketball IQ . Go back and look at how the Hawks from 1987-1989 underachieved because Detroit was in their heads (see the Jon Koncak contract). Now look at how Portland choked in 1990 (Isiah), 1991 (Magic) and 1992 (Jordan). They were like the Hawks fun to watch and in crunch time, you could count on Dominique Wilkins and Clyde Drexler to play some of the dumbest basketball in key possessions.

I remember I was worried after the split in Detroit. At the time, the Pistons hadn't won in Portland in forever. So what do they do? Win all 3 out west to win the Championship.

Yet he virtually never missed a game in his entire career.

Fock today's game

And his percentage would be even higher if he played today, because not only is defense softer today, but three-point shooting is such a premium now that he would have practiced it more, been even better at it.

It's the Money man, it ruins EVERYTHING

Nah that was Jack Sikma.

@@handlebucket6285 sikma might have been a more skilled scorer but laimbeer was better on defense / rebounding and basically everything else

I've never seen a shot with less arch, absolutely amazing that he could hit 50% over an entire career shooting primarily outside with such a flat shot. But he did have a quick release.

Dr. J shot a similar looking flat long range jumper. He came by his from playing in a lot of old gyms in grade and high school with low ceilings where you couldn't launch a high arc shot or you'd hit the ceiling.

Drazen Petrovic. Dead at 28.

@@sketchyold him too!

He should be HOF due to his achievements.

All the the Hall of Fame big men back then had some shooting ability except Shaq

nah he definitely shot it with his feet

Yeah, that's kind of my fault. Those were not counted as threes but I included them anyway to show the rest of his performance (beyond the late game threes). He finished with six 3-pointers officially; it would have been eight had his toes been behind the line on two of those first three jumpers.

Ryan Van Dusen Right on!

Honestly if you think about it Draymond got fugged up by K love and Anthony Davis if you’re big and can shoot… the hundred million dollar scam Draymond Green is toast

bruh he jumps when he shots, what is so hard to understand about the video and about the word jump shot?

was more like step shot

More like a Skip-sling-shot!

naw its that set shot .. id agree with ya... as far as im concerned a jumper is releasing mid-air

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The same amount of times LeBron has to drive to a wide open bucket before teams clog the lane and make his teammates beat them.

Offensively, Laimbeer was their fourth or fifth option. Thomas, Dumars, Aguirre, and sometimes with the three guard rotation Johnson were all very potent offensive weapons that took more shots, and got more attention. Also, apparently they didn't get the scouting report on Bill's ability to hit out there.

Other than the occasional pick and pop with Isiah, Bill didn't have any plays. He drifted outside like a safety valve or battled for a rebound. They were looking for him that night because he and Edwards were the only guys that were hot.

Bill had to grab rebounds with Dennis, get second chance points, get blocks, guards the other centers and lock down the paint. He moved to the 3 pt line to make space for it and when he didn’t have to do his main responsibilities

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@@booyaaka Laimbeer became a 3 point threat when he played the power forward position and James Edwards was the center after Mahorn left.. That's when he really started to shoot more 3's

@@booyaaka but if you want to say 5 then thats cool too, he can be the original Stretch 4 and 5.. 😂🤷🏿‍♂️

Fast release makes it hard to block, true, but that straight line he throws his shots makes it easy to block, they kind of cancel each other out.

Correct. Only five were “clutch”, so to speak, so I hedged my bets by under-promising in the title.

The guy who made this video said he just threw those 2 in as bonus to show how hot Laimbeer was shooting that night, but you'll notice neither of the two times his foot was on the line were counted as threes.

sengun is a lot closer.. Jokic is a bit more unique. for some reason jokic moves like a mix of mchale and dirk