Crazy how different the middle of this list is compared to just six months ago. Every NBA season is wild but this one especially was just bonkers

NBA Trade Value Rankings 65 to 1 Number One - 3:00 Nikola Jokic Honorable / Dishonorable Mention - 4:29 Kyrie Irving and Ben Simmons Toughest Omissions - 6:58 Keldon Johnson, Lou Dort, Jaden Ivey, Dyson Daniels, Jaden McDaniels, Devin Vassell, Caleb Martin, Nikola Vucevic Off the List - 7:24 Rudy Gobert, Chris Paul, Jordan Poole, Kyle Kuzma, Jerami Grant, Khris Middleton, Julius Randle, Jarrett Allen, Anfernee Simons, James Harden, Jabari Smith, Marcus Smart Group L - Buyers’ Remorse - 8:52 65. Tyler Herro 64. Bradley Beal 63. Zach Lavine 62. Kawhi Leonard (Dishonorable Mention?) Group K - Quality Starters - 13:23 61. Keegan Murray 60. R.J. Barrett 59. DeMar Derozan 58. Andrew Wiggins 57. Draymond Green 56. Derrick White 55. Trae Young 54. Dejounte Murray Group J - Upside Gang - 14:28 53. Jaylen Green 52. Shaedon Sharpe 51. Tyrese Maxey 50. Scottie Barnes 49. Austin Reaves 48. Brandon Miller 47. Scoot Henderson 46. Cade Cunningham Group I - Sorry, He’s Worth More To Us Than You - 17:55 45. O.G. Anunoby 44. Brandon Ingram 43. Aaron Gordon 42. Desmond Bane 41. Domantas Sabonis Group H - If You Tell Woj, I’ll Deny It To The Death, But, I’m Listening - 18:58 40. LeBron James 39. Paul George 38. Jrue Holiday 37. Karl Anthony Towns 36. LaMelo Ball 35. Pascal Siakam 34. Jaylen Brown Group G - Too Young, Too Cheap, Too Good, Please Stop Calling Us - 22:31 33. Chet Holmgren 32. Lauri Markkanen 31. Walker Kessler 30. Franz Wagner 29. Jaylen Williams Group F - The Incredibly Touchable Untouchables - 23:33 28. Zion Williamson 27. Ja Morant Group E - Let Me Save You Some Time, F*ck No - 26:08 26. Damian Lillard 25. Mikhail Bridges 24. Donovan Mitchell 23. Darius Garland 22. Josh Giddey 21. Jalen Brunson 20. Anthony Davis 19. De’Aaron Fox Group D - Budding Franchise Guys - 30:20 18. Paolo Banchero 17. Tyrese Haliburton 16. Evan Mobley 15. Bam Adebayo 14. Jaren Jackson Jr. Group C - Only If They Made Us Do It - 32:37 13. Jimmy Butler 12. Jamal Murray 11. Joel Embiid 10. Kevin Durant Group B - The Untouchables - 37:09 9. Anthony Edwards 8. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 7. Devin Booker Group A - The Completely and Utterly Untouchable - 41:18 6. Jayson Tatum 5. Stephen Curry 4. Victor Wenbanyama 3. Luka Doncic 2. Giannis Antetokounmpo 1. Nikola Jokic

Bill snuck in that "long showers" comment😂 house did not approve

House saying he would trade Reaves for Irving sounds like something the Wizards would do

I love having House on the podcast. Him calling Bill out for his absurd Kobe takes is nice.

That long shower comment was way off the hook lmao 😂

Beautiful take by Joe House on the Kevin Durant rank. Someone finally called out the media bias with Durant. The whole “I just hoop” thing is a cop out for his real nonexistent playoff success that last few years.

I'm so glad Joe was on the episode. He was the voice of reason on this episode

I don't think Anthony Davis was a bad pick in 2015 - 21 years old, already All-NBA and All-Defense, coming off a season when he averaged 24 and 10 with 3 blocks

I distinctly remember the Spurs slander coming out of Kawhi’s camp when he demanded a trade.

Franz Wagner is so underrated

Kuwai is an absolute artist on the hardwood, but it feels like waiting for that next Guns N’ Roses album (that is never going to happen). LeBron is no longer the smartest guy in the association-that would be Jokic now, but let’s say King James is the wisest player in basketball because seriously, he has more experience than Methuselah!

Love how House always holds the mic

Bill so right about Kyrie.

Zion hype in 2019 was also that he was gonna be a top 10 all-time guy and that hasn’t yet materialized. Let’s just slow down a little on Wembanyama

For someone’s who’s done this before House doesn’t get the list lol

Giving up Austin Reaves for Kyrie Irving is flat out insane

10:57 4th Quarter yellin "Why TF Batum in?"

As a Jazz fan it's very interesting that you put Walker Kessler higher on the list than Lauri Markkanen. Even if it's just one spot higher. And I understand that Walker was awesome rookie, so he has high upside but Lauri is all star who kept improving the whole season and is in very teamfriendly contract 😃

Kyrie being omitted is a huge W

the ONE full pod bill puts up on youtube i listen on spotify heading home from work... Please, do more video pods on youtube!

This is a great segment

“Our Doughy Serbian King” 😂😂😂

All it took was Jalen Green doing Bill Simmons podcast for him to complete change his tune from hate to empathy

Great, great takes by House. Bold, logical, entertaining. Love him

“Some long showers” 😂😂

Bill’s basketball breakdown is amazing … except the part of him hating some players and teams and being the grandest homer of Celtics ever.

Joe 🏠 Keeps It Real! That Is All 😂😂😂

Thanks for this amazing episode

Great show! Loved it

Jalen green is becoming stupidly underrated. Look at the scenario he was drafted into. It’s not like Giddey, mobley or even Banchero would make this rockets team competent

7:43 "Why is he off the list" Bill: "He didn't make the list" Me: *subscribe*

Damn man, I can’t believe that first column came out in 2001.. I remember reading that on ESPN page 2 when I was like 12-13 years old..

The Kawhi slander is music to my ears as a Spurs fan 😂

whenever i see House always reminds me of Norm MacDonald

0:50 Bill Simmons definitely hates Kobe, we all know it dawg , 😂

Enjoyable conversation 😂

amazing segment. as much as house likes the punitive angles in a list like this, i think u gotta consider embiid as someone who could turn into the guy soon

Crazy to think we talk about Kawhi like this. Was once of my favorite player on the Spurs and now slowly breaking down. At least the Spurs future is bright with the arrival of Wemby, so me personally this is very Poetic.

I love your podcast 👍

Love Joe checking Bill's biases

Bill Simmons hates Damian Lillard. That is insane, dude literally played like an MVP last year.

😂😂 I love House.

The way Carlisle moronically used Mathurin (not starting him) aside he still shoulda of been honorable mention for his highs as 20 year old rookie. Also while I wanted my Pacers to draft Booker over Turner in 2015 and wanted 27/29 unprotected Lakers 1s for him/Hield bc they’re dumpster fire possibly post LeBron/AD and it helped us double Wemby odds and start force Carlisle 2 start Mathurin, BUT Turner on great contract not being mentioned HM top65 at all was kinda amateur hour. Mobley I like but he’s too high, LeBron (not shocking as LeBron owned one Bill’s team more then any athlete ever knocking then out 5X 2011-18 including 3 ECF, 3 of which Celtics could close at home in 6/7….then LeBron went to hated lakers and was Finals MVP for them in 2020 + good WCF run after 2-10 start) at 40 embarrassing as he was inarguably Top7-15 best player last year, averaged 25, 10, 7 on 50% in playoffs, averaged 28 10 10 52Fg% in WCF, was God tier December to February pre foot injury (injuries and age knock him down I get but still). Chet too high, KD (all timer but 35 & 8 months when playoffs start with injury history) too high. I love how House calls out Bill on many of his trash rankings/takes more then anyone. Bill is a legend in the space (even as annoying homer and LeBron hate since he owned his team 11-18 then went to hated lakers, plus underrates Reggie Miller who has 16th most won shares including playoffs when everyone 1-25 around him is an all time legend or legend), but he’s at his best interviewing all time greats or talking with ppl who actually debate with him.

Thank you Bill Simmons.

So let me get this right yall rather have Derrick White over Trey Young.... and Jaden McDaniels over Jalen Green.... man you stat analytical nerds are something else!!!!

Bill doesnt hate Kobe ? yeah right - still remember the sh!t about the finals vs celtics Kobe shot 6-24 but got 15 boards etc and you just ripped him - like Jordan never had a 9-26 game

lol "our doughy Serbian king" absolute gold

You guys are the best doing this, please do it more

House's son catching a stray with the repeating kindergarten comment in the Kyrie discussion... lmaoooo

6:53 Great line by Bill

Reaves for Irving would be the best scenario possible for Dallas 🙏

Video to this is the best

Brandon Ingram is one of the best players in the NBA and is 25

3:04 DSK I kinda love that name lol

Oh, please. I’m begging you. Please tell us the story of the Zoom call with Harry (Fredo).

I really hope Wemby stays healthy cause it would be great for basketball to see a guy like him thrive. But man, that build for the kind of game he plays (& how we've seen top picks break down) worries me. He's got the right coach but I hope there's a different medical staff than the one dealing with Kawhi.

Following Bill's podcasts since those Real Audio player days on ESPN and this is first time i see House. Looks like if Graham Hancock (jre) and James Calville had a baby.

The Bill Simmons Trae Young hate is real

The idea you trade Luka right now is insane. Maybe down the road, like Lebron's first cavs stint, but not now.

18:35 bill is WILD on this take. denver absolutely would take OG in that trade?? he's two years younger, an elite defender, and a better 3pt shooter AND he's $3m/year cheaper (one year shorter deal tho). AG gets to the line a little more, but OG is more efficient all around. if you think your window is 2-3 more years, I'd take OG in that trade all day.

Amazing vid but how you gonna say Jalen Brunson is more beloved than Melo after one year 😭

Ivey and Jabari have to have more value than Leonard and LaVine

Thank you Kanye, very cool!

Can we start using Lebron’s age instead of “Year 20”? This is a weird rhetorical move. Kareem had some great numbers in his late 30s and was a FMVP.

"Long showers" 😂😂😂

The Kyrie position from Bill has not aged well AT ALL. He literally said there were 65 current NBA players that no team would trade straight up to get Kyrie. That's batshit crazy.

I know nobody watches the Pacers but no Myles Turner and especially no Bennedict Mathurin is blasphemous

Joe House is the best guest man. Either him or Cousin Sal.

Aside from the bubble, Lebron hasn't played an injury-free season since he arrived in L.A. Even this year, I hears Lebron fans talking about how great Lebron was with his ankle injury. "Imagine if he hadn't been injured!" But he's always injured. This needs to be acknowledged and discussed. This isn't about hating on Lebron, it's about balancing the "he's so great in year 20" talk.

House* is the only regular guest who will push back on Billʻs grandiose statements (*and Van Latham).

Was listening to this in my car with my kids with me had to turn it off after the 7th f bomb

Giddy! Woooo. Young kid is amazing

I finallly recognized

If the Clippers had told Kawhi that they couldn't accommodate the Paul George trade I say he would have signed with them anyway. Or better yet still he wouldn't have. I've never understood everyone saying you have to do that every time. Or that Brooklyn had to make the Harden trade. These kinds of trades are loaded with risk and even if they deliver a title that's still a long time in the wilderness after those guys age out.

Dunno Simmons. Garland looked pretty bad in the playoffs. But the Cavs bigs looked bad as well. Carmelo was and is over-rated. I'll take that opinion to my grave.

Bill’s ability to throw shade at LBJ is impressive.

what will the thunder need to make them a playoff team a all star small forward of a all star big of both

No shot jalen green is so low considering he was the only one to game plan around on the rockets this year. Rockets wouldn’t trade him for Mobley or giddey

New Subscriber. You've come out and said what a good portion of the thinks about the "grifters". Along with 'South Park" you have the whole world watching/listening. I'm waiting for your Prince Harry story, and so is the rest of the earth.

Huh, always pictured house with hair

House almost lost me with that “is Booker better than Murray” lol glad they cleaned that up afterwards

THANK YOU HOUSE !!! HAIL IN THE SAME BOAT AS LAMELO they bota gotta play

"some long showers" Bill from the top rope

Who’s on the Mr Rushmore of top-ten list that Simmons has made?

How did we get to long showers whilst talking about Kyrie Bill? 🤣🤣🤣

Bill, you’re losing your Boston, you said Charlestown way too LA… smh

I don’t get it. Why they don’t even mention Nic Claxton?

House is a 100% right about Durant and Embiid

Austin Reaves and Jaden Mcdaniels over Jalen Green🤣🤣 Problem with media role players who are barely on the scouting report gets more love than a guy that is getting all the schemes cause he’s the guy

House’s moron gimmick is so good, he refuses to break kayfabe

Not sure if I’m crazy but as a Cavs fan I’d be upset if we traded DG for Dame. I think that is based on a lot of emotion, but I also think he has still so much room left to grow.

Bill half this pod i fucked up that up lol i love listening both of them there's definitely a couple i wouldve swapped down abit but overall solid

Kyrie is a top player if not for who he is as a person. Kawhi is a top player if not for his egregious injury problems. Lots of guys are top players if not for their massive, glaring flaws.

Luka as a trade asset is absolutely ignorant. Tatum is the only top 6 mentioned that can actually be moved. I think Tatums value is so high and Jas is so low they could do Tatum and Brogdon for Ja and JJJ. That would be filthy for both squads. But no team can trade for the rest of those top 5 without giving up a current young superstar plus loads of other work. This is the time Memphis and New Orleans should look to move their franchise faces, both teams win without them and neither player is showing consistency on the court while both also now have character concerns. Still get a lot of value for both guys and both teams are ready to win so the right move can set them up for huge success.

Wake up babe. Bill Simmons just put out a new trade value list. Also the trade value column is always basically the trade value for the previous season. Bill's a basketball reactionary

Derrick White having more trade value than James Harden is the funniest shit I have ever seen.

the kawhi trade is not one of the worst trades the last years - the clippers team was bad and they reached the western finals more than the clippers ever achieved

Bill is the god father of this

Great video but Lebron below Jalen Williams is insanity