Great now that's all I'm going to hear when I hear the song Bullet with Butterfly wings!

@@TiberiusStorm lol. Welcome to my world. Sometime I'll show the world my "stat trek show" lyrics . U cant unhear it.

awesome

...or he's a French Hussar!

Yah dude... forget It... he is level 30 bro

lol

Nice

Beautifully Done

two yolks don't make a white, not sure what i mean with this.

Bald truth

Who did he mean?

@@mayk6529 he meant, grave holes

@@lokin8996 No, he meant the band hole, with courtney love. her and corgan had a thing before cobain

@@mayk6529 he meant hole, with courtney love

if you’re implying when he said holes, he was talking about Kurt Cobain’s suicide, thats a bit of a stretch don’t you think

Dude seriously id love to see Krist on here.

Krist thinks Joe’s a weirdo

He would weird out at all of Joes anti vax stuff

While I would interested in watching that, Krist is very liberal and outspoken, he wouldn't be afraid to call Joe out on the bs. Because of that I doubt Joe would have him on. Krist probably wouldn't care to be on the podcast anyways.

how is he the closest thing to having kurt that’s a weird statement

Dark Horseman he's jealous

Joe Rogan didn’t want to get to deep, he should’ve kept digging in by asking more questions.

Exactly only reason I watched

Clickbait

He said soaked in bleach is bs. We already knew that though.

Well, he "was around for a lot of it."

look into it

BILLY Corgan is probably one of the biggest Douchebags ever in history besides Dave grohl

@Bekah 100% She fucked Billy on Kurt's 27th birthday

Jimmy Q Jones why the fuck do you think Dave Grohl is douche

Who asked

Damn, ah well this seems like a very touchy subject so I won't press you for information but I will absolutely take your word for it, just like Mr. Corgan

BUT WHAT ABOUT ANDY KAUFMAN!?!?!?!

Ya i was around for a lot of that stuff before during and especially after. But im not going to say anything either. I just want you to know that

ya man i was there too, and let me talk about it, and tell you that the facts are wrong... but actually i dont want to talk about it, other than what i just talked about, ...regarding it....

My dude... Awesome episode.

Mario Rodriguez it really is

I like your statement

Yes!

i love you

Aleksi Suuronen haha. Yup I caught that too.

That was my first thought. I wonder if he used that word on purpose.

Omg murder confirm wow Courtney love we are coming for u bitch fuck u 🤘💪💪

They're cool now, they played together on stage recently...

@@TheGhostofgatsby It was pretty awkward & not very good, though. Billy acted kind of put off, especially when Courtney got down on her knees & was looking up at him in a sexual way. I'm a fan of Courtney/Hole, but that even made me a little uncomfortable.

Agreed. Like a fucking 16-year old trying to flirt.

I was thinking the same thing. Billy seemed like he was dying to talk about it but instead of asking questions Joe just kept saying "yeah, that whole Nirvana thing is weird"

I think they reached to an agreement about the topic’s questions before the interview just to fuck with the viewers.

Joe’s too experienced in conversation to fall for that ham handed bait. WTF could Billy know anyways, he wasn’t a part of Kurt’s life..

yes very disappointing

Aaron burchhard??

@@OlsenJustin that's correct!

Can you share some stories. Hopefully you still don’t live in Aberdeen

wow same last name and everything!! Share the stories pls

Damn Aaron is ur uncle?

I mean gnutella and piracy was pretty well underway that's not really profound

Hipsters 🤭 🙄

If you're still in awe of the ground billy Corgan walks on you're either a 14 year old or mentally one

@@TheLiam925 Nah Not in 1999. MP 3 and Napster came in 2005. So he predicted the Future 6 years before it happened and not Everybody had PC s to Burn CD s in 1999.

@@sheldoncooper8199 Napster came in 1999

"I know stuff" Nobody cares, Billy.

Austin Powers I swear disrespectful

Yeah "the main guy" was like, damn Joe it wasn't that long ago you don't even know Kurt's name?

haha i love Billy but he's so far from a good person.

He can't because he stuck his rotten pumpkin stick in Courtney's oozing death hole

He's a tepid, feckless shit who blows with the prevailing wind, not to mention a consistently mediocre stand-up who lucked into an entertainment career. I only ever listen to or watch his podcast when he has a guest I'm interested in hearing from.

Yep, he's a fake.

hah hah

@@tuanjim799 Super well said. Agreed.

Too many drugs mate. It’s called being a host

Andrew Cruz nah he’s actually spoken out against the movie a lot but I don’t think he’s seen it bc he might change his mind if he did. (Plus since billy dated Courtney I don’t think Joe would’ve thought Billy would have liked the movie)

@@rileytanner4476 Found the clown, it's you nigga.

@@Raven05R6 racist

Except he asked, "Did you watch that f'd up movie?"

@@rileytanner4476 everyone who was famous at the time dated courtney justabout.

I know right? I really don't think Joe is aware that Billy is Courtney's ex.

She also used to fuck Manson and Reznor

Actually I believe that she dumped billy for kurt lol

Cheating in that grunge scene is pretty much not a sin most were too Hooked on heroin to give a shit

I also remember Billy said Courtney Love is the worst human being he has ever met. But I think they are friends again.

lmao

LMAO now I cant unsee.

Hilarious

Don't lie you'd still hit it.

lol

Because Billy was good and big but he wasn’t as good or as big.

@@bridgelaurie9490 he clearly is a bit envious but on the other hand he's said on more than one occasion that Kurt is one of the greatest songwriters of his generation so he's not a complete dick about it

What's wrong with envy? If you don't envy people who do a great job of what you do, then you're probably not good at anything.

I don't know why he would be, Pumpkins were as big a band at their peak as Nirvana was at theirs.

@@rexx9496 thats just not true, nirvana ruled the world completely in their peak the pumpkins did

TheJD 🤣🤣

The pumpkins seemed to put a lot more effort then Nirvana and somehow Nirvana was more successful, but that’s all just a point of view and opinion really

@@media696 not true.

@@marshfriend You are right, HES THE ONE WHO BROUGHT IT UP. Nobody fucking asked him his opinion. These morons just try to create things for their agenda.

@@hippiecheezburger5457 Because looking like you put effort into something in the music world isn't cool. The trick is to put in effort but look like you are barely even trying.

Jefferson Steelflex stat

Jefferson Steelflex FUCKING YES

Jefferson Steelflex or at least kris novelselic.

ya feel kris would be a better guest

Jefferson Steelflex dave and Josh Homme

Nice to see you here. Have been binge watching your channel for the last 2 days.

Love you bro!

No, I just think Joe was too stupid to ask.

You are living in 3017

I love smashing pumkins and watermelons, it's so much fun to do that.

I love smashing pumpkins. It's pure nirvana.

DJ Cherry I miss the 90's

Same

TSP is better than nirvana

nah, I disagree that Gish is their greatest achievement, though it is one hell of a debut. Even Billy has been on record saying his lyrics on that album were subpar in comparison to albums like Siamese, Mellon Collie, and even some of the stuff on Adore. It's a great album, no doubt, but I believe albums like Siamese and Mellon Collie are far stronger lyrically and musically

@@walrusnation2496 Siamese Dream is still my favorite album by them.

They are the best

What year was this? If you don’t mine my asking

@@TicTacTone2 I think it was 1996.

That sounds awesome.

​@@RavynSkye617 was Billy bald or did he have hair?

Kurt killed himself, accept it already jesus

@@se7enthsamurai638 or...

se7enth samurai Little kids just don’t want to believe that their idol killed themself.

@@lithium84 i dissagree, i think people want to believe he killed himself because hes kinda like a mental health figure.

@@chrislancaster2462 No, people know he killed himself because that's what the hard evidence shows. The Courtney conspiracy holds 0 ground.

Thought the same

Yeap, in 92 they were both sold out at any venue worldwide.

September 23rd, 1991 at Axis in Boston is the show that he is referring to. One day before the release of Nevermind.

They played Axis together and then went over to Bill's Bar. It was like two weeks after "Smells Like Teen Spirit" came out and the night before Nevermind hit retail stores.

That was when Kurt met Mary Lou Lord and they started up their little things before he got together with Courtney in England a couple months later. Nirvana and Pumpkins played Twister with a jar of Crisco on stage before the show and Novoselic pissed off a couple townies by wiping the crisco off himself with an American flag that was nearby. They had to be guarded from the the goons who wanted to kick his ass. I don't know if it's just me but every time I hear Billy use that term "Pumpkins world" I cringe. He's the worst.

Layne Staley Aug. 22 1967 Shannon Hoon Sept 26 1967 Lots of others as well.

@@rsohlich1 Layne Stanley and Kurt Cobain also died the same day, just different years

Even more people of different ages died.

I was born 3 days after Kurt, yet I'm older.. which is sad

My dad (born January 23, 1967)

AMEN

Yup. It's dramatic of course like everything but it's based off actual recordings and Tom was there. Wonder what Dylan saw up at the greenhouse, maybe he seen Kurt? As when Tom went to see Dylan at the house, Courtney had him all coked up so he couldn't speak.

@@Cairo98_ not coke, heroin

I don’t think he paid attention.

Was about to write the very same thing, then saw that you had, & yes he has actual recordings of Courtney Love.

Joe brought it up. Lol

If you know things aren’t true...then why not refute them? If Tom Grants and experts are so wrong, why the hell wont anyone refute him, sue him? C’mon now.

@@RhachelSucks heh?

Yeah such bullshit, just say it if you “know” stuff

@@johnmark6628 sounded pretty clear to me buddy.

Chris Sousa no, u dumb ass

Actually looking into it further, it was done from the perspective of Detective Tom Grant which included recorded conversations he had during that time.

I know the scenes were recreated but I don't think it was to a point were it was out of context . We all know Kurt was in a bad spot and was out of his mind at the time . I think someone was in the loft with him trying to talk him out of it but Kurt did it . The way Krist and Dave talk about those time , Kurt's suicide was not a totally surprise

Same thing I said. He's not putting words into anyone's mouths that weren't there at the time. Every thing I remember in the movie he was involved in and present at the time. He also didn't seem to be seeking fame with it he just wants the truth out there

Could be but I have no clue. I haven't seen Soaked in Bleach in a long time but I do know they had recreations, did the one Courtney make have recreations?

I know man, during that whole 3 minutes I was questioning if Joe even watched the documentary

Does some guy not say she tried to pay him to murder Kurt and that guy got found dead on train tracks?

That's the way I remembered the Doc too thanks

@ThatDamnScottishGuy you're so right

@@613cmac Terry A Davis

Yeah and the giant elephant in the room , Corgan dated Love in the early 90s , before and after Cobain died. Sketchy shit

@ʀᴏᴛᴛᴇɴ ɪɴsɪᴅᴇ umm Celebrity Skin came out in 98, but I get what you're saying but still

Right, and of course they dont mention how montage of heck got this overwhelming publicity that overshadowed soaked in bleach, came out at the same time, a documentary that says, "hey, look at this drug addict before he killed himself", so actually nothing of substance just to bury the evidence for those who are already on one side of the fence or dont care to dig.

Exactly.. Would be easy to sue wouldn't it?

@@poobgooblin I liked the animations in it and the baby version of All Apologies but they really tried to play on your emotions with that one. Courtney's paws are all over it.

Dam right he does

Yes he was.

Ask me if you would like to know more. I never worked for the "Nirvana camp" and I'm not cutting the ankles of any clay (idle) idol. Believe me, the only "parochial hole" here was Courtney. No caveats necessary. There are three things that cannot be hidden long. The Sun, the Moon and the truth. #igivemealeonardcohenafterworld #yourleastfavouriteinsidesource

@@tamarafox1813 such as? What's your take?

I'm sorry, there is so much I have to say. Most can't be said here. It has been weighing on my mind since I last posted. All I can say now (with no fear of reprisal any more) is that a secret love should stay secret, even when that secret is wrapped in death. Courtney was not the only one with a lover (Pumpkin boy) but Kurt knew how to keep a secret.

Some of the recorded audio cuts out and then it’s just the actors talking. Don’t be so quick to defend Soaked in Bleach. It’s not a credible film. Can you really trust a movie about Kurt Cobain that’s narrative is “okay he talked and wrote about suicide but he was just joking around”

@@michaellawrence5387 lololol EVERY SINGLE BIT OF DIALOGUE IN SOAKED IN BLEACH IS FROM TOM GRANTS TAPES THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND THE INTERNET FOR YEARS. Do you think its more interesting to watch the conversations being reenacted or just listening to the tapes for the whole movie?

B Elston how long the recordings have been around is pretty irrelevant. It doesn’t make them “telling” of anything. If you think Kurt was murdered, you clearly didn’t listen to anything he said in his interviews.

You are not looking then, as there are so many excellent raw new original bands now i cannot keep up, it's like the 70s all over...its not mainstream, you are obv not looking, its all over...stoner psych heavy funk groove acid metal weird jazz prog etc soooo much stuff coming last few years...go dig bandcamp, blogs spotify etc for related bands of what you like and you will find a lifetime more. That is not even mentioning all the great obscure old heavy raw rock bands just coming out last few years, a million exclent obscure 70s bands waiting to be rediscovered few have heard. There has never been a better time for access to more music similar to what you like than now. Except its not mainstream. U gotta go look for it. But its out there. Its not gonna come to you. Go find it

@@bochris986 this. Also, an 8 yr girl can play eddie vanhalen problem. The bar is very high now.

You can piece together audio and video in a way that manipulates the viewer. If you don't understand this you shouldn't be allowed to leave middle school.

@@sabbracadabra8367 Okay, first off, your denigration is not welcome. Secondly, did Courtney Love--or anyone else in the movie for that matter--claim that her voice recordings in the documentary were fabricated? Because I don't remember any such claim being raised.

@@thaddiusglunt2424 I don't think anything is fabricated only the narrative.

@@thaddiusglunt2424 You know there's another movie that is basically the opposite story?

And the fact that it was based on the many, many hours of recorded phone calls and meetings with Courtney Love, Rosemary Carroll and Dylan. Tom Grants Tapes were used throughout the entire film. So what is joe Rogan talking about when he says it was made up? Did he really watch it or what? Moron

@@JFK-ir7yz Yeah, I hate joe in this clip. You can see him talking about the movie and as soon as he sees Billy pose an attitude of disapproval towards the movie, Joe gets on his side and acts like the movie is all bs too. I haven't seen the movie (will some time) but I heard that the evidence isn't just made up lol.

@@marc8828 That's because Rogan tends to be full of shit most of the time for like the last 8 years.

JFK35 517 moron? Don’t throw that word around when you don’t know either.. Soaked in Bleach plays audio clips but some of the stuff said by the actors, we still don’t really know if they said it because it cuts in and out. Soaked in Bleach is not a credible documentary at all. Soaked in Bleach is pretty much just “we know nothing about the heroin tolerance of a seasoned addict, nothing about the physics of where a shotgun shell could possibly eject. Kirk or whatever his name is talked about suicide but he was clearly joking. Kirk bought a gun and went to rehab and left right away, but we’ll show a bunch of video clips of him smiling and joking and here’s a bunch of times Courtney lied let’s concentrate on how weird Courtney is”

DavEyOne SlimObi Soaked in Bleach isn’t a credible documentary buddy. Go look up how even the people in it weren’t happy about how they were represented. Cobain talked about killing himself to more than 3 journalists. He brought up killing himself with a gun several times to Michael Azerrad. You really trust a documentary that ignores that and dismisses it?

September 23 1991 to be exact. At axis in Boston.

I literally read your comment 5sec before he did it.. just wow! Smh

He considers his 20’s as being a “kid”. That’s normal

@@jackjack3722 perhaps it's a stretch of the word for some people

Well Cobain was just a kid when they started the band.

I saw them about 5 years ago in Austin at the music hall. Best show I've ever been to. I ended up finding an HD recording from the show on youtube and extracted the audio, split it into tracks and made it into an album with the poster art for the album cover. It's one of my favorites to listen to still.

Said no D’arcy, ever.

@Careful Icarus even worse! Lol . I think I'd prefer Pavement...

@@justinanderson617callme Eh, learn to ignore his personality. Focus on the music.

Amen! Such a phenomenal musician, and scarily intelligent, but fuck me what an ego!

TestMeatDollSteak p

Yeah I agree, and everybody knows Kurt stole Courtney from Corgan and he was always upset about it. He's been protecting CL from the very first day after kurts "suicide".

The Lone Ranger -- Meh. I'd like to give Corgan the benefit of the doubt that he'd pipe up if he knew or even suspected that Courtney was directly involved in Kurt's death. I've read the entirety of Tom Grant's website, as well as his "Cobain Case Study Manual", and have also read the _Love & Death_ book by Ian Halperin, and have watched the Soaked in Bleach film. I've also read several of the Nirvana bios and have been kind of obsessively absorbing all of the Nirvana-related info that I can get my paws on since 1991. I'm only putting that out there to make it clear that I'm familiar with the conspiracy claims. From everything I've read and watched, including Corgan's interview here, I think it's likely that Courtney was cheating on Cobain while she was married to him. Everett True, who was friends with both Kurt & Courtney and who wrote his own bio on Nirvana, seemed to think so, too. I suspect that's what Billy was alluding to when he said, "I was there for the before, a little bit during, and there for the after", but I could be reading too much into it. If she did cheat on Kurt with Billy, though, then Billy might simply have agreed not to go public with that info.

@@theloneranger9973 Imagine being a rock star and being able to get damn near any woman you want and they're fighting over acne-faced Courtney. SMH....

I'm dead again 😂

Sheeeeit

Awesome observation! Hilarious!

I thought it was Dana White interviewing himself.

VEGAN GRUB holy fuck that’s funny 😆

He probably meant post bleach/pre nevermind.

I came to the comments section for this exact reason. Nirvana in 92 = sold out shows

Probably 1990

in 92 nevermind had only sold 3 million. very easily could of not been sold out everywhere.

Probably 89 , 1992 was the height of their fame

i thought frances owned all of that now?

not even true. he doesnt need Courtney's money.... what a joke.

Stop making shit up and spreading false information

​@@julieanderson5884 Howard Stern threw out some figure in 2013 interview and Courtney said that 100 million is a little low, so maybe she is around 150 million, and Frances has 40 % of publishing money. Krist Novoselic and David Grohl own half of merchandise money, and Kurt owned publishing. Courtney also mentioned that she sold 25 % of her share (I guess that was publishing).

@@julieanderson5884 she has like 70%

supreme god leader great Pepe the Frog Lmao. I definitely see the fat joe resemblance!

that's it exactly! lol

and someone upstairs said that he looks like kirsten dunst

My guess is the man now has a wife and kid, he doesn't want to mess with the dark people involved. Soaked in Bleach and the like seem like a lot of misdirection.

how is it censored? i didn't hear any bleeps

About what? Conspiracy that the gubmn killed Cobain? Anyhow, looks like Billy's been eating good :D

Billy was fooling around with Courtney at the time and has been implicated in some of the conspiracies alongside Courtney.

kurt wanted to leave Courtney and she cheated on him with billy

Then it wasn’t 1992 like Corgan said because Nevermind came out in 91.

Youll never hear the truth outa him.. screwing Courtney love before during and after Nirvana.. wouldnt play the same shows as nirvana either.. hes from chicago what do ya expect?

Well i love Fugazi

Motorcycles don't HAVE doors

@@jasonpeng33 fugazi are awesome

I was 12 and it scared me, loved the singles, though, and love it now

@@jlouis4407 Ha, cool! I was about 12 too man. My late brother was always ahead of the curve when it came to music. I remember he coming home one day with 'Nevermind' in hand. We played it over and over. Even used it to get us off to sleep at night :-)

Same !

@@Jman7phxaz - awesome! The good oul days my friend :-)

She ought to smash your smashing pumpkins..lol

Mayonnaise is an underrated classic

One of the most boring bands of the 90s How can you do it?!

Those are my two favorites from Siamese Dream too

Soma and mayonnaise is my favorite breakfast

exactly

Wow your generation really is the worst one. First off, Billy does know a lot because he was involved, and he probably can't talk about it publicly because that would be wrong and maybe illegal. Anyone with a brain should understand that. The worst thing about your post was that last paragraph though. You really think film and audio can't be put together in a way to manipulate the viewer? If you don't even have a middle school understanding of the world then you shouldn't be posting comments. Stay in school.

@@sabbracadabra8367 damn what should do then if we were born in this generation, kill ourselves?

@@morallita Lol no you should try to do better. And tell everyone to stop using the internet. This place was supposed to be factual!

@@sabbracadabra8367 how?

Bro, highly under rated comment. You deserve accolades

Snaggle gang

It is nonsense.

That private investigator Courtney hired is a complete and utter moron.

With audio recordings of her lying and their own attorney thinking she was involved.

Soaked in Bleach in a nutshell is just “Kurt was just joking all the times he talked about killing himself”

Michael Lawrence People do talk about doing it but don’t take action all the time. That’s not a good reason by itself, and is exactly why a depressive makes for an easy target.

Colin W Trent Reznor had a go too, she got around.

Dale Chalfont didn't know that but not surprised

Rumour is Hole's first 2 albums? ghost written by Kurt. After his death the band's sound changed and was rumoured Corgan ghost wrote that record with Celebrity Skin and those glam type hits. This is of course a rumor from magazines and shit pre-internet explosion.

Hench Bawse it would make a lot of sense

There is an interview with Courtney somewhere on KZfaq where she says that Billy Corgan wrote the riff to "Celebrity Skin."