Billy Joel talks about some of his past\present band members and producer Phil Ramone Band Members\Producer: 00:00 - Doug Stegmeyer 00:48 - Mark Rivera 01:22 - Phil Ramone
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@jasonwhite74525 жыл бұрын
Oh well Liberty,Doug,Russell And Ritchie will live on through the classic albums! Nice to have that little time machine called vinyl!
@hekkoCZ3 жыл бұрын
Liberty, Russell, and Ritchie are now playing as Lords of the 52nd Street.
@PianoGuitarVocal4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful talk about these great musicians!
@JeremyWittes5 жыл бұрын
Plus Billy Joel lied when he said Doug worked with him till he died. He was not on the Storm Front album.
@bherber7 жыл бұрын
Of course Billy doesn't mention why he ditched Doug & Liberty.
@TheSkirvo9 ай бұрын
Well it's none of our business
@bherber9 ай бұрын
@@TheSkirvo - Sounds like you're not really a fan...
@TheSkirvo9 ай бұрын
@@bherber excuse me yes i am
@bherber9 ай бұрын
@@TheSkirvo - Get real douche... Billy should have let Liberty know exactly why he was firing him. That's why you had the lawsuit.. It was inevitable. Liberty contributed massively to all the albums over the years, and then coldly fired in 2006 without even a word.
@isabella-bo8pt3 ай бұрын
i mean, he has a point, like it's not our place to be all up billy's business. you can still be fan without knowing every single small thing you could know about the artist. you can still love billy without knowing his personal business. what billy makes music, and i think we all know that he doesn't want drama on his personal life. i understand he is very much so is famous, but i bet he doesn't like people only feeding into him js bc of drama, cuz it doesn't feel good, that's for sure. i am not saying in any way whatsoever that you aren't a real fan of billy, just please check your privilege, and don't say 'oh, you aren't a real fan bc you said that it's not our place for billy to just open himself up and spill everything there ever is to know about Doug and liberty (and ofc richie, Russell, david, dave lebolt, George simms, and many more)' bc its just not reasonable or even appropriate for the situation at hand. billy even said in a river of dreams interview that he didn't want to tear himself open and let the world see him and everything about him. i do respect both of your opinions, however i feel like @bherber, you are not being very reasonable. i do respect you, however, like i said, you don't need to be in his business to be a fan of billy joel. I'm very sorry if this sounded disrespectful l.
@johnflanagan91537 жыл бұрын
Billy, maybe this age-related memory loss, but I think you're just trying to come off as a good guy, but you FIRED Doug in 1988! Stegmeyer died in 1995.
@johnprunier90447 жыл бұрын
He screwed Doug over big.
@officergregorystevens57657 жыл бұрын
Billy is a jerk. Was with me and my band until he died... I think he said "with me and my band" to cover both of those, as to be able to say he wasn't lying.. if someone questioned him about it, anyway. Stegmeyer was also the best bass player to ever work with Joel, and he couldn't appreciate that. I"m so sick of Billy Joel it's not funny. Been a fan since like age 4 and I'm 28 now.. enough. Enough stories about him snubbing people after cutting them off in line at a deli, and stuff like that. the guy is a jerk.
@officergregorystevens57657 жыл бұрын
It's also egotistical of him to say that Doug used his (Billy's) left hand [on the piano] to form his bass lines... no way. Listen to the fills he does in Scenes From an Italian Restaurant. Billy did not write those, Doug did. Are they the greatest bass fills ever? No, not really.. but they're great. And they were not just following Billy's left hand. Billy is pretty lazy with his left hand on the piano actually.
@bherber7 жыл бұрын
Yep, it's too bad Billy doesn't have the guts, nor will he ever be pressed to admit why he fired Doug & Liberty. At least Liberty fought back & sued him for a settlement. The only unfortunate thing is that we will never learn the details now since there was a non-disclosure agreement signed so Liberty can't speak about it. Supposedly Billy did give Liberty some reasons privately about why he did what he did, but Lib can't tell anyone.
@mikedegregorio91136 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't judge him too harshly. After getting vamboozled out of all those millions by his ex- brother in-law, he probably got trust issues so loyalty became a virtue he could no longer maintain. It's Ego or you-go but we both can't remain.
@hubbell6276 жыл бұрын
Doug died because he killed himself because you fired him.
@soeffingwhat6 жыл бұрын
+hubbell627 I don't think its all that simple. He was fired in 1988 and killed himself in 1995, 8 years later. In between that time he did a lot of other work with other musicians and stars. I would guess he suffered from depression too.
@natfingerboard6 жыл бұрын
He did suffer from depression, but it is well known that being fired from the band is what caused his pain to begin with, and then 8 years later he couldn't take it anymore.
@soeffingwhat5 жыл бұрын
@@natfingerboard Yes that is true. Had it not been for the depression though I feel he could definitely have moved on and still been around today, its said he did try hard. Russell Javors was let go the same way and at the same time too, he's still going on, though he probably did his own thing more so than being a hired musician.
@kenmario62845 жыл бұрын
When Doug was inducted into the Long Island Hall of Fame, his mother had very warm and positive things to say about Billy Joel. I was there, but I think there is footage is on KZfaq. That makes me think that it wasn’t quite as simple as you’re making it sound.
@vinnykster4 жыл бұрын
Depression was only a symptom. The cause for the depression was being fired from BJ's band.
@chrisnolan56074 жыл бұрын
There is no mention here about what happened to the lead guitarist David Brown?
@alanfrehley13733 жыл бұрын
He's almost been airbrushed from Billys history. No links to him at all. He was an awesome guitarist, particularly on the Songs from the Attic live album.
@annabasta27796 жыл бұрын
Liberty DeVitto??
@vinnykster4 жыл бұрын
IKR?? And Russell too! Wow!
@SuperQdaddy3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you have to move on...be grateful you got lucky
@stuartmcnair27833 жыл бұрын
Liberty was let go because Billy and Danny Korchmar wanted to go in a different direction for the River of Dreams album. Liberty didn't agree with that direction. In an interview I saw Liberty a few years later he sad " I now realize It says Billy Joel on the Album cover not Liberty Devitto."
@Matsi9903 жыл бұрын
Joel didn’t invite Liberty on his 2006 tour bc they had legal problems. So at this point Mark is the only old member that is still with Billy.
@kevinobrien96262 жыл бұрын
Hmm, there may have been a personal issue too. It was hinted that he played a role in the demise of Billy's first marriage.
@creates1005 жыл бұрын
not sure why people think that he had to work with all these guys forever. the fact is theres a pecking order in the music business. billy joel was the singer/songwriter/star. everyone else was the backing band. even in bands theres a pecking order and people are kicked out of bands. at some point billy joel decided to stop working even with Phil Ramone. its good for a muisician to change to go for a different sound and that means sometimes you have to get new musicians and producers. otherwise things get stale
@howtodoitdude16622 жыл бұрын
Correct 100%, why does everyone else make it sound worse than it is? They were all going through changes in their lives including Billy. He decided to move on, does he have to hold everyone’s hand? There’s a reason band members are called Hired Guns.
@officergregorystevens57657 жыл бұрын
Mark has an annoying cocky stage presence and personality, too... man I sound cynical tonight but it's how I feel about these issues.
@bherber7 жыл бұрын
Chris, I actually think Mark is great. Not cocky at all. That said I am mad at Billy for ditching Doug & Liberty.
@bherber4 жыл бұрын
@William W. Campbell-Shepherd IX - Nope, Doug was dumped right after the Russian tour in 1987. He along with Russell Javors got no word from Billy. They just weren't invited back for the Storm Front tour in 1989. Billy owed those guys at least a face-to-face meeting. Then the same thing happened with Liberty where he just wasn't invited back in 2006. If Billy's gonna let someone go, he owes them a face-to-face meeting to let them know and give them a reason. If he can't do that, then he's got no balls.
@thomaspirrone86163 жыл бұрын
almost unbearable to watch... great sax player... but the ego overwhelms the stage....
@peterjennings71376 жыл бұрын
Everyone trashing Billy Joel about "ditching" these old band members needs to take a seat. These guys would be hauling trashing on Long Island right now if it wasn't for Billy Joel...he made their careers as musicians plain and simple. No one would be listening to this dialogue or even whispering their names if it wasn't for him. Its Billy Joel's band and he can fire and hire whoever he wants, especially when its at the fan's sake of keeping things fresh.
@electricmohair6 жыл бұрын
i mostly agree, however i do think he should have told them that he was going in a different direction, rather than letting them find out on their own. i think that's the part they were really upset at, not actually being fired.
@soeffingwhat5 жыл бұрын
@Peter Jennings as the song says you may be right lol,.. how you put it is a bit crude but you may be right. However it was the way it was done, that's why people are trashing Joel. Also though was it was Billy Joel's band, business and touring wise, it was always made to feel like it was a "package", ie Joel and all the guys equally, some of them got commissions on the songs. He stopped that after all the shit with his manager. If he'd let them know in advance then it might have been easier to deal with. Still hard, but that extra consideration would have helped in the long run. Russell Javors the Guitarist handled it I think, but Doug Stegmeyer, the bass player, found it much much harder. Plus he might have had other issues too.
@bherber5 жыл бұрын
Peter - Loyalty is a 2-way street. A lot of the Billy Joel classic hits are due to these guys. Yeah, if you have the songwriting credits, you can dump whoever easily like a coward, but I'll go toe to toe with you any day on Billy knowledge & his band. Btw, is Peter Jennings a fake name? I'm just thinking the ABC reporter so seems fake.
5 жыл бұрын
Not true, they were fantastic musicians on their time, they had probably success in another scenario
@robertomonanni8014 жыл бұрын
As others said, it's the way he released them, without even a phone call, letting them discover the whole thing listening to the radio!!! They had also been friends, not just colleagues. This, to me, it's an awful behaviour! In Billy Joel: the definitive biography, in the chapter dedicated to Doug, it's said the poor guy faced depression (although worsened by drinking). If you know a band member is depressed, I'd assume you'd try to find a gentle way to tell him he won't be part of your next record. And, on a side note... Doug was dismissed for a bassist who lasted just one tour and 2 records and I can't see what improvement he gave to the songs he was involved in.
@SuperQdaddy3 жыл бұрын
He played with original band for 30 years...what he's doin now is just covering the nostalgia....i get it...some folks dont..lets move on kids
@hirawstra8edge137Ай бұрын
billy talks so nicely about many of these days, but he fired them horribly never to speak to them again.
@LuciusEh2 жыл бұрын
I love Billy’s music. But when I heard about him just leaving his old band in mud, it made me so mad. Billy has no respect for anyone but himself. Doug died because he killed himself because YOU ghosted them and you have this to say? How about an apology, some empathy?
@howtodoitdude16622 жыл бұрын
Don’t jump to conclusions without all the facts. Billy declined to work with the Beatles Producer because he wanted to keep his band members. If he was shellfish, he could have dumped them then! They are hired musicians!
@TheSkirvo9 ай бұрын
Why does Billy have to Work with the same musician his whole career ? No musician does that. Billy felt the need to work with other musicians because it would make the older material which he'd been playing for over 10 15 years have a newer fresher sound . Every artist wants to work with different musicians through their whole career . It's got nothing to do with selfishness. You would understand that if you were a musician
@Billyboy9398 ай бұрын
Billy is lying, he fired Doug years before he died.