The songwriting duo Billy Steinberg and Tom Kelly tell about their first big hit: 'Like a virgin' by Madonna. A short documentary by Top 2000 a gogo from 2018 (Dutch Public Television).
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@Cl0ckcl0ck3 жыл бұрын
"You meet a lot of people on the way up. Don't fuck with them because you meet them again on the way down." -Ozzy Osbourne.
@williamdrijver41413 жыл бұрын
Great episode! I never even thought about who had written that song.....I do not like Madonna as a person, but it's an absolute killer track! Stood the test of time, fabulous eighties intro, love it!
@rickshearer3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know the history of that song...I've heard it for the very first time...like a virgin! 😎
@MichaelDavitt12 жыл бұрын
Madonna! I had a friend Jay that was a manager at an upscale Hotel in Mpls. Madonna was in town for a concert for her “like a virgin tour”. Apparently she had been booked into another hotel which she did not like. So her whole group came into my friends’ hotel late afternoon asking for the penthouse suite. He explained that was not possible as it was booked already. He offered her one of their bridal suites which was quite expensively decorated. They were taken up to the suite and Madonna said it was perfect! Star struck Jay sent flowers up to the suite, wine and chocolates. After working the night shift he went home to sleep, about 10 am he was awoken by his supervisor and told to get back to work right away. Back at the hotel all the staff was on edge, Jay wasn’t sure what was going on. His extremely red faced boss took him up to the room, to show him the destruction. On every surface, walls ceiling, mirror and doors was written in heavy black magic marker “THANK YOU JAY THANK YOU JAY THANK YOU JAY OVER AND OVER AGAIN” it must have taken hours to write everywhere. Jay was asked for his ID and keys and marched off the property. It took him more than 6 months to get another job. His car was repossessed, never the same happy guy after that. I saw him smash a radio once when one of her songs came on . . .
@marguskiis7711 Жыл бұрын
Never say a star you adore them. Look at them cool and reserve way, say something cold and polite and they respect you. OR act like you know them personally for decades. Stars see so much stupid adoration so they are just fed up.
@Joey.Alvarado18 күн бұрын
Is this for real?
@kresobernardic53663 жыл бұрын
Is is unbelievable this channel has only 69K subscribers at this moment. It's a true gold.
@IncApu20253 жыл бұрын
Agree. True gold......
@stuartsutherbaker3 жыл бұрын
Love these inspirational mini docs. Love it when they talk about the equipment/instruments used and the recording process.
@gabe_s_videos3 жыл бұрын
Like a surgeon, HEY!
@hashtag4153 жыл бұрын
* sturgeon Caviar for the very first time.
@del-marmare16463 жыл бұрын
Cut for the very first time 😄 weird al...
@Dreamskater1003 жыл бұрын
@@hashtag415 🤣 Best comment!
@sundet813 жыл бұрын
How cool to see these two together again after so many years.
@bjpastoor3 жыл бұрын
History always catches up, be a nice person or be Madonna.
@gerryowen42003 жыл бұрын
I’d rather be multimillionaire Madonna
@optimisticoutreach12363 жыл бұрын
Tom Kelly has a great voice...he has backround vocals on soooo many great songs. Amazing guy...
@agentbillstoll6235 Жыл бұрын
True. He did some for Rick Springfield & Sammy Hagar. Very nice.
@optimisticoutreach1236 Жыл бұрын
@@agentbillstoll6235 he is all over Rick's 80's stuff...Sammy recommended him when Rick recorded a Sammy-penned song
@Heartboy10313 ай бұрын
I like his backing vocals on Heart's "Alone" & "You Ain't So Tough" from their Bad Animals album in 1987.
@NVRAMboi3 жыл бұрын
Never cared for her as an artist or for her persona. Thanks for adding to the pile of reasons. She's lucky you guys met her.
@alinaveed203 жыл бұрын
Lol. She's a billionare. Go cry back in your hole. @StooB
@alinaveed203 жыл бұрын
Hey NVr, but people care for her. That's the difference between you and her. Millions of people love her and buy her music. Who cares for you? Not more than 5 or 10 people I'm guessing. Even that's a stretch. You not caring about her is irrelevant since she outnumbers you by MILLIONS in the amount of people who love her. So go back to your hole.
@NVRAMboi3 жыл бұрын
@@alinaveed20 You overestimate my popularity. She's still an exceedingly wealthy numpty with unremarkable talents.
@NVRAMboi3 жыл бұрын
@@alinaveed20 For all that money she's got you to defend her on the internet. You're right, she wins.
@alinaveed203 жыл бұрын
She is the most talented and hardworking woman in the business. The numbers prove that. The fact that you chose to ignore every single positive thing I wrote about Madonna and continue to blab against her proves to me you must be 12. I do not defend her for her money. I defend her for her artistic integrity. I defend her for her struggle. I defend her for her freedom of expression. I defend her for her fight against wrong. I defend her for her determination. I defend her for her strength as a woman and as a human. I defend her for at the end of the day she is just a little girl who lost her mother at 5! I defend her because I love her. I know her life story. Go do some research before you use those filthy fingers of yours to type such hateful words. The Hate is real. lmao. Keep wasting your time and energy. While she sits there enjoying life. What a pathetic loser. You truly must be a disgrace to your parents. In fact they must be just as hateful as you. Go worship Satan kid. @@NVRAMboi
@irvyne61113 жыл бұрын
Madonna’s more recent music career has only gone to highlight how lucky she was to have some amazing songwriters creating her early hits. She sure ain’t got ‘em now! (Having said that, I did think Ghost Town was a weird return to form for her. Flash in the pan though)
@MoneyKateOlsen2 жыл бұрын
She's written 95% of her hits, excluding this one, Material Girl, and a few others. 😂😂
@tysonb3568 Жыл бұрын
Shes had a career going on 40 years….😂 WTF are you talking about?? All of her recently released albums have been #1s. The new young girls today ie: Demi, Miley, Christina Aguilera sont have that. Lmao
@Markb24773 жыл бұрын
Great episode, never knew who written it. They gave her a huge hit, she could have at least be polite and respectful.
@PowerRangersFanAntiDinoFury2 жыл бұрын
I know, the song was about feeling clean again. She's obviously not a sweetheart.
@bsquared46043 жыл бұрын
she must have thought she did them a favor. they sure wrote some great hits!
@PeterJochems3 жыл бұрын
The demo sounds like a Prince song, in the vein of 'I wanna be your lover', quite cool actually. The combination of the Linn and the high pitched voice I think.
@Spineloro3 жыл бұрын
I hope she’s been grateful afterwards... sweet story, sweet guys❤️✨
@1972LittleC3 жыл бұрын
Don't bet on it: she's the polar opposite of Dave Grohl.
@Khaleesi_Of_Kittens2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, right. According to Madonna, she's "done it all on her own."
@tubes-lut3 жыл бұрын
Great story, heard a few like that about Madona.
@sinistershredder3 жыл бұрын
This was uploaded on my birthday
@miknes123453 жыл бұрын
They wrote her breaktrough hit that made her a superstar - and this is how she thanks them....
@gerryowen42003 жыл бұрын
Not her breakthrough hit she had already achieved global success with holiday and lucky star
@miknes123453 жыл бұрын
@@gerryowen4200 It's true that she had already entered the charts with these songs, however it was Like a Virgin made her a household name.
@gerryowen42003 жыл бұрын
@@miknes12345 entered the global charts. But yeah she didn’t have to be rude but she is. It’s a good story though.
@miknes123453 жыл бұрын
@@gerryowen4200 I think it is rather symptomatic of her character
@gerryowen42003 жыл бұрын
@@miknes12345 possibly, she’s def not a humble person. I suspect she had moved on by that point. I think her attitude would of been that she made them a lot of money from the song. However I don’t agree with her protective tough exterior. She’s Is known to be tough and rude.
@chris1978nl3 жыл бұрын
You should see the websites of these guys and see wich songs they made and for who... Amazing! Madonna should be very ashamed to treat these guys so snobbish... She ows her carreer to them.
@IrnBruNYC3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I did not think it was possible for me to dislike Madonna as a person more than I already do.
@SpaghettiKillah3 жыл бұрын
Yep, me too 😂😂 She was super lucky they threw so many talented musicist at her. Including the guy who was working with Michael Jackson for the Bad album (he did Love to Tell)
@KeyLimeLemon4U3 жыл бұрын
Word
@Dr.AnonymousPro3 жыл бұрын
That's not really fair, you have to hear her side of the same story. It's not like she's never thanked them in writing. As did Nile Rodgers by the way. And I know from being around her during a tour that she was *literally* being stalked about every other 10 minutes by someone needing to meet with her back in '84.
@jochemjonker33623 жыл бұрын
@@Dr.AnonymousPro still she showed a big disrespect to these 2 songwriters. And they both are sensible and good hearted humans.
@lauraestrada76113 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way!!! What an awfull ungratefull person. Billy & Tom....wonderful!!!
@johna99043 жыл бұрын
thats friggin great
@harrynac60173 жыл бұрын
She must be having a hard time in here bathtub now, singing to her brush.
@loramatildak52003 жыл бұрын
Her last tour a few years ago was sold out everywhere and number one tour from everyone else that year... you don't know what you are saying.
@matthewfarina8587 Жыл бұрын
How many times has Madonna quite literally bit the hand that fed her? I adore her as a musician and her music has been a blessing but she sometimes doesn’t know how to treat people very well
@tijnonline68073 жыл бұрын
The intro was inspired by I Can't Help myself by The Four Tops.
@Joey.Alvarado18 күн бұрын
Yes we all knew that
@vahidmirkhani2 жыл бұрын
"Can't you hear my heartbeat?" Well, no, cause you have none. 😐
@fluorosco2 жыл бұрын
I'm done with her now. Billy Steinberg and Tom Kelly wrote Eternal Flame for The Bangles and Alone by Heart ❤ And True Colours by Cyndi Lauper. I love these two
@tylerthompson1842 Жыл бұрын
And “I’ll stand by you” the pretenders
@donniemoder14663 жыл бұрын
Great story, thought it was going somewhere else.
@jameson69303 жыл бұрын
I already heard a story similar to that. But I feel sad for them
@mooghead3 жыл бұрын
I have the full 24 track multi track files for this song.. happy to share...
@kwojcik902 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob would you share With me?
@iggytse3 жыл бұрын
I was in the 5th grade when this song was top of the charts. Had no idea what the lyrics were about. I asked my sister who was 3 years older what a Virgin was. I don’t think she explained it to me. I was guessing it had something to do with the Virgin Mary. A guy a school just said it was someone who hasn’t had sexual intercourse and even that explanation went over my head.
@Tom.Livanos3 жыл бұрын
I was in 5th grade as well:) I have a sister 3 1/2 years older than me but I have no recollection of asking for an explanation. I remember not liking Madonna that much and this video may go some way as to why i.e. she was self-absorbed. They are nice tunes though and 'Like a Prayer' (1989) started to turn things for me (but not the music video). Thanks for sharing. Nice to take a trip down 'Memory Lane'.
@kerryn67143 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable story. It’s no surprise that Madonna acted like a diva but I’m sure it was all worth it 😂
@KeyLimeLemon4U3 жыл бұрын
“... Madonna acted like a bitch…”, there, fixed it for ya.
@augustdaye27462 жыл бұрын
Release the demo!
@dBREZ3 жыл бұрын
WHAT! That Bit......
@da5idnz3 жыл бұрын
ps, I like Tom Kelly's stuff - like he wrote for REO Speedwagon, etc
@kikidee32043 жыл бұрын
It just striked me how much Madge looks like gloria swanson in that video im ready 4 my close up stylee lol she fucking is her spit
@alecksfawth3 жыл бұрын
Need that demo version
@da5idnz3 жыл бұрын
I bet Warren Beatty thought the song was about him.... 😉
@RickCostello3 жыл бұрын
Haha
@Heartboy10313 ай бұрын
She didn't start dating him until 5 or 6 years later. She was married to Sean Penn between that song and Warren Beatty.
@da5idnz3 ай бұрын
@@Heartboy1031 Right. But I was kinda being knowingly sarcastic, being that that Carly Simon song "You're So Vain" was about Warren Beatty (most likely). To explain is to kind of kill the joke tho.
@LouieLouie33 жыл бұрын
Throw some Tony Thompson (Chic) drums on there and hell yeah!
@richalderson60692 жыл бұрын
Madonna gives "shiny and new" meaning to term "not being beholden to any man" by not being the least bit grateful for the song that propelled her into the stratosphere.
@leokimvideo3 жыл бұрын
Would be a great Beach Boys song
@justinofhudson3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it would great , if anyone could believe they aren’t all STILL virgins that is !
@sundet813 жыл бұрын
I believe Tom Kelly was offered to be in the Beach Boys touring band in the mid-70s when he was playing in Dan Fogelberg's band (which released a couple of records on their own as Fools Gold). He turned them down though, but he later worked with Gary Usher.
@BTFOOMNY3 жыл бұрын
That's it? Where is the rest of the story?
@pokerci553 жыл бұрын
in 2008 as a huge fan i went to her concert in amsterdam arena after waiting for 3 hours she came on stage and starting playback her songs i was so disappointed ....i believe these guys she has no feeling with her fans
@thelolguy0072 жыл бұрын
Nice guys and wow, what a song to kickstart someone’s career. Madonna on the other hand ……
@Little-Dude2 жыл бұрын
Yikes at the saltiness in the comments. Imagine thinking Madonna is the same person she was 30+ years ago, a time in which she admitted she was a much more selfish & rude person. Billy and Tom are fabulous songwriters and made a great hit. It's too bad they had a bad experience with her back then.
@JoeHuman3 жыл бұрын
Nobody tell Mr. Brown.
@lemazingkingdom43183 жыл бұрын
To quote the wonderful Patti LuPone: “Madonna is a movie killer. She’s dead behind the eyes. She cannot act her way out of a paper bag. She should not be in film or onstage. She’s a wonderful performer for what she does, but she is not an actress.”
@sandervanduijvenbode55413 жыл бұрын
Great story... and Madonna proves once more what a knob she is.
@viniciusfranca23053 жыл бұрын
Do the same with Eternal Flame, please!
@Top2000agogo3 жыл бұрын
That will be coming, we will make an 30 minute special about Steinberg and Kelly. It will air in The Netherlands in December and follow shortly on KZfaq!
@adammartin70073 жыл бұрын
@@Top2000agogo Excellent!
@PierreVonStaines3 жыл бұрын
Who would of thought Madonna was a diva? 🤔
@RemkoKaye3 жыл бұрын
Ik vraag mij wel eens af hoe het had geklonken als Michael Jackson het had gezonden. Whoooh
@sandervanduijvenbode55413 жыл бұрын
Michael only did virgins
@LucianoLopesLima2 жыл бұрын
2:18 Literally looks like Billie Jean 😂😂
@PinkPants3 жыл бұрын
You would have thought Madonna wrote this song herself
@johnpudil10833 жыл бұрын
Ok they got snubbed by maddona but how much royalties do they have 🤷♂️big$$$$
@VictorRochaGaming3 жыл бұрын
They made a ton of money in the industry.
@yorkshiremgtow17733 жыл бұрын
@@VictorRochaGaming Deservedly so.
@stevenponte66553 ай бұрын
ohhh poor Billy!!
@ArnoldVeeman3 жыл бұрын
Wow 🥺 . . . That's how you get treated after writing a smash hit? That's insane! I made a cover, also for fun purposes, of this song in the style of Type o Negative you may want to check out. It's on my channel somewhere. Keep it up guys, you did a wonderful job, as you probably already know 👌🏾🤣
@nickilston17633 жыл бұрын
And then what........ Would so love to hear how they proposed the song to her
@zakit3 жыл бұрын
Me too. That's an important part of the story. How did that happen?
@davidram95113 жыл бұрын
I think, they never met her, after the success of the song they finally met her and that’s the story they are telling ,
@davidram95113 жыл бұрын
@@zakit that was the first time , (meeting her) after the success they finally met her and that’s what she says
@edburck13 күн бұрын
They likely didn't. They probably were working with a publisher who pitched it to a number of artists and Madonna / her people optioned it to record. That's why he'd been waiting so long to be able to meet her, as well as so crushed when he finally did.
@MrPetinne3 жыл бұрын
This video ruined reservoir dogs for me. Thx.
@gast1282 жыл бұрын
The story is better than the song. Never understood arrogance since unless you are Einstein or Feynman there is no reason to feel you better than the next person.
@sinwithsebastian3 жыл бұрын
Nice to know this song was written by a man. Such a shame madonna hasn’t progressed as a human being over the years as one of us would expect and hope. Anyways a great success for the guys a song writers, she doesn’t have to say a lot anyway
@maiph053 жыл бұрын
Curious why being written by a man makes this "nice" to know? Also, Madonna is a global philanthropist who's opened hospitals in poverty stricken African communities...and perhaps you have too. I think she's progressed far beyond how you personally might have "hoped".
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@atlantidaunderground3 жыл бұрын
It feels weird to know that Like a Virgin was actually written by men... and then they gave it to a woman (Madonna) to sing it...
@leopie_7773 жыл бұрын
Madonna is a diva but she gets the job done
@hiramdominicus7413 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😆🤣🤣🤣
@jaredbingham2293 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Herbert the pervert from family guy.
@pachuarg2 жыл бұрын
They didn't want a woman to sing that song, They offered the song to MJ but he refused. Madonna made it huge
@OMGWTFLOLSMH2 жыл бұрын
Yep, sounds like Madonna.
@jimbeam25013 жыл бұрын
Cee U Next Tuesday
@Zetep3 жыл бұрын
Imagine this song with a real singer, wow.
@Dr.AnonymousPro3 жыл бұрын
That's not really fair, you have to hear her side of the same story. It's not like she's never thanked them. As did Nile Rodgers by the way. And I know from being around her during a tour that she was literally being stalked about every other 10 minutes by someone needing to meet with her back in '84.
@franciscolaprida21333 жыл бұрын
This song catapulted her to mega stardom but it's overrated in my opinion and Madonna herself has written much better songs such as Like a Prayer, Live to Tell, Express Yourself, Vogue, La isla Bonita, Frozen, Into the groove, etc
@DorinMunteanu3 жыл бұрын
Define "better songs". But first check this song chart performance, critical reception and impact in the artist career.
@franciscolaprida21333 жыл бұрын
@@DorinMunteanu Better songs lyrically, vocally and musically, anyone with a good ear can notice that, Like a virgin is a great song but still bubblegum pop at best, Like a prayer and Vogue have had much more impact, chart success and critical acclaim
@loramatildak52003 жыл бұрын
These two guys do like they gave #Madonna the biggest hit... never liked particularly that song... holiday and lucky star were much much better.
@MegaSpiritualWarrior3 жыл бұрын
dis lieflike
@kiereluurs12433 жыл бұрын
'Wow, she's such a genius' So, didn't create anything of the song, just sang it in her ridiculous squeaking voice. And all teenage girls wanted to be her.
@bsquared46043 жыл бұрын
a whole has happened since 1984.
@aitortilla51283 жыл бұрын
It's always producers, engineers and writers who make these artists famous. I don't like divas.
@ChiIeboy Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Madonna is one.nasty.soul.
@fvdp47103 жыл бұрын
She cant sing, what a difference with the demo. Lol
@RolandDeschain13 жыл бұрын
True. Madonna has always had a flat, toneless voice.
@zakit3 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the demo wasn't sung by Madonna.
@brianruyack76323 жыл бұрын
@@zakit Probably by one of the guys.
@iismyalias3 жыл бұрын
The person on the demo was Kelly or Steinberg, not Madonna. But it is true that she is not the best vocalist.
@maiph053 жыл бұрын
The demo is thin, shakey, and awful. That's fine! They aren't singers. Madonna's vocals bring warmth and excitement, Nile's production slaps the song into the pop stratosphere. There is no Like a Virgin without Madonna---and it shot to number 1.
@rchrismeijer31832 жыл бұрын
Gay song for sure that demo🤣
@alinaveed203 жыл бұрын
Wow. The amount of hate in the comments just shows that indeed the only religion we practice as humanity is HATE. Firstly there are always 2 sides to a story. Secondly she didn't steal this song from them. They thought she was the perfect artist for recording this song. Which she clearly was. They did not receive a thank you? What are you living in DisneyLand? They get royalties from 'Like A Virgin' to this day. She did not have the time to sit down personally and call every other songwriter she worked with. This was the most famous woman on planet Earth at that time. Still is. She is worth more than what you or or your entire family could ever imagine to be, even if given an unlimited number of lifetimes. Queen Of Pop. Best selling female recording artist of all time, recognised by the Guinness Book Of World Records. Highest grossing tour by a female artist ever, Sticky and Sweet Tour 2008. According to Billboard, Madonna is now the first artist to collect 50 No. 1 hits on any chart. Millions of people love her. Millions of people love her music. She is not just a singer, dancer, writer, actor, performer, mother, an activist. She is a Phenomeon. Numbers don't lie. People do. Go back to your holes kids.
@sandervanduijvenbode55413 жыл бұрын
nutbag ⤴️
@alinaveed203 жыл бұрын
Lmao. Madonna is worth more than what you or your entire family could ever imagine to be even if given an unlimited number of lifetimes. Go back to your hole kid. @@sandervanduijvenbode5541
@sandervanduijvenbode55413 жыл бұрын
@@alinaveed20 so it's about money/wealth for you? That makes her a great person indeed. Bye nutbag.
@misophoniq3 жыл бұрын
You're on the wrong website, dear. Go back to your Madonna fansite if you don't like the comments in here.
@adamtier32632 жыл бұрын
They wasted there art on a horrible ungrateful person!
@666louis2 жыл бұрын
I choose to believe Quentin's origin story as he told it in the opening scene of "Reservoir Dogs". Way more fun ^.^ watch?v=J782jBp_pW0