he turned he didn't look and walked straight out, it could have been a lot worse..... basic road safety is your own responsibility

@@user-sf7kl9uh7k Its both their fault in my eyes. Van should've gone a lot slower, and the binman should've looked.

Twenty years from now RoboBinMan will terminate VanBot with its death ray.

​@@Glenn7719hmmm how about the van driver taking some consideration in how he drives yeah due care and attention and yeah the bin man should have also been aware this could happen at any time that you'll get some idiot in a van always be aware of your surroundings

​@@user-sf7kl9uh7kthe thing is he wasn't a pedestrian he is a worker the van driver was in the wrong and also the bin man needs to be aware of his surroundings as things like this happen I wouldn't say it's 50/50 more of 99/1 the van driver would probably get done for due care and attention and the bin man would probably get lesson in being more aware

How very perceptive.

Or not fast enough...if he'd put his foot down he'd have passed him before he stepped out. All perspective ;)

although i'm not in favour maybe 20 mph in built up areas isn't such a bad idea!!

He should have been patient and not attempted to overtake. There's barely enough room.

If the van driver went faster, be no accident,

And they get very well paid for doing less.

How about he LOOKS before moving out into oncoming traffic! This is a matter of H&S taught before he can go live at work for the first time! How can he of signed-off for his H&S training when he behaves in such an irresponsible manner? Truly avoidable had he adhered to right & proper H&S training & LOOKED! Speaking of looking: you can see at 12s into the video he just waltzes out into the road like a moron giving the van driver zero opportunity to react regardless of speed ergo the blame here stops with the binman!!!

They don't do it for nothing they get paid to do it ur trying to make them super heroes of wich they are not.

@@giggilboy4837without them there would be shite everywhere would you do it smelly filthy bins up at 4 in the morning no matter what the weather

@@andylaauk they should be well paid stinking filthy bins and working in all weathers up at 4 in the morning

@@user-sf7kl9uh7kok walk into the road without looking then blame the car when u get hit

Bin man didn't look before making his move but yeah van driver going way to fast pay there

Yeah you always give peeps space when passing them. They could be wearing earphones and step out. (know of two runners who've, separately, done this and died) Always expect the unexpected. One of the above drivers did time for drug driving... she ran out but he failed the blood tests!

@@user-sf7kl9uh7k Yeah... this guy will learn a lesson here as the injured guy wash working. His union may be the instigators pushing for an arrest and/or a lawsuit... or if the injured guy sues his employer, they'll sue the driver? I wouldn't like to pay their legal fees never mind his medical costs, etc. 👍 It's easier just to drive carefully. 🙂

That’s your typical van “driver” for ya!

Year bit difficult that one as he could have been saying get me up so he would know perhaps himself to what extent he was injured but of course fractures can have different degrees of pain levels, can't reaaly know for sure without sound but your correct it must be done with ease slowly checking rotation and mobility first. Lowish risk of neck coller here though due to mechanics of injury and witnised history of how it was obtained.

The Loader will be in shock, injuries can easily be masked by that.

Just doing a "See? He's fine, he's walking", so nobody calls the police

Always one

just what i was thinking , maybe he didnt see that bin wagon................

Yes, I think it is a tough job as well. This is clearly a very domestic street where you would not be expecting fast moving vehicles. Plus the lorry is noisy, you would not necessarily hear traffic coming. Cannot see how people are blaming the poor bin guy.🤕

@@simonjones7727 Thanks for the reply. I remember stupidly on occasions having a few beers night before and not been 100% aware. Such a horrible accident could have happened to me especially when you don't know the area when you just start the job.

Great pay though for this job.

@GodNotReal Like @storminboy I've done something similar in the past. The truck is noisy and you get into a sort of a rhythm. You're not really a pedestrian, you are a worker in that setting. The van driver must have seen the truck well ahead. He would know what goes on in and around a bin lorry. Bin men!

@@user-sf7kl9uh7k Yeah, I agree with that, mate. Van driver completely to blame 👍

But it not a Ambulance job ,he's conscious and on his feet ,get him a lift to AE if he needs it ,it's not life or death ,there is enough strain on the ambulance service.

@@sopissedoff The issue here is more a matter of covering yourself for possible future issues arising from the accident. Any whiplash or spine injuries may not be immediately apparent. If you are checked out by an ambulance crew, you can put that in an accident report for your employer. If you fail to report it, and did not get checked out, good luck getting you treatment paid for, if subsequently needed. Insurers will use any trick to avoid paying out. If you make a claim later, they can say the injury was from another cause, not the one you are claiming for. Regrettably it is all about the paper work. That, and some folks making claims for non-existent injuries, like the whip-lash claims that some law firms want you to make, even when you did not contact them! Ask a paramedic what they think after watching this clip. Also, who takes him to A&E? The Refuse Truck?

Get well soon bro

Quite right. The impact caused by the speed and the weight of that van was enough to cause serious injury; the guy should NOT have been moved before being checked. @@coniow

​@sopissedoff How do you know he's not seriously injured? The van did not just tap him. Should of stayed still and called an ambulance.

Spot on

A lesson for both parties

I think you are clearly laying the blame on the driver, which is right. The binman just needs to be more aware of his surroundings

Whilst the van driver is at fault it would have also been prevented if the bin man had looked before crossing the street. Some people won't value your life as much as you do, keep your eyes open. In the same vein though don't speed around where people are working like this.

​@@alexg1778 The only person at fault here is the idiot speeding past a stationary bin lorry.

😂

I bet you still use crutches for benefits 😂

@@pauliepaul3697 Your father should have used a latex sheath in the alley behind the nightclub . . .

You can tell us now, were you swinging off the wing mirror 😊

@@TRPGpilot And your mum should of swallowed 🤣🤡

Bin guy didn’t even look

​@@nickybayton8332okay? but the van driver shouldve seen him and slowed down, he was definitely going too fast. How do you not see someone wearing high vis?

@@nickybayton8332 How to tell me you suck at driving in one sentence.

@@allroundlad stop chatting farts.he works in a job where he’s constantly in the road.even if the van was going too fast if he’d of just had a quick look it wouldn’t of happened simple.

@@nickybayton8332 mate listen to what you're saying, if the VAN had slowed down it wouldn't have happened and he was looking in that direction, stop being ridiculous. If you're any decent driver, you should know it's your responsibility to see and react to hazards that's what good driving is, don't blame the pedestrian with his back turned.

Because he is stu pid

Bots all of you I know it

​@@user-sf7kl9uh7kit's not blaming him to say he should've looked. Yeah the van was going too fast but my man didn't even look before he stepped out.

@@user-sf7kl9uh7k so you slow down every time you pass someone on a footpath next to the road? And you ignored my point that he should've looked before stepping into the road. Two wrongs don't make a right.

totally agree. from someone rammed by one who after stopping said I cannot stop to give details as I will be late for school run.

The person that didn’t seem to learn, was the guy who walks out into traffic without looking left and right. Apparently he don’t learn that as a kid. There’s nothing to have to get away with, if people actually use their brain.

@@prog3142 i mean clearly your the type of person to go passed parked bus's etc were you have a huge blind spot at the maximum speed limit! some real smooth brain stuff right there man!, do you even remember taking your test? this van driver would be 500% fucked if the police comes and he wanted to press charges! its not even like he was approaching from the blind side so could clearly see the guy there but he needed to save that 60seconds and now he will be sat there for the next couple of hours! there is a reason that bin men straddling both sides of the road in less they letting people past and even then they will have someone give you a little nod or wave to say its safe! i donno man if people had to retake there test every 5 years they could get 70% of road users off the road cuz they dont know how to drive its crazy! recently did my class1 tests and the amount of people who try squeeze round the lorry or dont use indication etc etc its wild

​@@prog3142 You absolute tool. The van driver is speeding when the bin men are very clearly working in the road. And then he gets out and flips him over as if he hasn't already done enough damage. I hope he is prosecuted. And I hope you gain some education from my comment.

@@prog3142 he would have been hit regardless. Look at where he was standing while operating the machinery and then look at the gap between the van and the lorry. There is literally no way he wasn't going to get hit and he has a barrier to his other side stopping him from standing behind the lorry as you're not supposed to stand under the bins as they sometimes fall off the lifts.

@@anids1988 I mean clearly you’re the type of person that doesn’t know how to look left and right when walking into a part of the road where vehicles drive past. You’re trying to make comparisons between a bus and a bin lorry, where people do the job day in and out and are aware of motorists overtaking at all kind of speeds, as they’re constantly working in the road. The onus is on them to protect themself and not think because people shouldn’t be speeding I’m just going to walk out without looking lmao!! Because that makes total sense 🤣 The bin lorry left enough space for vehicles to pass, therefore he didn’t have to squeeze round any lorry. I guarantee you most bin men who use their brain don’t assume and actually look where they’re going and that’s the reason’s accidents like this aren’t common. Regardless if the driver was doing 5,10,15 or even 20mph, if he had CHECKED he wouldn’t have been struck by the van and that is the MAIN point simple minded people like you don’t seem to understand. I don’t think you should be doing your class 1 test, become a bin man instead. It’s a miracle how some people have lived as long as they have, when they think you can just walk out into traffic without looking and there will be no consequences 🤔 The bin man has learnt his lesson I’m sure and will look in future before risking his life again!

He wasn’t thinking

@@user-sf7kl9uh7k The last part must be a joke... he probably will have to retake his exam in a year or two and will be scot free, unfortunetly i think this is going to be the case :/

@@user-sf7kl9uh7k Hope so

spot on, except he did not use the pavement though!

@user-zc9xl4ne3u I think you’re spot on with why this is a poor method of working. You get frustrated drivers doing daft things, reduce working space for the bin guy who had hardly any space to turn and check for oncoming vehicles (he didn’t stand a chance to turn and see that van), and you put pedestrians at risk, as the impatient drivers speed past either closer to or on the path. It’s an interesting theory to protect workers and increase productivity but it has its own risks. Hope this feller recovers ok and the van driver learns from this experience.

... their bins ...

@@SpeccyMan thanks SpeccyMan

If they weren't lazily parked in the middle if the road it would have been safe to pass. These smelly council workers are supposed to be there working for the community, not obstructing it!

​@@chappy0690I'm sure that you would just love to spend even an hour (if you could do an hour without collapsing) with the "smelly council workers" that you insultingly describe. Denigrating people who do the jobs you can't makes you a snob. I'll bet you that they are a damn sight fitter than you are. People like you make me angry.

thats an interesting way to announce to the entire channel you are a massive bell -end@@chappy0690

I am assuming you was dropped on your head as a child because only the mentally challenged could come out with a comment like that@@chappy0690

@@user-sf7kl9uh7k ok : "to his credit"

I doubt he was even going 30km/h. Only reason his van hopped was because some put their foot under his back tire

I always slow and make eye contact.I did this once only to have a kid on a motorcycle wheelie past and narrowly missed one of the men.The lorries here now have cameras fitted.

In fairness you could say the same for the bin man. Van was going too fast but the bin man didn't even look before he stepped out.

@@alexg1778 Absolutely, the bin man didn’t look. He has some responsibility here but there’s this thing called “defensive driving”…. You save yourself a mountain of grief if you practice it.

@@zwieseler No he has ZERO responsibility here. There is no way he could have avoided being hit here. He has to stand at the side of the lorry, the red flap he's leaning on prevents him from moving to behind the lorry as the bin sometimes falls off the lifts so it acts as a barrier.

@@alexg1778 The main issue is the driver SAW the binman and not the other way around. If you are a safe driver and not a complete bellend, you slow right down because you can see him and there's absolutely no sign he can see you, what you don't do is carry on full speed ahead and then get shocked when you what you should have known was going to happen, happens. It's just being a safe driver and anticipating hazards, we all did it to pass our test, now some seem to have forgotten it.

They are the opposite side of the noisy truck... 🤦🏼‍♂️

It's probably a regular occurance.

@@johnstannard8366geez I hope not

Eh? Do you even know the criteria for dangerous driving?

@@Shylo2017 speed and lack of due care and attention

Ignoring traffic lights, road signs or warnings from passengers; overtaking dangerously; driving under the influence of drink or drugs, including prescription drugs; driving when unfit, including having an injury; being unable to see clearly; not taking prescribed drugs; or being sleepy. Interesting that none of yours are on there... although I suppose this was a risky overtake.

@@user-sf7kl9uh7k Copied directly from the UK Police site.

​@@Shylo2017overtaking Dangerously

Thanks. We are lucky to have you guys. Hope you stay safe

r kid does it, says its decent got you finish early and gets decent wage from it. some nobhead ran over his foot on the job tho similar to this but less devastating, hasn't been 100% since. some people drive like animals

And the worker should be disciplined as he completely ignored the training video he would have been shown.

Oh, his only mistake was blindly walking into traffic eh? Yeah I guess totally the vans fault, excuse me now while I go run into traffic and sue all the terrible drivers who can't manage to not hit me.

Wrong. Van driver is totally entitled to pass a stationary vehicle. Binman wasn't paying attention. However, the van driver was going far to quickly and not taking potential errors of judgement into consideration.

​@Neil-en2ww have you ever don't the job? No you haven't. You are ment to slow down when coming upto or passing a bin wagon. Tell you what go do the job before you make stupid comments

Parking in the middle of the road is a no no, what about other people that are trying to get to work, or going to work. And what idiot doesn't check for traffic, before stepping into ongoing traffic.

@@robbworth6523 clearly you have never don't the job. If the road is narrow they are allowed to stop in the middle of the road for the safety of the loaders. Go do the job before you comment then you might have an understanding of it

its an easy job. they don't do that much really. walking pace. wagon does the lifting.

Van was absolutely going too fast. You see someone standing there, working, you should be slowing to a near crawl as you approach the truck and worker.

100% the van driver's fault. Going too fast and attempting an overtake when there wasn't enough room to do so safely. And it's hard not to see him when he's wearing hi-viz clothing.

Yes to both. I would have driven with much more caution though.

With the noise from the truck he couldn't hear a vehicle.Anothef problem with electric vehicles...

@@user-sf7kl9uh7k The hydrolics from the bin truck would drown out the noise from a freight train, too many people are in a hurry to get somewhere a few seconds quicker .

Awwwwww boo-hoo. What an absolute whopper you are 😂😂😂

@@adam.677 😂😂

his iq was not the highest

They used to call the electric trolley buses in Glasgow "The Silent Death"

@@simonjones7727 😂😂😂what a lovely deathly title

Except this is nothing to do with his concentration. There's no way he could have avoided being hit as the flap stops him from getting behind the lorry and out of the way of the van.

@@Fireglo Completely agree. You know there are always binmen busy around the bin lorry. It is on the driver to look out mostly I wonder too if the relative sizes of the van driver and bin man were reversed (i.e big binman, little van driver) whether the outcome would have been so harmonious either!

@user-sf7kl9uh7k no he was established working behind the truck not moving then stepped into a live lane without looking.

@@user-sf7kl9uh7k are you trying to tell me you're not allowed to pass a garbage truck in use? The lane is live, yes the driver could have been driving slower but it was instant he would have hit him regardless. Even if the van had stopped if you step into the road without looking you are to blame.

@user-sf7kl9uh7k you began with 'live lane???' As if it wasn't, like I said the van probably should have been driving slower but that dosent mean you can just step into a road without looking.

@user-sf7kl9uh7k yeah I agree the van driver is most likely legaly liable I'm just saying in reality if you intentionally step from behind your work truck, car, a bus ect into where you know a vehicle could be coming without looking you shouldn't have any complaints if you get hit.

That was the van driver's fault. He knows how these refuse men work and what they do. It was dangerous driving.

People keep saying about the bin man going on the road without looking but he's literally already on the road as the controls are on the side of the lorry and the red flap would have preventing him from moving out of the way.

Correct.

Nah, I don't agree. Motorists have a duty of care over pedestrians quite simply because in a collision the driver will never be hurt but the pedestrian could be killed or seriously injured.. And he didn't step out into the road. He was already on the road. 100% van's fault.

@PatrickRyan147 that's the same as saying the driver was already on the road, the binman walked into the path of the van, the van didn't change course or direction, but the binman did

@@kroozer5215 That's correct but the difference between the two men is the van driver is inside a 3 tonne van.. a bit obvious I know but that's the whole point. He needs to operate that 3 tonne van more carefully around vulnerable pedestrians and workmen who have to work on the roads. Granted, the bin man was careless but the van driver didn't allow for that possibility. He was driving too fast and he neglected his duty of care for a much more vulnerable road user. The law gives priority to pedestrians for that reason. The van driver is clearly guilty of driving without due care and attention which is an offence.

​@@kroozer5215 it was the van drivers stupidity that caused this, what idiot would drive through such a small gap at that speed while men in hi vis are working in the road?

100% agree.... Van driver should have driven more cautiously and a lot slower... but the bin man should never step out into a road without looking.

Hah i am

@@pauldavies1102Happy for you mate,personally I think I would have been more inclined to shove f-kwit onto lifting lugs and hoisted him into the bin then hit the compactor button. Guess what? No more speeding down side streets from aforementioned f-kwit.😂😂😂

Hope you get some compensation

​@pauldavies1102 no way didn't know it was yiu glad your ok man I'm a bin man (18 years) and that video made me cringe I thought you was about to take a bin to the face lol hope you are more careful now the van was going way to fast not your fault at all but you have to assume everyone on the road is out to get you and be extra careful. Meh no need for lecture it could happen to me on the wrong day 😢 anyways proper buzzing that your ok. Good man 😊😊😊

@@pauldavies1102 if that is you, then you need some education before going back out, i am sure you learned this at the age of 5, look before you step out into traffic. problem solved

what are you 100, driving without due care, thats 99% of traffic.

@@timk.3286That would certainly explain the amount of fatalities on the road, if true.

This has never happened to me, you know why, because I look both ways before stepping into traffic

@timk.3286 if you read the comment properly I was stepping into a pavement/ sidewalk out of a wagon. Learn to read and understand the comment yourself. Before you start acting the clever dick.

@@timk.3286 I don't drive like a prick.

'Could of'? What DO you think that means?

Basic Highway Code, look left and right, I learnt that aged 5! Don’t just assume you can walk across the road. He and the van driver were both to blame.

Sorry we have a big route everyday dont just do your bins...sorry u cant walk an extra foot to grab your bin too! Sorry they put you out of sorts for that...

@@pauldavies1102 Do your job pal.

@@user-sf7kl9uh7k LOL!

His nickname is hoppy

Only my ego

I think he did see him but the bin guy steps right out in front of the van not even looking to the sides.. And speeding im not so sure, look at the breaking distance its very short And why is the bin truck in the middle of the road? It should be close to the curve to protect the workers..

I also find a huge great BIN LORRY is also a good warning that there's likely a bin lorry in the area 🤣 The driver of that Van is a menace to the roads. If it'd been a kid stepping out from either side of the bin lorry he'd have probably killed it...bin lorry or not, nobody should be driving that fast on a narrow residential road. You know he drives like that every day and probably continues to do so, no matter how many close shaves or lives he takes...

@@caeserromero3013 "I also find a huge great BIN LORRY is also a good warning that there's likely a bin lorry in the area 🤣" Spot on!

@@caeserromero3013 It actually does this in driving theory, in the UK anyway. Shows you a road lined with bins, and asks you a no brainer as to what you should look out for on that road lol. Some drivers really are that dumb though, the van driver in the video wanted banning.

@@caeserromero3013 Also the van man would have seen bins on other streets before he actually met the bin lorry, so he shouldn't have been going that fast either.

@@thewr0ngchild Nobody uses logic or forward thinking these days unfortunately. And not just drivers. I saw a near miss a few years back on a main road not far from a school. A kid was looking to cross the road and the car coming along in the opposite direction to me stopped to let the kid cross, so I stopped also. After a couple of seconds hesitation, the kid then went to step out into the road, just as a cyclist sped past the stationary car on the inside. Literally millimetres from making contact with the kid. I now ride a Boris bike to work in Central London 2 days a week. The other week I stopped to let a pedestrian cross on a Zebra. As the guy is walking across, two bikes overtake me and nearly run down the pedestrian, a 3rd manages to skid to a halt and as they do so, another bike crashes right up the back of them. Even when they see a Zebra with people CROSSING, they still don't think to slow down...

Exactly mate... He was actually overtaking.. IE he saw bin lorry and men working, no idea what was coming in the opposite direction ..but decided not to wait and try the gap, absolutely bastard manoeuvre...

No the bin guy didn’t look end of…if the driver was on the phone or picking his nose it’s not important here, he was on the bin guy as soon as the bin was taken from being emptied and wouldn’t of had time to react… as a kid the basics are look left and right simple as that. All accidents happen as “wasn’t expecting” the car to stop, to pull out, so saying the guy wasn’t expecting the van to charge passed. Expect the unexpected at all times, rules of the road and life!

@@user-sf7kl9uh7k lol you melt, the driver had no time to react watch it again

@@user-sf7kl9uh7k oh dear 🙄

@@wisher21uk I'm afraid you're defending the indefensible bud. Van driver was way too fast. I bet he'd drive that fast past an ice cream van as well. SMH

Well there is a training video on this exact scenario so you would have thought the binman would have been aware of the dangers or at least paid attention to the training, on that basis he is negligent.

So you are aware of the training he would have recieved via a video showing this exact scenario. On that basis he should be disciplined for not taking any precautions imo.

@@maccagrabme For gods sake dont talk to me about training. Your in the classroom one day a week next time your winging about your council tax been so high. THATS WHY....

​@@maccagrabmeirrelevant. That's too fast to be passing, and the driver could SEE the operatives. He drove without due care and attention at the very least, possibly recklessly or dangerously. Imagine that had been a school bus and a kid?? If you think anything else your a liability on the road. Hand your licence in.

@@user-sf7kl9uh7k But a pedestrian and worker also has a duty of care for their own safety and would have been aware of this scenario when his company showed him a safety training video and he must have to complete a risk assessment every day before starting the job yet here he was walking straight out into a road without even looking, how long has he been doing the job to not know the basics of safety?

The binman is the one at fault here. He literally walked himself right into the side of a moving vehicle. The driver is not to blame here. The binman was too fast for the driver to react in any type of reasonal time.

piss off troll..@@user-sf7kl9uh7k

@@mybluebelly The driver was facing the hazard and saw the binman, if you're a competent driver you understand that's a hazard and you slow right down until you're sure the pedestrian can see you, you don't keep on full speed ahead. Van man was completely at fault he had the power to avoid this whole situation by just being a competent driver, if he did that in his driving test he never would have passed.

@@allroundlad Sorry no. The binman turned on a dime and the whole scenario changed & unfolded within less than or just about one second. One second is the minimum reaction time you can expect from a driver. You are basically asking the driver to react to the new situation in less than one second. Watch the video in real time and have a look at the timer. Everything happened in about 1 second. When the binman was doing his thing at the back of the lorry, the road was clear for the van to move along, not to mention the van was not going very fast. You`ll notice it came to a stop within mere meters indicating a very responsive driver and a very slow speed. The binman was not struck by the van, the van got struck by the binman. This is the clear uncut evidence. Usually when pedestrians hit the side of a vehicle, the pedestrian is to blame. When pedestrians are struck by the front of a car, it`s usually the driver who is to blame.

He’s wearing his Ppe and he was at the side of the Lorrie pressing buttons. He has no business even going round at that moment let alone at that speed

exactly, something we all learn at the age of 5, look before crossing.

@@timk.3286Stop. Look. Listen. It isn't difficult but I do see it ignored all the time.

I agree !!

Look at it again ffs the bin man just stepped into his way without even looking how could the driver know he'd do that is the driver meant to sit behind the lorry forever ?????

So if the van was go soooo fast how did it stop within 5ft without skidding??? 12mph max.

@@user-sf7kl9uh7k don’t be silly the bindrager ran into the van, if the van ran into him the van would have hit the back of the bin truck 🤪an other dick how likes to piss people off and doesn’t show their name what a wa⚓️