BIO-ETHANOL vs METHYLATED SPIRITS. Test,Trangia,Boiling Water,Thermometer.

@Funkteon 8 ай бұрын

When comparing methylated spirits and bioethanol for use in an alcohol burner like a Trangia, there are several factors to consider: 1. Performance: - Methylated Spirits: It's a common fuel for alcohol stoves, including Trangia. It burns efficiently and is widely used for camping and outdoor cooking. - Bioethanol: It can also be used, but its performance might slightly vary. It typically has a lower energy content per volume compared to methylated spirits, which might result in a less intense flame and potentially longer cooking times. 2. Availability and Cost: - Methylated Spirits: Generally more readily available in hardware stores or outdoor shops and might be more cost-effective. - Bioethanol: Availability can vary depending on the region. It might be more expensive than methylated spirits, especially if it's marketed as a specialized fuel. 3. Cleanliness of Burn: - Methylated Spirits: Burns relatively cleanly but can leave some residue, depending on the additives. - Bioethanol: Often burns very cleanly with minimal soot or residue, which is an advantage for maintaining your burner. 4. Safety and Toxicity: - Methylated Spirits: Contains toxic additives like methanol, making it unsuitable for indoor use without proper ventilation. - Bioethanol: Generally safer in terms of toxicity when burned, as it produces fewer harmful emissions. However, like all fuels, it requires proper handling and ventilation. 5. Environmental Impact: - Methylated Spirits: Not particularly eco-friendly due to its chemical additives. - Bioethanol: More environmentally friendly, being a renewable resource with a smaller carbon footprint. In summary, while both can be used in a Trangia burner, methylated spirits are more traditional, potentially more efficient, and widely available. Bioethanol is a cleaner, greener alternative, but it might not provide the same heat output and can be more costly.

@yuriklaver4639 6 ай бұрын

In -10 Celcius, biofuel works fine. Figured that out two weekends ago in the Ardennes.

@durnin84 Жыл бұрын

Cost seems to vary wildly on Meths, B&M had it at less than £2, tesco £5 and halfrauds £10. All for the same 500ml brand, Toolstation also had a 2l bottle for £10. In the end I went for Bio-ethanol for the clean burn at £10/2ltr. Good comparison though.

@jasonnalagowild3070 Жыл бұрын

I now use the same m8 cleaner

@harduphiker 10 ай бұрын

Or indeed you can't bioethanol locally! Like the man from Canada below.

@aAnd67 3 ай бұрын

Bio Ethanol 100% 12 litres for £36 on Amazon. Meths nowadays, £4.50 for 500 ml on average. Bio burns 16% hotter, plus you can add 10% water, still same burn time, cleaner though. Meths used to bd dirt cheap, but for some reason, its now dearer than a bottle of wine?? Good video though buddy 👍

@jasonnalagowild3070 3 ай бұрын

Thanks aAnd67. I heard you could put water in meths it makes it a cleaner burn stops all the black stuff on your pots

@aAnd67 3 ай бұрын

@@jasonnalagowild3070 it helps a little bit. I use bio all the time tbh. Bulk buying makes it 9 pence a burn for around 20 + mins, depending on which stove I use.

@georgejones8784 10 ай бұрын

$13 for 2L of bio-ethanol. In Canada, all I can find is 3.78L for $45 for bio-ethanol. It might be cheaper in larger quantities. It's only use here seems to be in bio-ethanol fireplaces.

@greggreaves1727 4 ай бұрын

yeah - bioethanol is hugely expensive in canada.

@johnsinclair2869 Жыл бұрын

Good comparison no black soot with the bio fuel you can use it indoors no odour or toxic fumes well done 👍

@jasonnalagowild3070 Жыл бұрын

Thank you John I use it all the time now. Bio and it's cheaper

@bcamping1 9 ай бұрын

I had really good experience with bioethanol, it was a bit more expensive than denatured alcohol that smelt bad and taste real bad. Then couple years ago I found an ad on facebook marketplace for 30L of denatured for 30 EUR and I had to take it. Lifetime supply. Thankfully that brand had less odor and taste than my previous experience. I think the seller wanted to make some hand sanitiser during covid but denatured is not suitable for that.

@jasonnalagowild3070 9 ай бұрын

I've had good and bad experience with both. I do like yousing the bio more tho 😊

@Funkteon 8 ай бұрын

When comparing methylated spirits and bioethanol for use in an alcohol burner like a Trangia, there are several factors to consider: 1. Performance: - Methylated Spirits: It's a common fuel for alcohol stoves, including Trangia. It burns efficiently and is widely used for camping and outdoor cooking. - Bioethanol: It can also be used, but its performance might slightly vary. It typically has a lower energy content per volume compared to methylated spirits, which might result in a less intense flame and potentially longer cooking times. 2. Availability and Cost: - Methylated Spirits: Generally more readily available in hardware stores or outdoor shops and might be more cost-effective. - Bioethanol: Availability can vary depending on the region. It might be more expensive than methylated spirits, especially if it's marketed as a specialized fuel. 3. Cleanliness of Burn: - Methylated Spirits: Burns relatively cleanly but can leave some residue, depending on the additives. - Bioethanol: Often burns very cleanly with minimal soot or residue, which is an advantage for maintaining your burner. 4. Safety and Toxicity: - Methylated Spirits: Contains toxic additives like methanol, making it unsuitable for indoor use without proper ventilation. - Bioethanol: Generally safer in terms of toxicity when burned, as it produces fewer harmful emissions. However, like all fuels, it requires proper handling and ventilation. 5. Environmental Impact: - Methylated Spirits: Not particularly eco-friendly due to its chemical additives. - Bioethanol: More environmentally friendly, being a renewable resource with a smaller carbon footprint. In summary, while both can be used in a Trangia burner, methylated spirits are more traditional, potentially more efficient, and widely available. Bioethanol is a cleaner, greener alternative, but it might not provide the same heat output and can be more costly.

@LoneWolfExplorer Жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to do the experiment 👍

@neilfields5914 6 ай бұрын

So it all boils down to the price. Ethanol is obviously a winner

@jasonnalagowild3070 6 ай бұрын

It would be but I dont how it burns in minus weather

@neilfields5914 6 ай бұрын

@@jasonnalagowild3070 well we’ll have to try that 👍

@cmnhl1329 Ай бұрын

Nice pun

@Dickie2702 3 ай бұрын

There is no difference in the energy density of these two fuels. Bio-ethanol 21MJ/L, Methalyted Spirits 21MJ/L. Additionally I'm not sure where you are buying your meths but I just paid £21.45 for 5litres. So I would suggest that the costs are comparable.

@jasonnalagowild3070 3 ай бұрын

All shops are different prices. Bio is mutch clearer to burn. do you think they would both preform in the cold weather 🤔

@NotPracticingLawdotinfo Жыл бұрын

Thanks..... and ya have a real Good concept, there... helping others, so they can pay it forward!

@jasonnalagowild3070 Жыл бұрын

I do try

@keithorbell8946 11 ай бұрын

Bio fuel does seem to burn hotter in my experience, but that also means that it doesn’t last as long, so fine for a quick brew but no good if you’re cooking a meal.

@jasonnalagowild3070 11 ай бұрын

I find it better in the winter,cold times it seemed to last longer than meths. Thanks keith

@keithorbell8946 11 ай бұрын

@@jasonnalagowild3070 interesting, I have my first wild camping trip to Dartmoor next month and I.m trying to decide which fuel to use!

@Funkteon 8 ай бұрын

When comparing methylated spirits and bioethanol for use in an alcohol burner like a Trangia, there are several factors to consider: 1. Performance: - Methylated Spirits: It's a common fuel for alcohol stoves, including Trangia. It burns efficiently and is widely used for camping and outdoor cooking. - Bioethanol: It can also be used, but its performance might slightly vary. It typically has a lower energy content per volume compared to methylated spirits, which might result in a less intense flame and potentially longer cooking times. 2. Availability and Cost: - Methylated Spirits: Generally more readily available in hardware stores or outdoor shops and might be more cost-effective. - Bioethanol: Availability can vary depending on the region. It might be more expensive than methylated spirits, especially if it's marketed as a specialized fuel. 3. Cleanliness of Burn: - Methylated Spirits: Burns relatively cleanly but can leave some residue, depending on the additives. - Bioethanol: Often burns very cleanly with minimal soot or residue, which is an advantage for maintaining your burner. 4. Safety and Toxicity: - Methylated Spirits: Contains toxic additives like methanol, making it unsuitable for indoor use without proper ventilation. - Bioethanol: Generally safer in terms of toxicity when burned, as it produces fewer harmful emissions. However, like all fuels, it requires proper handling and ventilation. 5. Environmental Impact: - Methylated Spirits: Not particularly eco-friendly due to its chemical additives. - Bioethanol: More environmentally friendly, being a renewable resource with a smaller carbon footprint. In summary, while both can be used in a Trangia burner, methylated spirits are more traditional, potentially more efficient, and widely available. Bioethanol is a cleaner, greener alternative, but it might not provide the same heat output and can be more costly.

@lesliesmith205 7 ай бұрын

Hi wear you get your bio fuel at that price We are paying far more And to be honest it cheaper to run a diesel heater

@jasonnalagowild3070 7 ай бұрын

From BQ diy store

@lesliesmith205 7 ай бұрын

@jasonnalagowild3070 thank went there yesterday and was told that they don't sell it in Barnstaple lol But thank you les

@jasonnalagowild3070 7 ай бұрын

Was it a small store the bigger BQ do it😊

@trevdevadventures Жыл бұрын

Awesome 😎

@bradleyswendra5659 Жыл бұрын

Good

@johnw2758 Жыл бұрын

Nice experiment...how much fuel did you put in please? Also, what was the time of the first boil?

@jasonnalagowild3070 Жыл бұрын

Not shore just put it in the tub. But what I have found out the cold makes a big differences

@bradleyswendra5659 Жыл бұрын

Ok great

@ianhepburn6555 7 ай бұрын

Great video! Thanks

@jasonnalagowild3070 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

@matvaughan8446 Жыл бұрын

Love stove reviews

@jasonnalagowild3070 Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@davidadams8736 Жыл бұрын

15 seconds is not enough of an advantage for the extra cost

@jasonnalagowild3070 Жыл бұрын

It dosent put the black marks on your pot's to

@NikosKatsikanis Жыл бұрын

thx

@kurtsteiner8384 Жыл бұрын

You have been done. Methalated spirit as of two days ago costs me £1.50 per half litre. From a local hardware store. Bio fuel cost from blacks £6.00 for 1 litre. That was from blacks camping store. Bio is more costly. So what are your conclusions to all this.

@jasonnalagowild3070 Жыл бұрын

Bio is from bq for 2 liter is £8.00 meths is £4.99 for 500ml. Bio is a cleaner fuel and the price difference. Youre lucky you got meths for £1.50. But got ripped of for bio fuel

@kurtsteiner8384 Жыл бұрын

@@jasonnalagowild3070 I have heard if you ad some wTer to the fuel it stops it smoking. I have not tried it yet. Weater this good also for meths and bio fuel i dont know. It was susposed to be for petrol and white spirit and parafin.

@jasonnalagowild3070 Жыл бұрын

@@kurtsteiner8384 I dident have a problem with any smoke. If you add a bit of water to meths it supost to stop the black burning on your pots

@davidadams8736 Жыл бұрын

1.79 meths 500ml B&m

@apcwjw Жыл бұрын

I prefer bioethanol, I used it on an 11 night car camping tour in Sept 2021 and it was nice not having to clean sooty pans.