I did a experiment to see witch fuel was better. price, heat, burning time. Thank you for clicking on my video.#bio-ethanol #methylatedspirits #trangia #thermometer you can contact me on my email jasonandnalagowild@gmail.com
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@Funkteon8 ай бұрын
When comparing methylated spirits and bioethanol for use in an alcohol burner like a Trangia, there are several factors to consider: 1. Performance: - Methylated Spirits: It's a common fuel for alcohol stoves, including Trangia. It burns efficiently and is widely used for camping and outdoor cooking. - Bioethanol: It can also be used, but its performance might slightly vary. It typically has a lower energy content per volume compared to methylated spirits, which might result in a less intense flame and potentially longer cooking times. 2. Availability and Cost: - Methylated Spirits: Generally more readily available in hardware stores or outdoor shops and might be more cost-effective. - Bioethanol: Availability can vary depending on the region. It might be more expensive than methylated spirits, especially if it's marketed as a specialized fuel. 3. Cleanliness of Burn: - Methylated Spirits: Burns relatively cleanly but can leave some residue, depending on the additives. - Bioethanol: Often burns very cleanly with minimal soot or residue, which is an advantage for maintaining your burner. 4. Safety and Toxicity: - Methylated Spirits: Contains toxic additives like methanol, making it unsuitable for indoor use without proper ventilation. - Bioethanol: Generally safer in terms of toxicity when burned, as it produces fewer harmful emissions. However, like all fuels, it requires proper handling and ventilation. 5. Environmental Impact: - Methylated Spirits: Not particularly eco-friendly due to its chemical additives. - Bioethanol: More environmentally friendly, being a renewable resource with a smaller carbon footprint. In summary, while both can be used in a Trangia burner, methylated spirits are more traditional, potentially more efficient, and widely available. Bioethanol is a cleaner, greener alternative, but it might not provide the same heat output and can be more costly.
@yuriklaver46396 ай бұрын
In -10 Celcius, biofuel works fine. Figured that out two weekends ago in the Ardennes.
@durnin84 Жыл бұрын
Cost seems to vary wildly on Meths, B&M had it at less than £2, tesco £5 and halfrauds £10. All for the same 500ml brand, Toolstation also had a 2l bottle for £10. In the end I went for Bio-ethanol for the clean burn at £10/2ltr. Good comparison though.
@jasonnalagowild3070 Жыл бұрын
I now use the same m8 cleaner
@harduphiker10 ай бұрын
Or indeed you can't bioethanol locally! Like the man from Canada below.
@aAnd673 ай бұрын
Bio Ethanol 100% 12 litres for £36 on Amazon. Meths nowadays, £4.50 for 500 ml on average. Bio burns 16% hotter, plus you can add 10% water, still same burn time, cleaner though. Meths used to bd dirt cheap, but for some reason, its now dearer than a bottle of wine?? Good video though buddy 👍
@jasonnalagowild30703 ай бұрын
Thanks aAnd67. I heard you could put water in meths it makes it a cleaner burn stops all the black stuff on your pots
@aAnd673 ай бұрын
@@jasonnalagowild3070 it helps a little bit. I use bio all the time tbh. Bulk buying makes it 9 pence a burn for around 20 + mins, depending on which stove I use.
@georgejones878410 ай бұрын
$13 for 2L of bio-ethanol. In Canada, all I can find is 3.78L for $45 for bio-ethanol. It might be cheaper in larger quantities. It's only use here seems to be in bio-ethanol fireplaces.
@greggreaves17274 ай бұрын
yeah - bioethanol is hugely expensive in canada.
@johnsinclair2869 Жыл бұрын
Good comparison no black soot with the bio fuel you can use it indoors no odour or toxic fumes well done 👍
@jasonnalagowild3070 Жыл бұрын
Thank you John I use it all the time now. Bio and it's cheaper
@bcamping19 ай бұрын
I had really good experience with bioethanol, it was a bit more expensive than denatured alcohol that smelt bad and taste real bad. Then couple years ago I found an ad on facebook marketplace for 30L of denatured for 30 EUR and I had to take it. Lifetime supply. Thankfully that brand had less odor and taste than my previous experience. I think the seller wanted to make some hand sanitiser during covid but denatured is not suitable for that.
@jasonnalagowild30709 ай бұрын
I've had good and bad experience with both. I do like yousing the bio more tho 😊
@Funkteon8 ай бұрын
When comparing methylated spirits and bioethanol for use in an alcohol burner like a Trangia, there are several factors to consider: 1. Performance: - Methylated Spirits: It's a common fuel for alcohol stoves, including Trangia. It burns efficiently and is widely used for camping and outdoor cooking. - Bioethanol: It can also be used, but its performance might slightly vary. It typically has a lower energy content per volume compared to methylated spirits, which might result in a less intense flame and potentially longer cooking times. 2. Availability and Cost: - Methylated Spirits: Generally more readily available in hardware stores or outdoor shops and might be more cost-effective. - Bioethanol: Availability can vary depending on the region. It might be more expensive than methylated spirits, especially if it's marketed as a specialized fuel. 3. Cleanliness of Burn: - Methylated Spirits: Burns relatively cleanly but can leave some residue, depending on the additives. - Bioethanol: Often burns very cleanly with minimal soot or residue, which is an advantage for maintaining your burner. 4. Safety and Toxicity: - Methylated Spirits: Contains toxic additives like methanol, making it unsuitable for indoor use without proper ventilation. - Bioethanol: Generally safer in terms of toxicity when burned, as it produces fewer harmful emissions. However, like all fuels, it requires proper handling and ventilation. 5. Environmental Impact: - Methylated Spirits: Not particularly eco-friendly due to its chemical additives. - Bioethanol: More environmentally friendly, being a renewable resource with a smaller carbon footprint. In summary, while both can be used in a Trangia burner, methylated spirits are more traditional, potentially more efficient, and widely available. Bioethanol is a cleaner, greener alternative, but it might not provide the same heat output and can be more costly.
@LoneWolfExplorer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to do the experiment 👍
@neilfields59146 ай бұрын
So it all boils down to the price. Ethanol is obviously a winner
@jasonnalagowild30706 ай бұрын
It would be but I dont how it burns in minus weather
@neilfields59146 ай бұрын
@@jasonnalagowild3070 well we’ll have to try that 👍
@cmnhl1329Ай бұрын
Nice pun
@Dickie27023 ай бұрын
There is no difference in the energy density of these two fuels. Bio-ethanol 21MJ/L, Methalyted Spirits 21MJ/L. Additionally I'm not sure where you are buying your meths but I just paid £21.45 for 5litres. So I would suggest that the costs are comparable.
@jasonnalagowild30703 ай бұрын
All shops are different prices. Bio is mutch clearer to burn. do you think they would both preform in the cold weather 🤔
@NotPracticingLawdotinfo Жыл бұрын
Thanks..... and ya have a real Good concept, there... helping others, so they can pay it forward!
@jasonnalagowild3070 Жыл бұрын
I do try
@keithorbell894611 ай бұрын
Bio fuel does seem to burn hotter in my experience, but that also means that it doesn’t last as long, so fine for a quick brew but no good if you’re cooking a meal.
@jasonnalagowild307011 ай бұрын
I find it better in the winter,cold times it seemed to last longer than meths. Thanks keith
@keithorbell894611 ай бұрын
@@jasonnalagowild3070 interesting, I have my first wild camping trip to Dartmoor next month and I.m trying to decide which fuel to use!
@Funkteon8 ай бұрын
When comparing methylated spirits and bioethanol for use in an alcohol burner like a Trangia, there are several factors to consider: 1. Performance: - Methylated Spirits: It's a common fuel for alcohol stoves, including Trangia. It burns efficiently and is widely used for camping and outdoor cooking. - Bioethanol: It can also be used, but its performance might slightly vary. It typically has a lower energy content per volume compared to methylated spirits, which might result in a less intense flame and potentially longer cooking times. 2. Availability and Cost: - Methylated Spirits: Generally more readily available in hardware stores or outdoor shops and might be more cost-effective. - Bioethanol: Availability can vary depending on the region. It might be more expensive than methylated spirits, especially if it's marketed as a specialized fuel. 3. Cleanliness of Burn: - Methylated Spirits: Burns relatively cleanly but can leave some residue, depending on the additives. - Bioethanol: Often burns very cleanly with minimal soot or residue, which is an advantage for maintaining your burner. 4. Safety and Toxicity: - Methylated Spirits: Contains toxic additives like methanol, making it unsuitable for indoor use without proper ventilation. - Bioethanol: Generally safer in terms of toxicity when burned, as it produces fewer harmful emissions. However, like all fuels, it requires proper handling and ventilation. 5. Environmental Impact: - Methylated Spirits: Not particularly eco-friendly due to its chemical additives. - Bioethanol: More environmentally friendly, being a renewable resource with a smaller carbon footprint. In summary, while both can be used in a Trangia burner, methylated spirits are more traditional, potentially more efficient, and widely available. Bioethanol is a cleaner, greener alternative, but it might not provide the same heat output and can be more costly.
@lesliesmith2057 ай бұрын
Hi wear you get your bio fuel at that price We are paying far more And to be honest it cheaper to run a diesel heater
@jasonnalagowild30707 ай бұрын
From BQ diy store
@lesliesmith2057 ай бұрын
@jasonnalagowild3070 thank went there yesterday and was told that they don't sell it in Barnstaple lol But thank you les
@jasonnalagowild30707 ай бұрын
Was it a small store the bigger BQ do it😊
@trevdevadventures Жыл бұрын
Awesome 😎
@bradleyswendra5659 Жыл бұрын
Good
@johnw2758 Жыл бұрын
Nice experiment...how much fuel did you put in please? Also, what was the time of the first boil?
@jasonnalagowild3070 Жыл бұрын
Not shore just put it in the tub. But what I have found out the cold makes a big differences
@bradleyswendra5659 Жыл бұрын
Ok great
@ianhepburn65557 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks
@jasonnalagowild30707 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@matvaughan8446 Жыл бұрын
Love stove reviews
@jasonnalagowild3070 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@davidadams8736 Жыл бұрын
15 seconds is not enough of an advantage for the extra cost
@jasonnalagowild3070 Жыл бұрын
It dosent put the black marks on your pot's to
@NikosKatsikanis Жыл бұрын
thx
@kurtsteiner8384 Жыл бұрын
You have been done. Methalated spirit as of two days ago costs me £1.50 per half litre. From a local hardware store. Bio fuel cost from blacks £6.00 for 1 litre. That was from blacks camping store. Bio is more costly. So what are your conclusions to all this.
@jasonnalagowild3070 Жыл бұрын
Bio is from bq for 2 liter is £8.00 meths is £4.99 for 500ml. Bio is a cleaner fuel and the price difference. Youre lucky you got meths for £1.50. But got ripped of for bio fuel
@kurtsteiner8384 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonnalagowild3070 I have heard if you ad some wTer to the fuel it stops it smoking. I have not tried it yet. Weater this good also for meths and bio fuel i dont know. It was susposed to be for petrol and white spirit and parafin.
@jasonnalagowild3070 Жыл бұрын
@@kurtsteiner8384 I dident have a problem with any smoke. If you add a bit of water to meths it supost to stop the black burning on your pots
@davidadams8736 Жыл бұрын
1.79 meths 500ml B&m
@apcwjw Жыл бұрын
I prefer bioethanol, I used it on an 11 night car camping tour in Sept 2021 and it was nice not having to clean sooty pans.
@TheUpsetter Жыл бұрын
could you paint a panel next ?that wasn't boring enough.
@jasonnalagowild3070 Жыл бұрын
Lol its somthing diffrent.
@leftfootforward104010 ай бұрын
Could you post a useful comment, it wasn't interesting enough.
@TheUpsetter10 ай бұрын
@@leftfootforward1040 No, I'm too bored watching this video I'm going to watch another video.
@leftfootforward104010 ай бұрын
What where you hoping for. Did you read the title? Or did you get confused and think this was a wwf title fight?
@TheUpsetter10 ай бұрын
@@leftfootforward1040 I was hoping for something less boring!! and to be honest whats it got to do with you?
@wandera2927 Жыл бұрын
I buy that 500ml meths for £1.49 from Home Bargains.
@NikosKatsikanis Жыл бұрын
so its cheaper than eth?
@agustinolivera4561 Жыл бұрын
dis vidio is to dark
@jasonnalagowild3070 Жыл бұрын
Well it was done at night time I can do an update in the summer if that helps