Birmingham: A search of the group of Irish workers who help built the Spaghetti Junction

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BhamUrbanNewsUK

7 жыл бұрын

This piece first broadcast on 11 Nov 2016. Televised on UK's regional television BBC One - West Midlands. Programme (Program) - Midlands Today

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@72mossy
@72mossy 2 жыл бұрын
My dad worked in Burton on trent for a while when he was 15. He returned home to Tipperary after a while, joined the Irish Army at 19, did 3 years, gave 6 months in the Congo with the UN. Came home, finished up in the army, off to England, Cricklewood and Kilburn for most of the 60s, came home again and met my mother. Was a truck driver delivering headstones all around Ireland, work in the silvermines for Mogul for the rest of the 70s, drilling and blasting, no work in the 80s, was a handyman. He worked hard all his life. He's 82 in September. Father of 6 and grandad of 7. My mum passed away in 2000 aged 55.
@user-vt7ob9by1g
@user-vt7ob9by1g 3 ай бұрын
Tough men, we will never see the likes of them again/
@gezley100
@gezley100 2 жыл бұрын
Lived just off Gravelly Hill for the first 12 years of my life. Used to love going by train to the city centre and looking down upon the motorway, canal, and other railway lines below. Played football and fished for minnows beneath the junction too.
@terencedoonan7598
@terencedoonan7598 5 жыл бұрын
The English man made the tea , the Irish men did the donkey work
@MrFootballfu
@MrFootballfu 3 жыл бұрын
And they made a bad cup Ps only joking
@michaelmaloney4517
@michaelmaloney4517 4 жыл бұрын
Irish people best race on planet.. from American presidents to heavyweight champs....
@patriciabunn4107
@patriciabunn4107 4 жыл бұрын
Would not agree.
@liam77877
@liam77877 Жыл бұрын
@@patriciabunn4107 Boo Hoo Patricia cheer up.
@patrickkavanagh8374
@patrickkavanagh8374 5 жыл бұрын
I worked on Spaghetti in the early stages 69/70 time frame and recognise some Joe Mannion back row second from right from Galway, Other faces look familiar,
@johnboyle3297
@johnboyle3297 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone remember the Camp Hill flyover, built by navies for a few thousand pound over a weekend many years later demolished over a number of months at a cost of millions
@Behyelzebub
@Behyelzebub 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to share my memory of living in Erdington, amongst the men who built Spaghetti Junction. It was a nightmare.
@johnsmith-bx4rn
@johnsmith-bx4rn 2 жыл бұрын
nightmare ??? get out a here , should of gone out and had a drinking session with em
@Behyelzebub
@Behyelzebub 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnsmith-bx4rnI got married in 1970, I was twenty one and my wife was nineteen. We bought a newbuild house not far from Erdington high street. To get to the high street we had to walk through what became bedsit land for a large number of Irish workers. They used to sit on the walls outside their digs insulting passers by. Because I was young I was often challenged to fight these morons as they insulted my wife and shouted what they would like to do to her. I can remember being in a bar and seeing one of them push a table forward, throw up on the floor, then pull the table back over the vomit and carry on drinking. Not the sort of people I would go for a pint with. My family are Irish, from Dublin and this isn't how they behave.
@williecaldwell5101
@williecaldwell5101 6 жыл бұрын
the brims made the tea
@alanbartlett9523
@alanbartlett9523 6 жыл бұрын
It was,nt all Irish who worked on this job, some of my mates worked on there from the beginning and they were Brum born and bred.
@liam77877
@liam77877 Жыл бұрын
They didn’t say it was all Irish they said it was mostly Irish who built it.
@superblanch15
@superblanch15 5 жыл бұрын
Worcester born and bred,did I read the caption wrong
@huub1989
@huub1989 4 жыл бұрын
My thought too.
@williecaldwell5101
@williecaldwell5101 6 жыл бұрын
the.irish built.it the burns would dent be able.the made.the tea
@Behyelzebub
@Behyelzebub 4 жыл бұрын
The English were working in the factories,earning twice as much money.
@giuseppenero110
@giuseppenero110 2 жыл бұрын
"Obviously they didn't have gloves"..? As I recall, gloves HAD been invented by then.
@stevebull4578
@stevebull4578 Жыл бұрын
The majority of our buildings were built by Brits. This often repeated nonsense that the Irish built up our country is a myth and an insult to the many hardworking English, Welsh and Scottish Bricklayers, carpenters, plasterers and many other trades, implying we didn’t lift a finger and let the Irish do all the graft is an insult to those equally hardworking British men. The one thing the Irish did dominate was groundwork, laying tarmac and concreting, they were also very good at laying track for the railroads too. I’m not taking anything away from the Irish, they were extremely hard grafters, I’m half Irish myself (plastic paddy), but to say they built up Britain is a load of old bull. For example, throughout the majority of known English history the majority of bricklayers around all of England, were very highly trained local Englishmen, that’s a fact and that goes for all the trades.
@PATRICKGERARDGLENNON
@PATRICKGERARDGLENNON Жыл бұрын
I done 10 years plastering in London back in the day with mostly English lads, your summary sounds fair.
@user-vt7ob9by1g
@user-vt7ob9by1g 3 ай бұрын
you don't know what your talking about. Go back and look at the labour records for London after the great fire of 1666, look at where the majority who came in to build back came from? In fact look at the ranks of the British (English) army from 1492 to 1694 and beyond, over 50% were Irish at one time? this created a trend that transitioned to building/labouring. No other group, not even the Scottish/welsh, came close to the numbers of Irish who build Britain in both buildings/roads. The big Irish contractors that rule the roost today are a legacy to this reality and are still there for a reason. Scottish/welsh
@stevebull4578
@stevebull4578 3 ай бұрын
@@user-vt7ob9by1g Give me a link to this proof please. I'm half Irish myself, so I'm not shitting on the Irish, but I've been in the building game all my life and the majority of the trades were English, the Irish were mainly groundworkers, tarmacers, concreting...fact. That was over 25 years ago though, there is hardly any Irish now, all taken over by Eastern European, so no, they don't rule the roost as you say. You say they were over 50% of Irish builders in England at one time, even if I was to believe that statistic that you have just plucked out of the sky, which I don't, that still doesn't make it that the Irish built up England all on their own...does it?! No it doesn't. Please send these proofs, if not, I'll asume your stats are bs, if you do send them and if they do check out after further research, because biased stats can be faulty, I'll admit I was wrong and own it.
@user-vt7ob9by1g
@user-vt7ob9by1g 3 ай бұрын
Your missing the point, we are not talking about the building trade since mid 1990's here, everything has altered beyond all recognition, since then, with the demographic of builders altering dramatically and H&S compliance. Last time I looked 7 years ago, Murphy workers were clocking on, with digital codes/cards, and at least 6 nationalities on site.The point is the historic Irish role in the building of Britain over the past 400 years, from medieval England to the Irish navigators (Navvies) to the post war rebuilding of London. Where are the big Scottish/welsh contractors, compared to the Irish multinational operations that originate down south? This has nothing to do with racism either, its just a fact that men from our neighbouring Island did the most of it, and they were beyond good at it, despite the racism they got from a establishment conditioned public.They were mostly farming stock, with a tough can do attitude. Today our occult central controllers have succeeded in watering down the male population of these islands, as elsewhere, you wont find the likes of these men again, and yes there were hard Scottish/Welsh/English mixed in with them too, its just a plain simple fact, that the majority were Irish. If you go to the historic statistical record, you can find incredible pay entries for majority Irish labourers/carpenters/ etc, back as far as 1706 , what we both know to be true anyway.
@mullagh670
@mullagh670 2 ай бұрын
In E.Midland town's the first bus of the day was called the Paddy Bus. One housing estate was called the Polish Estate, the brickwork was and is exceptional to this day. Built by Polish men after the war who then went on to settle in England.
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