BJP Demand to Change Mughal-era Names in Delhi is Cretinism and Ignorance of history: Swapna Liddle

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The following is the question:
How do we stop this?
or are we helpless?
In an interview to discuss the suggestion made by the Delhi President of the BJP, Adesh Gupta, in a letter sent to Chief Minister Kejriwal, that the names of forty Mughal-era villages be changed because they are symbols of slavery, the renowned historian and author Swapna Liddle has said the demand is “silly” and “ignorant of history”. She also agreed with a comment by another professor of history, Narayani Gupta, that “we are descending into collective cretinism”.
In a 20 minute interview to Karan Thapar for The Wire, Dr Liddle, who has written several popular books on the history of Delhi, including a highly regarded one on Chandni Chowk, and is the former Convenor of the Delhi chapter of INTACH, explained at length the origin of names such as Najafgarh and serais such as Neb Sarai, Jia Serai and Lado Sarai. She pointed out that these are not named after Mughal or sultanate rulers but beneficiaries of land grants or generals and aristocrats of the time.
What problem does Mr Gupta have with serais, she asked? Is it the fact it’s an Urdu word? But his letter to the Chief Minister uses Urdu words like azadi and ghulami, she pointed out.
Dr Liddle said Adesh Gupta is simply wrong when he claims these 40 village names commemorate Mughal emperors or Sultanate rulers. Also there’s absolutely no way you can logically or historically claim these names are symbols of slavery.
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@gvsingh8785
@gvsingh8785 2 жыл бұрын
Rewriting history as per their political agenda is diverting attention from core issues of unemployment, underdeveloment and so on.
@TUMTUMTUM981
@TUMTUMTUM981 2 жыл бұрын
Her name "liddle (christian)" says it all. xtians r the silent but deadly ones.
@vm3306
@vm3306 2 жыл бұрын
then u rally to bring out the unemployment, underdevelopment
@bkk5153
@bkk5153 2 жыл бұрын
Who is asking Karan Thapar to discuss this when he could be keeping the attention focused on unemployment, underdevelopment and so on ?
@vm3306
@vm3306 2 жыл бұрын
@@bkk5153 Absolutely correct.
@brownmouse6121
@brownmouse6121 Жыл бұрын
@@bkk5153 why not?
@sherlockholmes19
@sherlockholmes19 2 жыл бұрын
Blind race of narcissism with jingoistic fervour.. keeps on blooming under the current regime,a progeny of Nagpur.. History whether u like it or not will nt fade just by doing this name change mahaabhiyan...
@MrGandalal
@MrGandalal 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the meaning of Sarai ? It just means a place to rest
@monojdas-gupta5918
@monojdas-gupta5918 2 жыл бұрын
Literally : An inn
@ravigodara887
@ravigodara887 2 жыл бұрын
Per gobar bhakton ko nhi pata
@mansurkhalid1
@mansurkhalid1 2 жыл бұрын
saray, seray or sarai.... is a persian origin word. many hotels in UAE are also named after. may be in some other countries also.
@wahidgulkhan1
@wahidgulkhan1 2 жыл бұрын
Our country has gone to the Dogs and if a country or organization is going to the dogs, it is becoming very much less successful than it was in the past.sad but true 😡
@vm3306
@vm3306 2 жыл бұрын
don't show papers, wear hijab, keep loudspeaker with highest decibels for azaan, pelt stones on hindu processions then u cry victim.
@holywarrior5719
@holywarrior5719 2 жыл бұрын
Please go to any Islamic country don’t be here.
@OSHOTheCabbalistic
@OSHOTheCabbalistic 2 жыл бұрын
This government is sickened from Policy Paralysis because this government has failed to solve the issues of unemployment, inflation, downfall of economic condition, Petrol Diesel Price Hike, NPA of banks, 45 crores youths abandoned the hope of jobs, 9 lacs Indians abandoned Indian citizenship (2015-2021), 90% foreign debt and take out money by foreign investors from the Indian market. So, they always raise silly issues (according to RSS originated "Mind Distraction Program")
@thunderbolt4796
@thunderbolt4796 2 жыл бұрын
You are distracted, This topic itself is different, it's a civilizational issue
@vipulmpatel9101
@vipulmpatel9101 2 жыл бұрын
Mr thundelbolt. You are correct. You are dealing with singh. No brain.
@OSHOTheCabbalistic
@OSHOTheCabbalistic 2 жыл бұрын
@@thunderbolt4796 👏👏👏👏🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👌👌👌👌👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@wahidgulkhan1
@wahidgulkhan1 2 жыл бұрын
Very true bro they have miserable failed in governance but luckily successful with flying colours in communal polarization.
@OSHOTheCabbalistic
@OSHOTheCabbalistic 2 жыл бұрын
@@wahidgulkhan1 100% agree !
@satyamevajeyte8882
@satyamevajeyte8882 2 жыл бұрын
So, what do we change name of Taj Mahal to ? Also Akbar's tomb, Humayun's Tomb, Jehangir's Tomb, Salim Chisti's tomb, BiBi ka Maqbara ? How about changing these to present Rulers names ?
@gunwantsodhi6197
@gunwantsodhi6197 2 жыл бұрын
Suggested name in given order- Feku Mahal, Godi Nagar, Bulldozer Niwas, Jumlebaj Nagar, Mota Bhai Villa, BiBi ka Chabutara.
@snehasisjena8714
@snehasisjena8714 2 жыл бұрын
We may, with overwhelming happiness but these present sinners aren't going to die that easily!!!!!!
@gunwantsodhi6197
@gunwantsodhi6197 2 жыл бұрын
@@snehasisjena8714: They don’t care, living or dead e.g. Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel Stadium, Ahmedabad change name is recent example.
@gunwantsodhi6197
@gunwantsodhi6197 2 жыл бұрын
@Viru Sahasrabudhey: National drink: Gomutra, National Snack: Gobar Paneer Samosa?
@gunwantsodhi6197
@gunwantsodhi6197 2 жыл бұрын
@Viru Sahasrabudhey: Excellent. You have snacks, drink and then food. Enjoy your meal.
@alokjaimen8833
@alokjaimen8833 2 жыл бұрын
Karachi in Pakistan still has a prominent chowk the Lakshmi Chowk, and many more chowks, roads and other prominent places bearing names of Hindu gods. Probably semi or illiterate BJP netas are unaware about these facts.
@meenakrishnani6266
@meenakrishnani6266 2 жыл бұрын
Handful left, most have been changed, layalpur has become faislabad, wake up
@nirbhaywasi2480
@nirbhaywasi2480 2 жыл бұрын
If Congress had changed names, these people would have praised them.
@riyaz4455
@riyaz4455 2 жыл бұрын
I always have one doubt in my mind why RSS and BJP skips british slavery and directly jumps to mugal rule. Also not able to understand why most of the founders of RSS supported British Rule and opposed our own freedom fighters
@logicalthinker483
@logicalthinker483 2 жыл бұрын
Sultan e Mysore was the worst nightmare to british. Still after a few centuries, he is a nightmare to the tails and stooges of british.
@DS-hk7kx
@DS-hk7kx 2 жыл бұрын
A chutiya comment
@riyaz4455
@riyaz4455 2 жыл бұрын
@@DS-hk7kx kuch javab nahi mila dene ke liyea. Chutiya batha diya
@Anonymous-nt4sz
@Anonymous-nt4sz 2 жыл бұрын
@@DS-hk7kx Mind your Language please. Just because you don’t agree to someone’s view doesn’t mean he’s wrong. He has a point which is absolutely correct.
@SuperAnwarr
@SuperAnwarr 2 жыл бұрын
According to RSS and BJP British never were invaders or put India into slavery. coz British were not Muslims.
@binaayaak
@binaayaak 2 жыл бұрын
BJP should first change the name of "Hindu Religion" to" Sindhus Religion" because the term "Hindu" is a persian geographical term used for people who live beyond Indus.
@binurajs
@binurajs 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@OSHOTheCabbalistic
@OSHOTheCabbalistic 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right !
@thunderbolt4796
@thunderbolt4796 2 жыл бұрын
Sindhu/indu/hindu are interchangeable! The word Hindu is also there in scriptures like mahabharat
@ca-vm9re
@ca-vm9re 2 жыл бұрын
IN THIS TIME OF DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY WE ARE NOT ABLE ABLE TO BE HONEST AND EDUCATE THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTRY FOR DEVELOPMENT SAFETY HEALTHY HABITS AND UN EMPLOYMENT WE ARE LOOKING DISASTER NOT SAFETY OF THE COMING GENERATIONS PLEASE LET US ALL INDIANS UNITE AND SAVE THE COUNTRY FROM THE DESH DROHIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE PLEASE 😀
@amansinghyadav2387
@amansinghyadav2387 2 жыл бұрын
Iittle knowledge is dangerous
@thesocialcommenter5004
@thesocialcommenter5004 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent debate name changing doesn't give anyone employment, removes poverty, and prices Hike.
@venkatapavan6156
@venkatapavan6156 2 жыл бұрын
Then ask them to change … what is the point to discuss here
@apurvasolanki8367
@apurvasolanki8367 2 жыл бұрын
Oh really then why ANTONIO MAINO is soniya Gandhi, why raul vinci is rahul gandhi infact grandgrandfather was Nehru, grandfather was feroz khan, why Gandhi surname is being used by these, why not Nehru Or khan??. If it doesn't give employment?? Infact why were original name changed by aggressors, do you have any clue of this??
@gurmeetkaur2860
@gurmeetkaur2860 2 жыл бұрын
Changing names cannot change history and we should focus on solving current problems like a sinking economy
@thesocialcommenter5004
@thesocialcommenter5004 2 жыл бұрын
@@gurmeetkaur2860 Yes agreed 💯 to what you have said 👍🙏
@apurvasolanki8367
@apurvasolanki8367 2 жыл бұрын
@@gurmeetkaur2860 tell this to Antonio maino... Soniya Gandhi.... Why Nehru changed to Gandhi.... Moreover name changed by mughals led to people of your mindset.... It's long term impact.... To keep people relevant
@Parasuram5
@Parasuram5 2 жыл бұрын
We cannot change history by changing names. In fact we would learn history from names like the Roshanara Bagh or Sahibabad or Lodi gardens and many others. Again agree that a lot of history is associated with names and changing them would wipe out the connect. But there is one name I am very uncomfortable with and that is Bakhtiarpur in Bihar. The bigot who burnt down the Nalanda University.
@denmadhav
@denmadhav 2 жыл бұрын
Balanced opinion; I agree with you.
@drzakir123
@drzakir123 2 жыл бұрын
he did absolutley right when criminal of modi,advani,vajpayee type hiding in it and causing law and order problem!!
@TUMTUMTUM981
@TUMTUMTUM981 2 жыл бұрын
Her name "liddle (christian)" says it all. xtians r the silent but deadly ones.
@DS-hk7kx
@DS-hk7kx 2 жыл бұрын
@@drzakir123 boring
@DS-hk7kx
@DS-hk7kx 2 жыл бұрын
We can learn about them in books but we don’t need to make our villages after them
@gurindersingh8109
@gurindersingh8109 2 жыл бұрын
Punjab should have changed all Hindu names of cities to Sikh names post 1966. Durgiana temple name should be changed to kaamakhiya devi, kaali devi Patiala temple should be called Gori devi.
@The.Friendly.Psychopath
@The.Friendly.Psychopath 2 жыл бұрын
But there's already a temple named Kamaakhya in Guwahati.
@The.Friendly.Psychopath
@The.Friendly.Psychopath 2 жыл бұрын
So much fuss in changing the names. Let's drop it.
@kargreat
@kargreat 2 жыл бұрын
That won’t happen, you will be called Ganesh from today onwards
@logicalthinker483
@logicalthinker483 2 жыл бұрын
@Viru Sahasrabudhey an iron lady tried to change them. Now that's history
@abhinavkumar4819
@abhinavkumar4819 2 жыл бұрын
Khalistani is a Islamist with turban
@vlogtanveer201
@vlogtanveer201 2 жыл бұрын
गर्मी में अपने घरों के बाहर, छतों पर पानी के बर्तन रखें और हो सके तो छतों पर पक्षियों के लिए छाया की व्यवस्था भी करें। पक्षियों के शरीर में इलेक्ट्रोलाइट की मात्रा संतुलित रहे, इसके लिए पानी मे गुड़ की थोड़ी मात्रा मिलानी चाहिए। इससे गर्मी में तापमान से राहत मिलती है और शरीर में पानी की कमी नहीं होती।
@chaitanyaranjan2184
@chaitanyaranjan2184 2 жыл бұрын
गुड़ ज़रूरी नहीं है। पानी काफ़ी है। नेक सलाह के लिए शुक्रिया।
@nishatmanzar119
@nishatmanzar119 2 жыл бұрын
Sarais were meant for the travellers. All were welcome, irrespective of their religion or caste. Prior to the tradition of constructing sarais, indians of low caste were not allowed inside dharmshalas. Dharmshalas were caste based. Sarai opened its doors to all. It provided great facility to traders and merchants to move far and wide.
@purvivikas1360
@purvivikas1360 2 жыл бұрын
Which history told u this
@apurvasolanki8367
@apurvasolanki8367 2 жыл бұрын
Dharmshala was caste based and sarai was secular.... Oh really... Then who are kafir, who were giving jaziya?.. How many low caste hindus were made king by mughals and britishers??? Any idea.... Nonsense of extreme level.... Even kabristaan and mosque in current society of muslim is different for different caste of muslim, pasmanda, ashraaf, ahmadiya, sayyad, pathan, mohajir, shiya sunni.... But intellectual level telling that dharmshala were caste discriminated and sarai were secular..... These lollypop nowadays hard to sell... Think some new MIM BHIM type thing... Or take some inclusive altakiya frode from ARFA sherwani... Video is viral... 😃😃
@classicalgem
@classicalgem 2 жыл бұрын
SARAIS mean Kucha or Mohallah or Ilaaqa or Locality or Place to Stay or Local term or language to call a perticular space meant for travellers or visitors.
@satyadevi4939
@satyadevi4939 2 жыл бұрын
In kashmir how many years they wait for proper liveing now B J P at lost it's happened you are pressing saria is ?
@purvivikas1360
@purvivikas1360 2 жыл бұрын
@@classicalgem what is the meaning of dharmshala then
@nssoni9363
@nssoni9363 Жыл бұрын
Most of the name of roads, square,railway station etc of Britisher rulers had been changed, but no noise from historians
@advityat
@advityat Жыл бұрын
Who said no noice. Similar things which were said then.. changing names is just nonsense.
@rajashashankgutta4334
@rajashashankgutta4334 5 ай бұрын
​@@advityat😂😂😂😂
@mahendrathakur768
@mahendrathakur768 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of Changing the names, the central government should pay its attention for improving the poor economiccondition of
@hyd916
@hyd916 2 жыл бұрын
THIS BLOOD THIRSTY BJP. HAS NOTHING TO DO,. HENCE NOW THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE NAMES OF. MOGULS. MODI , N SHAH R OBSESSED WITH THE HINDUISM. IINSTEAD. OF IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF THE LIVES OF UNEMPPOYED N REDUCE THE PRICE OF THE PETROL N DIESEL.
@mahendrathakur768
@mahendrathakur768 2 жыл бұрын
@@hyd916 thanks
@denmadhav
@denmadhav 2 жыл бұрын
Name change proposal can be a distraction from being conscious of the poor economic conditions.
@benverdict4503
@benverdict4503 2 жыл бұрын
They are napunsak to improve the poor economic constion in the nation, so they are doing such eunuch acts....
@mahendrathakur768
@mahendrathakur768 2 жыл бұрын
@Average Joe House, toilet, water , electronic,ration facilities, job oriented scheme through narega were introduced by UPA government.Presentgovt has taken the job n made living of the poor hard.Has help the rich like Ambani,Adani to become richer
@madhusreebsingh
@madhusreebsingh 2 жыл бұрын
I have very little education, but i fail to understand the concept of 'India' without the mughals and sultans! If some people like it or not, it's their problem. We Indians (irrespective of religion caste or creed), trying to deny a part of our history which is part of us, is ridiculous. Wake up!
@Myanmartiger921
@Myanmartiger921 2 жыл бұрын
Agree osama shaheed should also get university
@yatnavalkyan
@yatnavalkyan 2 жыл бұрын
You actually suffer a lot since you are uneducated. Why not get educated? It is never too late to start any education, is it not ??
@madhusreebsingh
@madhusreebsingh 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! If they were such babarians why take ur international guests to 'shameful' monuments and gift pictures of Taj mahal. images.app.goo.gl/5Tw6FgzhMNAXpdp66 Do discuss with ur 6th standard fail chaiwala leaders and fix on a label. And try tokeep ur ignorance to yourself.
@yogeshsaini2954
@yogeshsaini2954 2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@saratsaratchandran3085
@saratsaratchandran3085 2 жыл бұрын
You must know the history of you being the second class citizen in his own country paying a tax to those invaders and enslavers for being a native Hindu! You want to pontificate that history of enslavement and be proud of it!? I wonder!
@brownmouse6121
@brownmouse6121 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful interview!
@vimaladeshmukh4017
@vimaladeshmukh4017 2 жыл бұрын
Radio Rwanda is the best example of what happend with Hindus in Kashmir in 1990.
@tribaldarshan
@tribaldarshan Жыл бұрын
How do we know that after 50 years the then regime will not want to change the names of monuments, roads etc? If that is so, then why shouldn't the courts put some sense into the guys who want to change names? Or the Parliament to legislate on it to stop such irrational acts?
@Mksmoodi
@Mksmoodi 2 жыл бұрын
If that is the case, many city names in the north western India to western UP will have to bear Tamil names, as evident from recent research by Dr.Bala Krishnan, IAS, who has listed the tamil city names in the Indus belt region in his historiographic work, titled Journey of a Civilization.
@The.Friendly.Psychopath
@The.Friendly.Psychopath 2 жыл бұрын
Accordingly yes. 👍
@unison2679
@unison2679 2 жыл бұрын
Skyfall name Changed 🤑
@KumaresanMuruganandam
@KumaresanMuruganandam 2 жыл бұрын
@Viru Sahasrabudhey get to know the history and geography. Try visiting present Afghanistan and find the names of the villages still remain with Tamil names. If you have some burning sensation apply Bhaktonol. Your ignorance is exposed.
@govindsrivastava5238
@govindsrivastava5238 2 жыл бұрын
The nearest railway station near Nalanda university ruins is named after the man who got it burnt down. Mr. Karan may term it any thing but it is defending indensible.
@rationalguy1
@rationalguy1 2 жыл бұрын
No railway station is named Bakhtiyar? Bakhtiyar was the Turk king who destroyed that structure. I call it structure because after Buddhism was forced out of the nation by Brahmin king Pushyamitra Sunga, this Buddhist university of Nálanda was shut down. Though the structure was standing. This structure was destroyed by the Turk king Bakhtiyar.
@purvivikas1360
@purvivikas1360 2 жыл бұрын
@@rationalguy1 nalanda was built by kumargupt of gupta dynasty read again my friend
@Raj-nh3fc
@Raj-nh3fc 2 жыл бұрын
History is like layers in archaeology where each layer indicates a new era, new changes, new names.
@shanthageorge7413
@shanthageorge7413 Жыл бұрын
How can the truth be wiped out? It will always arise out of ashes.
@yatishpathak1604
@yatishpathak1604 2 жыл бұрын
I just my guts out while watching this interview.. Gosh.. what these guys are..!?!? 🤣🤣🤣
@OSHOTheCabbalistic
@OSHOTheCabbalistic 2 жыл бұрын
Name Change of 40 Villages in Delhi is like "Smart cities without any new development" ( Varanasi, Allahabad Aligarh, Mughalsarai........)
@vmadhu1456
@vmadhu1456 2 жыл бұрын
come to devangari or tumkur orchitradurga and see who the cities are, rejuvenation of old ponds, smart street lights, oldes, aims medical university new airport. for us this is smart cities
@TUMTUMTUM981
@TUMTUMTUM981 2 жыл бұрын
Her name "liddle (christian)" says it all. xtians r the silent but deadly ones.
@bkk5153
@bkk5153 2 жыл бұрын
Just like when Connaught Place became Rajiv Chowk, Nalanda became Bakhtiarpur, Devgiri became Daulatabad ....
@Myanmartiger921
@Myanmartiger921 2 жыл бұрын
Pragyaj
@basuh7526
@basuh7526 Жыл бұрын
Keep crying
@lalisubramaniam747
@lalisubramaniam747 Жыл бұрын
Painful history must be erased, murderers should be eradicated n not remembered n celebrated
@midoritherandom
@midoritherandom 2 жыл бұрын
This is literally just a way to create chaos in the country Like, what even is the use of renaming them? These guys are just destroying ancient India's history. BRUH!!
@arnavpandey3823
@arnavpandey3823 2 жыл бұрын
Chutiye vo mediaeval hai ancient nahi. Name changing zaroori hai kiuki vo invaders theee.
@vinayakmhetras9985
@vinayakmhetras9985 2 жыл бұрын
Is this an interview or discussion to mutually agree? An interviewer should be keeping his personal views aside and challenging the views of the interviewee. Mr. Thapar, I had watched you interviewing Mr. Harish Salve and truly enjoyed it. That according to me is the golden standard of an interview.
@adityabanerjee7145
@adityabanerjee7145 2 жыл бұрын
No interrogation in case they are both librandus
@TUMTUMTUM981
@TUMTUMTUM981 2 жыл бұрын
Her name "liddle (christian)" says it all. xtians r the silent but deadly ones.
@koushikmohan668
@koushikmohan668 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Exactly. Like how our PM is challenged in his interviews!!
@biswarup077
@biswarup077 2 жыл бұрын
Not always. Sometimes it is to understand some topic from an expert.
@Anonymous-nt4sz
@Anonymous-nt4sz 2 жыл бұрын
@@biswarup077 Thanks for being open minded.
@mollamorshad4371
@mollamorshad4371 2 жыл бұрын
When power goes to the hand of illiterate, great civilization always faces this type of problem.
@thedailykeyboard4312
@thedailykeyboard4312 2 жыл бұрын
But Khan Sir advices that Puncture putras must lift themselves from Puncture fixing and get literate...
@mustafaammar6415
@mustafaammar6415 2 жыл бұрын
@@thedailykeyboard4312 aur be Andhbhakt sab badhiya
@mustafaammar6415
@mustafaammar6415 2 жыл бұрын
@Viru Sahasrabudhey it's really saddening and disheartening that fellow people like you are pulling down own countrymen, even if he is unable to read newspaper still he is our beloved countrymen, hope you understand and Change your thinking🙏
@mollamorshad4371
@mollamorshad4371 2 жыл бұрын
@Viru Sahasrabudhey your way of argument itself indicates your literacy level.
@mollamorshad4371
@mollamorshad4371 2 жыл бұрын
@Viru Sahasrabudhey your level of arguments indicate how much educated you are. Definitely you have graduated from whatsApp university. Congratulations for owning a degree by following godi media.
@BaldevSingh-ur9de
@BaldevSingh-ur9de 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent exposition indeed . Unfortunate developments .
@chandraprakashchourase8959
@chandraprakashchourase8959 2 жыл бұрын
Because they have a deep inferiority complex that they cannot bulild such wonderful structures just like a poor man envies a rich mans house.
@pingalkhan5317
@pingalkhan5317 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Thapar was perfectly alright when Calcutta became Kolkata since the communists did so this guy is a heinous journalist in a line of despicable humans hailing from his family
@biswarup077
@biswarup077 2 жыл бұрын
No that was also wrong. Where did you see Mr Thapar supporting that.
@AfsanAhmed08
@AfsanAhmed08 2 жыл бұрын
Naam badalne se itihaas nhi badlega 😎
@BruceWayne-oz9dm
@BruceWayne-oz9dm 2 жыл бұрын
To fir problem kyu hai itna. Padhai kar jaake.
@purvivikas1360
@purvivikas1360 2 жыл бұрын
See tmhara naaam bdla tm muslim ho gye
@AfsanAhmed08
@AfsanAhmed08 2 жыл бұрын
@@BruceWayne-oz9dm Padhai krne ko jarurat tumko hai be naam badalne ko vikas samjhne walo 😂 na itihaas padha na khud ka dharm, har jagah whatsapp ka gyan pelte ho..
@BruceWayne-oz9dm
@BruceWayne-oz9dm 2 жыл бұрын
@@AfsanAhmed08 naam to tumlog ke ancestors ne badla tha forcefully convert hoke. Reality me toh hindu hi huye , naam badalne se kya hota hai😂
@AfsanAhmed08
@AfsanAhmed08 2 жыл бұрын
@@BruceWayne-oz9dm Jali na logo ne sanatan sanskriti chhod ke Islam qabul kiya😂 forcefully convert 100, 500, 1000 ho skte hai lakho nhi... Or aaj bhi lakho log har saal musalman ban rhe hai, sirf america me hi 20000 har saal jinme 2/3 white aurte hai .. unko kon force kr rha hai.. or ko log religions pr research krte hai wo end me islam kyu qabul kr lete hai...Ye jake tu unhi se puch,... Or ho sake to ved puran geeta or Quran bhi padh fir tu khud samjh jayga dharm kya hota hai. Doodh bahake moot pina, . Moorti se magne wala dharm nhi hota.. sanatan sanskriti ko jabardasti dharm bna rkha hai.
@AnandKumar-qn6rt
@AnandKumar-qn6rt 2 жыл бұрын
The example of Ghiyasuddin Balban is really not the right one saying he was liked by the people, as per his deeds . Anyways the name Balban reminds me of the tormentor spirit in the latest horror film 'Exorcism of God' .
@kpsher367
@kpsher367 Жыл бұрын
We need to learn to live with our history so you never forget any parts of it. Colonial era/landmarks are as much part of the history in any nation as modern history so Indians learn to live with it.
@inderb6365
@inderb6365 2 жыл бұрын
BJP politicians, big or small, in an effort to ingratiate themselves with the High Command, come up with such preposterous ideas. How else can they justify their presence in the Party? They must be seen to be saying anything that is anti-Muslim, to be counted! Thanks Karan, and Swapna Liddle for a very enlightening discussion.
@snehasisjena8714
@snehasisjena8714 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, instead of creating history through our collective wisdom and efforts we've set out on an unfortunate quest to erase our own history. As someone who loves history and avidly delves into the events of historical significance, I'm utterly disheartened.
@shinyandnew6040
@shinyandnew6040 2 жыл бұрын
We don't want to glorify nightmares. Would you keep things of someone who murder your family? Think. You are saying all this cz you are safe now
@snehasisjena8714
@snehasisjena8714 2 жыл бұрын
@@shinyandnew6040 This is the kind of rubbish that frightens me a lot!!!! I belong to the State of Odisha, the erstwhile Kalinga which suffered the highest casualty at the hands of emperor Ashoka. However, we don't abhor him. Instead, if you come to Odisha, you'll find several things named after him.
@shinyandnew6040
@shinyandnew6040 2 жыл бұрын
@@snehasisjena8714 what's the point? Ashok was Indian not a foreigner.He apologised and changed. Still you are free to abhor him.This appeasement and apologetic attitude is what made India a slave and continue to ruin the image. This lack of self respect and bravery.this cowardice and shameful attitude makes me ashamed .I dream of India where citizens are brave and clear in vision not apologetic To clap 2 hands are needed. This one sided love has no future. Stockholm syndrome
@snehasisjena8714
@snehasisjena8714 2 жыл бұрын
@@shinyandnew6040 You should be utterly ashamed of your own divisive, narrow mindset to begin with. This would greatly reduce your burden of shame. The Mughals ruled over India because they defeated all other contemporary kings of that time. They might as well be marauders, but can you rule them out of India's history. Here, we are discussing the issue of selectively rewriting our history. I'm not glorifying the Mughals or any one from the past. I'm in favour of keeping history as it is. Tweaking historical facts isn't gonna change history. Hope this gets etched on that thick skull of yours. That said, I'm sorry if you're made a slave by the Mughals and hope you get the opportunity to travel to the past and change it. India got enslaved because of its divided society and people like you have always been instrumental in keeping that division intact.
@apurvasolanki8367
@apurvasolanki8367 2 жыл бұрын
@@snehasisjena8714 divisive society... Check Pakistan history if u ever get opportunity.... These sort pseudo liberalism killing and creating thick scull of your version, how u believe that what is written in your books by these nehruvuan historian cum novel writers is right to what extent... In fact correction of history is much needed... This mindset of glorifying aggressors is very common in cool guy type illustration.... Unfortunately
@txlish
@txlish 2 жыл бұрын
Chaiwala does not want you to know that - He does not have to die (Let alone his mama still alive) to put his name on Stadium. But that did not stop him to kill 1000s becos of Covid spread (forcing patrons) to sit in this Gujju named Stadia in his name (while still alive) and in Kotla stadium (He forced to open after having changed its name on Jaitley posthumously), 1000s including players, staff, admin who went in and out spread the covid in 2 communities and ultimately shut down the ipl
@abuahmed6058
@abuahmed6058 2 жыл бұрын
In Bangladesh there are many names after the Hindus goddess but none bothers to change those names ,changing names doesn't mean anything ,it is simply a meanness .
@nocomments2121
@nocomments2121 2 жыл бұрын
so you change ur name to Abhyuday Arora
@Santosh-te9js
@Santosh-te9js 2 жыл бұрын
History getting OBSELTE WHAT ABOUT SCIENCE 😀😀😀😀
@ArunSingh-jv4ew
@ArunSingh-jv4ew 2 жыл бұрын
Means when bjp is doing its an agenda but when congress did in the past was a corrective measure. That is pseudo secularism is labelled on those who are biased.
@sabtaingopinath9652
@sabtaingopinath9652 2 жыл бұрын
Watching that interview... At the end... I felt a bit depressed and sad. Don't know why.
@divykantverma1856
@divykantverma1856 2 жыл бұрын
These people always search island in the vast ocean .
@haroon420
@haroon420 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I don’t see an issue with changing names of towns. It’s happened through history by the rulers. But I think as a democracy, the country should not be bothering with this changing names business. And let them grow organically.
@anandbiga
@anandbiga 2 жыл бұрын
The only reason behind renaming places is deep hatred for islaam born out of complete ignorance of monarchy/feudalism. These revenge seekers don't realise that religious persecution, cruelty, barbarism, war n bloodshed and lust were the hall mark of the monarchs and these characteristics were common to Hindu, muslim, Christian etc, irrespective of the faith they followed. It is most unfortunate that a large section of people from the hindi belt have not understood this simple reality of monarchy. They have simply fallen for vilification of muslim rulers cos deep down their unconscious mind thet harbour animosity against the muslim culture. This is again due to their false understanding of history.
@TUMTUMTUM981
@TUMTUMTUM981 2 жыл бұрын
Her name "liddle (christian)" says it all. xtians r the silent but deadly ones.
@premkumarkhanna138
@premkumarkhanna138 2 жыл бұрын
Unnecessary demand
@user-ge5co1bg3q
@user-ge5co1bg3q Жыл бұрын
Thanks wire for bringing this beautiful conversation.
@anandseth6950
@anandseth6950 2 жыл бұрын
I'm soooooo happy to hear your perspective about this topic dear Madam... it's really eye opener... hope people at the healm of affairs learn something from your immense knowledge..
@vmadhu1456
@vmadhu1456 2 жыл бұрын
yeah worship our prosecutors, build statues for them, name the villages, good. because they found one tablet which spoke good of the invaders
@kedtiwari
@kedtiwari 2 жыл бұрын
@@vmadhu1456 Did You Get Your Two Rupees ?????????
@TUMTUMTUM981
@TUMTUMTUM981 2 жыл бұрын
Her name "liddle (christian)" says it all. xtians r the silent but deadly ones.
@vmadhu1456
@vmadhu1456 2 жыл бұрын
@@kedtiwari very good rebuttal
@vinodburhade5093
@vinodburhade5093 2 жыл бұрын
@@kedtiwari 👌👍😆😆
@gunwantsodhi6197
@gunwantsodhi6197 2 жыл бұрын
In Delhi Humayunpur adjoins Krishna Nagar & Arjun Nagar, Mohamadpur adjoins Rama Krishna Puram and so many other localities. Delhites live in harmony and total peace. Change in names on behest of Delhi Baniyas is laughable, insane and unjustified.
@SuperAnwarr
@SuperAnwarr 2 жыл бұрын
When will they change the name of Republic of India to Republic of Bharat as official name in UN. India is the name given by British, it never was called in as India before British came. Moguls must be laughing on them by now..🤣🤣🤣
@krishvenkat8518
@krishvenkat8518 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you bothered ? You are a Muslim first and your ummah is in Saudi! Whether it is Bharath or India, is for us Hindus to worry about. Converts have to go to Saudi!!
@SuperAnwarr
@SuperAnwarr 2 жыл бұрын
@@krishvenkat8518 ye market me naya aaya kya.. Saudi chale jao.. heheheheh Andhbhakt.🤪🤪
@krishvenkat8518
@krishvenkat8518 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperAnwarr Thanks it is better to be called Andhbakth than to called a terrorist or Jihadi! You laugh all you want. The world is laughing at you jokers....🤣🤣 Even Saudi you have to clean toilets!!
@rajagopalank.a1009
@rajagopalank.a1009 2 жыл бұрын
The present names were given during Mughal regime replacing the original Indian names.What is wrong in restoring original names.This can't be termed undesirable.
@mgw4video
@mgw4video 2 жыл бұрын
Curious that the interview ignored name changes of many major Indian cities: Mumbai (Bombay), Chennai (Madras), Bengaluru (Bangalore), Kolkata (Calcutta) etc. Consideration of similar strategy and different politics would have enriched the discussion. I would have liked to hear what both might have said about that.
@advityat
@advityat Жыл бұрын
The same logic applies here. Many of us who live in these cities still refer to them by their old names!!
@AnujGupta-pr5xo
@AnujGupta-pr5xo 2 жыл бұрын
BJP falsehood must be halted and true picture must be told openly. I urge Ms. Swapna mam to make videos in collaboration with The Wire. Short bite sized videos or a web-series kind of sorts.
@vm3306
@vm3306 2 жыл бұрын
left liberandu historical cries when things don't go their way. it is a meltdown of the dirty ecosystem
@classicalgem
@classicalgem 2 жыл бұрын
Very sad and disheartening for all the Indians as a whole.
@AmitKumar-qh1ts
@AmitKumar-qh1ts 2 жыл бұрын
Changing name is alright. Don't spread misinformation please. Even people sometimes change their name. Names are changed everywhere for so many things. It could be road, building, city, or even country. Sometimes a new district, or state, or even country can be created, out of existing ones which is even a more disruptive change. But sometimes such changes are done, all over the world. Changing these names is also all right. Should be done.
@AnujGupta-pr5xo
@AnujGupta-pr5xo 2 жыл бұрын
Ms. Swapna Liddle, you need to make history bite-sized videos in Hindi and In English in collaboration with The Wire❤️🇮🇳
@krishvenkat8518
@krishvenkat8518 2 жыл бұрын
That will means Hindu Bashing!
@anitadiwadkar8314
@anitadiwadkar8314 2 жыл бұрын
She has videos on old historical places
@sanjaykrishna3203
@sanjaykrishna3203 2 жыл бұрын
Way of doing propaganda is the suggestion so it can be used for twiter and tiktok.
@liebedich7680
@liebedich7680 2 жыл бұрын
Some enjoy slavery, some not! Slavery is enjoyed by the "Historians" set in a certain time warp, and who have enjoyed professional or financial success, in their chosen circle. They have nothing to do with national ethos, patriotism, but their success with lucre, govt. Recognition, allotment of b'lows in Lutyens, scholarships, phd. sale etc !
@mirahmedalikhan7055
@mirahmedalikhan7055 2 жыл бұрын
They have given you a deep culture.How to live..eat.behave. How to wear...They have given you the Administration's..Revenue Roads. Many of our Governament offices are running in those buildings which they have constructed ..Now the system of governance in your hand ply as you like who stopped you ..Good luck..
@mausumihalder2232
@mausumihalder2232 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting conversation 👍🙏
@TUMTUMTUM981
@TUMTUMTUM981 2 жыл бұрын
Her name "liddle (christian)" says it all. xtians r the silent but deadly ones.
@TheMatin1
@TheMatin1 2 жыл бұрын
It makes us more concious to know our history.
@philomenathomas1619
@philomenathomas1619 2 жыл бұрын
Great knowledge Real talks goes only in Wire
@jp-sl7cd
@jp-sl7cd 2 жыл бұрын
The same people who are against revisiting islamic brutality in India and defend "conquest as conquest" would defend black lives matter or minority rights in western countries. So is conquest not a conquest in that case?
@badruddinkhan5261
@badruddinkhan5261 2 жыл бұрын
Great persons should not discuss the mean persons and about their meanness.
@yumchaforall
@yumchaforall 2 жыл бұрын
Gupta may have no understanding of history, but his request has nothing to do with history. It is about politics - which he does understand well, and which is at war with accurate history.
@purvivikas1360
@purvivikas1360 2 жыл бұрын
And u punture guys know all hai naa asmani book
@vasudiwannarayanan7328
@vasudiwannarayanan7328 2 жыл бұрын
When someone conquers a place, there is a tendency to change and name everything....to reflect the religion, language and culture of the conqueror...eventhough the conquerer may be taking over a much richer and more ancient civilization..and which have its own heroes. and historical figures ...So it makes no sense no retain the vestiges of the conqueror for eternity.....after they have been vanquished..or no longer have their power grip over the local population..Example- many places in south east Asia was renamed after being conquered by the Japenese..who ruled for a while..None of the places retain these names today..Even in the US, the statues and symbols of the confederate army ..are being destroyed..eventhough they are arguably historical ..and are products of its own people..not conquerors in the normal sense....So there are lots of justification..to make suitable changes..to names of places ..in keeping to the times..and the sentiments of the local people..
@wasiahmed1558
@wasiahmed1558 2 жыл бұрын
A guest invited can never be invasive. Can seven great oceanic water clean the letters imprinted in the papers of the past. Probably the souls of Rana Sangha, Medni Roy, Daulat Khan plus more can better tell. Rana Sangha didn't attack Agra as committed and promised had annoyed and convinced the man to stay back, knowing and assuming the self win solely. Hasan Mewati, the commander, did his best on behalf of Rana.!
@kunalsingh3121
@kunalsingh3121 2 жыл бұрын
BS, Rana Sanga did not need to ask a lost vander who was thrown out from his own native land of Samarkand & was ruling a pitty kingdom of Kabul before winning Panipat [1526] and more importantly Khanua [1527] On contray, Rana Sanga established one of most powerful Indian kingdom of that age even asserted by few Baburnama chronicles that he and Krishna Deva Raya were two greatest Hindu ruler of that age.. He did stayed in India because he has no choice to go back to his poverty stricken kingdom of Kabul where he was failing to fulfill food supplies requirements of his army.. Hasan Khan Mewati did not do any favour in fighting with Sanga (his faction was small 5k anyway) just like Ibhrahim Khan Gardi fought with Marathas in Panipat [1761]..doesnt change the fact that those were Hindu armies and Hasan did not lead last stand for Rajputs either it was done by Prithviraj Kachwaha of Amber and Raj Rana Ajja of Mewar.. PS:- No contemporary Hindu/Muslim/Sikh/Jain writter mention about Sanga sending ambassdor to Kabul to invite a inconsequestional prince. [Read: G.N Sharma excellent rebut of this fabel in Mewar and Mughal Emperors]
@Myanmartiger921
@Myanmartiger921 2 жыл бұрын
You allah you scienceless fools
@huma3968
@huma3968 2 жыл бұрын
Cannot believe this debate is happening. Very disappointed.
@TraditionalistKashmiri
@TraditionalistKashmiri 2 жыл бұрын
Persistent smile on Swapna Liddle's face ❤️❤️❤️
@tanvijain7818
@tanvijain7818 2 жыл бұрын
Dare you even think of doing it...Don't you politicians have better things to do than merely changing names
@saifwhynotme
@saifwhynotme 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of looser mentality! Why don’t they build something world class on their own and name it, rather than renaming something which they had absolutely no role in building!
@binahamed
@binahamed 2 жыл бұрын
It is futile to correct the past. One should live in the present and dream about future.
@biswarup077
@biswarup077 2 жыл бұрын
BJP should change the name of the religion. " Hindu". Its a name given by foreigners .
@rationalguy1
@rationalguy1 2 жыл бұрын
Persian 😁
@biswarup077
@biswarup077 2 жыл бұрын
@Viru Sahasrabudhey By your logic tolerants following medieval era law book which discriminate against all non dwija men and all women should be boycotted by others. And don't forget tolerants alos invaded other countries like Sri Lanka and Malaya.
@shailendrarajora4530
@shailendrarajora4530 2 жыл бұрын
The leftists will aways find some weird explanation as to why the symbols of Mughal rule should be allowed to exist. Precisely these sorts of people were responsible why India was ruled by Foreigners in the first place
@anupamfouzdar9226
@anupamfouzdar9226 2 жыл бұрын
What has Adesh Gupta to say about NDMC (NEW DELHI MUNICIPAL COUNCIL) directly under MHA continuong with "Babar Road", the road connecting Shanker Market (CP) to Lady Irwin college and having Bengali Market.?
@davidkrupadanam1179
@davidkrupadanam1179 2 жыл бұрын
Decades back it was a big joke about the Western tourists who commented that all Indian cities and towns villages are poor and bad.... names ending in.... pur.....bad
@kareemkhan-hv1yp
@kareemkhan-hv1yp 2 жыл бұрын
Bhakts be like our Kings killed for conquest but Muslim rulers killed for religion 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
@nadeemafzal4698
@nadeemafzal4698 2 жыл бұрын
Hats off to Karan Thapar for raising these topics... One cannot change history by changing names
@manutrivedi1891
@manutrivedi1891 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Brilliant. Puncture bana.
@krishvenkat8518
@krishvenkat8518 2 жыл бұрын
Correct. We cannot forget the atrocities that the Mugfuls committed on the Hindus!! We should do a Museum depicting their atrocities, the number to temples that were broken etc etc. This will help you and us be reminded of what Muslims are capable off!!
@BruceWayne-oz9dm
@BruceWayne-oz9dm 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly tu bhi hindu hi hai , naam badal lene se muslim thori ho gya.
@TheKrish1972
@TheKrish1972 2 жыл бұрын
@@anithajesuman3940 every Mughal is a plunderer..should be removed
@purvivikas1360
@purvivikas1360 2 жыл бұрын
@@anithajesuman3940 he too was Islamist he formed a religion din-i-,illahi which he himself did not follow because Islam cannot let other sect to prevail. He was a murderer
@indersinghmalik8359
@indersinghmalik8359 2 жыл бұрын
B, J, P has now made a history of selling thousands crores property in few hundreds like pawan hanse Or ad proof we can see the hundreds crores are coming in B, J P, party only so it seems give and take one to others hand if this government is honestly working what about transparency controlling media and press conference openly to all journalist Nil e c, who rap P, m during last election or so etc etc
@capt.nagarajrao7814
@capt.nagarajrao7814 2 жыл бұрын
Why do we have Bhaktiyarpur? Named after Bhaktiyar Khilji, the man was the soldier who destroyed several universities across North India. This Khilji was the general of Qutub Uddin Aibak. The start of the Shunga dynasty is debated. Pushyamitra deposed Brihadrata the last Mauryan empire who was charged with insanity.
@netaambani
@netaambani 2 жыл бұрын
Good that the names be changed… no tyrants name be left… no glorification. Its heart ranching and very dissociating from rich and noble Hindu history of Rama
@zenith808
@zenith808 2 жыл бұрын
You must change YOUR name, so we know who the author of this illiterate opinion is
@logicalthinker483
@logicalthinker483 2 жыл бұрын
Noble hndu history of Rama? Its a pure mythological character. Not even a single evidence is there to support his reign. No one even knows where he was born exactly. The Babri masjid issue is a pure political play with literally no evidence. Moreover Muslims usually dont convert a idol worshipping temple to a Masjid unless it was previously a monotheistic place of worship . Now you see, you may or may not believe in Ram. But the twist is those books written about him is years after his death by anonymous people. I request you to verify from your own end. Peace
@bharat341
@bharat341 2 жыл бұрын
what Ashoka did in Kalinga and even before, we all are aware with it. what he did was cruel and it was similar to what many other ruler did to build empire. so why should name the places after him and also respect him? answere is simple- 1. no any empire builder you will find who renounce the violence after winning the battle instead of continuing with same model to further expand the empire. 2. Ashok became the messenger of peace after the battle of kalinga. his messages you will find in many inscriptions .
@kaustubhken
@kaustubhken 2 жыл бұрын
Ashoka did not destroy temple ashoka killed only in war not without any reason he didnot invade foreign country, after war he converted to Buddhism and spread peace whole Asia
@vm3306
@vm3306 2 жыл бұрын
@john zeb ur dp british, aurangzeb who killed mercilesslessly, looted vandalised temples, did conversions but idolized by m's,c's
@rationalguy1
@rationalguy1 2 жыл бұрын
Not really. After adopting Buddhism, Ashoka had reacted violently to one painting by a main monk showing Buddha bowing to Mahavir. He declared that he would reward anyone a gold coin for every head of a jain monk beheaded. About 50,000 jain monks were beheaded in his kingdom. Remember this was after he adopted Buddhism.
@dpfrmhell
@dpfrmhell 2 жыл бұрын
Change street names in Delhi as well😂😂
@suyogambhore5799
@suyogambhore5799 2 жыл бұрын
Rational India is receding on a daily basis.
@vijayraju6182
@vijayraju6182 2 жыл бұрын
Keep going Mr.Thapar. India needs more people like you.
@purvivikas1360
@purvivikas1360 2 жыл бұрын
Sanchi stupa was repaired by pushyamitra shunga , and bharut stupa was built by agnimitra . Ashoka did not kill people on the name of religion he saw the destruction and accepted Buddhism and went on path of ahimsa . There is no solid evidence of clash between Hindus and Buddhism they both existed and flourished. Now coming to name changing it does not happen overnight there is provision and constitution allows it . Everytime you cry for preservation of constitution. Your propaganda shame on you thapar an enslaved 🐶
@sarfraz7111982
@sarfraz7111982 2 жыл бұрын
They capacity is to change the name only.
@madhusudanaraokota3046
@madhusudanaraokota3046 2 жыл бұрын
The very concept of HINDUISM to be tolerent to all religions is being given a goby the shortsighted politicians
@drzakir123
@drzakir123 2 жыл бұрын
hinduism is the worst religion and when it comes to violence there is none like it!! just have a look at all the devi devatas they are full of weapons and fighting and killing each other all the time!!
@drzakir123
@drzakir123 2 жыл бұрын
also look at ram,and what he did with that women sita!! he left pregnant sita in the forest and then brough two little childrens on her own!!
@TUMTUMTUM981
@TUMTUMTUM981 2 жыл бұрын
Her name "liddle (christian)" says it all. xtians r the silent but deadly ones.
@ajshaikh1569
@ajshaikh1569 2 жыл бұрын
What purpose it will serve ?
@saleemhashmi4131
@saleemhashmi4131 2 жыл бұрын
I think present BJP rule will be written in Indian history as short sighted , narrow minded , jealous , foolish and religion , cast and colour based hatred with fellow citizens , is their characteristics of rule .
@pamtam1
@pamtam1 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@Mork2001
@Mork2001 2 жыл бұрын
Only in your islamic history else this period will be known as the period where further emancipation of muslim women happened (triple talaq), establishment of Ram Mandir at Ayodhya, rebuilding of Kashi Vishwanath Mandir, digital India on scale, welfare measures for poor: water, gas, health,insurance, direct benefit transfer, semiconductors etc..
@pamtam1
@pamtam1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mork2001 😂😂😂#Vikas#Demonetization#Pegasus#EconomicCollapse#16QuartersOfContinuousGDPfall-23.6%End#HighestUnemploymentEver#LargestAdditionOfPoorEver#GDPperCapitaFallingBelowBangladesh😂😂#RafaleScam#ElectoralBondsScam😂😂😂#CoalCrisis#PowerCrisis😂😂
@pamtam1
@pamtam1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mork2001 #LargestStagflationEverInIndianHistory😂😂#LargestConsumptionDropEverInIndianHistory😂😂#LargestMSMEunitsClosedEverInIndianHostory😂😂
@pamtam1
@pamtam1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mork2001 #LargestAdditionOfGrindingPovertyMoreThanSubSaharahAfricaEverInIndianHistory
@RashidKhan-bk9hm
@RashidKhan-bk9hm 2 жыл бұрын
Bring back Bombay, Bangalore, Mysore, Calcutta, Madras, Allahabad, Mughal Serai.
@maruthumuthu4526
@maruthumuthu4526 Жыл бұрын
Dont dream pakistani
@maddy20032001
@maddy20032001 2 жыл бұрын
Stupid ruler ruling foolish voters. What else to expect?
@ricardoafonso7563
@ricardoafonso7563 2 жыл бұрын
. .................. ignorance is bliss ................. sad .................. welcome to Democracy .
@jambudwipbharat6261
@jambudwipbharat6261 2 жыл бұрын
This is stupid conversation, because no matter what reasons are given, that is only to hide the real reason. BJP wants all things Muslim removed from India, including names of things and places. If you do not understand that, you go about having these unnecessary interviews (of course it is good for Karan) and raise arguments. Both sides, these elite pseudo Englishmen that Karan represents and the dumb wit Hindutva supporting people (I would NOT call them traditionalists or even Hindus as all they are trying to create is an exact opposite, but equal to the Muslim culture i.e Green v/s Saffron, Hijab v/s Saffron stole etc..) are hypocrites and trying to justify their side of the argument by lying and making up things or spinning something bad as good or spinning something good as bad. I am so fed up of both these sides. God save our country.
@climacticlearnings994
@climacticlearnings994 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@vm3306
@vm3306 2 жыл бұрын
go wear hijab in madrassas, best is go to afghanistan, pakistan, ttp will welcome u for all ur sharias
@vm3306
@vm3306 2 жыл бұрын
@ArmanAditya Basu definitely the nail was hit on its head. the result is a meltdown
@rohanmishra3117
@rohanmishra3117 2 жыл бұрын
All places whose names were changed under Islamic rulers to signify a religious win over Bharat's civilization must be changed, and one should not have any problem in this if we really want some common meeting point between today's Hindus and Muslims.
@va-ro
@va-ro 2 жыл бұрын
🤣padhna likhna sikho o desh ke nau-jawano...🤣
@va-ro
@va-ro 2 жыл бұрын
@@rohanmishra3117 and there is no excellence in pretense ...
@unison2679
@unison2679 2 жыл бұрын
@@rohanmishra3117 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fpuepqV_3pjDZpc.html..
@Mork2001
@Mork2001 2 жыл бұрын
@@va-ro it isn’t an either or choice as you & many others like you put it. Things move ahead simultaneously on multiple fronts
@alexanderpinto9759
@alexanderpinto9759 2 жыл бұрын
Change of label, doesn't guarantee change of product! I'm still looking out for those fabled 'smart cities'! Moreover, the present day change in name of places is not an exercise in erasing history and memory of some fictitious slavery, but rather entering a new one instead!
@purvivikas1360
@purvivikas1360 2 жыл бұрын
You have no idea what a smart City is. You still believe that it is something like Android phone . For a better example look for indore it is on the way to become smartest
@purvivikas1360
@purvivikas1360 2 жыл бұрын
Fictitious slavery
@alexanderpinto9759
@alexanderpinto9759 2 жыл бұрын
@@purvivikas1360one of the cleanest in India, you mean! Smartest?! How so darlin?
@purvivikas1360
@purvivikas1360 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderpinto9759 do u even know what are criteria for a city to be smart
@alexanderpinto9759
@alexanderpinto9759 2 жыл бұрын
@@purvivikas1360 please enlighten, this poor thing that I am!
@vinodburhade5093
@vinodburhade5093 2 жыл бұрын
"Manuwadi" don't waste time in creating/making something. They believe in Cut/Copy/Pest/Change policy only. They masterfully played this game many times in Indian history, in every field of life.
@vikasm6532
@vikasm6532 2 жыл бұрын
However morally righteous you are Karan, this is another issue of limited interest to common man. Yet amongst the urbane & enlightened followers of your podcast, it will echo as ‘discrimination’ against a particular community. Adesh Gupta & his ilk care 2 hoots about it - they aim to get the majority votes by this name change exercise. This polarization strategy has been successful since time immemorial. It has been applied by all so called great leaders in politics, religion, military etc. Historically, in 11th century, Pope Urban II achieved great success in uniting Christians against Muslims in order to reclaim the Holy Land, Jerusalem. Sadly, his was the first of seven major military campaigns fought over the next two centuries known as the Crusades, the bloody repercussions of which are still felt today (ISIS, Taliban........) Indians will do well to remember this fact & instead focus on 21st century economic crusades.
@seshanm54
@seshanm54 2 жыл бұрын
"We are up against it"...we..this class of whatever.. .
@farookjanjua8757
@farookjanjua8757 Жыл бұрын
Changing names is common in Pakistan and India,- it's bad idea to change the names and distort the history.
@a.christopherraja153
@a.christopherraja153 2 жыл бұрын
If they continue they will name the country and the States after their names...like the one that of Motera cricket stadium....
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