Let’s have a chat about the latest couple of tv licence videos from The Black Belt Barrister as people have been contacting me about them Source - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y9Z-m7mKu6eud4k.html www.tvlicenceresistance.info/forum/index.php?topic=19317.0 Some useful links for you. Some stuff for sale also yes......... VPN Deals - nordvpn.com/chilli Want a video doorbell? - www.amazon.co.uk/shop/chillijoncarne/list/W6YKNEOGP4LF Need a streaming box or stick? - www.amazon.co.uk/shop/chillijoncarne/list/1HJYI0K2FLQO0 See the stuff I use to make my videos - www.amazon.co.uk/shop/chillijoncarne/list/3DZGJRINRKR7Q I have merch like hoodies and t-shirts - chillijoncarne.creator-spring.com/ - All You Need to Know About TV Licence - kzfaq.info/sun/PLMva1clw0IhzdDP4u3ajw4VD0rJD4JBni - TV Licence Goon Visits - kzfaq.info/sun/PLMva1clw0IhwlttqedbCgBp1E8ax9RiJh - TV Licence Letters - kzfaq.info/sun/PLMva1clw0IhytPD8cm81rWRHQuVaRijdR Need TV Licence Advice? Get advice from the experts (it’s a free to use forum, I’m not affiliated, they just know their stuff) - tvlicenceresistance.info/forum Need to email me? You can do it here (for faster advice use the link above)- www.tvlicencestop.co.uk/contact/

My car will do 120mph, but that's not evidence of speeding.

Watched it and can't see what people are getting hyped up about. Black Belt Barrister does have a way of delivering his chats but still, I think some people are just nuts. I've not paid TV licence for 11 years by just ignoring them, so I can confirm you are correct

BBB has that solicitor affectation where he needs to say 100 words when 10 would do.

As I pointed out in BBB's comment section, any actionable warrant is to find evidence and not a prosecution in itself. They still have to prove to a court that you have used any equipment found in any warrant search to require a tv licence. You keep talking in a way us simple muppets can understand Jon, your saving many people a fair chunk of cash with your pearls of wisdom.

Here's what I find strange: The search warrant only entitles TVL to inspect devices which are "installed and used" to watch live TV. Therefore they would have to know BEFORE inspection that a device is being used for this purpose. This would mean that guilt has already been established, defeating the point of the inspection.

I never ever disbelieved you, although I do dip into the BBB, your channel is informing us of one thing. The tv licence! And you do that in a fun and informative way, with the information well explained and all backed up. Keep up the good work and thank you

My friend saw it and tried to lecture me that I have a Tv and they will be investigating me because so many people have cancelled. I pointed her to TV licensing rules but it fell on deaf ears. 🤦‍♀️

My employer owns loads of T. V's but only uses them at shows and Exabition's as computer monitors, the company's legal department has confirmed that no T.V. licence is needed to own them.

I sometimes find BBB's legal videos confusing at times.. As he approaches subjects from a legal point of view with tons of legal gobbledegook.. I prefer plain advice that shows results.. Your advice has worked several times for me.. Basically telling the goons to jog on and close the door.. Job done..

In fairness to BBB, I think the important point was that *if* they get a warrant then you have to comply with it and provide a certain level of support, which is true. If anyone has a warrant from the court you must obey it, so if it says that you have to unlock any equipment then you have to do that. The "say nothing, close the door" advice is great advice and will almost certainly stop them getting a warrant. However, if you try that when they *do* have a warrant then you will be in breach of it and in a lot more trouble.

This is the comment I left on BBB's video "So any device which is capable of receiving live TV, regardless of whether it is or isn't used for that purpose, can get you into trouble when the TV licensing salesperson lies about it. Yes, it's very clear that we're all stuffed, including you Daniel. My TVs have no ariel connected & can't connect to iPlayer as I don't have an account, so all TV programmes we watch come from catch-up services. BUT if a TV licencing salesperson lies to a court to obtain a warrant, I will be prosecuted because I have TV (& other) equipment which can receive live TV. I also have a car which is capable of travelling at 165 mph - looks like I should expect a visit from plod & a prosecution for speeding, despite never having used the car for that purpose! That also has a (unused) WiFI hotspot facility, so potentially could also receive live TV 🤦‍♂" BBB does come out with some good stuff but, boy, can he bore!

Well said ChilliJonCarne. You've made many videos explaining in great detail and very succinctly when you need a license and when you don't. Mobile phones, tablets, computers, etc can't receive a tv signal, ergo you don't need a tv license. Maybe BBB will address this in one of his future videos. However, I do enjoy watching BBB YT channel, I find his videos on understanding the law, educational.

Hey CJC, great work as usual and always a blast. As you say, it is simple to get shot of a goon. Just say no thanks and close the door, job done. I do get a letter every single month without fail. I actually look forward to seeing which of the 10 variations they send.

I trust you Jon. You've saved me hundreds since I first came across you (ooh,err, not that way Matron) several years ago. You're a good bloke. 👍

Glad you made this video. The BBB shocked me and others with his video. Thank you for putting 1000's of peoples minds at ease. Credit where credit is due. Great video as usuall.

I do love how berserk people go and abusive they get as soon as they hear different info rather than doing their own research 🤦‍♀️ 99% of those people will also now claim it's not their fault they got so upset and they're sorry he feels like they were abusive to him

I have a MacBook Pro. You can close the lid of it and serve Steak and Chips on it if you "wanted to". It's not sold as a plate though. A TV can be much much more than a Television Signal Receiver. Many many people use them as monitors for their laptops for instance.

i always knew you were right especially with my own research alongside your good information but i think black belt barrister could have put it in more layman's terms because as you have pointed out lots of times and experienced people dont listen to everything and over-react keep the great videos coming jon

Thank you when I started watching you in September I didn't think I would be licence free by now. I was able to see as I watched very little broadcast TV just using a Freeview HDD recorder which was packing up, now scrapped, for a few programmes. I bought a Fire Stick and tested that I was able to follow the rules for 3 month, found all that I want and more.

Blackbelt Barrister did not say you would need a tv licence if you own a mobile phone or computer he stated that with a warrant tv licencing could search a phone, tablet or computer to check for tv receiving apps as these items are capable of receiving live tv without the use of an ariel.

Thank you for this video. I watched Black belt barristar and it shocked me a bit when he said the law was if I don't have a licence then they can come in my house and take every thing that they like.

The trouble with the BBB video was that he didn't make clear that it is the purpose for which the receiving equipment is installed or used rather than the mere fact of its existence. So, if, for example, a TV is only used as a computer monitor then it is not installed or used for the purpose of receiving television broadcasts, so would not reqauire a licence. But if it were used to watch live TV/iPlayer as well as being used as a computer monitor then it would. Purpose is the key. Also, 'for the purpose of' implies intention which might be evidenced either by an admission that live television/iPlayer is watched or Capita salesman is allowed in and sees connected aerial/set top box. So say nothing and don't let them in.... And BBB quoted the out-of-date original 2004 Regulations, rather than the regulations currently in force which were amended in 2016. First rule in legal research - always make sure that the legislation used to evidence legal opinion is both up-to-date and in force.

I recently watched BBB and he didn’t say that you can’t have a tv in your home , he was discussing search warrants . Not a regular visit from Capita . On his second video he went into a deep dive of a TV receiver and he did say pretty much what Chilli Jon Carne has always said . He also said the law is flawed because the BBC can’t produce a list of who is or isn’t a TV broadcast company

Great content, thanks. I thought BBB did in fact say that very same thing: that a license was only required if you viewed or recorded live broadcasts, or watched the iplayer content. I’m sure he did say that, without confusion… perhaps it was in another tv licensing vid, he often clarifies things after the event.

When I watched the BBB video referred to I had an exclaimation mark above my head ! The whole thing was very odd. Ordinarily I am happy to belive what he says ... even when some of it goes over my head at times. However, the comment about suggesting people to not video 'visitors' had me taking a double-take. My phone, having a camera, does not make it a live broadcast or Player reciever. It was the strangest thing to say.

good video jon ! youre doing a great job !

Black Belt Barrister gives guidance in his videos. On the whole like your videos they are informative. Keep up the great work.

Blackbelt said if you have a device that can receive a tv signal they can use the presence of the equipment to get a warrant to confirm if you are using it to watch tv. so don't let them them have the evidence by seeing a tv receiver in person

surely it's up to the b.b.c. to PROVE you have been watching live t.v. ? then ask yourself how would they be able to do that if you kept your door shut to them

You have saved me a fortune and as you say don’t speak to them and don’t let them in

I noticed the black belt barrister was talking about “if a warrant is issued” you have to give access. The warrant would be issued if there was evidence of live tv viewing.

When me and my late wife got our house over 5 years ago. We elected not to install an aerial or dish. When we had our 1st sales letting for a TV licence, Read it and went nope I am not using anything that needs this. Every two years I get a lettering "checking" if I need one. These videos help me reinforce my choice. I've explained to my family many a time and now I think they get it (even if they still pay the fee just for iPlayer)

I spent a while in court recently, some barristers are an absolute mess, an utter laughing stock.

All said and done Jon. ...nice wig mate! I mean m'lud! 😜👍🇬🇧

Remember the days when 10 of the neighbours used to tell you the TV Licensing van was parked nearby. We thought that it had special radar to detect people who didn't have a license until one lady put in a blog that her dad used to drive those vans and had to buy 5 newspapers to kill the day long boredom because there was absolutely noting indie the van apart from seats & a steering wheel.

I wonder how many had a go at you Chilli via email, etc, will have now not only done their homework, but will actually have the decentness to apologise to you for getting their knickers in a twist - LoL

BBB didnt sensationalise anything. He clearly spoke about what would happen if a warrant was issued. He's also clearly explained the tv licence requirements in another video. Quite why people are confused, i dont know. But it was REALLY clearly explained.

I used to watch BBB but got pulled up on my spelling (my mind is not what it was.... I live with it) not just him but another sub on his channel, they took turns at picking on me while 👍 each other nasty comments... I came away ..... I lov this channel sooooooo

Hi Jon I too do not have a TV licence as don’t watch live broadcasts /BBC iplayer. Chatting to guys in the pub some too do not have licences and seriously believed they could watch other channels but BBC. I put them onto your channel so they are informed. Thanks again for all this helpful work.

My hat is down for you sir, for not being afraid to challenge people higher up

We are very grateful for all your help…it’s you that I listen to.

BBB is a good guy but it was confusing to some. As s you say, just don't talk to them. That's all you have to do.

Another clear concise vid Jon. Well executed. 👍👍

100 television license warrants per year. I bet Capita wishes that they are called British Gas. They would be waved through then with a solar level of enthusiasm as a Spanish immigration officer dealing with an inbound flight from Gatwick!

The issue around TV Reception has been around for ages since while it is true that all TV Sets should be capable of receiving any broadcasted TV Signal within their reception catchment range it is also equally true to say that because our TV Sets are also fully capable of being used for other Lawful and Legal purposes and means other than for any Live TV Reception for our very own Private usages with using DVD's Video's and for playing Games etc; by other Private means that don't require you to plug in any TV Ariel even if you have one. This makes our TV Sets - Multi Functional that can be used for different purposes which could also include using Add-On Boxes for Satellite TV Reception. Therefore just because our TV Sets might be Multi Functional it does not mean that you have to use any unneeded Functional Capabilities which would entail that you would then need to buy a TV Licence to carry out any Non-TV Licence Functions which don't involve you gaining access to watching any Live TV Channels.

The TV licence is incorrectly named. It is a 'Broadcast Reception and iPlayer operator' Licence. It is just the same as a UK driver's licence. You need a driver's licence to operate a car on the public roads but you do NOT need a driver's licence to OWN a car. And of course the DVLA do not knock on your door when you turn 17 to enquire why (if you have legitimately chosen not to) registered for a driver's licence.

Just saw BBB's response. Glad it's all sorted, very amicably.

I absolutely knew the BBB would do an update vlog after watching this last night, he does seem to confuse things, where you're vlogs are to the point & simple! Awesome Chilli mate 🙂👍

BBB and you both do good work.

I saw that bb barrister video, and i think people have completely misunderstood his point. It sounds threatening but his point was that its too vague to be legally enforceable. That's how i understood it anyway. I think those people who emailed didn't understand, or maybe some of them were just capita/bbc trolls. Either way don't let them get you down, keep up the great work, you are the number one source of information for me 👍

I think in part what BBB was saying about phones and tablets was IF a warrant is served you may have to, on demand, show the screen of the device does not have BBC iPlayer installed. If they do not see a phone during the visit, they can’t ask you to demonstrate the screen. One of our smart tvs does have an irremovable iPlayer app…..we have it locked it off (padlock icon) which we hope will be sufficient to satisfy a court the app is not in use. A comment on this might be relevant to many viewers Jon.

BBB is just confusing the issue more with his legal jargon!!

As always, thank you for your superior videos.

BBB never said that though Jon. He was talking about if you use a tablet, iPad, laptop and smart phone that you can watch live TV on. Of course, as he said, that's if you "Watch" it on them.

People are truly thick. Not sure how BBB's video could have confused anyone. Both your stance are completely clear and congruent!

When we gave up the licence years ago, they asked if we had a TV, I told them we had three, they then told me I needed a licence, I then had to explain to them that the licence is for using not owning.

I watched his video and wasn't worried by anything he said, Seemed like a response to people claiming you can refuse entry to a warrant which you can't . . . . Closing the door on license salesmen is different.

I followed the link provided and saw the Black Belt Barrister explaining, quite clearly, a very unclear situation regarding what defines a company providing a TV service. There was very little regarding warrants or what constitutes TV receiving equipment, as I recall and I see no possible cause for anyone to criticise, far less abuse, CJ for the content of his channel. Either it was the wrong link, or those complaining have not understood what they have heard.

Don't stop what your doing. Black belt barrister, say no more. He works for the bar, in the same club which we are not a part of.

I did post to the BBB that he was suggesting that any electronic device with a screen could be regarded as reasonable grounds for a warrant. He confused me too. Thanks for the response.

You mention about disconnecting an aerial to avoid picking up broadcasts but don't forget you can also stream live TV broadcasts using your broadband connection.

You are spot on Jon , I've read the TV licence rules myself and that barrister is wrong.

When I called tv licensing to cancel my TV license in 2019....the very helpful chap on the phone specifically told me I could still watch Netflix, Prime and catch up channels (not iPlayer) and I didn't need to get rid of my TV altogether, which I said I would do if necessary. I don't bother with catch up TV as I avoid pretty much mainstream TV. I do not miss it at all and have saved myself a few quid into the bargain 👍

I have seen the BBB video you mentioned, and I perfectly understood his explanation. It wasn't in very simple language but was easily understandable, unless your English is poor. You are NOT wrong, and all the hate mail you received must have been from people who misunderstood BBB's video. I suggest they watch it again and then come back here to apologise to you.

Jon I totally agree with everything you said no disrespect to BBB I think he was trying to help, his latest The Law is flawed is very interesting about the License fee. Trouble with the internet is there are a lot of complainers, you know what they say you cant please all of the people all of the time. dont take it to heart you know the majority of us respect you for everything you do and the same applies to BBB. you both have unique experiences and knowledge in what you do best and we are all grateful for it even if some do take it a little to seriously sometimes. Thanks to you my tv aerial / birdy perch, is now redundant and removed from the house as as I said before the car roof and driveway is birdy shite free for the first time in 23 years. It cant be very easy trying to be all things to everyone out there. people emailing you for something someone else has put up on you tube is daft, why dont they comment on BBBs youtube comments page or email him? its no better than telling tales to cause possible friction. perhaps they are scared of the Barrister😂, there does seem to be a degree of scaremongering in the thumb nails and descriptions on youtube of late just to provide a hook to lure you in to watch a lot of videos, even some youtubers have been slightly missleading in their information around The Digital Identities but BBB outlines that there is no specific law at the moment that says you absolutely have to have a digital identity, whilst everyone else seems to think we do and we are completely doomed, so its swings and roundabouts in many ways, the important thing is to rember to switch off your bloody phone or laptop or computer and go and get a life occassionally thats whats really important in the end. ( says I at 11.20pm on a Tuesday Night)🤣

Bbb did mix it up for the lay person, but I followed you for years and you have always given us the up to date Correct info. Not dissing Bbb, but you are right about us avarge ppl who cancelled because we keep within the law. Many thanks 💯💯💯💯🤘🤘🤘

Based on some of what BBB said just owning a phone would mean you need a TVL because your phone could be used to watch BBC iPlayer and you could be prosecuted, or a warrant could be issued, JUST based on ownership of said device. This would be similar to the police pulling you over because you have that same phone in your car so you must be using it to ring people while you're driving.

I am not British, nor a lawyer. But IF the tv licensing bureau had these sweeping powers, they would not have spent years sending out vaguely worded messages to people, trying to scare them into paying. Rather they would be directly mailing people "Mr JonCarne, you have not paid for a license, pay now or be fined", the message would be direct without burbling on

Jon, the blurb you read out out 2:50. That if a TV is installed and set up to receive live broadcast you need a licence, regardless whether or not you intend too watch it. "a TV Set is not a receiver unless INSTALLED or used for such purposes." You then go on to say why BBB just couldn't have said that. Then you contradict that in your next sentence, saying it isn't based on the equipment it is what you used it for. Here is the confusion, is it the bit you say "Unless it is installed for such purposes", or "What you use it for". For me, if the aerial is connected and the channels have been tuned in, as per that statement you read a licence is required. Even if I do not use it for live TV. For me, this is a very grey area. My argument would be, that I have a wall mounted TV, and I plugged the aerial in, as if and when in the future I chose to buy a licence and watch live TV, I wouldn't need to bugger about taking the thing off the wall as the tele is a 72 inch model and a two man lift.

I watched the videos and I think there's been confusion on the part of the viewers. What he pointed out was IF they come with a warrant you have to let them in. Whether or not you have a TV they will look for other devices (laptop, computer, tablet or phone capable of viewing live TV. They will want to check the device's history for evidence and you must co-operate with the search. If you do not you may be charged with a separate offence. His advice comes from extensive legal knowledge. Your from years of experience of dealing with queries by viewers and subscribers. Both have value! Neither of you can be responsible for viewer interpretation!

John, you can have your aerial plugged in quite legally because you are still allowed to watch S4C and to receive digital radio stations through your TV/TV set box combo. Thanks

Jon, you sir, are 100% correct!

You have said it spot on. Doesn't matter what you have, it's what you do that counts. If you do not watch or record live TV broadcasts or watch iplayer, you don't need one, no matter how many devices you have. I think some of these videos are confusing the issue.

I'm licence free mate ,but technically aren't all TV,s capable of receiving equipment even without a box or ariel . I mean Samsung TV has live ,so does amazon , its on them to prove its being watched not that its preinstalled on the TV

Even having iPlayer installed is not evidence of watching programmes on it. Some TVs come with it pre-installed but if you do not watch the service, you do not need a licence. It's like going on your Web browser to the BBC Web site and they put up a box in a page, saying "click here to watch live". You cannot be done for having a browser or visiting the web page. Only if you were seen to click the live TV box or admit to watching it.

Keep going Chills. Great work,

You make great videos CJC and it's a great shame that your followers are calling you out after watching BBB's video. You both give out fantastic advice and those bugging and telling you that you're wrong did not get BBB's meaning as he is on your side. All he was saying is that to get a search warrant a TV licence "officer" (goon!) has to present reasons for suspicion to a magistrate. He pointed out that the possession any device capable of receiving live TV broadcasts COULD be regarded as suspicious. He did not say that it WOULD be or that a magistrate would grant a warrant. What he said bears out what you have always said, "Close the door on them"

The point Black Belt Barrister made in his video was in relation to the TV license salesmen making a claim for a search warrant in connection with ANY device that might be capable of installing iPlayer. If they saw a phone / tablet / laptop / PC etc, then, in theory, they would have enough evidence to make an application for a search warrant. At least that was how I understood what he said.

Ok, what's so hard to understand 🤔 no tv receiver. No need for a license. It's that simple, I have an ariel but it's wrapped up and not connected to the tv. Still don't need a license. My tv isn't even tuned in. What's wrong with people? Jon you do a grand job and make it as simple as can be to understand 🤷🏻‍♂️

Two vital changes were made during the last decade: 1 You no longer have to provide details when buying a new TV 2 The BBC was forced to hide iPlayer behind a registration wall, this will hopefully lead to a paywall at some point in the future. Since the BBC was forced to hide iPlayer behind a registration wall you no longer need a license if you stick to using on-demand and catch-up. Yes, a loophole was deliberately created, but it was created to stop the BBC getting its grubby claws on the internet, the BBC was desperate to license the internet hence the reason behind iPlayer in the first place. The BBC mindset if they have an internet app they'd have a legal argument to extend the licence to cover the internet, but that argument was blasted and the BBC was forced to hide iPlayer behind a registration wall. Hopefully the registration wall will turn into a paywall forcing the BBC to create content rather then churn out rubbish because there's no insensitive to do so on free money.

You have the trust of us of us all.

Well said Jon - 'Triple B' should remember those important points you raise here. Another flaw in BBB's video, is that he refers to the GUIDANCE he received from the BBC/TVL/CRAPita, as 'LAW'. Whilst there are many 'laws' that rely on guidance for interpretation, Guidance is NOT 'LAW'. Unless it is specifically in the ACT, then the guidance is just that. That's a big rookie mistake BBB has made, which is easy to see if all he knows is Legalise language that blindsides many that claim to 'practise law' like him. Keep up the good work Jon and don't listen to the Trolls under the BEEB Bridge :)

Surely the simplest way to deal with the BBC is to use the Breach of Contract argument. The TV licence fee is a contract between the BBC (provider) and the viewer (user) where for a set fee each year we the user we agree to pay that fee for unbiased, quality TV programmes. The BBC agrees to make and present unbiased, quality TV programmes in return for the licence fee (TV Tax). This contract has a name and is called the Royal Charter. If I breach this contract by not paying to watch BBC programmes, the BBC can take me to court, have me fined up £1,000 plus costs, or even imprisoned, for my breach of contract. When the BBC breaches the Royal Charter they merely apologise and carry on regardless. They face no punishment whatsoever and this is wrong! They should be fined or have the licence fee reduced for each and every failure to comply with the Royal Charter! If the licence fee was reduced by £5 per offence, they would soon stop their bullshine or go out of business. Personally I believe that the BBC should be forced to go subscription only, as they already have a subscription service, Britbox, which they operate in addition to the TV Tax, such is their greed and wastefullness. In the 21st Century with literally hundreds of channels and subscription service providers, there is no place for a state sponsored television service! The whole TV Tax system is biased and one sided, with the BBC happy to waste our money and beg for more! Defund the BBC now!

Sorry you got a backlash on this. x

Jon, I had seen the video by the Barrister of the phone being sufficient reason for a warrant and I must say that I was startled. I am very glad that you have clarified this and it is always a pleasure to listen to you! I find the Barrister very legalistic and concerning his moaning about toxic comments, he came across to me as a high and mighty lord who the viewer should listen to on bended knees. I had actually switched off after seeing the first few minutes of that video and refused to go down on my knees and make obeisance with my head touching the floor. If this condescending Barrister cannot take the comments then personally he can hoppit, for all I care.

If people had listened properly to what BBB actually said, there would be no confusion. The law is complex and, as BBB said, flawed. He was attempting to point out the details of it for those who wanted to know. You can't blame him for people's lack of understanding.

I have watched the video and found it pretty straightforward, he did not say you need a TV license if you just own a TV and he also admitted that he had several TVs and only used them to watch catchup TV such as Netflix, he also said that he had several mobile phones and ipads none of which had BBC iplayer on them. The only thing he said which concerned me was that if they had a warrant that would also give them the right to check your mobile phone as they could argue that a mobile phone could be used to access broadcast TV services and also they might want to check your search history to see if you have accessed such services. I think that may worry some people as we all have mobile phones and if they have a warrant they might want to check your phone or tablet and you have to give them reasonable access or they could argue that you obstructed them in their duties of executing the warrant

I quite agree. My apologies as I questioned the BBB on a few of his statements and he has never replied and caused a lot of confusion. It has resulted in the following action on my part. My TV’s are not connected to an aerial plus I do not watch the BBC or live TV and as you rightly say I can still receive live and BBC broadcast via the internet by the installed software. I’m now on their hit list for calls that I regularly record on my CCTV as I’m frequently away. I have prepared a letter stating that, I don’t watch Live or the BBC, I will not answer any verbal questions for obvious reasons but will answer any written questions with legal advice. The letter is to be taken as notice and will be objected to if this letter is used in any evidence submitted to obtain a search warrant as it does not bear evidence of breaking the current law of Watching a live Broadcast only assuming it. The letter also states that all rights of entry are now withdrawn to any connected with TV licensing and request an immediate vacation of my property reminding them that all movements are recorded by 5 Cameras as in previous calls and all illegal actions will be submitted as evidence of an invasion of privacy and attempting to obtain illegal or assumed evidence. Finally I will refuse to “Grant” access into my property and any force used will be contested by legal representation and compensation for damages and cost against the individual and sue the T V licensing company for claiming assumed evidence as actual evidence which I considered as a liable accusation. In the event of any police presence and their insistence of opening the door I will remind them as far as I’m aware they are there only to prevent any disturbance of the peace. I wold be quite happy to allow entry to the officer to inspect my property but not the TV licensing authority as their application was based on assumed evidence with out any proof of my watching live TV and there is no regulation to say I cannot have equipment in my possession to do so as I require that equipment to watch my streaming on demand programmes when in hotels etc. my apologies for this long reply but I have tried to cover all legal aspect in the event they call when I’m in and refuse to open the door and pass the letter through the letter box. One final point I would like to clear up which you could possibly answer does anyone know if the TV Licensing Authority extends to UK citizens watching live TV and BBC programs when abroad and no TV licence is required.

In the old days schools and others business used to glue a plate over the RF in on back of TV's so only component or scary input could be used to get round the TV licence requirement. This was before clarification that this wasn't needed.

Appreciate what you’re saying about the definition of tv receiving equipment, but there is no necessity nor requirement to ‘plug an aerial in’ (3.22) as an aerial is not needed to receive television broadcasts.

I think the way BBB explains stuff is confusing, he whines alot and repeats himself... realy can't listen to him for long at all... like 5 seconds max!! Your info is clear and straight forward. Anyone can understand what you say. 🙂

He gets abuse too. Sometimes to his work email. It's possible viewers of this channel do so, same as they seem to be coming down on you. Addressing him directly in this way though, I'm not sure whether that was the best thing as it's gonna make him even more of a target by these people. He's just trying to help people like you are. If you put yourself in the public eye you're gonna open yourself up to abuse. You just gotta be careful that damage control for yourself doesn't fan the flames for him and vice versa. Ok...just finished the entire video now and you really did yourself no favours with the way you ended it. You addressed his mentioning of abuse at the start of his video, yet you started yours exactly the same way. I have to be honest, that made my respect for you go down a tad. You're both honest people trying to help others. It really doesn't have to be like this. What you are doing without meaning to is creating tribalism. There are crazies out there that will use your opinions and take them to the extreme. Use them as an excuse to attack him. I'm sure (or at least I hope) you didn't mean it like that but it won't matter to them. You receive abuse too. You gotta have each others backs. I'm not saying you have to praise the guy or agree with everything he says but maybe at least a disclaimer that you don't condone the behaviour. This distances your from them and doesn't give them more license to be arses to people who are just trying to be helpful. God, that ended up long. If you actually read that all then thank you for taking the time and know that I'm neither coming down on you nor white knighting him. I respect both of you as content creators and neither of you deserve abusive comments or emails.

Probably the best way to explain this is to the use the exampe of a VCR: Back in the day of the Video Recorder, you had one and if it was plugged in, tuned in and connected to a TV aerial you would need a license (You have a device capable of recording live TV) even if you didn't even have a telly! BUT if that VCR was NOT connected to an aerial the you DIDN'T need a license (cause you only watched rentals from Blockbuster). So the same with a phone, xbox, computer, etc - the analagy being that if you install software (or activate/set up pre-installed software) then you need a license. If you haven't installed, activated or setup the software then a PC, Phone, etc is just that - a computer or a phone and they don't need a TV license. It's what you do with it that is the important bit.

You can own as much equipment as you want. It matters not that the equipment could be used to receive TV transmissions. What matters is what you use the equipment for. If you do not watch TV programmes as they are being transmitted ( i.e LIVE BROADCASTS) then you do not need a licence for ANY type of equipment, whether it is capable of receiving TV broadcasts or not. It is HOW you use it , not what it CAN do, that is important. Even if it is connected to an aerial, does not mean you need a licence. You can connect to anything you like as long as you do not acccess LIVE TV or use BBC Iplayer.

Sorry to hear you got the shit end of the stick mate, people need to wake up and listen.

You should contact BBB and get him to do an update to inform the people what the truth is in simple form, not legalize. As you said ignore them and say nothing.

BBB point was that some devices including TVs have pre-installed software that makes them into a tv receiver, so as long as they have a internet connection they are already installed for live TV even if your not using for that, BBB point is don't show of devices that can potentially be used as receivers as that can become evidence that could later lead to a search warrant.

Tosh, of course you can plug an aerial into a TV. I'm perfectly entitled to listen to the radio on my TV.

Hi Jon if your viewers didn’t watch the video before it was about a Nigerian lady that got prosecuted for TV TAX and I believe you also had that video but he explained from that prospective but I know what you mean as I was a little confused but because I watch the first vid it made a bit more sense . I to respect Blackbetbarrister but I’m not going anywhere as your advise helps before you get gooned . Thank you for all you do TOP DRAW .