Ohhh makes sense. Thanks for the insight!

Thank you! This is the kind of thing that goes on in my head so it's nice to let it out in video form for people who actually enjoy it hehehe

Agree 100%

Thank you! 🙏

Thank you! Will do!

Thank you! 🙏🏼

Nice! That's great to hear! I'm quite happy with mine as well and very excited for the WoB and its accents 😊

Thank you! It's an Amiibo. Got it in a bundle with our old Nintendo Switch way back in like 2018, I think hehe

Thank you! Go for it! Those Geekark accents pair with other sets really well hehe

Thank you so much! 🙏🏼

Thank you! Yes, the ePBT is thick enough that no light can shine through.

Wow thank you so much! I will definitely keep going as long as finances allow it lol

Yeah I've seen those. Would love to check them out but the shipping would be kinda steep to here in the Philippines hehe

Thank you! Hmmm as far as OEM profile, there's unfortunately really nobody making those aside from Tai-Hao and I think they're all doubleshot. Yongqiu on Shopee has some OEM dye-sub sets but I don't think any of them are strictly BoW. You could also try a uniform profile like DSA, XDA, or NP. My next video is gonna be on an NP set from KBDFans. They're expensive though. Yongqiu, Cuxiu, and KBDFans are all on Shopee and are my go to recommendations for in-stock keycaps 😁

Mistel PBT would be my answer but for some reason they have really bad interference with my gateron yellows. Or u could go to oklb and get some north interference metal washers. It doesnt feel mushy or affect the sound. 120 pc for $6

Yes pretty much all keycap sets include a 6.25u spacebar

I don't have any ePBT anymore so I can't confirm but my experience with the Bobas is that they don't interfere with Cherry even when north-facing so they should be fine with scooped homing keys. Haven't tried the oil kings yet.

Thank you so much! Good luck with your BoW search hehe

​@@CaloysKeyboards Always wanted to have a wob keycap set with Japanese sub legends, but the plain wob are also very clean. I think I can only buy one set as they look very similar. What would you suggest sir caloy? Any good recommendation for wob with jap sub legends if ever? :D

Thank you so much! Reverse dye sub means that they actually dye the color of the key all around the legend. So on Dreamscape, the colored keys are actually made of white PBT plastic and the color is dyed all around the letter. This is necessary when the legend you want to print is a lighter color than the key it's on. This is because the dye mixes with the color of the key so a lighter colored dye would just disappear on a darker key. Hope that was clear hehe

@@CaloysKeyboardsohhh okay, thanks for the explanation!

Thank you! Improving the production has been really fun hehe What are your favorite profiles? I really need to try out more. So far I've only tried Cherry, OEM, and KAT.

@@CaloysKeyboards Yeah. So glad I got my notifications on! KAT > SA > OEM for me. Cherry and DSA had too small surface areas for me. I want to try ASA or XDA though :)

Pretty similar thickness. KAT is very smooth whereas ePBT has a rough texture. Not sure if legends are included in build quality but my KAT set had some smudged legends while the ePBT is pristine.

@@CaloysKeyboards I finally tried them all and KAT BOW. I ended up with ePBT GOK :)

Geekark, for sure: looks better, kit covers more layouts

I haven't. Shipping to the Philippines is kinda expensive hehe

@@CaloysKeyboards oh okay. I was building a white themed board and needed a BoW set that doesn’t have the ugly legends of some cheaper sets and saw HK Gaming and Drop so wanted to see if you’ve tried them or not.

Thank you! 🙏🏼

If it ain't broke!

It's hard to say for sure but judging by the Geekark accent kits I have, which use a newer mold, newer Geekark sets should have very little warping.

@@CaloysKeyboards ok sweet! by the way, I’m Filipino too! nice to see another Filipino keyboard youtuber

Salamat po! Hehe

I don't know, actually 😅

I was looking for this comment too, but based on the color I guess it's r1, because r2 got a much more yellowish tone than r1, and even when compared to the geekark one

Do better, KZfaq algorithm 😂! Thank you so much! 🙏🏼

I'm still waiting on the perfect set to blow that amount of money on. I'm spending way too much and not earning on this channel right now lol. I'm not super high on Olivia. I think if Night Runner or DMG ever run again, I'll be very tempted hehe

@@CaloysKeyboards nice also thanks for explaining things clearly!

You're welcome! 😊

I've just compared with GMK and they are the exact same height. I've already sold my ePBT so I can't check that one, unfortunately, but I do remember the ePBT sitting on the switch higher than the others even though the keycaps themselves were the same height.

@@CaloysKeyboards awesome, thanks for checking! Great vid definitely helped with my purchase decision!

Thank you!

Thank you! Great choice 😊

Yeah don't sweat it. For keycaps, there is an accessibility problem. I wish HK would just make their own original colorways: work with some artists or hire their own.

Thank you! I had a Gliging set in my last keycap showdown hehe. Probably not going to be covering any more black on white for a good long while lol

@@CaloysKeyboards link to video? Thanks

Here it is: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g7-KlK9jqpbUgHk.html It's also linked up in the description of this one hehe

@@CaloysKeyboards does Yongiu also go by Gliging?

Yes, as far as I can tell Yongqiu is the person behind Gliging. Yongqiu Huang's profile photo on Facebook says Gliging.

Oh man, yeah, I imagine the interference would be worst with silent switches. It's really annoying that they go with scooped without a non-scooped alternative. On their ABS sets, F and J are just scooped and not barred! The group buy sets at least, have just barred.

@@CaloysKeyboards I've also tried the ABS version of the EPBT. And yea same problem. Darn it EPBT 😂

I'm booked for the Geekark White on Black but I don't really know of many other options in Cherry profile. It'd have to be GMK and ePBT ABS. I don't think I'm financially prepared for a GMK purchase yet lol

I have the Geekark WoB now and that's full reverse dye-sub just like the Dolch. I looked closely at it and there are some very minor scratches from normal wear and tear (keycap puller, keycaps scraping against each other) but just like with the BoW, you'd need to be looking at it with the right angle of light to really see. I tried scratching a key with some metal tweezers and you can make a pretty deep permanent scratch, but even that isn't super noticeable from normal angles. I wouldn't worry too much about the scratching. The dye sub is pretty impeccable. I have zero problems with it. The legends do seem a bit thinner though and the bracket key legends are strangely big, like stretching all the way to the edge of the top surface. I'm really very happy with the set and I think the ~$80 group buy price for it is fair. The in-stock price of $100 though, I think, is a bit too high.

@@CaloysKeyboards Oh I didn't know they already sent out some units or had an in-stock offer. Or did you get this off their Eastern launch? I would be interested to see a in-depth review of the actual product - not often we get the chance to see the production unit befor ethe GB ends. Thank you for the info so far, I might still jump on it before November 4th ... but 250€ for all the sets I'd want is just a lot.

I got it from Keybox, who I believe is based in China, and does group buys and sells products to the Philippines. I do plan on making a video for the GA WoB, BoW, and the accents but the WoB accents aren't available yet and so I'm still waiting on them to complete my set 😅. Oof that is a lot of money. I will say that GA isn't the best quality you can get in terms of keycaps so you may be disappointed considering the money spent.

I'll consider it but it would probably end up being mostly doubleshot sets as there aren't that many reverse dye sub ones hehe

Yeah the options are slim in terms of backlit keycaps. There's the super cheap ones, Tai-Hao, and then the pudding ones from gaming brands. Unfortunately, I don't really like backlit keycaps so I probably won't be covering them. Sorry 😅

Yesss great-looking set hehe. It's still GMK on Keycaplendar lol

If you're using a south-facing PCB, then only the F and J keys can have interference. Sorry I don't understand your second question. Unmaddable? Who said?

@@CaloysKeyboards 3:45 "It's kind of 'maddening'".

Oh you mean me lol. It's maddening when you're trying to find it and it seems to change depending on so many different factors. During normal use, on a south-facing keyboard, it's not noticeable at all.

@@CaloysKeyboards what is you have northfacing? I dont know what the tofu 60 has

@@keyboardkevin5949 North facing keyboards will have interference with cherry profile keycaps for sure

Could be. Another commenter pointed out that the two might have just bought the same keycap materials and then did their own dye-subbing.

@@CaloysKeyboards HK Gaming said they produce the plastic injection for many actors out there, But that they mostly don't do the dye sub. But when ask whether a company is their client or not, they always refuse to answer.

Ohhh, well that seems pretty definitive. They make good keycap material hehe.

Thank you! 🙏🏼

Yeah I'm tempted to get another BoW base kit lol

I joined in via Keybox but it ended a long time ago. If you're in the PH, you could try messaging Keybox directly on Discord: KeyBox#0931

@@CaloysKeyboards yup, I'm in PH, I'll try messaging KeyBox thanks! I'm looking for good WoB keycaps, because for me it looks sleek. I got myself TaiHao keycaps, it's good but it doesn't have extra keys for my RK84, especially the 1u alt, fn, and ctrl keys. The nav keys also does not have correct heights. ePBT WoB's currently out of stock. Considering buying from Yonqiu or Geekark. Would you recommend Yongqiu or wait for Geekark's GB?

Yeah WoB is hard because it needs to be either doubleshot or reverse dye-sub. I would recommend Geekark but you may have to settle for extras which will be more expensive and the group buy price was already pretty expensive (4125 PHP). I think the only WoB that Yongqiu has is the PBT doubleshot one. I personally really dislike the legends on that one as they're pretty inconsistently sized. But those are pretty cheap and aside from the legend sizing, I hear they're pretty good quality.

Disc? Hehe EDIT: Figured it out lol. Discord, right? Not sure there'd be much interest in that yet hehe. And I don't really like discord. Using it makes me feel like a boomer lol

Speaking to the camera is really hard for me lol. Once it starts recording, I just start speaking unnaturally 😅. Just based on my one set, I'd say ePBT is great if you can stomach the price hehe

@@CaloysKeyboards😂 you're informative so its all good. yeah that's what bothers me the price. Too rich for my blood hahaha

Unfortunately for me, my brain now considers ePBT "midrange" 😨😂

I really need to sell some of these lololol

Er I don't remember saying that 😅

@@CaloysKeyboards you said geekark is in third place haven't you?

I only said that in terms of legend cohesion since the thicknesses aren't as consistent as they or on the other two. I never ranked them overall.

Well there are a lot more factors than just sound hehe. But yeah if your primary concern is price and availability then HK wins out handily.

@@CaloysKeyboards well i was just giving myself opinion on how the sound was, they all sounded the same it was just hk's spacebar that sounded less hollow, i genuinely couldn't tell when you were switching off apart from all the spacebars

Gotcha. Appreciate the input 😊

Condolences 🙏 😂

Care to elaborate? Not really familiar with them outside of keycaps hehe

@@CaloysKeyboards what i did is searched them in r/mechanicalkeyboards and it showed me what people are talking about. you should read for yourself tbh, its bad.

@@CaloysKeyboards unfortunately they’re very unprofessional and have told designers that they will clone their keycaps without permission and do a better job than them. Basically spitting in their faces. But thanks for staying firm on not supporting clones. A lot of newcomers to the hobby will send hate to people who don’t support clones when they don’t really get all the hard work that goes into designing a keycap set. (I don’t buy clones but I also don’t judge those who buy them, but I also won’t advocate for clones. You can see this attitude reflected in r/customkeyboards. It’s just a pain when people reduce clones to “iTs JuST A cOlOrWaY.”)

Yeah, I feel guilty about featuring these scummy guys in two videos now. I tell myself I didn't know about them when I bought the set initially. And that I'm just trying to make content with what I have, as a small creator. But I do still feel bad about it so I'm glad to just put them behind me from this point on. The clones discourse is pretty bad. I actually do want to make more content around that discussion but it's not worth the damage it'll eventually do to my mental health.

@@CaloysKeyboards nah you're good man, you aint done nothing bad haha, not to mention these caps were highly recommended before all the drama, so it's not as if you're to blame. Just keep up the good work!

Legit 😎

I obviously disagree with your definition of clone. It needn't be akin to a literal genetic clone for it to be problematic. Design is the majority of the appeal of keycap sets, at least in my opinion, so copying that even without having the same materials or legending process is problematic, again in my opinion. And homage implies respect and praise to someone or something. I think that if you asked biip or mito or any of these other designers who are getting their keycap set designs cloned, they would tell you that they feel disrespected by it. As for clothes and phones, if there were copying at the level of these keycap set clones then yeah, I'd have a problem with it too. But that certainly doesn't mean I'm going to boycott an entire industry or type of product, as a result.

Yeah, everyone has a black on white and HK's is actually unique with the blue accents. I don't think anyone has a problem with this set in particular, it's the other stuff hehe. Or maybe I've just not seen the conversations.

I mean, you kind of answered your own question, it's not the colorway, it's the company.