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@Duncan Calvin Flixportal

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Facts. This video makes no since. Don’t matter how you talk in America. People that don’t speak English at all come up America and get a job with zero proven English.

@@904alexthegreat "No Sense", not since as in "since 1950". You are product I see.

Classic Yeah typo. Also who cares. As long as you get the point

@@904alexthegreat I care and you are okay with ignorance, this is why America is the state it is in now.

@@EricBrownBey You are spellchecking Mr Binder but you didn’t proofread your responses because you left a word out of both of your replies.

interesting so they don't speak differently?

thats actually really cool

Buy Canadian do you mean the original Canadian language prior to European domination? Or do you mean the language of the killers of that area of North America the French?

We aint AFRICAN. Thanks for Recognizing They confused us to think we are Africa.With some Slave Trade Story That didn't HAPPEN... None of our Grandparents heard of African Grandparents or SLAVERY 😆

@Marvin Zimmerman I'm not AFRICAN. I know my family history. All AMERICAN

EXACTLY. It makes them sound SO damn dumb!

Lol

True dat!

Right an ion een much care what dey have ta say🤷🏾‍♂️

LOL

riamykeil ~ Sounds like it was made 15 minutes after slavery ended.

@@phairplaigh That wasn’t even funny.Why would you joke about slavery????

I think the early 2000s.

The problem occurs when you don't have the ability to speak or comprehend standard English. This can be for many reasons. Like for example it is discouraged by other black people. When you try to speak it you are told that you are trying to sound white. This in a sense cripples the black community by enforcing the idea that if you learn to speak standard English in an educated, articulate and intelligent way, you are selling out. You are a traitor. As a result some black people don't develop there ability to speak and write standard English and fall behind.

I'm a linguist who came here to get materials on ebonics assignment, my first language isn’t English. This is so interesting.

@@illosionmouneen2468 please look up Dr. Thomas Sowell’s “The Origins of Black history”. It’s around a 2 hours long (very well researched) documentary that goes to the the beginning of it all. It’ll surprise you! (Spoiler alert… it wasn’t from African descent) Take care. Hope all is well.❤

King Chibot It's not called "proper", it's called Standard American English. It's a dialect. African American Vernacular English is just as much English as Standard American English. You don't say that speaking British, Scottish or Australian is broken, so why should you say so for AAVE? It has its own grammar, vocabulary and pronunciation and it's own history of origin. JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER ENGLISH DIALECTS. Stop denoting the value of a dialect based off of the people speaking it.

AAVE is not a language of its own, it's a copy-cat language of English, spoken improperly. AAVE is inconsistent. For example, in a sentence, where some people use the word "has," others say "have." Most people don't know how to properly conjugate verbs, and we have a plethora of pronunciations for different words. AAVE is the inarticulate and improper version of English. If we blacks want our own language, we need to start from scratch instead of messing up someone else's language!

A halfrican guy axed a black guy to spell breakfast, he spelled it thus: *Breffus.*

Ask any black person who speaks with a *blackcent* to spell the word *"BREAKFAST.*

Wow, so your saying blacks don't read? I am black and I read ,racist fool! So many whites being dickheads in the comments. It is annoying !

Thank you!!!

Yeah, that """artist""" made me want to jump off a fucking bridge. Cringe.

Jamara Geechie Newell fo reelz foo.

the spoken word artist got on my nervessss i hate Black ppl that pride themselves on speaking “proper English” or “talking educated”. jus another way to demonize ebonics n project they self-hate onto other Black ppl.

She was annoying the hell out me.

@Blacks Love Oppression Culture I didn't get you. Did I say something disapproving ?

And I thought I was the only one who noticed this. Curious...

That's pretty much where it came from. Areas of very low education and it just spread. Now it's basically a language evolving into something nobody can understand....and then wonder why it's hard to get hired.

Then you wonder why southern states are so poor and the education system in the south is as well.

Because a black person made it, it shouldn't be surprised that it's incomprehensible.

y'all need to quit

Because ebonics is NOT "a legitimate structured dialect" at all.

Interesting point. I think it should be defended and if it garnered the proper respect as other Creole and dialects I think publishing dictionaries or grammar books for writing and spelling would be nice. But honestly, I think most people who use aave won't write how they speak in formal settings as long as they figure early on with formal training that there's a way to write and speak formally. They learn to be bidialectal and code switch. And of course I believe its important to learn standard english

For your point number 4) due to aave being use in pop culture and also other races or groups being raised in certain areas, especially modern day meme culture. It is very possible for other races to pick up this dialect so you could potentailly collaborate with "others". And for myself personally, I use aave for its grammatical features at best so my vocabulary will not be 'affected'. Even if this was such a concern, aave is merely a dialect at best not a language so it can use standard English words complex or not to convey ideas. For example if the vocab is a concern it can adopt loan words as many other languages including English does when the native vocab won't suffice.

Later but not least I wanted to adress your point number 6. As I stated earlier aave is a dialect "at best" there are many times when I have used aave features with white or other groups who would supposedly not understand me but in fact they had no trouble to understand me. Now honestly the "slang" aspect of aave is questionable but if one was to used these terms in a setting where one is meant to be understood like seeking help with mental or personal issues, I don't see why the professional couldn't ask what a particular phrase meant.

You're speaking from a good place, but at some point we have to be honest. A lot of things are seen as dumb because of who we are and there's nothing that we can do that'll ever change that. We can change over and over and over. We can talk like them, walk like them, write like them, eat like them, try to make our hair look like theirs, make our skin look like them and anything possible to become as "American" as possible and the attitudes won't change. The problem is not what we do. It's who we are. This is proven by the fact that anytime non blacks do things that we're known for, they're seen as cool, trendy, creative, etc. Look at how rap was seen as the scum of music, but when Eminem came along, then people finally respected it. Look at how twerking was ratchet and hoe-ish, but now when white girls do it, it's sexy. There's a pattern here

I'd like to respond to your points. Like I said, it sounds like you have good intentions, I'm just giving you my perspective on this 1) Our creative mind is certainly NOT limited from a lack of words. Our music should be more than enough proof of that. Especially Hip Hop. Okay, some are more lyrical than others lol but rap is often performed in whatever accent the rapper already has and usually has certain words or phrases that come from their hometown. A good example of this is TI. He is certainly not speaking this "proper English" (I don't like this phrase, but I'll use it for clarity). Despite this, his music is rhythmically creative and lyrically creative. Hip Hop is essentially poetry using our accents and slang. I think that's pretty creative. Not to mention, there's a lot of Black authors, movie directors, etc. 2) Using AAVE doesn't limit our skill in proper English any more than a bilingual Hispanic speaking Spanish at home. In our case, it's actually easier than anyone else because it's English with a different accent and expression. Our community having issues with proper English skills are not caused by us speaking with an accent. It's caused by the lack of education. If someone is educated on reading and writing, they'll have those skills, but again, education is not as available to some of us. Education is more of a privilege than people realize (and a lot of Black people take this for granted too, but I'm just making a point) 3) This has truth to it, but again, this is more so to do with everything discussed in point 2. It's not a matter of speaking how we speak. It's a matter of not being educated. 4) Not true. If you know when it's appropriate to speak certain ways, you don't have this problem. For example, if I'm with Black people who speak AAVE, I know to communicate that way because trying to speak to them like I would speak to a white audience would be as foreign to them as me speaking in AAVE to white people. 5) See point 4. It's the same thing 6) I will tell you from my view as a Black man, who grew up in a military household/surburban setting, raised by parents from semi-suburban households from the South, and who just earned my associate's degree. MOST Black people who have degrees, highly respected careers, etc. are not going to speak the same way at work and at home. My mom sounds like "country bumpkin" at home lol, but on the phone, you would probably swear she was a white woman from the city. This is what we call "code-switching" and it's a respected skill to have for those of us who know what it's like having to fight between being competitive in a society that pretty much demands assimilation from everyone and also having to remember who we are and where we came from so that we don't give other Blacks the impression that we view them as beneath us. 7) Speaking AAVE is not "willful ignorance". I don't even think that phrase makes sense given the definition of ignorant, which is to not know any better because of a lack of experience. Like I said, it's more like an accent than anything. It's not like we're just making up words. The words are English. If you don't know the history of it, you should look into it. Long story short, how we sound is a product of our history of being mostly amongst ourselves for about 400 years and counting. It started off as slaves not knowing any English and having to pick up by ear, so they would only use the words that were most important (similar to how immigrants sound when they hardly know English). The next step was the slaves putting words in the order that made sense to them bc in their various languages, they had different grammar structure and being unable to speak it, they had to try and make English make sense for themselves. Then, when they were freed from slavery, segregation isolated them from white communities and still to this day, most ethnic groups live in neighborhoods amongst fellow members of the same group. Again, how we speak is not "willful ignorance" it's a product of our history and current situations. 8) There is truth to this as well. I remember being seen as some "other" form of Black to Black people and non-Black people, but this issue was caused because some Black people saw AAVE the same way you see it and encouraged their kids to avoid sounding like that. This led to some Blacks having an elitist attitude to other Blacks because they learned "proper English". My dad encouraged me to learn how to function on both sides, and I thank him for that because it helps a lot. 9) WRONG. Absolutely wrong. As you saw in number 6, I am a perfect example of someone who's learned to do both. My mom has a bachelor's degree. One of my aunts got a master's degree and my other aunt's a doctor and none of us speak "proper English" 24/7. My dad didn't go to college, but he makes pretty decent money and he's smart because he took the time to research anything he wants to know. 10) Are you saying Black people choose to be outcasts? I hope not. If you mean us choosing to speak however we feel and not feeling ashamed of it, yes, we do that. I do not think there is anything wrong with having an accent, but that's just my opinion. 11) This point is very irrelevant at best, but I'd argue it's pretty ignorant that you would think this is why people turn to crime. A lot of Black people have come from dysfunctional households. The way Black Americans are raised is kinda similar to Caribbeans, but the problem is that a lot of Black Americans enforce things like respecting authority and getting out of the hood by any means necessary, not necessarily education. As you see from my family, we value and encourage education. I'm not some special case. This is the case for a lot of us, but there's also a lot of us who embody the former values I mentioned and no statistical data will accurately describe what's going on in that aspect of our lives. btw Black people have never gained much from any government or societal aid because a lot of these aids will actually go to non Black minorities. I know that's not the story that FOX News will tell you, but that's the truth. Most of the time, if you're Black and broke, you're just broke and assed out. You don't get jobs easier for being Black. You don't get in schools easier for being Black. All of that stuff you hear is bullshit. I know because I'm Black and most of the time I'm under the pressure to "represent my race" to these people. Any time I mess up, it's expected because I'm Black. If I do anything well, I'm seen as some exceptional "good Black guy". 12) Hip Hop has a lot of bullshit, but you gotta understand that it's financially backed by rich white men. Let that sink in for a moment. Rich white men are promoting negative examples at a much higher rate than those of substance. Granted, we don't have to participate in the problem. However, that's not related to AAVE. It is an issue and I agree with this argument, but this is a different discussion. 13) I addressed this too. I agree that we need to learn how to speak in different settings. Just like how immigrants know that they have to at least know minimal English to get by in the workplace, we have to know that we need to know how to speak to people outside of our community. However, I don't agree that speaking AAVE at home or amongst ourselves somehow makes us less intelligent. I simply don't agree with that because I'm living proof of it. If we learn the way to speak in business settings vs casual settings, then I think everything is good. To say we need to be rid of it is to erase a part of us and our history. 14) This is more than enough reason to keep it around. I'm not saying all AAs have to speak it. If there are Black people who prefer to speak the "proper English", by all means, they should do it. Just understand that as I said earlier, it's not about how we talk, how we dress, etc. None of that shit matters to anyone else. We're all Black at the end of the day and because of that we'll always be seen as the other because compared to the other people in the world, our features stand out the most. We're the only ones who get as dark as we do, have hair like ours, etc. Our history is tainted with colonialism and racism which is why people see us the way they do. It's not even intentional. It's subconscious. They literally can't control it because they don't even know it's there for the most part. Whether you're Black or not, you seem like someone who has good intentions and is generally a good person, but even you should take more time to educate yourself about us. There's a lot more about what it means to be Black that you're going to have to educate yourself on if you want to know why we have chosen to not completely assimilate into America in all facets of life.

Not it is not an act of "rebellion". Even if that were once true the justification and rational for speaking that way is outdated. Nice try though.

Your parents teach you how to talk, not your parents. Why do you think it is uneducated or wrong to use different grammar than you do? "I be at the park" sounds like something perfectly reasonable for me to say, if "I be" means the same thing as "I will be". For example, phrases like "she a student" is used all the time in languages like russian. Are the russians who say that uneducated, childlish or dumb? No, because it is correct according to russian grammar. "I be at the park" or "she a student" is correct according to African American Vernacular english.

Jason West It's institutional because instructors/teachers in too many situations not only don't try to correct the verbiage, many speak it themselves - or "theyselves"...

Hey "I be at the park" means "I usually am at the park" or "I have a tendency or habit of being at the park on a regular basis" its just a way to convey that sort of information in one word.

you are rude calling my people uneducated. Go earn yourself some respect .

Yudah El where you skin color come from? Groenland okok

@@yudahel8521 Native Americans don't claim your black ass.

Dude, you're wrong. Africans look just like us. The "starving African" commercials we saw growing up is not what represents all of Africa. Africa is a continent of 54 countries. There's nothing homogeneous about them/us. I see you have dreads. You know Africans wore dreads? And braids and afros? Those are our people, man. Love yourself.

@@yudahel8521 I mean you descended from them so I guess your ugly too. Your afraid to call yourself black. I know your not African. But, your African- American. Get it right. You are descended from them

Who Gives a ,

@Question Everything ikr. It's extremely annoying

@@northernlight9700 why ...

Dingus Khan "Ebonics" is code talking. It's part of the street culture, not meant for outsiders to understand. Most outsiders confuse "Ebonics" with "improper English". "Improper English" is an issue amongst most poor American communities.

Most of us code switch. But to be honest with you. There are times when I become either too tired or passionate etc. and resort to this type of speech. So the consequences are that we will get looked down on. What's funny is that I learned how to speak "proper" first, then I learned "ebonics" To fit in. Now I some situations I would rather use ebonics but I know when I have to switch. But sometimes I be to tired to switch.

Do you think you're superior to people from Louisiana? Or Texas? What about Irish people? Scots? Where exactly are you from that you seem to be so convinced that you speak the one and only "proper" English? If you're American, there's still plenty of moronic English people that would say that YOU speak a bastardised version of English full of archaic expressions, words borrowed from a host of other languages, dumbed-down spelling, and with an accent that is a disgrace to "proper English". They might indeed argue that you and your fellow countrymen are too stupid to learn correct spelling, and to speak the Queen's English, and that the way they speak makes them superior to you. Your bad argument makes you sound just as stupid as those people

@@jamiegatson3378 I'm choctaw Indian. But that doesn't me I have to conduct myself like a savage. If they won't take the time to learn proper English then I _AM_ better than them. People who still total talk like toddlers even when they're grown. Yes. I am better.

@@captainbuzzkill4658 your not better. I think its fine to talk like that outside of work which is what they are doing if u like it or not. Just because you talk proper doesn't make you better . Just shows that is how you are raise. And, how do you know they didn't take time to learn proper English. Maybe they did ,it was just hard for them. Doesn't make them dumb. Your no better than them. You look like a nerd compared to them. And, they are like these cool guys hanging out as friends. I think the blaccent is cool. There just hanging out and talking slang, and somewhat you have a problem. How about you go educated yourself on how to be not be stuck up . They are not talking like toddlers. Your the one who is the problem. Its not that hard to understand .If your so smart why can't you understand. I easily can follow along with what they are saying . Unlike you guys. Your not superior to anyone . Your just using that for a racist excuse. How would you like it if I bash your Indian culture . Are you a Black Indian? If that is your totally mess up .

Why?

Correct, michael!

All people are watched and listened to when they speak. Always. EVERYONE!! If a person says, you is, we was, they book, mines, axe, they truly sound like they never went to school in my book., It's way more cool to sound educated when speaking, to possess a vast vocabulary, and to always work on self improvement . When anyone whose first language is English, and has horrific English language skills, the first thing I think is this person probably won't be able teach me anything. If they can't speak English correctly, chances are they weren't listening at all in school. It's sad, but that's how I feel. The most important issue in life to me is my children's education. My kids are brown, I'm not the racist white, I married a Dominican beauty. But if my kids walked into an interview speaking gibberish, no chance in hell of employment. Companies want to be represented professionally and correctly! My whole purpose is to support their education.

There's no African dialect amongst Americans. We were never in africa

Damn you guys have an excuse for everything.. Oh I'm sorry I should probably get on your level here. Everything means "aythang." Hope that cleared things up a bit for you.

The Spook Who Sat By The Door You clowns don't even know the difference between Ebonics and Dialect.

8 8G ~ Name just one of your enslaved "ancestors".... Take all the time you need.

Uh, no. It's seeking reassurance that the other person understands from the speaker's perspective (emotions/thoughts etc). But I see what you were trying to do 🤡

People do this in every language. But thanks for demonstrating that prejudice against this dialect is based on ignorance

@EuroPride, white Europeans have many languages, as well as a wide range of differing ways of speaking English, you fucking dolt!

@EuroPride yes she should be proud and you should respect that idiot.

Do you have a banjo on your knee and a girl named susannah?

Will B ~ datshowdeydoroundherr

For many years, the BBC in Britain pretty much only allowed Received Pronunciation accents on the air. Any sort of regional dialect was frowned upon and seen as inferior. They moved away from this idea when they realised how fucking stupid it actually is, and these days, you will hear a wide range of accents from all over Britain on BBC programming. Maybe Americans are just behind the times in thinking that any one accent is "proper".... It's an outdated and completely flawed way of thinking about language.

By the way, just to be clear - i'm NOT saying that someone with a really strong accent and who use loads of slang (like the kid in the white t-shirt) should be reading the news in the US, just like the BBC don't put on people with such strong accents that they would be unintelligible to large portions of the country. But to say that there is just one "proper" way of speaking English that can be permitted in broadcasting or reading the news is just, simply, wrong.

The english from Britain is the original english, it has a lot of similarities with Ameircan english and is therefore understandable to white americans, same with Australian. But AAVE is a dialect that the rest of us dont understand, so of course we marginalize. Would you continue to speak to someone whom you dont understand? Every country has a national language that is taught in school from early on in hopes that people will understand each other and work well with each other. Whoever wants to ignore this and only use their cultural language instead ends up hurting themselves in the long term because their skills and abilities no longer apply to the rest of society, and whose fault is that?-not mine. I dont have time to learn everybody's languages, i only have time to learn the one i need to know how to speak in the country where i reside, and hopefully speak it well enough so as to not be misunderstood about everything i try to convey, or be ridiculed like an incoherent idiot. You didn't even watch the full video, did you? If you did, you would notice that educated articulate black people are negatively regarded as "more white", or "not as black" by other black people, which is a sad consequence of this dialect and the black-only culture it comes from, which segregates black people from white. It's not white people that are doing it, so please don't talk about "our long legacy of racism".

I think you're right that a person would be better off being able to speak in standard American English. As a description of what would be most beneficial to this person I think that's self evidently the case. The problem is it's essentially required for certain people, born in the U.S, to learn to speak in two different ways due to no fault of their own. While people like us enjoy an advantage due to no virtue of our own. We're benefiting from the circumstances of our birth, inevitable as that is, it makes sense to try to mitigate as much as possible. As far as not being able to understand people who speak AAVE, I have never met any native-born English speaker I couldn't understand. (I know this video suggests that happens, but I don't think that's the main story by any stretch) Of course I have to be somewhat agnostic as to whether this happens; but I have my doubts. I think the main problem is people seeing speakers of this dialect as less educated; which leads to people who only speak in this dialect having a harder time getting employed. (That last part is obviously speculation, but I think you would agree, highly plausible speculation.) Lastly, yes, I watched the whole video. Do you think my comment was meant to deny the reality of black racism? Because my comment made no suggestion to that effect. Do you think that black racism is the primary problem here? If so that's almost a disqualifying move.

Give it a rest, ahri. Just speak normal, correct English. It's not that difficult. 🙄

Martin Szekaly yeah that's true but Americans don't acknowledge it at as a creole or a dialect and they just see it as slang which completely ignores the distinct grammar rules that it has that standard English doesn't.

Or we could just call it "Bad English."

I agree that "aave" is way too awkward. And if it really does qualify as a creole it would be nice to call it American creole but. I imagine it would be confused with the french creole used in Louisiana.

I think that's why the term "ebonics" is hardly ever used anymore. I don't think it was ever intended to sound insulting (though, I confess, I have no idea of the history of the term), but I agree that it sounds pretty tone-deaf these days. I don't particularly like the term AAVE either. I agreee that it sounds a bit awkward and clunky. However, although I really like your description of it as a "watered down creole", I'm not sure about your argument for the name "American Creole". I'm not a linguist and not qualified to definitively say one way or the other, but I think that at this stage AAVE has become so "watered down" by standard English that it wouldn't be quite right to call it "American Creole" either. In short, I have no idea what the best name is. To be honest, I would probably just go with African-American English, in the same way I would say "Scottish English", "Irish English" "South African English" "Australian English" and so on. It seems the most simple solution to me.

@@anonymousperson1327 That works!

People can speak however way they want to. People always picking on blacks about everything .

@@jamiegatson3378 Yes even correctly. Either 'however' without 'way' or 'whatever way'. And actually, 'whichever way' is really the best choice.

"Talking white" Is absolutely an accurate way to describe it. It became the standard because it was the type of English spoken by white people (specifically by elite white Northerners)

@@oliverwilson11 You forgot Italian, French, German, Portuguese,Swedish, Celtic, Gaelic, Polish etc. etc. etc. Languages spoken by everyone, all over the world. Language is not defined by color. Anyone can speak them, and everyone from everywhere in the world speaks different languages regardlessof their color or from where they descended. Some speak 3 or 4 different languages. Languages are not defined by color, more they are influenced by proximity.

@@anonamous6968 In all the major languages you listed, people speak differently based on social class, gender, age and often race even if they live and have always lived in the same place and natively speak the same language. White vs Black American English is a particularly pronounced example of a race based difference in dialect between native speakers of the same language in the same place. But such differences exist to some extent in many places. I'm talking about the first way of speaking that people learn, I'm not saying people can't learn new languages or dialects or accents in addition to their first one.

Your shitty sentence construction makes this comment EXTRA ironic.

Everyone knows how to speak standard english

Sorry but most intelligent people can't speak like black people. Sorry correct that, black Americans.

I refuse to talk like an uneducated welfare queen.

@@usarmyisthebest9193, it would be better than speaking like an 18 year old MGTOW... Why would someone ever admit to that, much less use it as a screen name? You might as well just change it to "I'm Trash and Can't Get Laid" 🤷‍♂️

@@usarmyisthebest9193, also literally no one is asking to to use AAVE. It would be even cringier than your stupid name if you did...

How can you talk lazy 😂😂

That's a lazy way of thinking...

@@redeyejedi4400 normally

It’s an efficient and convenient way of speaking.

How??? You are-🤦🏿‍♀️

Which is all due to the fact it's not a dialect, it's bad English...

The reason why some people will conjugate differently is just their level of exposure to standard english. For example, one documentary gives and example of "he cook dinner yesterday" as being correct for ebonics. So, for me I would never say this way because I learned standard english first. But other people might. The features I keep for my ebonics are that "habitual be" "I be up in my room on the weekends", makes sense to me. And using "don't", instead of doesnt, for third person subjects. "She don't know how this work(s)"(not adding the s for other third person verbs) deleting "be" exept for first person. We partying tonight. We going shopping later. You going home after this. (All correct) I doing fine(incorrect ebonics). So some people don't follow all the rules and if you were to look on the Wikipedia page. Some examples that they give, I don't agree with. Hope that informs you some

So what is the "proper" way of speaking English? (Hint - there isn't one) All dialects of English are "inconsistent". Even "proper" English (whatever you consider that to be) is inconsistent. Shakespearean English was inconsistent as fuck! For a long time, only a received pronunciation English accent ("the queen's English") was considered "proper" English, despite the fact that it was only ever (and still is) spoken by a tiny minority of English people. For an even longer time, ALL American English was considered "bad English" (and there are still some people who believe that today). The idea that there is a "proper" way of speaking English is horribly outdated and a fundamentally flawed way of looking at language. In no small part due to colonisation and slavery (as well as a host of other reasons), English is one of the most flexible languages around, with a huge range of diverse ways of speaking it (arguably one of the few positive things to come out of colonisation). Unlike other languages (such as French), there is no council of academics who get to decide what "proper" English is, and the language is richer for it. The differences in the ways English can be spoken (and still understood) should be celebrated, not ridiculed or condemned. I agree that AAVE is not a language of its own (it's a dialect). I can even see an argument for the necessity of code-switching in order to "get ahead". But the notion that black Americans should start their own language from scratch is utterly ridiculous. There's nothing wrong with AAVE, just as there's nothing wrong with Scottish English, Irish English, Australian English, a Southern Drawl, Jamaican English etc etc.

How do you feel about Tut?

so your saying blacks aren't educated. Racist!!!!!!

@@jamiegatson3378 No, you misinterpreted what was said. I suspect that it would be futile to explain it to you. Michele and Barack Obama and millions of other African American people are living proof that what you said is incorrect. If I believed what you state, then I certainly wouldn't be entrusting my healthcare to African American medical doctors.

@@LoveFlatfootin1 Yes you are right. I am sorry.

@@jamiegatson3378 No they are wrong and they are (knowingly or not) being racist. Saying that racism is not a factor in the prestige of dialects is culturally and historically ignorant. The fact that AAVE speakers can gain respect by changing their accent is an example of racism, not evidence against racism. Also Barrack Obama isn't a native AAVE speaker so he's not a good example.

Do you say that to every person with a thick accent and who uses a lot of regional vocabulary, or just to black people? Also, the US doesn't have a "national language"...

@@Bohemkadave1905 there is no need to try to race bait me. Not speaking proper English in this day and age with so many opportunities for an excellent education, even for the poor, is shameful.

@@thesatanictrucker8460 your mom is shameful, they can speak however they do

@@craftah you made my point.

@@thesatanictrucker8460 They are speaking English still your just deaf

Actually, you are wrong. African-American Vernacular English is a complex and grammatical dialect of English that's been around for a long time. It's linguistically fascinating and actually has the ability to express some concepts that are difficult to express in Standard American English. It's no less legitimate than Irish English, for example.

prhiannon Horsepucky. It's a free country so everyone may speak as they please but... teachers should be required to speak English properly as a fit example to students. Scraight up... knowutimsayin?

***** When you envision future generations speaking this way... that can't possibly make you happy, can it?

***** As you said... "WE'VE ALWAYS SPOKEN THIS WAY"... so the comparison to immigrants is a non-sequitur because Black English has become trans-generational. "My solution is to let the *market* and not *people* decide how our we should use English" The market IS people... and it has decided. You didn't notice? Suppose your kid want's to be a lawyer. Would you curse him with having to un-learn the mode of speech he grew up with? Would he then be "uppity" if he did? And where is proper English even more important than in law? In teaching, that's where. Are you prepared to condone _teachers_ using black talk? Institutionally passing on this handicap to not only your kids, but mine as well? Can you give me ONE reason I should be ok with that?

Stringfellow Hawke Yes, children should be able to speak the variety of English that allows them to access to more economic opportunities. Programs should therefore be put in place that EFFECTIVELY get students to where they need to be as far as speaking and understanding Mainstream American English. The programs that have shown to be the most effective at doing so are bilingual education modules which UTILIZE the students native dialect/language as a teaching tool. There is however nothing wrong with being bidialectical. AAVE is not 'lazy' nor is it a 'handicap' nor do speakers have anything to 'unlearn.' They simply have to learn something new. These assertions have prejudiced implications although you may not have intended it that way.