BMSC4KP, the more harder it is to say, the more blackmagic design it is.
@unn4medfeel1ng3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised I've never heard of this camera before. Turns out that TV production is a whole different world.
@PastaRoshie2 жыл бұрын
you and me my brother
@akilifill3 жыл бұрын
You guys are amazing! This was a proper review bro! Great information!
@MiddleThings3 жыл бұрын
Thank you !
@rfn80392 жыл бұрын
Extremely valuable as usual! I've been watching your channel for a while now, and I like how you provide value in your content as much as in your production. Keep up the great work! I don't understand the interest in keeping the mft mount for studio cameras, having done all kind of live production it's clear to us that B4 is the way to go unless you plan on bringing a whole range of accessories to help you better control zoom/focus on all mft lenses..it won't be comparable.
@Lotus_Trade2 жыл бұрын
just found this channel. The moment i saw you i just subscribed.
@ttoereprod1533 жыл бұрын
Excellente review. Merci beaucoup, tu as tout dit !!
@IOPvideo3 жыл бұрын
The Zoom and Focus demands are great in theory, but the big issue with the zoom demand is compatibility. So far the only lenses I have found that aren't discontinued are: The Panasonic Lumix G X Vario PZ 14-42mm f/3.5-5.6 and the Panasonic Lumix G X Vario PZ 45-175mm f/4-5.6. Its weird that they would put out a product with such a narrow range of compatible lenses. You'd really need a servo zoom motor to take advantage of the MFT range.
@DavidMorseMusic Жыл бұрын
Exactly. The three power zoom lenses for MFT are hot garbage. BMD should go with E mount. Some great power zoom lenses from Sony.
@jandaranowski59903 жыл бұрын
BMD external zoom motor is essential to use MFT lenses in broadcast style :)
@MiddleThings3 жыл бұрын
Indeed !
@PouyaNia3 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Thanks for this thorough review. Still waiting on ours :)
@Ferrari360Spyder3 жыл бұрын
This is so dope. I learned a lot enjoyed the video as well. You are a great teacher. 📸
@tman44452 ай бұрын
you share very vital information
@ONtvChannels3 жыл бұрын
As always from you old chap (AKA Zebrazone) - a very good well balanced piece - thank you... John M Sadly BMD have (as of yet) failed to provide either a B4 or EF mount option on this product, which is a great pity IMHO - the 4 screws holding the MFT mount might hopefully mean that this is a possible future option? Otherwise it will mean a third party adapter will be the way forward?
@MiddleThings3 жыл бұрын
Thank you ! Oh actually we did take off those 4 screws, but the part didn't come off, so it's not designed to be changed. But the space on the body around the MFT sensor could mean another version could be coming ! EF isn't really an issue since you can use a speedbooster and focus / iris control should still work. But B4.... yes, let's hope for an adaptor !
@wasbeen3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Lots of good information. It is the camera I have been waiting for, but the lack of lenses available worries me. Interesting thought about the zoom motor, I did wonder why they are shipping the base plate for rods.
@MiddleThings3 жыл бұрын
Thank you ! Yes, we were wondering as well
@rolfhjulstad3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great review!! Ex. zoom motor and B4 adapter would be awesome!
@Yanikikudon3 жыл бұрын
Merci pour la review, thanks for the review !
@adolfnegeh6520 Жыл бұрын
Wow. That's great. I will need one. And i love the way u explained it. Is explicit 👍
@thomaslanterman46382 жыл бұрын
I have a B4 Lens attached w/adaptor to my GH5s. Love it ! So, I share your idea of promoting B4 lenses to fit the BMSC 4K Pro. I would gladly attach my existing B4 lens to it.
@mediazonestudios3 жыл бұрын
An extra $895 for the studio converter, extremely disappointing. NDI +POE solutions are becoming much more affordable. BMD missing the mark here... $1795 for MFT camera + $895 converter + $999 lens. A 4 camera studio going to start at $12,000, and that's without a switcher --- BirdDog and PTZ Optics are laughing IMO.
@MiddleThings3 жыл бұрын
You are comparing the uncomparable. A Birdog 4cam kit, will cost more than $10,000 as well. For PTZ cameras that are really bad as soon as you add a little bit of gain.The all in one solutions you are mentionning are surely a bit easier to set up, but the quality is absolutely uncomparable, not even talking of NDI compression of an image that has a poor SNR ratio and high visible or invisible noise. And Blackmagic often introduces substantial price drops from time to time. So it all depends on the usecase, the audience of the live show / podcast etc..
@mediazonestudios3 жыл бұрын
@@MiddleThings charging an extra $895 for POE isn't comparable?
@enregistreur2 жыл бұрын
@@mediazonestudios POE, 12G SDI in and out, teleprompter feed, talkback, tally... All in all, it's not *that* costly, I guess.
@ThisIsLeeBird Жыл бұрын
The studio converter adds a crap ton of features. Gives you more outputs, you can run the program feed back to the camera and actually send it out of the hdmi on the camera to a teleprompter or TV just below the camera. Tally, talkback andTimecode is the huge one for me. I added an ATEM SDI extreme ISO just to use one of the outputs to record iso feeds into that. It’s amazine
@waikhomromesh63 жыл бұрын
man u r back💥🤛👍
@gewoonlive83832 жыл бұрын
Maybe Midle Things can make a solution for other zoom lenses? I hope for a zoom motor from Blackmagic but i don’t think they will.. Could you make something like that?
@GaricsPeter3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately you did not talk about one of the biggest weakness of the studio cameras (and Blackmagic in general): autofocus. We have the old studio cameras and basically you have to manually focus everything. Otherwise it is a great review. Thanks for the sample footage and the lens recommendation.
@MiddleThings3 жыл бұрын
Sure ! It's definitely not perfect, but there is a step forward between the autofocus of the old studio cameras and the new ones. You can try the BMPCC 4K autofocus, it will give you a good idea since it's the same as the Studio Pro 4K. It's still not Sony style continuous autofocus though.
@Morpheus1702 жыл бұрын
@@MiddleThings Big let down! How do you follow moving objects?
@Silieth3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review!
@IEBATechThoughts Жыл бұрын
Blackmagic makes zoom and focus demands for use on the studio camera. But there are entirely TWO Olympus lenses that feature electronic zoom. And the only zoom at one speed on those Olympus lenses. Again- without a B4 mount and the 7-speed ramping zoom lens attached to the front, BMD is not going to sell very many zoom controls for the Studio camera, and then they'll discontinue the controls- essentially fueling the failure of their own accessories.
@sidoine20002 жыл бұрын
Très bonne review ! Merci beaucoup !!!👍 Love from Paris 🇨🇵
@MiddleThings2 жыл бұрын
Merci !
@khtytvandnews49192 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@renatomorichetti43743 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, a external zoom motor would be very great and useful ! ;)
@renatomorichetti43743 жыл бұрын
Maybe MiddleThings is going to develop such an external zoom motor? Maybe together with DJI as with the gimbal you already have this feature!? Those 4 Electronic zoom lenses are NOT an option for me - then i would better invest in a DJI Gibmal and Middle Things APC-R instead of the BM Zoom and Focus Demand. How do you see that? Possible solution?
@chrisw4433 жыл бұрын
These cameras are almost exclusively used with b4 lenses, in fact some of your broll had box b4 mount lenses on the camera. You simply engage the doubler.
@JodyKoewe2 жыл бұрын
Thats true! and amazing results..read my post :)
@Timmyyycx Жыл бұрын
Great video man
@JodyKoewe2 жыл бұрын
Great review! I have used a B4 YJ20x8.5 lens with 2 x extender and a fotodiox adaptor on almost 80 streams and recordings with amazing results. Of course i used with the lens, support and manual focus wire. I did this with the Pocket 4k. Tomorrow i get the studio pro. For me is the bigger screen and sdi output a must...got already reading glasses 3.0 plus. We work with vmix and not atm. We gonna find out if we get tally work on it. For talkbak we use wireless hollyland system. The work is do varius from talkshows to concerts and the parfocal on the B4 lens is very welcome. About the lens.., you need to have luck if you buy one. I have a SD version but i found out that they also sold back in the days as HD lens. Because only in the factory was a slide differences in sharpness and even not visible for the eye. But it saves a ton of money. For the sweetspot set the B4 lens on 4.0 stop. Of course a photolens is sharper but with the streams we never use 4k...its not possible with the hdmi output and the stream downgrade it anyway. But i have so mush advantage because i can zoom en make dynamic slides. Its the main feature why i did so many streams instead of static shots. But you have a good channel and lots of good info...greetings from The Netherlands
@watchandproduce2 жыл бұрын
Can the camera record RAW via USB-C at the same time while passing out a SDI signal to an ATEM or Hyperdeck? I would figure yes, but would like confirmation. Thanks! Good video.
@nunmawia69103 жыл бұрын
Super camera
@anthonynjenga63733 жыл бұрын
Awesome Job bro...Excellent review
@MiddleThings3 жыл бұрын
Thanks !
@manolodiazcreator3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for information🙏🏻
@MiddleThings3 жыл бұрын
Thank you !
@troyheffernan12612 ай бұрын
Watching you right now. What is the full set up are you using? Also need info on recordable storage. I'll be shooting 2 hour continuous videos.
@badreality23 жыл бұрын
@8:37 The color accuracy of the Pro is more accurate, to my eye.
@TheBjray3 жыл бұрын
You can easily use a B4 ENG lens on the camera. Just need the right adaptors. I use a 4-pin XLR power to B4 power and XLR split. So the BM Studio camera and lens are powered up in one cable. Using an IBE HDX1.4 to convert B4 to MFT mount. Unfortunately you still don't get CCU control of the iris, since the camera and lens still can't communicate. It's still a great low-cost alternative to the URSA Broadcast.
@MiddleThings3 жыл бұрын
Didn't know that ! Vrey cool. The IBE HDX1.4 is around $2000 though
@TheBjray3 жыл бұрын
@@MiddleThings Yeah unfortunately. BM could make thier own proper B4 to MFT but I guess that would eat into ursa sales
@r3drang3r6910 ай бұрын
HEY MAN! THIS VIDEO IS SICK!!! YOU GUYS ARE AN AWESOME BRAND AND DEFINITELY LOOK FORWARD TO BUYING PRODUCTS FROM YOU GUYS!! BUT.... I DO HAVE A QUESTION AND WOULD LOVE IN THE INFO ON HOW TO MAKE THAT "DIY TALKBACK ADAPTER"!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LET ME KNOW HOW YOU DID IT LOL!
@abdullahalsiam58003 жыл бұрын
Great review! When is the live production comin?
@eduscopestream3 жыл бұрын
Love your content
@MiddleThings3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@chrisschneider76092 жыл бұрын
This thing has ALMOST everything. If only they had Zoom and Focus attachments! It is SOOO close to perfect... one more attachment and we might have a winner... I would love to have the DZOFilm 10-24 on this thing!
@veryboringname.2 жыл бұрын
Zoom and focus attachments? As in external controllers? They do have the Focus Demand and Zoom Demand controllers. Pretty cheap too.
@baylinkdashyt3 жыл бұрын
Note to USAdians: "Talkback"? Yeah; they mean "intercom" or (for us old guys) "PL". Not "Studio announce" or "IFB", which is what you might infer. This is a recording.
@TeleLouange72 жыл бұрын
I can see that the Olymppus 12-100 has a good zoom range. I have the Panasonic H-HSA35100 F2.8 II ASPH 35-100mm but it is not the same range. Before i buy the Olympus , i want to know if it is better.
@GratuityMedia3 жыл бұрын
Nice work, thank you.
@amge94523 жыл бұрын
Good work dude
@papajoe72 жыл бұрын
Still an amazing job on the demonstration
@polycordfilmworks46286 ай бұрын
I found a proper adapter to B4 lenses but it costs more than the camera. It is the MTF one. It has a lens corrector for the vignetting but it is terribly expensive. I have 4 of those but I am having problems justifying to use use it in broadcast purposes due to the poor choices of lenses...
@justmagaji3 жыл бұрын
Wow I like this camera ❤️
@creativehub97302 жыл бұрын
What a great review. I've been searching for battery options for this camera... Can you help?
@kernelpanic28873 жыл бұрын
Woah, this reminds me a lot of Zebrazone, nice!
@desmondmacnamara60683 жыл бұрын
Lol my first thought as well
@nickobergshow3 жыл бұрын
This is Thibaud from Zebra Zone right!?
@MrCoffis Жыл бұрын
Same guy 😂
@avdude46543 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@SalComuna Жыл бұрын
So sad the lens options are not that straighforward to choose
@jonnham2 жыл бұрын
Zebra guy has another channel. Awesome.
@papajoe72 жыл бұрын
I would like to see you you the back boom wireless transmitter from the camera to the Switcher demonstrate how that works too
@quickbrownfoxuk6 ай бұрын
Would Middle Things allow you to control the camera settings using the Davinci Speed Editor? Cheers!
@MichaelPerrenoud2 жыл бұрын
This review was incredible. That earned a Subscribe and Like for sure! What tripod are you using? We grabbed this camera and want to make sure we get the right tripod setup as well.
@svjatoslavskabarin11732 жыл бұрын
*starts the engines on his a320* "You can also bring up the zebra"
@FultonStreetBeats3 жыл бұрын
Yes Please! Wow
@jonathanchiriguaya43373 жыл бұрын
Nice review
@pjmtOfficial Жыл бұрын
Great review indeed.
@pixpaxpostproduction2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this Video. May I ask, if you had the chance to test the autofocus a little further? I wonder how good - or if at all - the camera could track an object or person in front of it. Would it be possible to have it in a scenario like a one-man show where it would be not operated? Could it be set to somethong like "focus on neares object"? I would be very interested in these answers. Thank's again
@Milestonesoflove2 жыл бұрын
How smooth is the zoom and focus? Can you let me know what lens are compatible fro the zoom?
@jensned2434 Жыл бұрын
We wan’t to be able to do live recordings in 4k. Right know we use black magic pocket 4k camera’s and the atem mini with a limit to live recording in HD. What’s do we need to make 4k possible?
@terryhatziieremias2 жыл бұрын
Is this a new product buddy? Newer than 6k pro?
@mahdimrt5748 Жыл бұрын
Hello, have a good time... I have a Blackmagic Studio Camera 4K pro and a Canon CN-E18-80mm T4.4 L IS KAS S lens But the lens is not connected to the camera Please tell me what conversion you used to connect this lens to the Blackmagic Studio Camera 4K pro? thank you
@splectronwilliams33842 жыл бұрын
HELLO can i use a lut with this camera while its in a live streaming set up,if so where do i get luts ,how do i install them
@jamesselmer2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Amazing review! As for the B4 lens, I have seen that the vignetting basically disappears when you use the lens only in x2 mode for MFT cameras. Was this the case with the Studio 4K camera?
@krishnansrinivasan8302 жыл бұрын
Awesome & Thanks :)
@enregistreur2 жыл бұрын
The sensor is a lot smaller on the Studio version, depth of field won’t be the same, as well as low light capabilities. I don’t have the dimensions in mind though.
@AmauryJacquot3 жыл бұрын
B4 adapter is optically complicated to build, if not impossible.
@MiddleThings3 жыл бұрын
Sad.. then a better bet would be just a Zoom motor
@57kod Жыл бұрын
How to control zoom and focus?
@DevAcharya3 жыл бұрын
u were in zeebra channel right ?
@zebrazone3 жыл бұрын
Yeas, it's kind of a second channel , dedicated to my brand
@oignonprod3 жыл бұрын
Same here... we would like a zoom motor from blackmagic. Is the Ronin RS 2 suited for that camera?
@MiddleThings3 жыл бұрын
We'll make a video on that. We did manage to balance it with the RS2 but we had to remove the right handle, which means opening the body. If BM releases an updated micro studio 4K it will be even better !
@manolodiazcreator2 жыл бұрын
HI, INEED CONTROL ZOOM & FOCUS FOR Panasonic Lumix G X Vario 12-35mm which one would you recommend?
@NewGenerationStudio3 жыл бұрын
Great video! One question, If you use HDMI fiber cables, can you control the camera from ATEM?
@MiddleThings3 жыл бұрын
Yep !
@NewGenerationStudio3 жыл бұрын
@@MiddleThings We have a system with ATEM MINI EXTREME ISO, with HDMI fiber cables and a few GH5's and we are planning to get some new cameras and I was wondering if the control over HDMI fiber will work. Thank you!
@papajoe73 жыл бұрын
What is the best zoom broadcast lens can be used on this Blackmagic Design Studio Camera Pro that controlled from the camera itself
@MiddleThings3 жыл бұрын
For the moment... none can really be properly controlled without expensive adapters & equipment
@papajoe73 жыл бұрын
What lenses would be good for the new Blackmagic Design Studio Camera Pro 4K for for big concert events in huge Church filming for long distance
@shanevaughan31763 жыл бұрын
I use the lumix Leica lenses. 8-18, 12-60, and 50-200. They’re super sharp and with all three you cover a massive range from super wide to super telephoto. Only downside is they are expensive.
@chicosproductions872 жыл бұрын
@@shanevaughan3176 Can zoom and focus be controlled with these lenses?
@shanevaughan31762 жыл бұрын
@@chicosproductions87 you’d have to have an operator on each lens to be able to zoom and focus. They are fully auto in the sense that they have continuous autofocus, but they won’t work like a PTZ.
@AroundUs Жыл бұрын
Hi! Have you tried any v-mount batteries and adapters? what are the best options?
@andy520512 жыл бұрын
Are either of the lenses suggested controllable by the camera? As in zoom and Focus with the added Zoom demand and Focus Demand?
@noukhollands04 Жыл бұрын
the downside for the focus and zoom remote is that they cant be used at the same time, you would have to zoom, let go of the remote and then focus
@heinrichhertzsprung6889 Жыл бұрын
but can you take pictures with it??
@Shauny_D3 жыл бұрын
What powered zoomed lenses in m4/3 do you know of? i’ve only found 3...
@MiddleThings3 жыл бұрын
Yes there are only 4 on the market. Best option is to use non powered zoom lenses ( just focus ) . There are plenty more. And let's just hope for a future external Focus Motor
@FLHCUT3 жыл бұрын
@@MiddleThings can you list them? I only found the Olympus M.Zuiko ED 12-50mm f/3.5-6.3 EZ. but i think image quality is not that good. maybe they will realse a motor and we could use the MK lenses
@PeterVCook3 жыл бұрын
@@FLHCUT The longest one I have found is the "Panasonic Lumix G X Vario PZ 45-175mm". In the name "PZ" stands for Power Zoom.
@Jamieharper96 Жыл бұрын
If I wanted to record ISO's of each camera feed without forking out for a tonne of storage space, would I be able to take feeds from my Constellation 8k, and output a feed of each camera into the ATEM ISO SDI and switch a live show at the same time? Would this confuse the ATEM Software control (running two 'switchers' at the same time), could this be manipulated through Adam Tows MixEffect Application?
@Studio42Brooklyn2 жыл бұрын
Is the HDMI output less horrible than the bmpcc4k/6k ? that is still my deal-breaker... I cannot use them for live streaming, the HDMI output is really soft... especially unusable for wide shots
@pixelprovideo35863 жыл бұрын
You are V E R Y smart! great video!
@stevecooksley3 жыл бұрын
Great review - now, please tell me that camera is light enough to work with the Ronin RS2 on a long term basis - that would mean I wouldn't have to go down the Birddog NDI route.
@jimpiterson40522 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Quick question for you. I have a sony a7siii and I need a second camera for an additional angle. Its for a home studio for a youtube channel. I also just bought an Atem mini extreme iso. I have the choice of getting another sony camera of lesser value or a BMPCC like the 4k or 6k. Would would you suggest? Do you think the black magic could go well with the sony? Thank you!
@ISRAADVISUALS3 жыл бұрын
I saw you first in your channel.You dont upload anymore?
@jeffcarlson12 жыл бұрын
Anyone figure out if you can playback media directly on camera. How can I preview what I’m recording. Clients want to see when we break
@michelwiedemann73672 жыл бұрын
Hey there, very nice video! did i got it right, so the 12-100mm Olympus lens supports a zoom servo internal ?
@MiddleThings2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The 12-100 does not have any zoom servo built in
@FACCTNC2 жыл бұрын
Would this the correct lens for the 4kpro Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 12-100mm F4.0 Pro Lens, for Micro Four Thirds Cameras? I just want to make sure that I am ordering the correct lens based on you information
@kizitojosh13733 жыл бұрын
very exclusive thanks genius
@locust1082 жыл бұрын
18:14 Hi i was unable to use the camera control features using the atem Studio hd and the bmpcc6k, unless i'm wrong can you tell me where i went wrong? from my research the pocket cameras only work with the atem mini , as in camera control , tally features. i tried it on my friends atem mini pro and focus, zoom, color correction all worked on first try. plugged it to my Atm Studio HD and all i could do was switch between cameras. no tally, no camera control. I'm hoping it a firmware update fixable issue. but i'm open to advice.
@sefuupload3 жыл бұрын
I love your review...
@MiddleThings3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mikederucki82152 жыл бұрын
One of the things that is extremely disappointing about this camera is the remote focus and zoom controls. Blackmagic only lists a few lenses that are compatible and the lenses are not exactly high end lenses. None are static F-stop throughout zoom range so I'm not sure why anyone would spend $500+ for focus/zoom and install a cheap $200 lens.
@dirtcreature3d3 жыл бұрын
Dope Video! Btw the body is made of carbon fiber, not plastic, as are all Blackmagic cameras except for the URSA.
@MiddleThings3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ! Actually the feel looks cheaper than the Pocket 4K / 6K Pro, but maybe that's just an impression
@papajoe73 жыл бұрын
What beef or lens was you using on that camera and wet Zoom range was it was it a Canada fujinon
@Morpheus1702 жыл бұрын
Does this camera have autofocus? If, so, How and where you can set it?
@adamittor2 жыл бұрын
hi there,, could you recommend this camera for green screen live production (UE4/Aximmentry) - does anybody have some experience? thanks in advance
@khakimakhmetbek3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! Have a question: which MFT lenses could be used with zoom and focus accessories. Couldn’t find the lens from the Blackmagic presentation.
@IOPvideo3 жыл бұрын
Any lens with Autofocus would work with the Focus demand. As far as the Zoom demand, there are only two as far as I know that are compatible: The Panasonic Lumix G X Vario PZ 14-42mm f/3.5-5.6 and the Panasonic Lumix G X Vario PZ 45-175mm f/4-5.6 ASPH
@Lugges3 жыл бұрын
The one featured in the presentation is the Olympus M.Zuiko ED 12-50mm f/3.5-6.3 EZ