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FBA AMERICANS created Hip Hop end of discussion

Griff just doesn't want to give any credit to Tariq Nasheed for the Microphone Check documentary because Tariq cooked him and his then girlfriend a few years ago. Get over it Griff.

I never new the origins of hiphop was up for debate I always new it was for us by us...

I respecfully disagree with Griff. Hip Hop is ONLY Black American

If HIPHOP TRULY BEGAN in AFRICA, JAMAICA, or PUERTO RICO, it would've been BIG in THOSE REGIONS FIRST.THINK about it.

Blacks have been on every part of every Continent before anyone!... We are aboriginals everywhere!

my parents are from Jamaica l was born in England . the origin of hip hop music started with black American people because it came from blues jazz soul funk mixing and scratching sampling the oldies and the dancing you only see from 1920s 1930s 1940s 1950s 1960s breaking dancing rapping james brown was the most sampled with two turntables then the arrivuel of drum machines 🥁 synthersizers sample the Jamaican added 10% other races of people got involved when they seen fun and power of the music but didn't want to struggle and suffer what black people's issues for freedom and justice and equality that's why their no real black and brown coalition because they only want to use us to get were they need go and pretend they did it by themselves

Not sure if Griff ever really answered the questions... If the origins of Rap came from Africa, why can't they rap better than us?

The movie Microphone Check shuts all this Caribbean & Africans help creates HiP Hop BS down. The true pioneers have spoken. Griff needs to sit down and do more research.

Guff is not an historian of hip hop clearly. Also giff spoke like a man who has relationships with women, of different cultures. Normally blk ppl like this, wanna all live matters Blk Culture..

No disrespect to Griff but since he said it’s an elementary conversation about Africa and our origins I have to say he has no clue what he’s talking about. Hes telling us what he thinks but he really has no real knowledge on it. If he did he would be babbling through the question

The FBA group, The Temptations rapped Ball of Confusion in 1970. They even say in the song, “Rap on brother. Rap on!”

The conversation about who started hip hop is crazy. At this point it doesn’t need to be talked about. It’s common sense that hip hop came from black American culture end of story. Anyone saying otherwise is LYING

What is griff saying I’m confused about what he is saying..disappointed in his commentary… Sounds like he’s not an FBA…..Sit down!!!!

Brother Bobby Hemmitt said Griff sold out a long time ago

Griff lost me with africa, i never seen anybody doing the harlem shake or bank head bounce in any of the Shaka Zulu movie series lol this pan african ideology got us giving away everything we made to other people who dont give us nothing.

"If it started in Afrika, why they can't do it?" 🎯Bro. Rich Excellent point made 🎤✅️💪🏽🇺🇸

This is good for Black Americans. We can finally see who’s on our side and delineate who’s against us. Professor Griff now added to the list with Krs, F Joe, Pete Rock, Busta Rhymes

I myself am from Brooklyn of Panamanian Parentage and of Jamaican descent. That said, regarding this topic, as a man born in 1967, I have witnessed plenty. My family, culture and I have always loved our Latin, Caribbean music. But when it comes the music we called rap and the culture we call Hip Hop, from my lenses, I must say Black Americsns put it down first no question.. Although peeps from the Caribbean were there during part of the Genesis, we were infuenced by the folkways and moreys of rap language from my Black Americans brothers and Sistas through my lenses. Yes, us Caribbean/Latin peeps added some of our own flava in Hip Hop, like Black Disco, Funk and R &B, Lord Jamar is correct. Should be no conflict honestly, we colored folk all over the America's cotributed something special. Funky Four plus 1 is one of my All time favorites. Honestly, this subject was never discussed back during those times. Very dissapointed with this divide we are having. I think Busta Rhymes needs a mic check on this one, although he is my brethren.

Hip Hop once united us and now it divides us. Ain’t the Devil happy,,,

Professor Griff was the first to open my eyes on the true workings of the industry back In 2010.Before Katt Williams and Jaguar Wright there was Professor Griff‼️💯🙏🏽

If everything came from Africa why African ain't Creating nothing NEW

This ain't even up for discussion. EVERYONE knows the ORIGIN, and thus, the CULTURE was strictly Black American. We cringed when they tried to add Jamaican or any other culture to OUR culture.

Pan African-ism is a dead movement

Black Americans are indigenous to this land. We are finding out more and more that they took our land and took our identity from us. A lot of the dances that he is speaking of are tribal type dances. We had tribes here in America American indigenous Indian black tribes. We're not going for that Africa stuff no more because black indigenous Americans are not from Africa.

I watched the Founding Fathers Of Hip Hop Doc a dozen times to get a full understanding but my question to Griff is what did Grand Master Flowers playing on 2 turn table's in 1968 in Yankee stadium before Kool Herc even started had to do with Africa???

F.B.A is not giving it to africa

Griff is my brother, but he seems to forget that the true and living God is here. We ( FBA, Black Freedmen ) are the chosen ones to bring this planet back to it righteous state. This is why rest can not create like us.

Professor Griff needs to stop with this African BS. Why didn’t Hip-Hop spring up in Africa or any of the other genres it was sampled from…

How did we get it from Africa and we were here before Columbus

You can tell who sold out and who didn’t all the sell outs don’t speak truth.

When hip hop was created, none of them knew they were creating hip hop, its was the vibes at the time when something was created and happen, and that made everyone feels good, and our American brothers put the real and original final touch to it and that when it became a living thing that shook the whole world up.

He just gave out whole heritage to Africa I disagree we are not Africans We are Americans. We never came here we were already here. America is the true motherland.

I’m FBA and I created Mariachi, dancehall, & salsa 💃, Since Griff said that we were all dropped off in different locations during the middle passage slavery.

That's a bullshyte ass answer about why we are the one's who say African American and no one else say it only American but the shyte is changing no more African bullshyte.

Any people who think they created hip hop simply needs to prove it with historical context and culture like brotha tariq nasheed did. Where r the last poets and gil scott herons of the other cultures claiming they created it. Thats like saying rock n roll originated with elvis.

We are foundational black Americans. period.

Griff, respectfully never demonstrated that Africans created Hip Hop. Up till this day Africans still can't rap, DJ, B.Boy, pop/break, beat box, do graffiti art. The only thing Griff demonstrated is irritation and attitude. 4% of the total amount of slaves were brought to America, the amount is anything from 43,000 - 90,000 slaves. The so called African slaves was probably less than 2% of black people who were already in the Americas, how would 2% of Africans have any affect on the total? Griff sounds like KRS1 the only difference between the two, KRS1 claims Puerta Ricans and Jamaicans rcreated Hip Hop and Griff claims Africans created Hip Hop. Griff still thinks we all came from Africa!! Hopefully, this backward way of thinking dyes out completely.

FBA (Foundational black Americans) created Hip Hop, everything FBA creates the world then follows thereafter

Griff explaining this, is exactly the reason why we are in this controversy today, because his era didn't gatekeep hip hop like they should have, and this is a lesson for generations moving forward. Griffs era let everyone in Hip Hop shared it all with the if you Black wee all the same mentality and it incentived outsiders of our culture to then claim they had a hand in creating it.

Can't wait for brotha Red Supreme to dissect this one

Busta Rhymes said Black Americans got hip hop from Jamaicans and Puerto Ricans because we didn't have any culture of our own so we had to follow them. He also said that Black Americans in the 80s got there style of dress from Puerto Ricans 😂

Expected so much more from Griff. I can almost guarantee his lineage doesn't trace back from a boat from africa, or maybe his does.

The gods & earths have had a major influence and impact on Hip Hop & Rap! *Steel Talk*

Thank you Bro Rich for bringing this one together

Damn, I’m disappointed at Griff but also remember he’s about to red black and the green

Professor Griff this was horrible 🎯🎯 How are you Blackfoot by Blood, but you claim Africa 👁️⚖️

Black Americans aren’t claiming The Pyramids in the continent of Africa

There is a major difference between creation and participation. *Lord Jamar* That's a helluva bar. *Steel Talk*

Ok yall let tha mf'n war begin, cause i know their bout to come for griff's head😂😂😂😂

Griff gotta be still tired after this interview. He did some dancing around them questions 😂

Naw, i disagree with Professor Griff. Too many people talk about how we have no culture. Yet, when we set the trend, only then did they want to claim our history. When we prove that we have culture, they are quick to disregard how we made it popular and acceptable in society. They hate to give us credit because it fit the narrative that we have no culture. It's past time to claim our culture.

The Main Component of HIPHOP was generated from BLACKS out of NYC and all who Contributed to Make it Grow to what it is and Why I love it I appreciate y’all Peace y’all

professor Griff is off code… hip-hop started in America by Black Americas. This guy has Alzheimer’s.

As much as I love and respect Professor Griff…….Hell Nah man ain’t nobody talking about Africa we’re talking about Hip Hop and Black America Created that!

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Griff claim is also problematic cuz implying that black American cultural artforms are African in origin, then allows black africans to claim that THEY are the authors of what black Americans created, which ALSO is not true.

ANOTHER OG sold us out FAMILY.

WWRL was the voice of the people in NYC. The Superstars of Black radio in NYC. Frankie Crocker,Gerry Bledsoe, Hank Spann, Gary Byrd

What he’s saying just doesn’t make sense. It was impossible for us to take influence from Africa or anywhere else when we had no contact whatsoever with them. Africans and Jamaicans were very few and spread out when we were growing up. They took their influences from us. Let us be reminded that hip hop and every element began far beyond the 70’s. Griff is asking us to give our culture to people who had nothing to do with its creation. Very disrespectful ✌🏽

Griff is not separating FBA from Africa which is why he is saying what he is saying. Looking at his point of view. He is right! He knows HipHop was created in America by FBA. In his eye we are all from Africa! In my eyes, we are FBA and unique on this planet. Our ancestors are African but we have evolved in to a new category called FBA being born in America! There are countless videos online that shows who created not only HipHop but the majority of the music genres today. It's is ALL FBA!

Prof griff is 63 yrs old. He should be able to keep it black American and demonstrate from right here in America… that African shit is mythology!

It is always interesting to hear the perspective of those, who were there in the earliest days of Hip Hop. *Steel Talk*

So what about the American Aborigines, who were classified as black, and now African Americans…?

BLACK AMERICANS CREATED HIP HOP CULTURE. 💯

Brother Griff is all over the place. Hip Hop is Black American in origin.

Griff still got on his 90s African medallion...unfortunately the rest of us have moved on. But after watching entire episode he said he got a book to sale. Good luck Prof. get your paper.

As a 49-year drummer/percussionist/musician/composer/instructor, I can affirm & confirm that what Griff is saying is accurate, regardless of our deceptive argument about place of Ancestral origin (Africa or America)! ALL American music IS rooted in drumming as the rhythm pulse that connects ALL of the musical genres EXCEPT "Classical" music which is the music of The European oligarchy/renaissance and that music DOES NOT have drumming as a primary rhythm pulse. Drumming ORIGINATED in Africa & made its way to America via the first dispersion of Ancestors (Natives) who fled Africa from Roman persecution as well as the Spanish exile movement, then the second dispersion of The Atlantic Coast Slave Trade outta Africa. BOTH dispersions saw Melanated tribes recreating djembe drums (Congo Square in New Orleans is just one example) as well as the banjo & fiddle (both African instruments) that laid the very foundation for the guitar which became the lead instrument in Bluegrass (THE ROOTS of Country Music), The Blues, & Rock'N'Roll. Our other contemporary forms of music: R&B/Soul, Gospel, are rooted in the combinations of Biblical Ancestral Hymns & early Jazz. The styles of Hip-hop, Funk/Dance, Reggae & Afro-Cuban/Latin ARE drum dominant musical styles rooted in African drum rhythms/patterns. CLASSROOM FACTS: I borrowed a friend's Mother Earth African Djembe Drum (The 24 inch bass djembe that the Hip-hop 808 kick drum was digitally sampled from that rattles car speakers); I used his Mother Earth African Djembe drum in my class one day to execute/display hand drumming patterns to my class & the young people almost lost their minds in the drum tone/sound of the drum & IMMEDIATELY connected the sound/frequency/vibrational tone of that AFRICAN drum right back to Hip-hop "Trap" beats of The South & the East Coast Pioneer Hip-hop drum patterns as well as the West Coast Gangster drum styles! My class went into a creative frenzy over the sound of that Mother Earth African Djembe & some young poets started "freestlylin" to the hand drum patterns I played that day! The drum (rhythm/groove) IS the foundation & connection to ALL of our music & offshoots of our music. THE ONLY music not from our Genetic Blueprint IS Classical music, even though Beethoven is said to have had Moorish African Ancestry! At the end of the day, ALL American Music has tempos determined by drumming & ALL drumming (drum set, marching, Hip-hop beats, etc.) ARE rooted in African Djembe drumming. Y'all connect the dots & stop disconnecting just for the sake of an argument to grand stand each other!

Us as black Americans have our own culture. We need to start gate keeping our shit. Professor Griff sounds just like them. But They Not Like Us.

Can respect where Griff is coming from...I get it...we as American blk ppl invented hip-hop...perios point blank...nobody on this planet has been through what we have been through and that's how hip-hop originated out of blk Americans pain and suffering and once again here comes wht boy roy and all the rest of the culture vultures cashing in on our creativity and we get nothing out of it not even the recognition that we created it

Ain't nobody talking about Africa, we're talking about us here those that created hip hop, not our descent. Hip hop is ours, period

Yalls boy gonna love this

We are not the same people compared to them in Africa.

This interviewer hasn't done enough research because if he had he will know Haitians, Jamaicans and Trinidadians are also known as AfroCaribbeans just as black Americans are known as African Americans.The more I listen to the interviewer the more I realise he has little knowledge of self by asking certain questions.Africans don't have swag? Do you know about the Pharoahs of Kemet? Who had more swag than them? Have you seen the Kings of the Ashanti Kingdoms of Ghana? Who had more bling than them? Nobody in the history of the world has stunted more than Mansa Musa? African swag created the Greek and other civilizations as well as all the major world religions.I can go on and on

We've been far removed from Africa for over 500yrs we are not the same because we have been through a Afro genesis.

once you understand the difference between Race, ETHNICITY, and Nationality then you can't say "black" people. You have to identify the ethnic group that created it. Foundational Black Americans created Hip Hop culture. Respect to Prof. Griff but WE created our own culture as an ethnic group. Alot of the things we created were not based in Africa.

Griff wrong 😑 on this one.

22:59 jesse jackson invented the term african american in 80s. He should not have spoke for all of us

Griff need to sit down

It's Always a Blessing to hear from THE PROFESSOR... And Salute to you as well Brotha Rich💯

Griff is kind of reaching. Who cares about what happened in Africa, no disrespect. Today’s music are derivatives of Foundational Black American culture. There are simply no current Africans doing anything remotely close to what we Black Americans are doing here in North America.

We Made Music With Our Bodies & Mouths Before Instruments. Music Was Everywhere Because We Was Everywhere. We Are One, We Are Special & Do The Same Things A Little Different According To Where We Are Located. Everything Originated With The Original Natural People Of This Realm. Stop Sweating Names & Labels Given To Us By People Who Hate Us. PEACE🌞

🤣 When Griff said The Compliment King “Ol Genuwine lookin Mfka” 😆 😭

If they were rapping in Africa prove it Griff

Griff loss me giving what we created to Africans??? I can’t even finish watching this video cause I’m not going to listen to him give what we did to Africa!!

This all our shit

Our people suffer from lack of knowledge of self. The self I’m referring to comes from the soil of all lands. However hip hop is uniquely Ours from this land

BS GRIFF OUR MUSIC HAS NOTHING 2 DO WIT MO DAMN AFRIKA! WE FRUM HERE IT KAME FRUM US! WE NOT LIKE DEM AFRIKANS N DEY NOT LIKE US!

Professor Griff was not expecting to be called out on his BS lol. Trying to give credit for Hip Hop to Africa is a joke. The guy is all over the place and don't know what the hell he's talking about!!

Griff my guy but he off with this Africa talk…I’ve never been influenced by an African…Puerto Rican…or Jamaican

This is who I’ve been wanting to hear from regarding this topic!!!

We have been through a Afro genesis here in America.

Africa is the motherland of all black people, but hip hop is indeed an African American invention. When Africans were brought to America they developed their own unique culture, because they had to. It formed naturally. Just like Jamaicans. Jamaicans have no problem telling you their roots are African, but their culture is unique so it has its own chamber or facet that should be set apart.

African tribes often recited history & folk lore thru song, poetry & dance, the Griot tradition of west Africa for example. It might not be Hip Hop as in how its recognised in America today, but its poetry set to rhythm & syncopation that in its essence at the root is the same. Given that black people were first transported as slaves across the Atlantic to the Americas, they brought across those same musical traditions & influences to evolve music through their own life experience unique to life in America, which over generations evolved into Hip Hop. Thats what Afrocentricity was all about, African American people recognising those roots even if the motherland is an alien place to where they live now. Its a pity that cultural influence of Hip Hop got left behind to all the gangsterisms & metarialism that came to dominate rap for commercial reasons. So the generations coming up stay ignorant & trapped in a world where money overshadows knowledge. Im not a 5% or nation of islam follower like Griff but they at least carry this basic knowledge forward.

It’s all African. Puerto Ricans, Jamaican, Black Americans all came from AFRICA. These conversations focused on separation are made to dismantle all of the progress of the unity of the African diaspora.

Griff is a agent we not talking about DNA we talking bout creativity

Now that it is becoming international and projected to become a multi-trillion-dollar enterprise annually over the next 5 years other groups want to take ownership of Hip Hop. Sad that Professor Griff and so many others in the game stayed silent all these decades and allowed all these other groups to shoehorn their way into Black American Culture. We in America created our own ethnic culture just like the other former slave colonies like Haiti, Jamaica, etc. We have African heritage (dna) but we have American lineage. We do not claim Jamaicans or Haitians are just a bunch of lost Africans living on a bunch of islands. That would be disrespectful of the 400+ plus years of their unique history in their countries (remember the Caribs and Tainos Indians who were dark skinned) . Similarly, we should not say Black Americans are just a lost tribe of Africans wandering around in America. We have 400+ plus years (longer if you include the copper-colored races found here by the Europeans). The problem with Professor Griff and others is they have bought into the Pan-African dream. Moreover, if you accept Professor Griff's argument then Black Americans did not create Gospel, Jazz, R & B, Ragtime, Country, etc. because there was singing and hand clapping in Africa. Griff is wrong that African American was generated in 1988. It was not added to the census until 2000. He is simply not that well educated (great rapper) and wrong saying our slavery experience made it different for us to call ourselves African American. No. Haiti and Jamaica, Trinidad etc. were all slave colonies. And Africa was not called Africa before the 1700s. It was Jesse Jackson and Pan Africanism that moved us off of "negro", "colored", or "Black".

Griff lost me with the African talk. So now the West Africans can calm they co-created hip-hop..😅. We're an entire new breed with over 400yrs of history in America. It's OK if we as a people stand on that and be proud to be FBA. There's nowhere in Africa we can call home, so stop the African talk.

I WAS WAITING FOR PROFESSOR GRIFF!!!