The biggest problem with Forza (Motorsport specifically) is that they have become too complacent. They give us, the community, just enough to grab our attention, but they never really push the limits of what they can do or usher in something entirely new. It's sad really...

The thing that’s bugging me the most is the fact there’s not a single motorsport themed race category in career mode! No touring cars/gt cars/hypercar events. It’s a motorsport game launched without those 😮 They may be coming later on but it’s a bit rubbish there’s nothing at the start

You can skip practice laps if you go to exit the race it will come up with finish or exit practice 🙃

I’ve played games like this since gt1. I’ve never been able to tolerate doing 1 qualifying lap. The fact that you level up your car during practice makes it kinda fun for me.

Built from the ground up, yet they couldn't even be bothered to add new car spoilers 😂

I actually really enjoy the practice. It feels more immersive and makes me feel like the game has more for me to do. Plus it's nice when youre getting adjusted to a new car.

The starter cars are appropriate except that mustang, should have been an EcoBoost with the GT available in later events.

What I do like with the new physics, the tyres finally feel like they're made of rubber, instead of plasticy feeling where they slip constantly, it gives you a more realistic feel to the car.

Let's cut to the chase. This isn't built up from the ground up. Its FM7 with a poor refresh and less content. 5 years of waiting for this underwhelming mess.

You don't need to buy multiples of the same car to have different setups. In the Upgrade and Tune menu, there is a Setup Manager where you can store the current tuning and installed car parts. So, once you have your car maxed out, you can create multiple configurations and load them at will for a particular race.

I've thought about how they could improve the upgrades. Car Points are great. But locking the upgrades behind levels is very stupid. 1. Get rid of the locked upgrades. Open it to everyone, but 2. Keep the upgrades qith car points. Then, you can 3. Keep the levelling system. Every time you level up your car, you earn car points to further your upgrades. Like i drove the RCF,.instantly knew i needed weight reduction and tires, 2 of the most basic upgrades to a car, but i had to wait until like level 20 to get it and it's such a bad decision. Then they can make the level cap infinite as a personal achievement for each player to show "hey, i got my mustang to level 125. I use this thing a lot across my career. And they can transfer car points across duplicate cars so if i gave 20,000 points for my mustang, and then i buy another mustang, i can have the same amount of points

Why the graphics look like that

Forza Motorsport 4 is still the daddy this seems dead

You don't need to do practice. Once youre in the practice session you can pause then go to exit and then quit practice or something similar will show up

Couple extra things, the practice can be skipped (start > exit > skip practice). Secondly, the practice isn't always the length of the race. Earlier, I had 2 laps of full Silverstone for practice, but 4 laps for the race. So it depends.

When they started throwing around "built not bought" marketing around the upgrade system, you knew things were going in the wrong direction.

I miss the good old calendar progression system from motorsport 3 i prefer to drive slow cars then go to fast

Basically, it’s boring.

Upgrading per manufacturer would be best I think. Also they need wheels spacers to fix the gaps

And also they forgot to put the SUV’s and pickup trucks on Forza Motorsport 2023. They haven’t finished yet to update the vehicles.🙄😔

Ngl this game is really boring for something that was being hyped up this much by them

Been playing it from 1am to 4pm last night and had to go to work this morning......I'm loving it....

19:31 Bruh, his reaction to all the free gifts is so funny for some reason XD

The biggest problem in FORZA MOTORSPORT 8 (FM2023) is online only for career mode and 82 percent of the car lists in FORZA MOTORSPORT 8 that came straight from FORZA MOTORSPORT 7. Still no Ayumu Uehara's Sauber Mercedes C9, Karin Asaka and Emma Verde's Peugeot 908s, Toyota GR010 LMH, and Vanwall!

Raytracing is only on the car body self reflecting and other cars. Car body reflections of the environment are all old-school cube maps. Road reflections are screen-space.

Skipping practice is possible but they hide it in a way that most people may never find. When you're in practice you have to pause the game, select the exit race option and THEN it will show the option to skip the practice.

Forza Motorsport is meant to be a simulator, whereas the Horizon series is just a playhouse. I think once you factor that in, it changes the perspective.

Oh baby, time for motorsport to still not be used in esports since GT7 exists

Alot of the racing I think you're looking for is going to be in the multiplayer lobbies. People setting up races for various classes of cars and performance tiers, and being able to jump in with your cars that you want to drive. The grinding per car seems annoying, but on the other hand, an important thing to do is to drive the car from stock and then see what it needs for upgrades to suit your needs. That said, once you unlocked the parts for a particular car, buying another of the same car, should have all the parts unlocked. Having to redo it over again is definitely an oversight I think.

It's glitchy. And there is a bunch of pop in on the series x. And I know this will sound crazy. But they still haven't fixed the replay system. One thing I love about gt 7 is that when you have an awesome race you can go back and watch the replay. And the way they set it up its never the same replay twice. It is an awesome feature.

It really, really turns out to be a bad game. Just refunded it, it's like playing a beta at most. And the sound... so bad.

The grind is going to kill this game I believe

Biggest mistake was choosing the civic as the starter, managing understeer is actually hard imo

Changing your difficulty (damage, tires, penalties) really does make the game a bit more rewarding. You just crashing into everyone is cringe I’m used to the harder levels

I think the practice is perfect, nice way to learn the track

i cant believe they still didnt fix the ass hand movement in the cockpit view since FM3, which was released like 14 years ago

I can’t believe how many cars they DON’T have. The Bugatti Bolide. The Veyron. The Aston Martin Valkyrie. Pagani Zonda/Zonda R. Lamborghini Sesto Elemento or Murcialago SV. So many cars you’d expect to be in the game. No doubt we’ll have to pay for them later on

The reflections on the ground are screen space reflections. The RT is only on cars and trackside objects with mirror like surfaces.

No matter what platform you play on remember to always have fun and be respectful.Happy Gaming

Ray tracing is limited according to digital foundry. Regardless, looking forward to giving it a go.

Basically it makes you become a better driver. Its not fast paced anymore. I dont mind.

Just refunded the game, the grind you need to do with every single car is atrocious to be able to upgrade it as you want etc

What have the developers been doing for the last 5 years? They have been pressing only 3 keys on their keyboards: Ctrl, C and V.

Built front the ground up to add some ray tracing to forza motorsport 7.

Everyone has an opinion and that is the way it should be. I will just say at least Forza had the balls to try something new and I love it! Not giving everything away out of the gate and making you earm it is the way it should be. As long time GT fan this may be the best format of a racing game I have ever played! Genius! The physics and grapics are amazing as well! Love this game!

I dont understand how so many people can work at turn10 and nobody noticed in 6yrs how unexciting it was to play knowing if u move to try anything new you'll need to upgrade again.. Bored of it already and ive only got 3 cars to level 3,5 and 11..and whats the point of your first career event making you change car.. Ive just spent 1 to 2hrs upgrading the civic to 11 and you have no option to carry on upgrading you're forced to start over with another car.. So any new event series you'll b at level 1..will see how it progresses✌️

Biggest problem is this game is absolutely unplayable on PC, regardless of your specs. Game is barely stable, and assets disappear and reappear as you drive. We need some light to be shed on this and have them optimize the game better cuz this is out of control, especially if you’ve spent $100 on the game.

All this hype. To be let down...

Remember when the leading features of Horizon 5 they mentioned on stage were 3D scanned rocks?

Is it just me, or is DriveClub never going to be dethroned as the best looking racing game ever? Looking at this, the lighting looks off for real. It makes the models look a bit worse than they actually look like. Still on the fence with the car xp system. Could be cool, could be horrible. Also, a bit happy to see Kyalami (being from South Africa)

I think this whole "built from the ground up." Was a poor choice of words. And that we thought that Motorsport overall was going to be better in all aspects. But its clear the 5 years was spent rebuilding the tracks and cars to handle next gen tech like ray tracing. And improving the feel and handling of cars, and additional penalties, tire compounds, and online multi-player racing. Unfortunately all other things like body kits, cars, a unique and fun single player racing experience. Kinda disappointing but l think multi-player racing and hopefully the consistent updates will turn this game to what we hoped for.

I'm happy to have some structure back in the racing format. You will have to unlearn the anything goes expectation you had based on Horizon, but that's a good thing and becomes more enjoyable as you get deeper into the game. I LOVE the handling physics!

The game reviewers help to sell the games, then they tear them down. This is the main problem these days. Sorry, not sorry!

i just hope it contains the old cars, like nissan silvia, pontiac GTOs, mustang saleen, eagle talon, jetta 2004 and those old daily cars that you could have fun running them in circuit.

Ya it's crazy you have to actually race the car to lvl it up in a race game

I think it's a good game, the only mistake is not innovating anything

I really dislike the way these games make you sit through all these different event types right at the start of the game. It eliminates any feeling of mystery like you had with the TDU games. You really had to work your way up and grind to drive the fast/exclusive cars, here they’re just handed to you!

as much as i love the forzas, i hate how easy the progression is, you do one race and get awarded so much that it completely takes away any sense of achievement and leaves little to feel like you're working towards something

This game is meant to be played with a driving wheel (preferably with Direct-drive). I am amazed how you still play with a controller. You're driving all over the place on the road with that controller, it's hilarious 😅

When they say drivatar they mean it use to copy racing styles of your friends. As now they use the gamertags but they dont copy styles

Forza motorsport is more interesting when you play

Meanwhile me inside a PSVR2 on Nordschleife 💟

Terrific game, super fun. I'm 20 hours into it, and I love it. I play the Builder's Cup solo career and the Rivals mode. I dont play online tournaments, but the game needs a permanent internet connection all the same, unfortunately. I recommend a wired connection rather than wireless, as any data interuption might cause the game to get stuck when loading a race. I've felt connected with every car I've driven so far. It's like I'm one with the car, feels amazing. The control is very good with a regular controller. Cars are responsive and physics feel great around corners. I don't have a wheel, but I might end up getting one just for this game for an even higher sense of involvement. Improving your car level and pilot level feels rewarding. The more you drive, the better your drive around the tracks, the more points you get and the faster you evolve as you get access to more performance parts and upgrades, which unlock progressively. You need to work your way to the top, and you become a much better driver in the process. I'm at difficulty 5/8 and choose to start the races from the last place on the grid for a bit of challenge. I win all the races with relative ease, so I might need to raise the difficulty to 6/8. Graphically, I don't like the lack of colours under certain lighting and weather conditions, it all looks washed out, and kind of misty a bit too often. On a clear day, tracks can look great, though. The overall muted colour palette around tracks doesn't apply to cars, which show more vivid colours. Why have Turn10 chosen to go desaturated beyond realistic, I wonder? Maybe a stylistic choice. I don't care for ray tracing. I find it pointless. Would rather dedicate resources to other aspects of the game, like AI. In real life, there are far less reflections than what RT is trying too hard to emulate. No such thing as a mirror effect everywhere in the real world, except perhaps on a rainy day and a wet road. I do appreciate 60fps, makes a huge difference compared to 30fps, which to me is bordering unplayable and doesn't belong in this console generation. I dont see the point of offering this option in a 12 Tflops system, to be honest. I noticed something I didnt like in the replays. When braking before the bends, it shows the wheels strangely locking up in the replay despite driving with ABS on, and the brakes dont turn red as they heat up. Looks bad, especially when the wheels stop turning. The choice of cars is great as it is, but a bit more tracks would be nice. Turn10 say they're working on those, we shall see. Overall, for what I personally value in a racing game, this is a blast. It strikes the perfect balance between arcade and simulation, and you can easily tweak it one way or another with the aids. I give it a solid 9/10, despite the very muted colour palette, small glitches and required permanent connection to play solo, which in the end don't weigh that much in the scales to me.

I wish FM7 at least got more updates before this came out. It's ridiculous how once this game was announced,the devs just suddenly dropped support for FM7

“Give me a challenge”. Chooses the easiest settings….

The addition of Safety and Driver rating to multiplayer should make the online races more sane. Once you clear the qualifier series.

GT7 doesn't need Ray Tracing. It still looks better and has way better color reproduction.

You can skip practice by entering it, pressing start, go to exit and press ‘skip practice’ You’re welcome

I’m actually enjoying this a lot! I love the slow progression on cars. Getting an sti as my 1st car. Then going to a rwd brz and having to wait to unlock and the LSD and seeing the traction improvements!

I drive with a wheel. Shifting is horrendous until you can unlock aftermarket transmissions.. Painfully, you have to slowly let off the gas, slowly push in the clutch, slowly shift, and reverse so you don't rev bomb and upset the car. Frustrating when hard cornering, etc. In no time I had $600k+ and can't buy a transmission to fix the shift time because it's locked behind a car level that takes 30+ minutes to get to; for every car. With that being stated, the physics have stepped up. I get what they were going for but hopefully they abolish the car level system. I hope they re-evaluate it.. until then I've refunded.

i really wanted to see a campaign. If anyone has played the f1 23 story mode, you know what i mean. I want to follow a driver and their journey. Imagine if forza had a story for different classes of racing, maybe we could have seen a gt3 campaign or an open wheel story, or maybe we follow a drivers progress as they make it through the ranks, gain a reputation and really connect to a specific driver. This games doesnt do that, theres a few cut scenes and cool graphical animations and a little dialogue, but its just pracitce, race, practice , race, move onto the next cateogry, practice, race, practice, race. Theres no final goal, no proper progression with a character. As a fan of gt3, f2, and f1 the drivers and the cars, and their bond with them, their personality and the attatchment you make to them, the enemies, the rivals, thats what makes it fun. fighting a specific driver, or specific rival gives an overtake purpose, makes a battle worth fighting for and makes the game worth playing, like it has a greater purpose. Theres no championships in the way real sports have. I think drivertars break this because drivertars arent real people, or actual characters. they change every race and its just a name. if we had a grid of 20 drivers all with characters and storys behind them, i would love to see that. I would also love to see specific race types like sprint races, endurance racing, proper qualifying sessions with multiple knock out zones like they have in f1 wheres 3 qualifiying session, each with the bottom 5 drivers getting knocked out. we should have to plan our time on track, try to avoid traffic to get a good lap in and things like that. qualifying in the new motorsport is literally a case of selecting your grid spot. theres no reward for getting pole postion on the grid. I also see no formation laps, games like assetto corsa competitione have this and its a game changer, also the start sequence is so boring, its a 3 2 1 go. i wanna see 5 red lights and a silent track with a classic beep sound when each light is turned on. It also looks like the race engineer isnt present during the race when you want them. as someone who plays at a very high difficulty level, i want to ask my race engineer how far away the car infront is, am i gaining on them, what was their last lap time, what tires are they on, etc... this all plays into strategy as i find it enjoyable to think about my long term strategy in the game. i might wanna run long on my tires, or migth want to go for an undercut, but i cant make the decisions without the information of the cars ahead and behind. also the penalty system and track limit system looks to be terrible, in the video, he sent it through 10+ cars and crashed into one of them, breached track limits and ruined the race of another driver, and the game literally said no penality. whats that all about. seriously, no penalty for doing that? I also fear multiplayer isnt going to be great with the lack of penalties and rules, i also dont think we have a ranked mode for the new motorsport and even if we did , would it be a points based division setup? also i would love to see safety ratings in both campaign and mltiplayer, all the racing you do should be displayed on your licence

Great races out there Theo! @17:12 ayoo that hatchback punted Theo!

Need the auction house, tune marketplace and drag racing like FM2, FM3 and FM4

Arcade racers needs constant stimulation boys appreciate and Sims appeal to men who focus on the skill of driving. You can’t compare the two.

Truth is the upgrade system is not ideal and people are using the accessibility controls once again the same way they did in Forza Horizon 5 to grind car levels in this case vs credits. Auto braking and steering. 😢 By all means “play” whatever way you want while you sip coffee and eat a snack while car drives itself. That’s not the way I wanna play regardless of whether or not I like the upgrade system. I’m just not about that no matter how much I don’t like the upgrade system in its current iteration. Other than that, I’m thoroughly enjoying the game and I see what they’re going for even if they’re going about it the wrong way .

I personally love this game! I've been on 7 forever. I plan to be on this game for years to come! I took all assets off and play with a controller without issue. Feels good!

9:26 for those who don’t know you can skip the practice by going to exit in pause menu ad it will have selection there

I won't be buying this but I will get the VIP upgrade from gamepass for $40. I feel like it's not a full game right now. Sure content over time is good but no nurburgring till next year and no drift support currently. Those are my 2 main things in Forza..

Like what dev really say down and said " Hey, what if we made people have to grind out 50 levels to upgrade a car so we can decentify driving multiple cars and setting up multiple builds.

I mean...i can see they worked on this game ,next is Horizon. But i still think the Shift games got that raw feeling,to me that is real

First thing I'm doing is get rid of the racing line. Well maybe the second if they force you to start with it on.

Wait if the whole shtick is that you have to build up your cars and work your way up then why did it just bombard you with a bunch of cars and money as soon as you finished the first cup.

I love it so far... I think people always looking for bad and ugly ...the truth is this is car porn just like granturismo is and I want to thank every single person involved in this.❤

so... 3:09 why is the backfire beeing reflected on the rear diffusor which should be covered by the bodywork? EDIT: The whole track lighting is reflecting on parts that should not shine on.

$120 on steam for a game that has half the features of the original that released 20 years ago. Absolutely staggering.

Theres a bug where if you change video settings you get a grey screen of washed out. Gotta exit game and re launch. That is why you see some footage of washed out picture

I'm loving this game so far, solid foundation, especially after they patch some of the bugs, but that's all the game is, a foundation. It's a superb foundation and frame, bit there are no walls, roof, ceiling, electrical, plumbing, paint, ect. This game is going to be amazing in a few years, but it should be amazing now. This game has a severe content and feature issue, it should have a dedicated drag and drift mode, it currently has a whopping zero career races for GT or LMP cars, which is unacceptable in a "Motorsport" game. I'm still enjoying the gameplay we do have, but the constant soft lock at the upgrade screen causing me to lose all my previous race progress is about to make me Uninstall the game until its fixed.

The speedometer is offensive

This proves that you don't have to make a good quality game to win. As long as you have the biggest franchise, your surely going to win

In the practice session you can press pause and then skip the practice session

It’s wonderful, me and some other players stuck in the builders cup, can’t even enter the main menu to explore

didn't know a stock mustang could split flames lol.

You can skip practice by pressing exit in the menu and it's going to say skip practice

I still think GT as a serious lack in singleplayer and AI needs a update since they are slow as heck but compared to the mess that FM8 has been i feel ive almost been to harsh to Poliphony Digital. Short career, AI, car leveling, car detail, no vr, no drifting, no dragracing, really bad optimization and much much more has made FM8 the biggest dissapointment since FM5. And honestly i had more fun in FM5... Especially since Turn10 bragged so much like this would be the best racing game of modern times and literally lies about AI and how its "built from the ground up" when it still mostly the old aero as always and reused 15 year old outdated car models.

Awesome feedback on the game so far Theo. You really gave a feel a honest perspective on the positives and somethings that need improvement or changed.

They dropped the 8 in the title because this game will be constantly updates for many years. Just because its missing some things you like now, doesn't mean it wont ever get them.

Hell im loving the gamr so far, i wanted a racing game. This is 100% a racing game. I love the practice run feture too. Im super happy with what ive experienced with my 11hrs over the weekend.

now I'm struggling to choose between Assetto Corsa Compitizione and Forza Motorsport... imo ACC could get boring after a while since it only has track cars, but Motorsport actually has street cars etc... PLEASE GUYS, choose for me!

Can't fault anything that I've tried so far. Levels are quickly attained. So i don't see the issue. Kind of feel that too many content providers are nit picking. Which when you consider that they all got early free copies. Is pretty confusing.

This is my first time back since last year . When did you get the new microphone head