Math for fun, sin(z)=2

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blackpenredpen

blackpenredpen

7 жыл бұрын

We know the range of sin(x) is between -1 and 1, inclusively, but that's just with real numbers x. What if our input for the sine function is a complex number? In fact, we can derive the complex definition of sine from the Euler's formula and we can write sin(z) in terms of complex exponential (e^(iz)-e^(-iz))/(2i) and we will be able to solve sin(z)=2.
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*Sorry I forgot the square root. |z| =sqrt(a^2+b^2)
**Also, I should have written the horizontal axis as "Re" and the vertical axis as "Im"
***The last time I did complex analysis was back in 2012

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@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen Жыл бұрын
Get an Euler's Identity e^(iπ)+1=0 t-shirt: amzn.to/427Seae
@proton..
@proton.. 8 ай бұрын
booooo
@danobro
@danobro 8 ай бұрын
I am SO getting one!
@kiseryota6960
@kiseryota6960 3 жыл бұрын
Watching 3b1b is like taking a lecture from a perfect professor and watching black pen red pen is like doing math with your smart friend.
@gabestewart-guido8299
@gabestewart-guido8299 2 жыл бұрын
Good I thought was the only one
@brockobama257
@brockobama257 2 жыл бұрын
That’s almost a diss but my smart friend has helped me more than my greatest professors just because I do the homework with my smart friend.
@abird9724
@abird9724 2 жыл бұрын
I actually almost liked this better, I feel like I'm getting a little more use to seeing i and sin and all that here, like their real and workable, watching 3b1b makes me question a lot of stuff, I love them both equally
@tictactoe101
@tictactoe101 2 жыл бұрын
@@abird9724 you can be as good as black/red pen if you do lots of exercises, but that alone can't help you reach 3b1b level
@lazarussevy2777
@lazarussevy2777 Жыл бұрын
In general I think, Grant is great at instilling necessary intuition for problems, but black black pen red pen does more interesting and somewhat unusual topics, ie ln(negatives, a+bi . . . .)
@hitchikerspie
@hitchikerspie 7 жыл бұрын
2 is pretty smal therefore z=2 amirite
@Hepad_
@Hepad_ 7 жыл бұрын
Nice physicist solving
@featheredice
@featheredice 7 жыл бұрын
z approximately equals 2 to be rigorous lol
@GodsOfMW2
@GodsOfMW2 7 жыл бұрын
@Hepad More like engineers.
@jacksainthill8974
@jacksainthill8974 7 жыл бұрын
Any explicit number is comparatively small, overall.
@wurttmapper2200
@wurttmapper2200 7 жыл бұрын
Right from harmonic motion
@charlesbromberick4247
@charlesbromberick4247 3 жыл бұрын
I mastered this stuff 60 years ago and it amazes me how well it comes back just by watching your (excellent) videos - thanks
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! I am happy to hear this.
@hyperplane69
@hyperplane69 Жыл бұрын
How old are you now
@ploppen3872
@ploppen3872 Жыл бұрын
@@hyperplane69 the real questions
@3c3k
@3c3k Жыл бұрын
@@hyperplane69 around 90 probably
@blom8241
@blom8241 Жыл бұрын
@@3c3k80*
@meliodas4560
@meliodas4560 3 жыл бұрын
LOL "You never know what will happen in the complex world so... yeah... be careful." Best math quote ever.
@Fummy007
@Fummy007 7 жыл бұрын
Title didn't lie. the math was indeed fun.
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
thanks!!!
@elymajdou5668
@elymajdou5668 5 жыл бұрын
- said no one ever*
@arnavanand8037
@arnavanand8037 5 жыл бұрын
@@elymajdou5668 shut up and leave
@mrinmoysen3860
@mrinmoysen3860 4 жыл бұрын
@@arnavanand8037 he left ages ago
@rohitashwadey4510
@rohitashwadey4510 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed it was..
@MoreCharactersThanNeeded
@MoreCharactersThanNeeded 6 жыл бұрын
0/5 The channel is called blackpenredpen but he only used white during the entire video.
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
hmm... sorry... lol~
@LevatekGaming
@LevatekGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Jonas Lecerof yes, but look at the colour of his top O_o
@thatoneguy9582
@thatoneguy9582 5 жыл бұрын
Jonas Lecerof and it’s not even a pen it’s a chalk
@mdjameel8494
@mdjameel8494 5 жыл бұрын
Black board red shirt
@edrishansari2286
@edrishansari2286 5 жыл бұрын
ঈট
@AbiRizky
@AbiRizky 7 жыл бұрын
not a single x was used in this video. what a time to do math eh
@jacksainthill8974
@jacksainthill8974 7 жыл бұрын
I heard it in the word _complex._
@amo6139
@amo6139 7 жыл бұрын
*z*
@tanithrosenbaum
@tanithrosenbaum 7 жыл бұрын
Well he used z for a complex number, which is usually composed of x + iy. So essentially that z is an ex-x. :)
@NathanTAK
@NathanTAK 7 жыл бұрын
+Tanith Rosenbaum I usually see a+bi, but it doesn't really matter since variable names are the least important thing in the entirety of mathematics, being a choice of style with no influence on the answer so long as you don't conflate anything.
@tanithrosenbaum
@tanithrosenbaum 7 жыл бұрын
Well, with a+bi, the joke wouldn't have worked :)
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
-ln(2+-sqrt(3)), kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g8tprNuDtMDGgoU.html *Sorry I forgot the square root. |z| =sqrt(a^2+b^2) **Also, I should have written the horizontal axis as "Re" and the vertical axis as "Im"
@sansamman4619
@sansamman4619 6 жыл бұрын
blackpenredpen you should learn how to write dotted lines like prof. Walter Lewin
@kevinkevins4827
@kevinkevins4827 6 жыл бұрын
blackpenredpen u
@gastonraraujo4300
@gastonraraujo4300 6 жыл бұрын
San Samman best comment ever
@McBobX
@McBobX 6 жыл бұрын
No
@ahmedouguis2429
@ahmedouguis2429 6 жыл бұрын
wtf
@brahmandsaraswat867
@brahmandsaraswat867 4 жыл бұрын
Actually for the people living in 'real' world, and with 0 'imagination', this calculation is a bit 'complex'.
@brendawilliams8062
@brendawilliams8062 3 жыл бұрын
@robertbach9376
@robertbach9376 2 жыл бұрын
Shut up, that was funny. You're a dad now
@divinebanana8400
@divinebanana8400 3 ай бұрын
Damn the amount of continuous puns is enough to change even a woman into a dad
@marmar8021
@marmar8021 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still in high school and watching this just fills me with determination
@zyrohnmng
@zyrohnmng 3 жыл бұрын
If you enjoyed this, consider taking complex analysis in university. It's filled with this :)
@viktorramstrom3744
@viktorramstrom3744 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in the second semester of 10th grade and this video was relatively easy to understand.
@vorkutavorkutlag
@vorkutavorkutlag 3 жыл бұрын
@@viktorramstrom3744 not much of a flex, he explains it really well
@robertbach9376
@robertbach9376 2 жыл бұрын
Keep learning math, grab some practice books (calc is fun imo), start practicing! Mathematics is a very powerful tool to learn
@PokemonBronze
@PokemonBronze 7 жыл бұрын
I really liked this video and even helped me understand some of my calculus courses. But the best thing happened today in my exam in "calculus 2". He asked for which numbers we can define ln(x). I remembered this video and explained it to him and this got me the best grade I've gotten in calculus. Thanks for it!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
PokemonBronze wow!!!! How wonderful!!! I am very happy to hear this!!! Thank you for sharing and this definitely brightens my day!
@chandrapal8748
@chandrapal8748 4 жыл бұрын
@@blackpenredpen this is a jee adv question that u solved u r a legend
@govindbarwa1806
@govindbarwa1806 3 жыл бұрын
Then you must have never solved a advanced level sum.
@ingenuity23
@ingenuity23 Жыл бұрын
@@govindbarwa1806 exactly this is at most mains level, and still comparatively easy
@TheMatthew6565
@TheMatthew6565 6 жыл бұрын
if sin(z)=2, z is obviously arcsin(2)...
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
: )
@Tomaplen
@Tomaplen 5 жыл бұрын
thats like saying, z = " insert correct answer"
@edwardaa8692
@edwardaa8692 5 жыл бұрын
lol the fun part is arcsin‘s domain is -1, 1
@tweeweekes5309
@tweeweekes5309 5 жыл бұрын
Edward AA yes , in the real numbers there is no answer (ie. undefined). Need to be in the complex number domain to have an answer and, as shown, it’s tricky.
@shayanmoosavi9139
@shayanmoosavi9139 5 жыл бұрын
Inverse sine domain is [-1,1] :) but nice one. You almost got me there😂😂
@ABHIGAMING-yo9my
@ABHIGAMING-yo9my 8 ай бұрын
i have small solution for this We have • sin(z)=2 •cos(z)=root(3)i Then cos(z)+isin(z)=(2+root(3))i e^(iz)=(2+root(3))i z=[ln(i)+ln(2+roor(3))]/i
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 8 ай бұрын
This is very nice!!
@Javier-id4lq
@Javier-id4lq 3 ай бұрын
Very elegant, love it! 👌🏼
@PANZER7910
@PANZER7910 4 жыл бұрын
Note to self: 1/i makes mathematician feel uncomfortable
@Nylspider
@Nylspider 4 жыл бұрын
USE -i PLEASE
@GamingWithJumbo
@GamingWithJumbo 3 жыл бұрын
or use i^-1
@GamingWithJumbo
@GamingWithJumbo 3 жыл бұрын
or i^i^2
@gtsiam
@gtsiam 3 жыл бұрын
@@GamingWithJumbo WHY? or maybe i^i^(π/2 - i*ln( 2+sqrt(3) ))
@paolo6219
@paolo6219 3 жыл бұрын
Good thing I'm not a mathematician
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 2 жыл бұрын
This is my equation of the year in 2017. To see others, please check out here 👉bit.ly/equationoftheyear
@jonathanswinsburg7716
@jonathanswinsburg7716 2 жыл бұрын
I like it, I just wish I could follow it #lost
@harshrajsinhsarvaiya3024
@harshrajsinhsarvaiya3024 2 жыл бұрын
In general, sin(z)=n If z=π/2 -i•log[n±√n²-1] And Cos(z)=n If z=i•log[n±√n²-1] Because sin(π/2-x)=Cosx
@romantchamalatdinov3640
@romantchamalatdinov3640 2 жыл бұрын
I hope I don't make a mistake but I think there is no proof of the existence of euler's formula in the complex world, so can we admit it?
@johnnychinstrap
@johnnychinstrap Жыл бұрын
@@romantchamalatdinov3640 This is a viable solution if all you are doing is finding some numbers you can plug in that satisfy the equation, but it does open up more questions than it answers. As a former engineering math professor let me tell you this solution is hyperbolic if you pardon my pun. If you look at sinh you may see better what he is trying to do here. This question is not explainable in 20 minutes and a lot of information is lost since one needs to understand that i is orthogonal to the REALS and this evolves into a helix.(and this is a hyperbolic explanation on my part since we need to consider tangent space and sub-tangent spaces etc.). . The topic is worth exploring in more depth in another video and I would hope Dr. Chow explains this is pretty much just a parlour trick with this level of explanation in his description. This is better understood in group theory. If you have a background in Group theory, specifically Lie theory and how when exponentiated, the Lie Group, this short paper may interest you. www.academia.edu/74997571/Geometric_Thoughts_with_Guest_Algebra_i_i_
@PossibleRaidWarning
@PossibleRaidWarning Жыл бұрын
Like the comment that says "12:34 that r is still stuck inside of that ln"
@GeorgeBezerra85
@GeorgeBezerra85 6 жыл бұрын
I got that exact equation as a question in my first Complex Variables exam at the university. It was actually a lot of fun to calculate that on the spot and get to the same result. Complex numbers are amazing, you just need to abandon whatever constraints you took as granted for real numbers, especially with trigonometrical functions, logarithms and such.
@selimhassairi
@selimhassairi 7 жыл бұрын
That "be careful" at the end lmao
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
hehehehe!
@sleepyfella
@sleepyfella 2 жыл бұрын
Replying to a 4 year old comment with no reply other than bprp..... Ok
@JoseFernandez-wt2ud
@JoseFernandez-wt2ud 5 жыл бұрын
Incredible work, I do not really understand English very much, but as you develop each term it is clear and it does not give rise to doubt, you are a genius and thank you for your contribution :)
@MunkyChunk
@MunkyChunk 5 жыл бұрын
Love that you went into all the little proofs for the identities/formulae you were using! Very nice and refreshing 😁
@wyattsullivan2714
@wyattsullivan2714 6 жыл бұрын
We can find the general solution to sin(z) = n, using this method, to be z = (pi/2) - ln(n +/- sqrt(n^2 - 1))i
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
Wyatt Sullivan nice!!!
@black1blade74
@black1blade74 6 жыл бұрын
that does look very similar to inverse hyperbolics
@omeraydindev
@omeraydindev 3 жыл бұрын
this is actually quite amazing!!!
@shreyassarangi6106
@shreyassarangi6106 2 жыл бұрын
I was fascinated enough by this video to try doing this by myself in 12th grade :") along with the relevant solutions for arctan and arccos. Btw, since (n+sqrt(n²-1))×(n-sqrt(n²-1))=1, you can turn the second part of the RHS into +/- ln(n+sqrt(n²-1))
@johnskeff9617
@johnskeff9617 7 жыл бұрын
Please make more content about complex numbers, I loved this video! I'd also like to see how you got from the answer in the box to the answer with the plus or minus outside the ln.
@leahgreene5880
@leahgreene5880 7 жыл бұрын
I can give you a brief rundown of how to switch where the plus/minus is: 2+sqrt(3) and 2-sqrt(3) are recipricals of each other, as can be shown by multiplying them together and getting 1 as the product. ln(a)=-ln(1/a) as ln(1/a) can be rewritten as ln(1)-ln(a) and ln(1) is 0 (or alternatively by rewriting ln(1/a) with a negative exponent and bringing down the exponent). Therefore ln(2+/-sqrt(3))=+/-ln(2+sqrt(3))=+/-ln(2-sqrt(3)).
@aka5
@aka5 7 жыл бұрын
Lisa Greene You legend
@subhrajyotidutta4725
@subhrajyotidutta4725 5 жыл бұрын
@@leahgreene5880 nice man. I like it😎
@Reallycoolguy1369
@Reallycoolguy1369 2 жыл бұрын
@@leahgreene5880 this is awesome! Does this frequently work? I never would have noticed they were reciprocals
@otherodd
@otherodd 2 жыл бұрын
@@Reallycoolguy1369 This only works in some specific cases :) When you have a number x + sqrt(y), then x^2 - y has to be equal to 0 for them being reciprocals. In this case, 4 - 3 = 1.
@stvp68
@stvp68 4 жыл бұрын
Beautifully explained-I often get lost following calculations with complex numbers, but I had no problem following your explanation!
@camrouxbg
@camrouxbg 3 жыл бұрын
I like your pedagogical style here. You explain everything clearly, and show exactly what you are doing. Well done. 👏
@leonetassinari6654
@leonetassinari6654 7 жыл бұрын
I saw the thumbnail and I said "Impossible!"... I stand corrected. Thanks for the video
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
Leone Tassinari thanks! Be sure to see the description since I did make two small mistakes.
@leonetassinari6654
@leonetassinari6654 7 жыл бұрын
I saw the |z| = a^2 + b^2 error, but it didn't affect the proof at all. Anyway I must have missed the second Edit: oh I see, the imaginary axis. That's cool man, nothing major. Sometimes I make the same mistake myself. Anyway you've widened my orizons. I guess tomorrow I'll be looking into complex trigonometry :D
@paulchapman8023
@paulchapman8023 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing that’s impossible is division by 0. Everything else is possible, even if it isn’t real.
@abrormaxmudov237
@abrormaxmudov237 4 жыл бұрын
Sinx ning qiymati -1《Sinx《1
@andreysilva8418
@andreysilva8418 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulchapman8023 i mean, division by zero *is possible* its actually non determined, because there are infinite solutions For 10/2 = 5 we can think that 2×5=10 For 10/0 = y there is no number that makes 0×y = 10 so its impossible For 0/0 = z there are infinite answers that fulfill z×0=0 There are other ways to showing this but I think this is the nicest and least complex
@AndDiracisHisProphet
@AndDiracisHisProphet 7 жыл бұрын
10:10 Whitechalkwhitechalk
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
YUP!
@EchoHeo
@EchoHeo 6 жыл бұрын
Whitechalkwhiteboldchalk
@MT-in3tp
@MT-in3tp 5 жыл бұрын
BlackblackboardWhitechalk
@quantumsoul3495
@quantumsoul3495 5 жыл бұрын
@@MT-in3tp black²boardwhitechalk
@kanishk6103
@kanishk6103 5 жыл бұрын
@@blackpenredpen how old are you?
@iplaysandro3473
@iplaysandro3473 4 жыл бұрын
Very instructive video course. I love how you take your time to explain the methodology step by step and clearly.
@gustavopaz5453
@gustavopaz5453 4 жыл бұрын
After watching this video and the one about complex logarithms, my love for the C set has grown even more. Complex numbers are an underrated beauty
@yascha80
@yascha80 7 жыл бұрын
Not very comfortable with i on the bottom That's what she said?
@thecubeur33
@thecubeur33 7 жыл бұрын
Genius
@Sonny_McMacsson
@Sonny_McMacsson 6 жыл бұрын
Genius = i·Genus Imaginary taxonomic category?
@dexternavejar8365
@dexternavejar8365 7 жыл бұрын
I started to crack up when you looked at the camera and said "I have another one"😂 Love your videos man!!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
LOLLLL
@camrouxbg
@camrouxbg 2 жыл бұрын
Oh this brings back nice memories of my summer intro complex analysis class I took in ... 1999. Oh my. That was one of the most fun classes I ever did take. And it was very helpful in getting me through the math of my geophysics degree.
@NikitaNair
@NikitaNair 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your videos!!! I cannot express the joy I feel while watching you teach ❤️❤️❤️ Keep doing what you do!!!
@avananana
@avananana 6 жыл бұрын
"I have another one", someone, make that a meme.
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
Avana hahaha
@nathannicolastoucanne7121
@nathannicolastoucanne7121 3 жыл бұрын
It's exactly what I told to myself at this moment of this video lmao
@nagarjunareddyperam3505
@nagarjunareddyperam3505 3 жыл бұрын
@@blackpenredpen hey are you from india (Andhra) ???????
@PossibleRaidWarning
@PossibleRaidWarning 8 күн бұрын
Also make 12:34 a meme "that r is still stuck inside of that ln"
@jakenodal4217
@jakenodal4217 7 жыл бұрын
Ignore the hate. People make mistakes, it's human nature. Your videos are very interesting
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Nylspider
@Nylspider 4 жыл бұрын
What hate
@Samriddha_Chatterjee
@Samriddha_Chatterjee 2 жыл бұрын
that was actually pretty fun. (also the way he reveals the 3rd board is so cool)
@NickMC512
@NickMC512 4 жыл бұрын
No joke, thanks to this video I now finally, definitively, understand how Euler’s identity is related to the unit circle! It all makes sense now! Thank you.
@vallabhdeshpande8428
@vallabhdeshpande8428 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know why I laughed at 16:00!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
LOLLLL
@rokurosora2404
@rokurosora2404 6 жыл бұрын
"I have another one!" that made me laugh so hard
@epatrono33
@epatrono33 6 жыл бұрын
sameee!!
@ufalistarotp6170
@ufalistarotp6170 6 жыл бұрын
same
@matt-ih5nq
@matt-ih5nq 6 жыл бұрын
Valhalla
@nolancheck1465
@nolancheck1465 3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea that he sneaks into the math classroom after hours to do the forbidden math
@temkin9298
@temkin9298 3 жыл бұрын
Dark magic!
@user-gh6on7fm9x
@user-gh6on7fm9x 3 жыл бұрын
Хорошо, что язык математики един, благодаря чему, не понимая ни слова, я понял почти всё
@albertabashev9563
@albertabashev9563 Жыл бұрын
Вам повезло, дружище. Китайский акцент реально напрягает
@donmoore7785
@donmoore7785 Жыл бұрын
Noting that the length was over 15 minutes, I knew it would be an awesome solution. Very cool!
@lohphat
@lohphat 7 жыл бұрын
You know they make MUCH SMALLER microphones now, right?
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
but you won't be able to see that much smaller mic thus no one will ever comment on my mic again... (My Mic likes the attention : )
@paulangus6298
@paulangus6298 5 жыл бұрын
He wants to be an Ood.
@robertmolldius8643
@robertmolldius8643 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! 😁⚡⚡
@shayanmoosavi9139
@shayanmoosavi9139 5 жыл бұрын
But that wouldn't be fun. Would it?
@jonathank4278
@jonathank4278 5 жыл бұрын
Why will he want a small Microphone?
@matyezda
@matyezda 4 жыл бұрын
When he just flexed on us with the 3rd board (16:05) I legit giggled
@liamfinn564
@liamfinn564 Жыл бұрын
Laughed so hard when you whipped out the 3rd blackboard. Maths I'll never need but fun and interesting to watch
@hashimiyazib
@hashimiyazib 3 жыл бұрын
You can also easily find ln(i) using Euler’s identity. I never thought of imaginary natural logarithms this way, but it’s definitely more interesting and useful than just hoping that you’re finding the ln of an easy power of -1.
@__donez__
@__donez__ 7 жыл бұрын
0:12 I literally bought a drink at one of those vending machines today lol
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
Donez Horton-Bailey lolll nice!!
@seagullkilla8252
@seagullkilla8252 7 жыл бұрын
did you mean r = |z| = sqrt(a^2+b^2)? at 13:05
@newsoupvialt
@newsoupvialt 7 жыл бұрын
otis neill I was wondering about that too!
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
otis neill yes
@ffggddss
@ffggddss 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, and this has now been added to the description. Good catch, otis! And good correction, blackpenredpen!
@MrRyanroberson1
@MrRyanroberson1 7 жыл бұрын
wait... r cant = z so easy! especially since z has a complex component... unless absolute value assumes the Pythagorean formula on the ocefficients to get a single real number
@seagullkilla8252
@seagullkilla8252 7 жыл бұрын
the absolute value of a complex number (z) is defined to be the "distance" (r) away from the origin of the co ordinate system of all combinations of real and imaginary numbers (R x I). if z = a + bi then a is the real component of z and b is the imaginary component; or a is how far along the real axis z is and b is how far along the imaginary axis z is. if the modulus of z (|z|) is defined to be the distance away from the origin, we can draw a right triangle out of the values a, b and the distance r; where r is the hypotenuse of the right triangle. so if we wanted to know the absolute value of z and we knew the components of it were a and b we could use the Pythagorean theorem to work out how far away from the origin it is since we know the hypotenuse squared (r^2) is the sum of the square of the other two sides then we can take the square root of both sides to find that r = sqrt(a^2 + b^2). this would lead us to the conclusion that is z = a + bi then |z| = sqrt(a^2+b^2); if we define |z| to be the distance away from the origin. i hope that helped :)
@gblargg
@gblargg Жыл бұрын
This is above the classes I took but actually understood all the steps and how you derived things. This was great.
@waiwilfred
@waiwilfred 3 жыл бұрын
Always feel satisfied when watching someone smart like you solve math question with no hesitation in front of others (or camera). Thank you all the good work.
@sleepyfella
@sleepyfella 2 жыл бұрын
Lol Ig you are in love with nerds
@user-si4vh1op2j
@user-si4vh1op2j 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing! I love how range of sin(z) was extended in complex world!
@sarthakmandal4082
@sarthakmandal4082 4 жыл бұрын
A very negligible error at 13:15 i think its supposed to be (a^2+b^2)^1/2. Enjoy the video alot though👍
@macronencer
@macronencer 4 жыл бұрын
After watching this, I was really keen to know what a full function plot of sin(z) would look like, so I did a search, and it was lovely. Thanks!
@PossibleRaidWarning
@PossibleRaidWarning Жыл бұрын
12:34 that r is still stuck inside of that ln
@PossibleRaidWarning
@PossibleRaidWarning Жыл бұрын
This needs 10,000 likes
@mueezadam8438
@mueezadam8438 7 жыл бұрын
my new favorite math channel
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
mueez adam thank you!!!
4 жыл бұрын
This was fascinating and enlightening, thanks! I watched the whole 19.5 mins, although in the beginning I thought it doesn't have a solution.
@Jesin00
@Jesin00 2 жыл бұрын
Picard's theorem says: If a non-constant function has a taylor series with an infinite radius of convergence, that function must output every complex number with at most 1 exception. e^z outputs every value except 0, and sin(z) outputs every value with no exceptions.
@mariodiaz3976
@mariodiaz3976 4 жыл бұрын
How can somebody explain such a difficult thing at first sight, in such a simple way. Thank's so much, pretty rare to find such a good explanation
@rolwindpinto1516
@rolwindpinto1516 4 жыл бұрын
This solution to a crazy looking problem completely blew my mind. Thanks for uploading a video on this :))
@subinmdr
@subinmdr 7 жыл бұрын
That means we can use ln(z) = ln|z| + iArg to find the logarithm of negative real numbers too. My life is a lie.
@karolakkolo123
@karolakkolo123 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, in fact you can extend **any** existing function into the negative values and the complex plane
@danielmiddleton6094
@danielmiddleton6094 5 жыл бұрын
You could already extend logarithms to include negative numbers using badic logarithm rules. Log a (-b) = Ln (-1 * b)/Ln (a) = (Ln (-1) + Ln (b))/Ln (a) Know if you somehow knew e^ipi = -1, you know that ln (-1) = ipi Therefore: Log a (b) = (Ln (b) + pi*i)/(ln (a) However were not done yet. If you have some experience with the unit circle and eulers formula, you know that e^ixpi = -1 where x is an odd number. Therefore, log a (-b) has infinitly many complex solutions
@sergey1519
@sergey1519 5 жыл бұрын
karolak kolo will like to see extension of factorial into the negative values and the complex plane
@karolakkolo123
@karolakkolo123 5 жыл бұрын
@@sergey1519 look up Gamma Function
@Datboy1991
@Datboy1991 5 жыл бұрын
There isn’t a unique argument for a number since the complex exponential is periodic. Since “the” complex natural logarithm depends on the choice of an argument function, there isn’t a unique choice for the natural logarithm either. Every choice has a ray from the origin on which it is not defined. The “traditional” choice is to have arguments in the interval (-pi, pi), which leads to continuity issues along the negative real axis. You can change the interval, move the problem ray somewhere else, and calculate a natural logarithm on the negative real axis. Whether or not there’s any gain to doing this, I have no clue.
@MohaMMaDiN55
@MohaMMaDiN55 5 жыл бұрын
8:53 You made me laugh when you said “what in the world is ln(i)”
@UnlistedCube0
@UnlistedCube0 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely how passionate he is about math and how there are 500k+ people subscribed. Like I know THAT many people can't love math, and it makes me happy that so many people come just to see HIS excitement about math :)
@WiinoGP
@WiinoGP 3 жыл бұрын
I was scrolling down when I saw the title and thought "why a 20min video of blackpenredpen about that? Isnt it simple to do arcsin(2)?" Then I scrolled a bit more and suddenly stop "Wait, what?!"
@ragnkja
@ragnkja 3 жыл бұрын
“That can’t possibly be real!”
@NathanJamesJerritze
@NathanJamesJerritze Жыл бұрын
Asian man breaks in to university to solve sin(z)=2
@AgglomeratiProduzioni
@AgglomeratiProduzioni 7 жыл бұрын
I was loving him, until he wrote C for the "complex axis". Then my love has been tested, and I went on loving him with a bit of bitter.
@emilsvahn5400
@emilsvahn5400 7 жыл бұрын
Ruben i like your profile pic. Diabolic tutor
@hitzcritz
@hitzcritz 4 жыл бұрын
I am planning on taking IB HL and I found this video. Now, I'm super pumped to be starting advanced math!
@adaakdeniz6033
@adaakdeniz6033 3 жыл бұрын
you're so fun while you're teaching. i'm glad that i discovered this channel 😌
@cedricp.4941
@cedricp.4941 7 жыл бұрын
Nice ! Can you show us the last magic step ? 😃
@leorio7416
@leorio7416 7 жыл бұрын
yes pls
@selimhassairi
@selimhassairi 7 жыл бұрын
Which one?
@fmakofmako
@fmakofmako 7 жыл бұрын
Cédric P. it is equivalent to saying -ln (2-sqrt (3)) = ln (2+sqrt (3)), which is equivalent to 1/(2-sqrt (3)) = 2+sqrt (3). if you multiply the left expression by (2+sqrt (3))/(2+sqrt (3)) you'll see its true.
@vikasbalani4310
@vikasbalani4310 5 жыл бұрын
If we directly put the value of sin Z =2 in Euler's form we get cos Z= sqrt (-3) which gives us sqrt3 I. Then we can take log both sides and simplify we get the same answer. Is this method correct too?
@NavSci
@NavSci 3 ай бұрын
probably yes , because another comment simplifies this by a vast amount using cosx=root of 1-sin^2x and substituting sinx=2 cosx=root3i
@zoeymccann124
@zoeymccann124 4 жыл бұрын
a value for inputting into sin such that the output is greater than one, this is too much power for one man
@SkylersRants
@SkylersRants 5 жыл бұрын
Just found this and I liked it. Very clearly presented and explained.
@loneranger4282
@loneranger4282 3 жыл бұрын
6:44 bprp: "Let's do it in our head!" Techers: **Angry noises**
@anmoljhamb8775
@anmoljhamb8775 5 жыл бұрын
OKAY THIS VIDEO IS SO SATISFYING SO CALMING, IDK, I JUST GOT A MATHGASM RN 😂😂 I'VE BEEN AWAKE SINCE 18 HOURS, AND I AM THINKING ABOUT WATCHING ANOTHER BPRP VIDEO😂
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@javisolano6810
@javisolano6810 2 жыл бұрын
Dang. Watched this for the first time in my first year of undergrad... now I'm here again in my first year of graduate school. Needed a little refresher. Thanks man!
@raphaelsbr1899
@raphaelsbr1899 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, i love your way to explain even though it's sometimes quite hard Keep it going !
@arekkrolak6320
@arekkrolak6320 7 жыл бұрын
I think if you introduce new definition of trygonometric functions you cannot assume old formulas hold true like cos -z = cos z. you need to prove it from the definition.
@MuffinsAPlenty
@MuffinsAPlenty 7 жыл бұрын
True, he's not entirely careful about a lot of the properties still holding (the video would probably be twice as long if he did!). But you can check these properties using the definitions he gave for the functions. To pull the same trick as a math professor would, those are good exercises for the viewers ;)
@arekkrolak6320
@arekkrolak6320 7 жыл бұрын
I agree, I watched the video again carefully and this new definition is derived from old one, so everything is fine!
@highdino2181
@highdino2181 6 жыл бұрын
Arek Krolak you guys are virgins
@neonet310
@neonet310 5 жыл бұрын
@@highdino2181 minecraft
@maikmeier5032
@maikmeier5032 3 жыл бұрын
@@MuffinsAPlenty : Not sure he can use the Euler equation to prove it, since that is a circular proof then. To prove it, you would need to write sin and cos as an infinite series and show the equivalency.
@housamkak646
@housamkak646 7 жыл бұрын
I really love these stuff and i always try some
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
that's great! I am glad that you like my choice of problems!
@housamkak646
@housamkak646 7 жыл бұрын
What do u think of finding @ in this A^@=-A it'll be interesting
@housamkak646
@housamkak646 7 жыл бұрын
Log_A(A^@)=log_A(-A) @(A) =log_A(-A)=log_A(Ai^2) @(A)=log_A(Ai^2)= log_A(A) +log_A(i^2) =1+2log_A(i) But log_A(i) =(Π/(2lnA))i @(A) =1+(Π/lnA)i :)
@dreamiitdep2521
@dreamiitdep2521 3 жыл бұрын
best thing i saw on internet today i had the knowledge of all the formulas you used still i got amazed
@umermehmood342
@umermehmood342 4 жыл бұрын
You are great sir This video saves a lot of my time You have tought every single step extraordinarily.
@marcoscandido3793
@marcoscandido3793 7 жыл бұрын
we gunna over-look the supreme shirt?
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 7 жыл бұрын
lol!
@brianfisher1305
@brianfisher1305 6 жыл бұрын
For blackpenredpen, yes. Anyone else, no.
@komeleduc
@komeleduc 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reminding haha
@anmoljhamb8775
@anmoljhamb8775 5 жыл бұрын
AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED THE DERIVATION OF FIBONACCI'S GENERAL TERM AT 16:43? (In the erased part I mean 😂)
@captainteach007
@captainteach007 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome maths. Everything you put down made sense but I would never have been able to work that out on my own.
@benderamp
@benderamp 2 жыл бұрын
very nice. could not stop until the end
@ronantremoureux3743
@ronantremoureux3743 5 жыл бұрын
I seen it, and i was like: omg i Will tell huim this mistake and it's already done, so nevermined, you forgot the square root at 13:04
@comprehensiveboycomprehens8786
@comprehensiveboycomprehens8786 6 жыл бұрын
You never know what will happen in the complex world. Be careful.
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
hehehe
@danielvieira8374
@danielvieira8374 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! It is not easy to find books that motivates such calculations. I think everything is correct, but it is important to take account that the exponential function in the complex domain is no invertible, so we need to retrict the domain to pass the ln. Everythink works nice when |imz|
@mariorestrepojcg
@mariorestrepojcg 5 жыл бұрын
¡Simplemente, Majestuoso! Saludos desde Medellín, Colombia!!!
@studywithjosh5109
@studywithjosh5109 6 жыл бұрын
ATDP in Evans’s hall :) love that building
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
josh davis yup!!!!
@euclidofkekistan6071
@euclidofkekistan6071 6 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't there be infinitely many solutions because of complex logarithm?
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 6 жыл бұрын
Euclid of Kekistan Yes. I have that around 18:45
@Omar-mn1eb
@Omar-mn1eb 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! This taught me so much!
@channel_0025
@channel_0025 Жыл бұрын
For a quadratic equation of x where the coefficient of x is even, this formula is useful: x = (-b'±√((b')^2)-ac)/a, where b' = b/2 This can speed up the calculation from 05:43 (especially since a = 1 in this case)
@Caesim9
@Caesim9 7 жыл бұрын
the "problem" is at 8:30 . On the complex plain, ln(z) isn't fully defined. Of course this worked, but life isn't that easy..
@Mernom
@Mernom 7 жыл бұрын
2:45 I was just wondering what would happened if you want to treat that - as if it belongs to I... Math is cool
@BroArmyCommander
@BroArmyCommander 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I just love the vibes on this video. Rewatching after a long time
@BroArmyCommander
@BroArmyCommander Жыл бұрын
Back again
@vynderma
@vynderma 4 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your videos. Thank you!
@joaolima4787
@joaolima4787 5 жыл бұрын
3 blackboards. Amazing
@xyzabc3091
@xyzabc3091 5 жыл бұрын
Sir I was searching magic values of sin It came first
@gapplegames1604
@gapplegames1604 2 жыл бұрын
bro i paused the vid in the very beginning, solved the equation on my own a COMPLETELY different way, and got the same answer and i’m sooo happy
@GalliadII
@GalliadII 11 ай бұрын
You, Sir, made me love complex numbers.
@zetsuu1106
@zetsuu1106 3 жыл бұрын
No homo but he looks cute when he smiles innocently like that every now and then
@johi5951
@johi5951 7 жыл бұрын
would you resolve the integral brought by sheldon cooper in TBBT? x^2*e^-x?
@dariobarisic3502
@dariobarisic3502 7 жыл бұрын
That's not hard, you just use partial integration formula, integral of (u*dv)=u*v-integral of (v*du), with u being x^2 and v being the exponential in the first use, and u being x, and v being e^-x in the second use of the formula.
@johi5951
@johi5951 7 жыл бұрын
Dario Barišić i used integration by parts with the DI method and i got the answer. Thanks anyways :)
@osmium3132
@osmium3132 Жыл бұрын
Blew my mind man! I'm in 12th grade and barely just got my hands on complex numbers. I've seen a lot of these videos where a teacher answers a question which seems impossible, but the math is always quite advanced and sometimes I can't understand the equations. Here you use somehow basic formulas (Euler's, quadratic, ln...) and every line of calculus is limpid. Very nice ! Plus, I leave this here for anyone who sees it: it could be really interesting to create a geometric representation (similar to the trigonometric circle) of the sine and cosine functions but for complex numbers. I wonder what it would look like.
@szerszen5722
@szerszen5722 4 жыл бұрын
You are great man! I love watching your films. Greetings from University Wroclaw!
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