6 DEVS Compete to Make the BEST GAME for $10,000
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DEVS:
[Lighthoof Dryden]
Disinherited: store.steampowered.com/app/29...
KZfaq: / @lighthoofdryden
[Bewky]
Game: drive.google.com/file/d/1sC0b...
KZfaq: / @bewky
[Lixian]
Immune Heart: Steam page COMING SOON
KZfaq: / @lixiantv
[Codeer]
Game: drive.google.com/file/d/1CUVq...
KZfaq: / @codeer
[Moonleaf Studio]
KZfaq: • I tried Making a HORRO...
Dungeon Crawler: shorte.itch.io/dungeon-crawler
[Strompy]
Game: strompy.itch.io/grimalkin-the...
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[Thomas Stewart]
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KZfaq: / @thomasstewartdev
[Lychee Game Labs]
Patch Quest: store.steampowered.com/app/13...
KZfaq: / @lycheegamelabs
[DualWielded]
Incaved Runner: store.steampowered.com/app/26...
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[Blackthornprod]
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2:34 - QUARTER FINALS development phase
13:59 - QUARTER FINALS judging phase
18:12 - SEMI FINALS development phase
27:15 - SEMI FINALS judging phase
30:18 - FINALS development phase
34:20 - FINALS judging phase
@Blackthornprod 3 ай бұрын
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@maksydab 3 ай бұрын
make some more videos of you working on game like with your artstyle please
@reedepley1835 3 ай бұрын
i think you should acutly make one were the viewers vote on who wins but so there is no bias dont tell them who made who untill the winner is decided
@reedepley1835 3 ай бұрын
would also love one were the main theme is sacrifice's must be made
@michaelhooper1717 3 ай бұрын
There needs to be some deep reevaluation in the voting system and how to create anonymity and fairness so that these contests don't turn into popularity contests. Game developing should be on the merit of the game not a 1 million + creator winning a popularity contest with a worse game
@Blackthornprod 3 ай бұрын
The voting was anonymous
@Quackleb 3 ай бұрын
Dryden absolutely dominated, the visuals, music, gameplay and lore were all up to par with a fully released game
@code-cans 3 ай бұрын
true, yet i think it was a bit basic (2d platforming, being chased, parrying, rng + bosses) except for the well implemented themes and objectively good quality overall!
@user-oe3kz8ww7d 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I really don't understand how he lost. All the way through I've felt like they aren't showing us a lot of Immune Heart, because for me it would have definitely gone on the semi-finals.
@thomasgraham8035 3 ай бұрын
@@user-oe3kz8ww7d I was really suprised too. Just imo Lixian's game didn't really have much depth, he mentioned 'lore' and then there was nothing, just seemed to be walking around. While Dryden's game looked really awesome. Come off as unfair too with the community vote felt unfair too with how well known/liked Lixian is.
@kinghurghada9538 3 ай бұрын
Lixian won because he's popular (he does video montage for Markiplier)
@dannybee9068 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, Lyxian managed to create good horror experience. But I feel like Dryden created something more and death chasing after you is really cool mechanic, I would love for him to expand the game into this idea and develop it further.
@valeryfoyniak4934 3 ай бұрын
Lixian: has 1.3 million subs Dryden: has 2k subs Lixian: wins the community voting Judges: **surprised pikachu face**
@puppythingcolonthree 3 ай бұрын
Yeah idk what they were thinking tbh
@NicoPhysics 3 ай бұрын
It pisses me off so much how Dryden was robbed
@dude51_ 3 ай бұрын
And Lixian works for markiplier , so even more of a community
@firegame10 3 ай бұрын
scam
@zcartre83 3 ай бұрын
In the end it was a popularity contest
@Isaac-qo4bp 2 ай бұрын
I don’t see how Dryden didn’t win this. - Better Music - Better Visual - Better implementation of the themes - Better gameplay loop - Better Lore
@GabeyShark7 Ай бұрын
Yes but I think what most people find appealing in indie games these days, especially in more of a horror kinda genre, are 3D games with PSX graphics.
@dembi2770 Ай бұрын
@@GabeyShark7 the issue was that there are tons of games similar to Dryden's. Obviously there are games like Lixian's but i feel like they are less over-saturated.
@Shoulderpads-mcgee Ай бұрын
@@GabeyShark7I wouldn’t say one genre is significantly more popular than the other. Certainly not a 70/30 split at any rate.
@nwonknu- 14 күн бұрын
@@dembi2770 Wdym? I feel like it's the other way around; I can only think of two games that are similar to Dryden's (Don't Starve Together, Spelunky) whereas I feel like there are a *lot* of games similar to Lixian's.
@BxPanda7 13 күн бұрын
It's simple, Dryden's game is like a gourmet dish, very refined, neatly presented, and tasted delicious. But Lixian's game is like a big fat double cheeseburger with a side of fries and a large coke, and when people are hungry, most will go for the fast food over the gourmet dish. It's one of the reasons why serious competitions don't ask for the public to vote.
@RyanRex 3 ай бұрын
Reading the comments, I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt unsatisfied by the judges decisions.
@fallenking2719 11 күн бұрын
Especially putting Bewky over Airidas ( The most generic ragdoll game chosen over an unique fighting game with a twist )
@ugandanbasement5020 3 ай бұрын
Spoiler blocker❌❌❌
@saidahmad4073 3 ай бұрын
Ty!
@DibzzehM8 3 ай бұрын
You are the man
@stinkystinkystinker 3 ай бұрын
ily so much
@crak-_-4U 3 ай бұрын
Since spoilers have been blocked, here's my take. Amongst the first 4 games chosen, one was definitely not in theme and thus disqualified in my opinion.
@XxXMrSisterFisterXxX 3 ай бұрын
pin this
@caleb6588 3 ай бұрын
Actually insane how talented Dryden is. Props to all the devs but the amount of content he managed to get done is crazy.
@LighthoofDryden 3 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏 21 18+ hour days on pure adrenaline nearly was the end of me but it was worth it!! More content to come :)
@caleb6588 3 ай бұрын
@@LighthoofDryden Can't wait to see where it goes. :)
@Sin-us4nb 3 ай бұрын
@@LighthoofDrydeninsane game! I was convinced you were the winner since the first week lol
@Bootinyourbutt19199 3 ай бұрын
@@LighthoofDrydenyour work is incredible and I could definitely see the game blowing up! I will be following to hear more about it. Should’ve been your win!
@DL_LSR 3 ай бұрын
@@LighthoofDryden i wishlisted your game, i think it's very promising so can't wait for release
@abrokeprogrammer 2 ай бұрын
Airidas losing in first part is criminal, he was the most one sticking with the subject
@drago939393 2 ай бұрын
Yeah for me Week 1 was Airidas, Dryden and Codeer on a level above Brewky and Lixian.
@chapteronefrog 15 күн бұрын
Yeah, it really feels like they only had Lixian moving forward BC of his following
@lordcaprisunthe2nd 6 күн бұрын
@@chapteronefrogthat’s exactly why he didn’t get eliminated in the 1st week
@etmason 3 ай бұрын
every other dev was losing as soon as Dryden made that character model bro, they literally never stood a frickin chance against Drydens masterpiece of a game.
@nuggetnugget1878 Ай бұрын
And yet he lost, so rigged
@etmason Ай бұрын
@@nuggetnugget1878 yeah i’ve lost a lot of respect for BTP recently they keep making garbage decisions
@epicperson137 3 күн бұрын
@@etmason They both voted for Dryden, did you even watch the video?
@etmason 2 күн бұрын
@@epicperson137 yeah i watched it all the way through and was pissed off when he lost
@etmason 2 күн бұрын
wasn’t it due to a stupid popularity contest
@tinytigertamer 3 ай бұрын
Don’t get me wrong, Lixian’s game was cool, but Dryden was absolutely robbed of this win. The man literally composed his own music for this game. He made such an original and unique game and I am dying to see him expand upon it. I think it was a mistake including the community in the vote. Most average community members are not experienced with the time and effort that goes into creating these games, or what makes a good game. Plus, Lixian has a much larger audience than Dryden, so of course he is going to win the community vote. It turned into a popularity contest for people not games and that’s honestly so disappointing.
@michaelhooper1717 3 ай бұрын
adding a community vote in this competition has to be the biggest braindead move ive ever seen. It would've been leagues more fair if they did what they did in the past with a past competitor vote
@super_sentai9998 3 ай бұрын
voting was anonymous. wasnt a popularity contest. I agree that Drydens was much more polished though.
@pheartehgrimace 3 ай бұрын
@@super_sentai9998 apparently Lixian has his name in the file for the game...
@Hietakissa 3 ай бұрын
"he made his own music" doesn't make the game any better. The lore was decent, it's a pretty cool concept and the bosses were cool along with the good-looking visuals, but the gameplay otherwise looked generic and the combat very bare-bones
@pheartehgrimace 3 ай бұрын
@@Hietakissa Lixian had original combat? He didn't even have an inventory system and Dryden put in a whole skill and trading scheme
@LighthoofDryden 3 ай бұрын
PHEW, this was definitely the most intense few weeks I’ve ever done! Thanks for having me on, what an honor to compete alongside these devs 😄
@jamestheepic2510 3 ай бұрын
Your game looked PHENOMENAL and had my vote from the start - so glad to hear it’s being released!
@BboyofRandomness 3 ай бұрын
You had my vote! Will look forward to steam release
@snowown 3 ай бұрын
You had my vote, excellent idea! Looking forward to buying the game when it releases.
@APolygons2 3 ай бұрын
No matter what, I personally think you 100% deserved the win. The only other game that looked like it would compete lost to not carrying the theme well enough, which was fair. But I was so sure you had in the bag after that. I am shocked you didn't win. It was one of, if not the best and most interesting game I have seen in any of these competitions or challenges period. It genuinely seemed like a game that I would buy and play.
@KaiserTheDemon 3 ай бұрын
Did a damn good job, especially incoorporating the themes given to you. I feel yours was the best with theme use and am looking forward to its steam release!
@1BP6 2 ай бұрын
Dryden was the only one who made the theme feel so real in his game, made the most polished and actually playworthy game.
@Pirouyy Ай бұрын
Let's be honnest, Lixian's game was good, but you would play it after downloading it for free on halloween night with pals, whereas Dryden's game, I would actually buy it.
@dinoeebastian 3 ай бұрын
nah, Dryden's game was just better, Lixian's great, but Dryden's just fit best with everything
@realElectroZap 3 ай бұрын
yup, unfair judging
@aryanmoody 3 ай бұрын
I find it awesome that THE Markiplier’s editor is just casually here 😂 (I am aware he’s done some serious projects as well, I just have memories of him as the editor)
@draconic6352 3 ай бұрын
Yeah the community vote idea was dumb and having it worth 2 was dumber bc it literally just ended up as a popularity contest, and bc lixian has over 1 mil subs, he won even tho his game was nowhere near as good
@jerrebrasfield4231 3 ай бұрын
Lixians was too much like doom the original, except doom had a better story and more quality gameplay.
@lightswitch2622 2 ай бұрын
@@jerrebrasfield4231 obviously doom is going to be better. They had a team of people and worked on it far longer
@Stalkie 3 ай бұрын
Insane Dryden did not win, the game was so polished and thought out, all the mechanics together made perfect sense, the implementation of the curveballs he was thrown fit it like they were originally planned, the artstyle was absolutely gorgeous and polished, and he composed multiple pieces of music.
@AutisticJesusGaming 3 ай бұрын
It was the community thing exclusively. He won both because he’s more popular
@proximacentauri1172 2 ай бұрын
It was so thought-out and planned because it was literally a copy of Spelunky. All the thinking was done earlier.
@Weirdo_Studios206 2 ай бұрын
The guy who won, won because his game was 3D. Not discounting what he did at all, his game is awesome, but people see a 3D game and automatically think it's more impressive than a 2D game.
@SomeOtherTroper 2 ай бұрын
@@Weirdo_Studios206 As soon as I saw a throwback to the early Resident Evil games and their clones/ripoffs with that old-school lower polygon artstyle and pixelated 'crunch' in a competition starting with "Memento Mori" as a theme, I knew it was going to win. The combination of that style with creepy mysterious biolabs crawling with zombies is an absolute killer mix for anyone who played those games back in the day. I will say, it was a very good execution on the concept, unlike a lot of shovelware stuff that tries to capture that nostalgia. I'm interested to see where the dev takes the project from there.
@soundcloudgoblin3445 2 ай бұрын
@@proximacentauri1172 A more boring version of Spelunky, that combat and movement looked dreadful
@beep5798 Ай бұрын
It's a pity that people preferred a first-person shooter with horror elements, instead of a roguelike platformer with honed gameplay, unique style and music. Dammit, he even made unique bosses and perfectly implemented all the themes that were offered to him. Dryden bro you deserve more than this measly $10,000
@uBreeze 3 ай бұрын
Awgh, I’m so annoyed Disinherited didn’t win! The amount of polish and mechanical consistency was insane. It looked so much fun.
@darndevilYt 3 ай бұрын
Dryden 100% should have won that...
@Vexceed 2 ай бұрын
Fr Like god damn rigged
@theswamps6589 Ай бұрын
i think lixian deserved it too. he did so well. I want to play drydens game though, and I think this video already did him better than the 10k wouldve, since his steam release will have a bunch of people wanting to buy it.
@PaxsonWilliams-pz6tk Ай бұрын
Dryden's game fit with the theme very well and seemed much more charming and replayable, but lixian definitely did a decent job with his game. I think dryden's game was better though.
@xamoel3884 23 күн бұрын
Lixian stuck to the theme better but Dryden made a better game that feels finished
@CobraClub04 Күн бұрын
Dryden’s game is literally Fire and Water knockoff
@sugarsores6521 3 ай бұрын
It is genuinely offensive that Dryden didn't win... Stuck to theme, showed immense resolve in adapting to the modifiers, completely original art and music, boss fights!?!? If it wasn't for the +2 from a community vote of 1.2 million, it'd be obvious. Also crazy that that was a +2 in the first place.
@codyjorgensen8170 3 ай бұрын
right? like maybe if there was an even number of judges and they needed a tiebreaker...but to give the community vote the power to flip the result? shady af.
@michaelhooper1717 3 ай бұрын
@@codyjorgensen8170 Even if there is an even number of judges to incorporate the community as a +2 is disingenuous at best. They should have incorporate previous competitors to cast a vote as well which I believe would have resulted in Dryden winning the competition.
@OhSoUnicornly 3 ай бұрын
@@michaelhooper1717 I disagree about the last part, but yes they should've kept it in mind that Lixian had a much bigger community (which I didn't know). I like that they are including community votes because I think it's important to have more opinions, but maybe they should only do that if both the creators have similar sized followings, and/or they should keep the game creators anonymous and ban any kind of advertising or giving away the fact they are taking part.
@Feltezz 3 ай бұрын
Apparently the identities of the devs were anonymous, though
@cornyboi932 3 ай бұрын
@@michaelhooper1717 The voting is anonymous bro, the community for the project they liked the most not the dev, so no its not a "popularity contest", people on the indie dev scene simply really like Survival Horror games and Lixian made a really awesome survival horror game.
@mitchellbaker6528 3 ай бұрын
I like how the major themes introduced to the games were part of the final result. Computer- computer problems. Chaos- let the internet decide. Pirates- winner was robbed.
@SytanOfficial 2 ай бұрын
This TOO GOOD Justice for Dryden, even as a Lixian fan lmao
@Shoulderpads-mcgee Ай бұрын
I wish somehow there were birds tho
@kryptobash9728 3 ай бұрын
WTFFF, I feel so bad for dryden. He was obviously robbed. Both games were good, but Dryden seems more complete, more lore, and had a better plot and fighting system. Lixian game was good for a one time play thru, but Dryden's had way more replayability and seemed overall more fun with the different builds and ways you could defeat enemies, not to mention the lore for each boss. I am shocked Dryden lost.
@kryptobash9728 3 ай бұрын
And I didn't even mention the music, wow, I feel so bad for him. He is a great game dev!!! Your work was def noticed bro, keep up the great work. It felt like he really put the time into incorporating the themes to and is overall a very creative game dev!
@Juincy 3 ай бұрын
There is no shot Dryden did not win
@Juincy 3 ай бұрын
I don't know if I believe it wasn't planned or backstage stuff happening. Also I don't think Bewky's game did what the challenged asked for at all.
@Kizuske 3 ай бұрын
Yeah it's kinda weird, the other game was good but Dryden's was a fully finished roguelike which looked a lot more charming
@APolygons2 3 ай бұрын
I would call rigged, but 70% votes from the community? just why and... how?
@neilcognito 3 ай бұрын
Whilst I agree that he had the more appealing game, I think you also forgot that Lixen also has a very polished, awesome game as well. Add that tot he fact that Horror games tend to be more attractive to KZfaq audiences and Lixen is very popular - it's not surprising. and both people need to be celebrated for their hard ass work. Cause I know you nor I couldn't have done it.
@xyzabc198 3 ай бұрын
I don't think it was planned or "backstage stuff" that happened, I think there is one very obvious reason why Lixen won this. The judges were in favor of Dryden winning, so it all came up to the people's vote, who is Lixen to "the people"? He is Markipliers editor and is very well known, who is Dryden to "the people"? Nobody really knows him like they do Lixen. This just became a popularity contest when it went to the public...
@AddingAUsername 3 ай бұрын
Next time keep the names of the developers hidden in the community poll to make it less of a popularity contest. Just show the games and let people decide based on that.
@DanielRamirez-gu5xq 3 ай бұрын
THIS
@rjgraylight 3 ай бұрын
This for sure!
@tiacool7978 3 ай бұрын
I still would have voted for the horror game. The visual style of Dryden's game isn't my thing. Generally the style he leans towards in these videos aren't my thing. So I doubt removing their names will change anything.
@krish20006 3 ай бұрын
THIS
@j-bone9472 3 ай бұрын
It may not be "your thing" but it's a better game. @@tiacool7978
@alejorag 3 ай бұрын
Lixian's game leans way more towards what I usually like in videogames but in their current state it was an absolute joke that Dryden didn't win, thing was more polished than other games I've actually paid money for, what a beast
@ushift 3 ай бұрын
Dryden was robbed so hard. Wth even is that. The guy wrote his own music, had 3 bosses, a whole item system, and upgrade system. Dryden basically had a whole game. And Lixians suprise was what? An upgrade system? Won by jump scares and popularity. Note to all competitors to go far in future, just make a horror game. What a disappointment.
@zalox12 2 ай бұрын
Details about liaixan game- two jumpscare total~ 1. Zombie(just run and scream😑) 2.shark( comes out of no where?how shark learnt to fly?) And shotgun without ammo rounds. And character using is like having experience in wars and he is doctor or scientist. That's it. Nothing creative. Nothing unique.no inventory. Nothing interesting bosses like deyden. But still won. Wow what a unfair challenge.
@MichaelScott-zr1sy 3 ай бұрын
Glad to know im not the only person who felt dryden had this in the bag
@VanillaSpooks 3 ай бұрын
Please don’t let the community vote for the finale again, it was definitely biased. But both games were cool to see!
@sirsapphire3499 3 ай бұрын
It could have been a community vote if it was blind and the names weren't associated. In fact, I even think it would be better than just judges, but having their names known instead of purely based on the games turned it into a popularity contest that stole all credibility from it.
@VanillaSpooks 3 ай бұрын
@@sirsapphire3499 I agree
@VanillaSpooks 3 ай бұрын
I also wasn’t a fan of how the interpretations were judged. Felt a little too direct and biased towards horror games some of the votes imo
@bvamosD 2 ай бұрын
The community voting was anonymus so there was no bias at all.
@Gunnin_yadown 2 ай бұрын
@@bvamosD apparently lixian's game had his name on the files.. Apparently.
@Kobtron1000 2 ай бұрын
Dryden really made that game. It's really impressive how good he put computer and piracy in his game
@BakedPotatoYT1 Ай бұрын
Nah, Dryden won this competition. He stuck to the theme and added upon it with more mechanics, boss fights, music, and items. He absolutely got robbed of a win just because of the community vote where Lixian has more of (1m+ subs vs 2k+ subs). There's already 5 judges so the voting wouldn't be a tie either way, it's like they're begging for Lixian to win in this one with the community 2+ vote.
@Catwomen4512 3 ай бұрын
Amazing job Dryden. Also as a mathematician, I especially appreciated the inclusion of Ada Lovelace ❤
@LighthoofDryden 3 ай бұрын
That makes me so excited to read 😄 as the world’s okayest math user, I salute the work you real ones do 🫡
@mcfree3303 3 ай бұрын
Everybody knows Dryden is the real winner 🏆 can’t believe he didn’t get first place
@michaelhooper1717 3 ай бұрын
Shameful they added a popularity contest with a popular creator in the mix. Really well thought out guys...
@Gunnin_yadown 2 ай бұрын
Judges should be the judges.. Not the community.
@gogglesnakdev-nt3yw Ай бұрын
honestly i hated the 2d style
@mcfree3303 Ай бұрын
@@gogglesnakdev-nt3yw I can see that also wasn't my cup of tea, but his game, despite the art style, was still waaaayyyy better than the rest.
@vl5164 2 ай бұрын
Ngl the surprise twist winner got me to Dryden's steam page and had me wishlist his two games partially out of spite/outrage, and I know I'm not the only one. So even though he didnt win I hope his efforts will be rewarded down the line. I like the creativity he used with the theme and with implementing each twist. Both his games look great! I love seeing the different ways everyone implements the theme, great series, I look forward to all the videos on this channel
@valentinferaud4613 3 ай бұрын
Dryden’s game looks amazing, waiting for him to release it !! Good job to all the devs
@Deeslav 3 ай бұрын
Having a community vote turns to a popularity contest, instead of picking the best game. Dryden definitely robbed imo.
@sirsapphire3499 3 ай бұрын
The only thing needed to fix it was make it a blind vote. It definitely could have worked if they didn't say who developed each one but since they did I 100% agree with you.
@michaelhooper1717 3 ай бұрын
This really turned me off from the video like how was there no oversight on that not being a biased and ultimately tarnished vote that just turned into a popularity contest and not a game dev competition.
@toddclark419 3 ай бұрын
I still think a community vote is a bad idea. People aren’t likely to play through an entire game and rate objectively.
@albertb4460 3 ай бұрын
@@michaelhooper1717 Dude, we get it, stop spamming. You're on every single reply. People make mistakes, it happens, move on
@Kurejy 2 ай бұрын
@@michaelhooper1717 oh but it was an anonymous comunity vote
@mandlamtsweni8166 3 ай бұрын
Codeer was way too talented to mess up like that 😭😭😭
@allgreatfictions 3 ай бұрын
His first week's progress made him instantly my favourite, even though I understood the lack of theme. The minute that he changed it to Sci fi, it was nowhere near as charming and I knew it had no chance because there wasn't a theme at all really anymore.
@OhSoUnicornly 3 ай бұрын
Yeah he just didn't fit the theme though, silly way to mess up.
@alexandrerdnaxela 3 ай бұрын
@@OhSoUnicornly But to me he's one of them that fit the theme the most ? Like, almost no game used "remembering the death" as a mechanic, and in his game you had to use the parts of dead animals to make new animals
@OhSoUnicornly 3 ай бұрын
@@alexandrerdnaxela I believe the specific translation though is "remember YOU must die", not "remember death". That would be memento mortis. Depends on the exact brief they were given but I think remembering you, the player, are mortal is pretty important.
@alexandrerdnaxela 3 ай бұрын
@@OhSoUnicornly then nobody fit the theme at all
@williammiketon5413 2 ай бұрын
the little addition of the momentos was soo sic, lowkey very excited to play this game
@dodobird5 2 ай бұрын
what the hell guys, dryden CLEARLY deserved the win here wth, get this man $10k
@user-gy9ih6ym9o 3 ай бұрын
To be honest I was surprised that zombie game survived the first round but outvoting Dryden seems a little too much.
@kryptobash9728 3 ай бұрын
Bro thats what I was saying lmaoo, wanted the Airidas dude cause i wanted to see more of his game
@Raderade1-pt3om 2 ай бұрын
Yeah it felt generic but awesome
@bottleofcat 2 ай бұрын
How are you surprised? Like half the devs went completely off topic and just did what they wanted to do
@Bruno.GCF05 2 ай бұрын
@@bottleofcatAnd Dryden was the only one to FULLY stick to the theme, even the one given to him by others. When he got "piracy" he not simply added a pirate, but a full SECTION of the game dedicated to pirates. He even considered the other meaning of "piracy" when being able to steal from the shops.
@Powhuh 2 ай бұрын
tbf the zombie game was still awesome but yeah drydens was next level
@Svenburchard 3 ай бұрын
Dryden what an achievement, I will buy this game. Don't let the second place disway you. You deserved the win, no doubt about it. But I guess some of the judges really like jump-scares. The world feeling you built is top tier.
@LighthoofDryden 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, that means a whole lot! I’m feeling more motivated than ever to finish and make the final game as cool as it is in my head 😎
@krish20006 3 ай бұрын
@@LighthoofDryden fr watching the entire video i was thinking that its settled dryden would win it was perfect your game was perfect the music and all even in last challenge i loved your music and gonna sub and watch u now XD
@DreadHalfling9 3 ай бұрын
@@LighthoofDryden your game was awesome has tons of replayability and is overall a game I could see spending a significant amount of money on. The other kinda just felt like an asset flip so not sure how you got second 😅
@pheartehgrimace 3 ай бұрын
@@LighthoofDryden Yeah I'm hands down buying this game.
@travv88 2 ай бұрын
@@LighthoofDryden It genuinely seemed like it was the winner. In my mind I just "knew" you had won, but was shocked to see you didn't. The comments here reflect that.
@wardenod7164 3 ай бұрын
Lixian picked a brilliant art style/vibe that I think benefitted his game a lot, Dryden clearly IMO the far-and-away most talented human and most holistically awesome, mechanically sound, well-thought out game of the challenge. Guy totally deserved the win for me
@p0p 2 ай бұрын
Cant support this challenge with the blatant robbery of Dryden's vote at the end, cant believe a mediocre indie retro horror title won over his concept???
@rainbowselectric 3 ай бұрын
lmao everyone knows Dryden won. The amount of detail and complexity behind his game was incredible. I would have liked to see more of Lixian's game though if it actually was better
@Hietakissa 3 ай бұрын
I feel Lixian's 1st person horror adventure appeals to a wider audience than a metroidvania-ish 2D platformer
@rainbowselectric 3 ай бұрын
@@Hietakissa I agree. I would more likely see myself playing Lixian's game if I found them both on Steam for free. I don't think the initial appeal should have much weight in this competition though. I would imagine it's hard to judge the games fairly when they are all so different
@Hietakissa 2 ай бұрын
@@rainbowselectric so why do you think Dryden should've won if you'd rather play Lixian's game? Shouldn't that make it the better game in your opinion, and thus more worthy of winning? I do agree comparing such different games is very difficult, especially when trying to be unbiased.
@rainbowselectric 2 ай бұрын
@@Hietakissa Dryden's game seems like a more fulfilling and complete experience if you were to play the whole thing. Also Lixian's game just seems like a walking simulator after seeing all the gameplay
@Shoulderpads-mcgee Ай бұрын
@@Hietakissaliking something and wanting to experience it again isn’t the same as recognizing quality. I recognize The Godfather is a masterpiece and that the live action Cat in the Hat movie is hot garbage but I have certainly watched Cat in the Hat for fun way more than I’ve ever rewatched The Godfather lol. Not saying these games are comparable to either of those films, just that you can feel something is of higher quality but still decide to engage and enjoy with the other option more.
@Codeer 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for having me! this competition was super fun and the video turned out great
@dier7144 3 ай бұрын
I miss you bro, your my fav game dev KZfaqr
@dibondudu9221 3 ай бұрын
The aesthetic of your game was awesome !
@ragerungames 3 ай бұрын
I miss your devlogs. Good to see you here! ❤
@Beany224 3 ай бұрын
Make more devlogs please 🥺❤️
@aarondefriez3505 3 ай бұрын
Seeing you in the game competition was defenetly a pleasant surprise. I always love seeing what you come up with, looking forward to what you'll make in the future!
@Litchbane117 2 ай бұрын
Dryden in the semifinals blew me away. With a game that has no technological computer elements, I thought it would be hard to implement computers or technology as a new theme. Not only does his fix for the problem prove me wrong, but the technological section he added adds such a cool and unique twist to an already great looking game!
@Lu.9 Ай бұрын
I love the guy who does hand drawn characters - such good jdeas + doesnt feel like a stereotypical game
@ln0ccent 3 ай бұрын
Hell nah drydan ate this competition up idk how yall didnt see that but bro had a whole releasable game
@rjgraylight 3 ай бұрын
I'm surprised the judges let Lixian through to the end honestly. I feel like there was popularity bias and the community voted for their favorite person rather than their favorite game for sure. Not to mention, Lixian's bias with Markiplier and Momento Mori just felt unfair in his favor too. I mean, Lixian's game has no replayability, was unfinished, unpolished, and there were multiple complaints about it... Whereas everyone seemed to genuinely enjoy DisInherited and everyone, especially the dev, seemed stoked about that game whereas Lixian wasn't even excited or even sure if he'd finish the game...
@eisen161 3 ай бұрын
I tend to agree, but I will say that the theme doesn't really benefit Lixian at all. Was it a nod toward Markiplier...who knows. But even if it was, it was an objectively very cool theme with unlimited interpretations that I think all the developers enjoyed working with. Maybe that wasn't the point you were trying to make with that piece.
@LucolanYT 3 ай бұрын
Idk, I didn't know who Lixian was before the comments and I figured his game deserved its spot in the finals. The way he won over Dryden was highway robbery and unfair, though.
@OhSoUnicornly 3 ай бұрын
I thought Lixian's should've gone out first round for sure. It was generic and didn't even fit the theme that well.
@seccuenta50ydos 3 ай бұрын
I disagree I think that Lixian did a really good job with the atmosphere and story of the game, but DisInherited good probably be a type of game I would easily get bored of playing. Replayability isn't always better since games that are meant to be played once can be more interesting if done right at least for me.
@kittycatcrunchie 3 ай бұрын
I totally agree, I genuinely thought he was going out in round one with DW 😭
@kaanDAninja 3 ай бұрын
WHAT❓‼️ this has to be the biggest robbery in yourube contests history aint no way, im sorry but dryden teally REALLY deserved that win its not fair to do a community poll it just turns into a popularity contest, here is the thing both games are good but tbh as a indie horror gamer I’ve grown very tired of them psx1 style horror games with comically large items that arn’t realistic meanwhile drydens game had so much depth, original composed music so much replayability and insane character/map design, the boss were dome so great, so next time leave the devs name out of the poll so its not a popularity contest, WOW BIGGEST ROB EVER DAMN…
@fr0styboy 3 ай бұрын
can't believe the typical cheap jumpscare fest youtube let's play type game was the winner
@marcelburdon9795 3 ай бұрын
Yeah already after the first round I dropped the video, when they choose the generic itch grungy pixelated horror game number 10000 over the prisoner game with a genuinely interesting concept just because it looks pretty, so stupid.
@SJ95111 3 ай бұрын
The submissions should have been anonymous the public. Theres no way Dryden lost
@shinsha_ 3 ай бұрын
Damn i really thought other one would win...
@ohurspecial5404 3 ай бұрын
I knew as soon as they put it to the community he was fucked. Lixian is good but he has also got clout
@finn6492 3 ай бұрын
The game that won seems much more visually appealing off first glance. Dryden's game seems like it needs to be experienced to see its value. definitely seemed like the better game after a 20 minute video, don't know what the community got to vote off though.
@shadowhunter2 3 ай бұрын
]@@ohurspecial5404 how do you even know that their name is even on it. So clout shouldn't matter
@RubenBunskoeke 3 ай бұрын
@@finn6492 Appealing? I found the other game waaaaay more appealing. The winner looked like a Nintendo 64 james bond game.
@ohurspecial5404 3 ай бұрын
@@shadowhunter2 did they say that?
@Sl1mb 3 ай бұрын
Dryden did it the best. A polished and creative game you won't see on SteamDB worst releases list.
@jacqui5309 2 ай бұрын
Keep doing this series, you've struck gold for a series that's bingeable, tells a story and even lets us learn more about game dev!
@bivouac__ 3 ай бұрын
I AM SORRY but Dryden deserved to win, Lixian made generic ps1 aesthetic horror game with 3 (?) enemies, I am surprised judges chose this
@richardcheung3232 3 ай бұрын
Solid theme, solid horror, not boring, not confusing, well polished. It wasn't the most creative, but it was the most solid
@donniewhat 3 ай бұрын
@@richardcheung3232what do you feel dryden’s lacked in comparison?
@richardcheung3232 3 ай бұрын
@@donniewhat Drydens game was really good but it was unfinished so it felt unsatisfying to complete, lixians game was simple and fully complete
@sirrah2458 3 ай бұрын
@@richardcheung3232 it didn't even have a map, can you explain how it was fully complete? I liked it a lot, but that claim seems egregious to me.
@richardcheung3232 3 ай бұрын
@@sirrah2458 As in it had an ending, drydens game didn't
@abdelel8913 3 ай бұрын
JUSTICE FOR DRYDEN
@Gutballeee-ni5vp 2 ай бұрын
The fact that Drydens absolute masterpiece of game didnt win is such a crime. His game wouldve been the clear favorite even with the contestants from last game dev competition. Are you kidding me
@pheartehgrimace 3 ай бұрын
That is wild - the fps was literally every generic horror game. Disinherited put so much work into the theme and built lore to support it. Y'all just voted for asset shark jumpscares... I do not mean to be rude or hateful but I think the infection game wasn't worth a 10k prize....
@jpretorius5155 3 ай бұрын
I want to buy Dryden's game and play it on my switch for a couple of hours or days!
@SHXDES0115 3 ай бұрын
Dryden is incredibly talented and it shows every single time. Big fan
@thonktank1239 3 ай бұрын
Love how the theme was basically the rennaisance version of "Yolo dude" and everyone went like "okay, let's make something about life sucking"
@facelessanon 3 ай бұрын
Everyone wishes that Dryden won, and I was rooting for him from the very beginning. In my personal opinion, Airidas implemented the memento mori theme the best and deserved to win. The game had very high potential. Next to him, I was rooting for Lixian, not because I was biased (I never watched his videos before), but because I genuinely like the atmosphere of his game, and the Chaos implementation was 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Not to discredit Dryden once again, he made an awesome game and I also love his indie game vibe. If I could buy only one game from these devs, it would be Dryden's.
@bigmistqke 3 ай бұрын
Did not expect that ending. Thought dryden was obvious winner.
@LethalDamageGaming 3 ай бұрын
dryden has been a real fresh of breath air, also that chess game as well, he got real talent and polish when most of the other people had games that looked janky af. lixians game also looked polished enough, world and animations of the shark was cool, combat kinda jank. nice vid, more of these
@glerapyglapman4411 3 ай бұрын
Dryden’s game should’ve won imo. I’m glad he decided to continue development on Disinherited. I’m interested in it and anything he does in the future
@GAMEROFMILLENIUM 3 ай бұрын
Monleaf studios had so much potential. I would love to see him create more and release it on steam.
@AutisticJesusGaming 3 ай бұрын
Yo wth Dryden better get compensated for this.
@steampunkWizardStudios 3 ай бұрын
NGL im kinda fed up with blackthornprod's implementation of these contests, especially after the community upset.
@hanspeter731 2 ай бұрын
For real tho... idk how they do it but they manage to fumble the bag with every video somehow.
@aBennu 2 ай бұрын
The fact that another generic ragdoll game made it out of round one blows my mind
@Siggy 2 ай бұрын
@@aBennu seriously. it was so insanely bland. once you do every task... whats next? nothing.
@DefaultFlame 2 ай бұрын
@@hanspeter731 Not every one I'd say, but it's something like half.
@AM-jx3zf 3 ай бұрын
first round was exceptionally better than previous vids.. and dryden, dude, what a POG game
@egorthehawk4824 2 ай бұрын
Drydens game was really unique! I love the style and the idea, it developed into something awesome. Really hope it goes far!
@orangeblanket7181 3 ай бұрын
it was literally just a popularity contest then? Lixian's game seemed like something i would play once then be lost in my library. not much depth , while Dryden 's game seems like something i could sink hundreds of hours into while looking for lore (lore that i feel like is better than Lixian's game lore) but because of the community of game devs which know Lixian as the cool Markiplier editor (which he is, but that should NOT decide who wins) voted for him, his, simple horror game won? #JusticeForDryden
@akin4484 Ай бұрын
"a story based game with scripted elements is something id play through once, while a roguelike explicitly made for replayability is something id play multiple times" isnt really a defense for Drydens being better
@TheLTak3r 23 күн бұрын
@@akin4484 i mean...
@yourlocaldisappointment9362 23 күн бұрын
@@akin4484 thats the point no? if op thinks roguelite games are better than story-based ones, itd be *their* defense that dryden is better for them
@akin4484 21 күн бұрын
@@yourlocaldisappointment9362 he didnt say "i personally think this is better for me" he said "this game is better because it has more replayability so it shouldve won and the only possible reason it didnt is because the guy is less popular"
@belzedk 3 ай бұрын
How did Dryden not win??? his game blew all the others out of the water. Also Airidas should definitely have moved on from the first round.
@xyzabc198 3 ай бұрын
Because it was a popularity contest, people know Lixen they don't know Dryden...
@einfangirl2351 3 ай бұрын
lixeon is the editor of markiplier so ofc he wins the popularity contest
@nickeno Ай бұрын
Honestly, Dryden's game should've won by a mile. It had such polish, depth, and a great gameplay loop, which is interesting and has real variety and playstyles. Try changing your playstyle with a pistol or a shotgun.
@JACK-yy3xm Ай бұрын
The fact that Dryden didn’t win is insane they both were great but it wasn’t even close Drydens was insanely good
@InfinityBladeRecollection 3 ай бұрын
Community vote is not a good idea. Drydens game was just better. Community just saw the cool visuals of the horror game and voted. Not to say the horror game was bad but disinherited has so much more depth
@sirsapphire3499 3 ай бұрын
That's not even the main problem with the community thing. Because they showed the names of the devs instead of just the games, Lixian was swinging with the power of millions of fans and working for Markiplier, Dryden has a few thousand subs. It legitimately stole the credibility of the vote and handed the win to the clearly not as finished or quality game.
@TheRealKwisty 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, this series is the main reason I subbed to this channel, the amount of wonderful games that are being made while shouting out these amazing devs and their own projects, I've found so many games from different devs through this channel, hoping to see more of this content! :D
@LEGnewTube 3 ай бұрын
Really surprised Dryden didn’t win as well. The other game seemed like a super generic horror game to me.
@shuyuyummy3924 2 ай бұрын
Ngl, as soon as I saw the prompt I was thinking about lobsters. Like a game with a lobster bargining to be immortal (aka, why lobsters cannot die from old age)
@Schoritzobandit 3 ай бұрын
Dryden's was so obviously the better, more interesting, better themed, more fleshed out game. No disrespect to anyone else, honestly this was the most compelling set of games in any of these videos, Dryden was just insane. Sucks that it sounds like the community vote came down to the creator with the bigger youtube community.
@michaelhooper1717 3 ай бұрын
This turned me off from this channel. I don't think I can look at these videos the same after that atrocity in the voting.
@MallowMaranta 3 ай бұрын
@@michaelhooper1717 bro i was annoyed at there first pass the game videos, they some how always find a way to mess it up every time. not to mention the mrbeast style clickbait and constant promotion. doesnt stop me from watching these tho lol
@jaysolo8256 3 ай бұрын
I love the cuphead style boss fights. Dryden was robbed 😔
@Gunnin_yadown 2 ай бұрын
His creativity is through the roof, he was robbed man.
@MerlinSpace 3 ай бұрын
i dont - what? that doesnt seem right. and why did lemon vote for the horror game? im so confused
@SophisticatedHermit 2 ай бұрын
"BTP not screwing up in the most obvious way imaginable" challenge level: impossible.
@what3verfloatsurgoat391 2 ай бұрын
I really wanted to see more of the game with prisoners that have to die in order to advance. There could be some really interesting puzzles to solve with that concept, and open up a sort of contest element with it in the vein of “who can complete this game with the fewest deaths” like the fewest portals used in portal runs
@xyzabc198 3 ай бұрын
Having a 16 year old compete with all these dev's that have years of experience is a bit rough. I think it would be nice if you maybe did a "Young dev" competition, where you stick a bunch of under 21 or under 18 year olds together
@meepswag35 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, the dude is def skilled, and he has fun edits, but yeah having school is rough
@No_Nipz 3 ай бұрын
I agree with the idea, but thers also alot of devs who start later in life. Maybe a comp where people with 1 to 2 years of game dev and hten one where its people with 3+ years of game dev
@xyzabc198 3 ай бұрын
@@No_Nipz That would be very difficult to actually vet though...
@rebelmage6929 3 ай бұрын
@@meepswag35 I mean, adults have jobs and a household to take care of, so I don't think adults have more free time. I think it's more a matter of hobbyist vs full time independent game dev.
@MDG-mykys 3 ай бұрын
Having anything to do with under 16 or even under 18 years olds is risky
@lucasjbond 3 ай бұрын
I hope Dryden puts out devlogs or something for his game! Lixian's game looked great, but I wonder what would've happened if it was anonymous. Dryden's game seemed to fit way more with the theme! Keep up these videos though. They're super fun to watch!
@SuperMentalkids 3 ай бұрын
Dryden made a binding of Isaac level game. Absolutely robbed.
@Metaldude-th1rte3n 3 ай бұрын
These devs keep cooking god tier content for the amount of time they have
@sirsapphire3499 3 ай бұрын
No disrespect to Lixian, but he got a gimme +2 for having more than a million fans compared to a few thousand. Dryden got completely robbed and if the community vote hadn't been a popularity contest that +2 would not have saved Lixian's frankly unpolished and unfinished game compared to a basically 90% complete roguelite with *way* more passion, effort, and replayability. That was a complete steal for someone with millions of fans, especually being associated with Markiplier, and as others have mentioned the theme stacked in his favor because memento mori was the theme behing Markiplier's now deleted channel Unus Annus.
@quez900_4 18 күн бұрын
I agree with you so much!!!
@KhroMcKrakken 3 ай бұрын
You guys should really consider making voting anonymous for the devs especially if you're going to include the community, and I think the rest the comments explain why. Lixian has been seen by TENS OF MILLIONS of people through Markiplier. He is a recognizable creator just through that alone. So if you're allowing to put the community to put in not one, but two votes, there is a HUGE chance of community bias. It would also be more fair for Lixian because then he would be judged for his dev chops alone. That said, I absolutely ADORE Lixian as a person, as an editor, and as a developer. I would love to see more of him on here. I cheered seeing him. He's hilarious and he did hold his own. But I don't think the voting was entirely fair.
@KhroMcKrakken 3 ай бұрын
I came back to see if there was a response to this. Looking into the comments, it seems the community poll was anonymous although one commenter claims Lixian's name was in the zip file. Going forward, I think it needs to be stated in the video that community votes are anonymous, and make sure that the creators names are nowhere to be found in the file or in the game.
@mahdialom2346 2 ай бұрын
@@KhroMcKrakkenLixian had his name in the credits of the game, so all testers knew it was his game
@Kephazard 2 ай бұрын
I love Lixian and while his game appeals more to me and my tastes, Dryden absolutely nailed the theme. He adapted the twists seemlessly into the game in ways that enrichened the story and influenced gameplay mechanics. That really should have been a landslide victory. While I'm more interested in playing Lixian's game, it is ultimately a Resident Evil clone with a unique infection system. I'd advise decreasing the weight of your voters, or tallying them separately. As it stands, they have a hefty 29% weight that ends up putting too much stock into favoritism over academic judging. I feel like Lixian's popularity carried him to victory.
@henrychan4634 13 күн бұрын
I think a lot of people say dryden's game won because they appreciate the effort put into it, but overall it's the experience of the player in the moment that is the most important, I think the final result was understandable given the impression lixian's game had on the judges.
@RaikiDas 3 ай бұрын
Completely robbed. I usually love watching these videos but lixians game wasn’t even close to Dryden. Dryden has everything you want in a game, a story, actual working game play, cool item mechanics, and more. There was also some other questionable eliminations that made no sense, where you have some better games and the other still incomplete games made it through complete bs
@michaelhooper1717 3 ай бұрын
I was baffled by the vote ultimately coming down to a popularity contest. Really shameful behavior
@Nyghtking 3 ай бұрын
Personally it feels like Dryden should have won, while I was curious to see where Lixian was going to take his game Dryden had the more complete experience and his game felt like it stuck to the theme better. Both are good, but Dryden's felt better.
@Babynboii99 2 ай бұрын
Lixian's game was amazing but ultimately Dryden's Game was much more polished and felt like a fully released game. Props to everyone as its clear that all the devs put in a lot of time into their games!
@TuxedoLeo 2 ай бұрын
Lixian Game Pros: Good theme, good jump scares, decent lore/backstory, shark area was goated Lixian Cons: No replayability, little enemy variety, very straightforward, little weapon variety, no inventory system/ poor UI Dryden Pros: Original music that fits game, huge replayability, boss fights, good lore/backstory, good shop and item system, fits the theme the best BY FAR, Dryden Cons: random map gen sometimes made areas inaccessible, pretend I wrote something else here because I can only think of one con... it baffles me that Dryden lost this (Edit: spelling and formatting fix)
@dunbarconnor 2 ай бұрын
He later added the ability to climb walls so you didn’t get stuck anymore so that’s the con fixed 🤣
@meepswag35 3 ай бұрын
I thought Drydens was way better, in all honesty lixians was my least favorite concept of the last 4
@ResolutionVisuals 3 ай бұрын
The suits are so off brand 😂 such a disconnect
@evanhoodini5808 3 ай бұрын
this is what I was unknowingly thinking all along
@Dipshizzle 3 ай бұрын
It feels like their wardrobe was inspired by Columbian drug dealers turned legit.
@spicypeachdev 2 ай бұрын
thought I was the only one confused by the suits lmao
@CHA0SBLEEDS 2 ай бұрын
I feel like Dryden should have won. It's by far the most thought out game. As soon as I saw it, I wanted to play it. So i'm glad he'll continue it. That said I did also like Lixian's game it was my second pick, but I'd never actually play his game or want to play his game.
@DemonKing19951 3 ай бұрын
Dyden may not have won the competition, but he's 100% won game sales. That looks quite fun.
@Basjuh1984 3 ай бұрын
How is this even possible?! Why I really appreciate the hard work and creativity of everyone, how is it possible that a very generic, unfinished, half-random, “horror” FPS with a very minimal relation to the contests objective can win from a game that looks almost finished and quite unique? While everyone can have their opinion and favorite of course, I find this very difficult to understand.
@sirsapphire3499 3 ай бұрын
The community vote destroyed the fairness by making it a popularity contest. Lixian is known by millions and Dryden has only a few thousand fans. He was robbed by the vote because it wasn't anonymous.
@peachtime 3 ай бұрын
Ok guys! Lets do a community vote: our contestants are... -markipliers editoe -over a milion subs And.. -a dude -2k subs Very thought out
@sirsapphire3499 3 ай бұрын
All they had to do was not associate a name to each game and the community would 100% have voted for the other one. That's all they had to do but sadly they didn't
@Daniel2374 3 ай бұрын
@@sirsapphire3499doesnt matter, the guy can ask for votes on his platforms. The way to go is no democracy.
@michaelhooper1717 3 ай бұрын
This was the dumbest twist I could have seen. No oversight and a really underdeveloped concept. Before throwing big amounts of money that would genuinely be life changing for a small developer there needs to be more serious steps taking to create a fair environment for competition based on game development and not a popularity contest
@andrewpiltenko9432 2 ай бұрын
I liked Lixian game's visual style from the very beginning and it's a cool game, but c'mon, Dryden's game was much more complete, polished, thematically consistent and fun to play. I was sure he was gonna win.
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