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Dell OptiPlex i5 & i7 CPU Showdown 2nd, 3rd & 4th Gen
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Күн бұрынIn this video I'm gonna be comparing the best locked i5's and i7's from the 2nd, 3rd and 4th gen Intel Core series CPU's to see how the fare from one generation to the other. We're looking at bottleneck testing as well as performance figures across six CPU's and seven GPU's. This is gonna' be a long one, so don't forget to use the timestamps. Just remember that the usage and performance figures go hand in hand.
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Timestamps...
0:00 - Start
0:35 - Hardware
1:32 - Testing Methodology/Games
4:45 - Cinebench R20/Heaven Figures
6:48 - Bottleneck Testing
8:20 - Radeon RX 570
10:34 - Radeon RX 580
11:54 - GTX 1060 6GB
13:07 - GTX 1650 Super
14:04 - GTX 1070
17:05 - GTX 1080
19:31 - GTX 1080 Ti
21:37 - 1440p/4k Results
23:33 - Elaborating On Bottlenecks
25:41 - Counterstrike GO
27:55 - Doom
29:09 - Far Cry 5
30:58 - Battlefield V
33:04 - Battlefront
34:14 - Modern Warfare
36:07 - Conclusions
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@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
So.... after months of work, it's finally here. What did you think? Do you know think there's more than a marginal difference between the 2nd, 3rd and 4th gen CPU's? Or do you think I still got it wrong?
@tigerhead85 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the effort and work put in. Very useful for budget gamers like myself to make the best price-to-performance decisions. While there's a marginal difference for 3rd and 4th gen in the US, there's a massive increase in price (like $30-40 USD difference for 3rd and 4th gen) in my country. So in my case, it's worth settling on 3rd gen i7 instead of paying a premium for a marginal increase if I go for a 4th gen.
@jimpyle99 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work! Looks like the 1070 or 1650 super offers the best value proposition depending on the price/power considerations. Thanks for taking the time to figure this out.
@myamaha62 4 жыл бұрын
Would have been nice to see RE2 remake, gears 5, or tomb raider. Harder on the CPU.
@SimbaSeven. 4 жыл бұрын
If you're building a SFF build, the 9010 with an i7-3770 is your best bet with a LP GTX 1650. I don't know why they moved the slot in the 9020.
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
@@tigerhead85 Absolutely, I keep forgetting that people outside the U.S. watch my videos. I'm gonna' put a big post it note to remind me next time I have to talk about price.
@dennisdales7504 3 жыл бұрын
It was based on your painstaking work that I was able to transform my Opti 9020 into an incredible gaming machine. I'm a poor person who is clinically deaf. So your advice was amazing.
@TheGameBench 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad that I could help you out. That's really why I make videos. By the way, how were the automatic subtitles? I've been wondering if I need to take the time to do the manual ones, or if they were doing a good enough job.
@mrkemblegilstrap 2 жыл бұрын
hi! what kind of stuff did you end up doing to your machine? have you done any testing? either, benchmark or FPS? the only game I have is MOH. so, it's kind of tough to compare these stats with mine. I have Dell, also. I have a 7010 MT. on Cinebench I scored a 2,989. my MOH rarely drops below 90 FPS. I have an i7 2600 with a gtx 745 4gb GPU and an SSD, 16 G ram.
@ghabby7889 Жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench which is best for gaming i7 3rd gen and i5 4th gen
@swinoob616 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Respect for your massive work! Great content, I'm happy to see these old cpu are still very capable for gaming =)
@1cj 4 жыл бұрын
Best part is, with more and more 4k monitors rolling out and games that support them, games will hopefully become more efficient so we get higher FPS :)
@mrepicbruh2839 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Ive been waiting a long time for this video! Im loving the dell optiplex videos!
@ompiegames6578 4 жыл бұрын
MrEpicBruh bruh
@BK_dadon 4 жыл бұрын
Your profile needs to chill
@ompiegames6578 4 жыл бұрын
@@BK_dadon why
@Jonny2Bravo 4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding work! This video takes a lot of guesswork out of some hardware choices which is exactly what I needed for a budget build for my brother. Very insightful. Thank you.
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you found it useful.
@ScullyBrewing 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the i5 4690 in the old 9020's we have in work might bottleneck an rx 580, thankfully this video exists to prove otherwise.
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
And, if you optimized the settings, you could even get a little more headroom on the CPU.
@carlospulido6224 4 жыл бұрын
I came for the recommendation of Yt, and stayed because of outstanding quality. Definitely a more useful information about used pre-built systems as economical as possible for playing games on it.
@luke2v52 4 жыл бұрын
Finally! I love these budget optiplex videos. They just have so much more creativity than buying high end items and mashing them together. I would like to see your opinions on some competition to the optiplex 3020 7020 and 9020 like maybe other optiplexes or hp z200s would be good but the pros and cons as well as like a summary of why you still prefer or would recommend them as alternatives compared to the 3020 7020 and 9020. Additionally you could talk about some of the issues associated with upgrading these optiplexes like when switching to a more modern case there are many issues created like errors and dells unique connectors creating issues with front panel ports. I have found workarounds for those but maybe you would find a better solution than me.
@paulhillbeats 3 жыл бұрын
The case doesn’t matter though, you don’t buy the system for its looks, and besides, even if you do get a case with a side panel, that green motherboard and the ketchup and mustard cables aren’t pretty
@luke2v52 3 жыл бұрын
Luke Oess I am talking upgrades because unless you are planning on using the same computer forever or just transitioning to a new computer, then you will want to upgrade the case and power supply to remove ketchup mustard cables.
@kostasbezaitis2695 4 жыл бұрын
The number of people looking for this exact video is HUGE! These generations of CPU's are in the sweet spot of the used market and a cumulative video like this one is pure gold. Big props for the time and energy spent making this one.
@michaelilie1629 4 жыл бұрын
Bro how do you pull off that “yondu from guardians of the galaxy” look? Its honesty epic!!!
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Haha! Thanks! It actually happened by accident. I was tired of getting a haircut every three weeks, so I decided to trim the sides and back myself between cuts, and I ended up going way too short... there was only one what to make it work, and I ended up with this and decided I really liked the look and stuck with it. And I'll take the Yondu refrence... dude was a bad ass.
@JosePineda-jn8jk 3 жыл бұрын
The Game Bench gonna get the fin for a Halloween video? Maybe 🤷🏽♂️ lol
@user-uq3um5nq7d 3 жыл бұрын
Caravan Palace? Ayy
@michaelilie1629 3 жыл бұрын
Drew Senna you know it fam!! Fav song?
@harrybarry4158 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man, now I can't unsee that
@bitrage. 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see quality professional content from a smaller channel. Keep up the great work!👍
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@Xenon777_ 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting the effort in and making this in-depth video! I have about 7 old Optiplexes and they are excellent machines. One of the 3010s I have has an i5 3470 running 24/7 and it runs the CCTV software for the house.
@VirmanaMarketing 4 жыл бұрын
These tests make me happy I chose a 4790 paired up with an RX 580... it is just a great combo and is doing a great job... thank you for the great advic
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that 580 is hard to beat. Especially when it's only around $100.
@hp5469 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench , where are you finding 580's for 100$ ??
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
@@hp5469 Right now... nowhere. But about two or so weeks ago... they were.
@hp5469 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench , wow that was a steal. Cant even get a 570 for that low. For that low I would consider one. But at the current prices i like team greens 1600's low power consumption cards.
@goodlookinghonkey8382 4 жыл бұрын
Are you using the rx570 on oem power supply?
@jasonk4099 Жыл бұрын
Found 3 990's for $20 each and I'm super excited to refurbish them! This was really helpful for choosing which gpus to pair with them
@thelowprofile9767 8 ай бұрын
Just found this channel today just because I searched for reviews on Intel Core i7-4790 as I was able to buy a working Dell 3847 for $15. This video is excellent.
@MrRiley-Is-Not-Amused 4 жыл бұрын
I litterally just bought TWO 990 Optiplex towers for $75 a piece. Both are i5 2500 Sandy Bridge/4GB Ram/500GB HDD. Throw in a $150 GPU (and another 4GB of Ram and 240GB SSD) and it's a simple and effective 1080/med-hi settings gaming PC. For Christ sake, I'm talking about a SECOND GEN CPU that is STILL capable of 1080p gaming in 2020... $280 total cost (already had monitor/Keyboard/mouse) It's a no-brainer. Optiplex be da bomb-diggidy!
@tylerdouglas8565 2 жыл бұрын
Man you deserve way more subs. Quality content and apparent hard work and time you put into your testing. I appreciate you friend.
@hassana8373 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. I didn't expect the 4th gen i5 to perform better than the 3rd gen i7 in some cases. Thanks a lot for this comparison! The effort you put into it really shows :)
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah... same here. It was quite a surprise. And thanks for watching!
@virtualtools_3021 4 жыл бұрын
Does the 4th gen have AVX or something that 3rd doesnt?
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
@@virtualtools_3021 Well, the 2nd and 3rd gen are AVX while the 4th gen is AVX2. However, there are other factors. There are generational improvements in instructions per cycle and increased clock speeds.
@virtualtools_3021 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench Thanks!
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
@@virtualtools_3021 No problem.
@IronicTonic8 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, I really appreciate the time you put into this. Keep em coming!
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@renebibibi9283 Жыл бұрын
great work! end of 2022 only fastest i7 Haswell still deliver proper on 1060/1660 GPU class. all i5 and older gen i7 sub 3,4ghz didnt age too well now.
@thedandyp 4 жыл бұрын
Fair play, that must have been a heck of a lot of work put into this video. It seems to reinforce the belief that most of the (higher clocked) older quad-cores are still good for cards around the 570/580/1060 range, even in 2020. Excellent work!
@looweegee252 4 жыл бұрын
Be wary as 480 and 470 Won't work
@virtualtools_3021 4 жыл бұрын
@@looweegee252 why not?
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
@Red Stoner He's wrong, they do work. I've installed several 470's and 480's in these OptiPlex's and they work fine.
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I really appreciate it. Really makes all that work worth it reading comments like this.
@virtualtools_3021 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench Thanks for the feedback, i figured there was no reason they wouldn't work.
@pwn3426 3 жыл бұрын
Incredibly useful and appreciated more than you know information. This will help me tremendously in building a low buck big punch gaming pc for my friends son. I was thinking the rx 570 would be max for his i5-3570 dell but think ill go with the rx 580 now that I know it will fully utilize its power.
@TheGameBench 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, 580 is a great choice with the i5. Glad I could help.
@jocelynbiologicalage4893 3 жыл бұрын
My main PC is i7 4770 + rtx 2060 + 16 gb 1600 mhz And i also have 2 HP that i modded to gaming PC @ 4th gen (i5 4590) and old 775 with the legendary q9650 for testing recent games with old hardware with Windows 10 and XP (dual-boot) for some retro-gaming. Found this video very informative and you have a rigorous methodology to test and compare 2th vs 3th vs 4th CPU and, on top, with different GPU...! So, you were systemic in your approach at 360 degree :) All in all, informative to me because i was wandering at how and i7 4th gen still perform with modern games and the gain over 3th and 2th gen i7. (i5 comparaison was a bonus) Excellent work and thanks :) Salutations du Québec.
@TheGameBench 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching. Comments like this make all that work worth it.
@sravans5100 4 жыл бұрын
Man , you look like a cool hackerdude Love your hairstyle and way of explanation!
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
@santospoland Жыл бұрын
Your videos are EXCELLENT! You really do your homework. Thank you very much for sharing all your findings. I can't appreciate your efforts enough.
@JohnMushitu Жыл бұрын
Just discovered this channel. I can't stress enough how helpful and informative it is.
@rrwoodyt 4 жыл бұрын
That was a huge amount of effort on your part. Thanks!
@firas7229 3 жыл бұрын
Thanx man That was the best ever video I seen that given realistic idea about cpus in gaming. Thank you a lot bro .
@TheGameBench 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you found it helpful.
@Warren_L. 4 жыл бұрын
It may have taken you a month to put all this together, but I think it's going to take me a month to take it all in! Thanks for an incredibly comprehensive and detailed analysis.
@goldenbillz6390 4 жыл бұрын
*See, now I get it. Everytime I saw 3010, 3020, 9010, 9020, 390, 790, & 990... I got confused. I questioned myself why'd they all have different numbers. And now I see that it's because of the CPU. Thanks man!*
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
No problem. I also have a video that's actually a buyers guide that goes into a little more detail.
@kokiangelov1271 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, you're a legend. gtx 1080 and i7 6700 combo here..
@jalapenopoggers8310 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this, my main pc right now has a 3770 and been thinking about going for a 580, now I'm pretty sure of it. Love your budget oriented videos in particular great work
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you found this useful. And yeah... that 580 is pretty hard to argue with.
@tomloeper8933 4 жыл бұрын
I run a 3770 and RX 580 8GB combo and it is great.
@Elenwood3 4 жыл бұрын
can anyone link me to any cheap 3770s being sold?
@jalapenopoggers8310 4 жыл бұрын
@@Elenwood3 I'm not sure right now, I got mine for like $80 and was the cheapest I could find at the time. Honestly I wouldn't pay more than that
@NexEterna 4 жыл бұрын
@@Elenwood3 If you flash bios to at least A11, go for an E3-1240v2. No integrated graphics but the performance difference between that and the 3770 is between 1-2%. Can pick one up for $50/60
@dennisdales7504 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I was interested in this because I bought an Optiplex 9020 with a fourth gen i5 which came with a new SSD and upgraded it with an inexpensive GTX 1650 OC. It's interesting to see that the fourth gen i5 actually outpaces the third gen i7 in a lot of benchmarks. Your videos have been invaluable with this project going forward to get back into PC gaming. The Optiplex I bought works much better than I expected in games. I have been so far pleasantly surprised and the whole project came in at under $500 CDN with the video card. Thanks!
@tharnos767 4 жыл бұрын
Respect for the work you put in this video. Highly informative!
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate it!
@Mister_Tedious 4 жыл бұрын
This just further confirms that a gtx 1070 is going in my 7020 i7 4790 :) thanks for all the hard work man ✊
@Mister_Tedious 4 жыл бұрын
...Also actually, any advice on ram upgrades for the 7020? Is the speed of the ram limited by or relevant to the motherboard at all? Is it best to buy the fastest?
@tt_aous560_ly2 4 жыл бұрын
To the dell motherboard ram goes to maximum 1600mhz and 16gb .. Get what compatible to your motherboard...
@Mister_Tedious 4 жыл бұрын
@@tt_aous560_ly2 I've read elsewhere that they'll actually use 32gb, & that dell only ever said 16gb in the manual basically to make people buy the next model above to get the 32gb version. I wishI could remember where I saw it but ive been down such a rabbit hole since discovering these optiplexes lol.
@virtualtools_3021 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mister_Tedious 32GB is likely to work
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
The 7020 can go up to 32GB @ 1600MHz. You might be able to use Intel's Extreme Tuning Utility to overclock it, but a lot of people say that 1600MHz is the sweet spot and that you won't see much of a difference. I would like to test that.
@garebear2499 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see I’m not the only one who hates motion blur and film grains
@sachintharukshan1 4 жыл бұрын
Very recently I found your channel and I got instantly hooked , much respect for your effort and the information you put out in to this videos
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Much appreciated.
@ArielJerseyJr 4 жыл бұрын
I have such a big respect to the effort you have done to make this video. Definitely gonna subscribe to this channel.
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@theHardwareBench Жыл бұрын
Results were pretty much what I expected, I’ve benched and overclocker all these series of cpus
@dandenton2438 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos...I still am repping the Alienware Alpha R1 with an i7 4765t with 16 gigs of ram. And I must say it's still an awesome computer this day and can play videos games pretty damn well. I upgraded for nostalgia factor over my phenom 2 1045t and it puts it to shame....
@glowy9452 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is so underrated and deserves way more credit than this. I am kind of mad, yet be implements so much time, effort, and extremely good thoughts into his videos. He helped me out a lot and he earned a sub. I am thankful for this guy.
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I really appreciate that.
@nielb 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the most informative, honest and objective videos that I have viewed in recent time. It’s refreshing after having attempting to source info on my required upgrades during the past two days. Yours is the first of any use to me. As a noob, I get lost in some of the technical stuff, but have built a basic understanding of some of it. Now that I've subscribed I will continue to view your efforts. Please keep it up.
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. Will do.
@liftedmike7415 4 жыл бұрын
absolutely amazing video edititing!! and also solid information!! keep it up!!
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@bertramlefarge69 3 жыл бұрын
Phew! just bought a 9020 SFF i5-4670, watched this through the cracks in my fingers....even though the Opti is being used as a headless music server lol!
@PaulLemars01 4 жыл бұрын
What you are doing is really useful. I'm not part of the Optiplex community. I run an HP Z420 with a Xeon E5-1650 which I now find out from this video is considered desktop gen 3 because it's Ivy Bridge-EP. I'm currently running an RX580 8GB and the takeway I got from this is that probably the best GPU for my machine right now is a GTX 1070ti. Yes, it will happily run a 1080ti but from a budget consideration the 1070ti makes more sense because they're going for around $270 on eBay right now. Thank you for your meticulous effort. It's really appreciated.
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I really want to pickup a Z series workstation to mess around with since the xx40 series OptiPlex's aren't worth the time. Once I exhaust the OptiPlex, I feel like the Z series is the way to go with the 6th gen CPU's. The 1070 Ti would right at home that 6/12 thread Xeon. I'd say anything between the 1070 and 1080 is a good bet, and for $270 the 1070 Ti is a good deal.
@PaulLemars01 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench This is a question that weighs on my buying decision and maybe it's the basis of a new video? What effect does running a GPU that's PCIX v4 (like an RTX2060 or an RX5700) in a machine that's PCIX v3 or even PCIX v2. How much of a real world hit does the slot generation have on the performance of the card. If you tested an RTX2060 vs a GTX1060 in a gen 3 motherboard and then a gen 4 motherboard how much of a real world jump in performance would the RTX2060 really have. Another question is what effect on actual real world performance does single channel memory vs dual channel vs quad channel memory have? Finally, most OEM motherboards don't support overclocking but Intel produces the 'Intel Extreme Tuning Utility (IETU)' for certain Intel CPUs that seem to give you de-facto overclocking regardless. The only reason I know about this is that my machine came with a Xeon E5-1650v2 that has a base clock of 3.5Ghz but I have modified it via the IETU to run all 6 cores at 4.2GHz (it's currently ticking over at 3.76Ghz). Cinebench seems to show a significant improvement but could you test this? I'm just poking around in the dark myself. BTW HP Z420 V2 machines are going for around $200 if you look carefully.
@rbo350 3 жыл бұрын
that's a lot of info in a short time, I am now going to watch your buyers guide to see if it makes more sense to me so I can make as much of an informed decision ...thanks for all the hard work and the way you explain things is good
@TheGameBench 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@joekoch8485 4 жыл бұрын
Keep up the Good Work!!
@nahpets2345 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! That was a very hard work and I enjoyed watching, and my i7 4790 on my 3020, is still as powerful as a Ryzen 3 chip. Overall, amazing video about Dell Optiplex gaming PC's. Very interesting results!!! Well done!
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
@nahpets2345 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench you're welcome
@mandelbro777 3 жыл бұрын
great effort Optiplex 9020 and 4th gen i7's have always served me well.
@meemadd6397 4 жыл бұрын
i finally bought my second 9020,i paid more than i should have but ive wanted another one for over a year now. this one came with an i7 4790,16 gigs of 1600 mhz ram, a 240 gig ssd and a 500 hd.
@coolguyvideos599 4 жыл бұрын
How much did you pay?
@chrome1560 4 жыл бұрын
YOU DISERVE ONE BILLION LIKE FOR THE GREAT JOB YOU HAVE DONE HERE. I WONT IMAGINE ALL THE TIME AND HARD JOB IT WILL BE FOR YOU JUST TO GIVE US THE BEST OF THE BEST... I THINK ALL OTHER CHANNEL WHO TALKING ABOUT OPTIPLEX MUST TAKE YOUR WAY. YOUR ARE THE OPTIPLEX GUY... DELL MUST PAY YOU BACK FOR THE GREAT YOU DO. THANK SO SO MUCH...
@justinsealy2272 4 жыл бұрын
Got a Dell 990 for $50 tried a RX 550, that was a bad idea, wish I saved the money for a 570 and a power supply.
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
That's a decent deal. But yeah, the 550 is kinda' a turd. Even the 560 is pretty slow. The jump to the 570 is huge.
@kurtscheuermann93 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench Hi could you tell me if dell optiplex 990 its compatible with i7 3770k, thanks
@TheGameBench 3 жыл бұрын
@@kurtscheuermann93 Unfortunately, no. The chipset supports the 3rd gen CPUs, with a BIOS update... but Dell never release the required update for the x90 series Optis.
@JeffWaynee 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2nd gen 790 MT with an i7 2600, 16 GB RAM and a 1650 Super. I mostly use the system for daily computing and gaming. I know a 4th gen i7 will be faster, but with my 1650 Super I cannot really ever saturate my 2600. 99% of the games I play only utilize up to 60% (and many are WELL below that) of the 2600, and I'm very happy with the performance I get from the system overall. The two SW Battlefront games are the only ones I play that actually push my CPU to the limit, and I can smooth out the gameplay by oddly disabling Shader Cache in the 3D settings of the Nvidia control panel. Very odd fix that I discovered by accident, but it works. So while I fully agree a 4th gen would give me better performance, the bubble I operate my computer and video card in wouldn't really benefit from it. This is why I love old systems, because I'm still getting all I need from a 2011 Dell prebuilt.
@mrkemblegilstrap 2 жыл бұрын
hi! wow! what a video! I'm pretty much a noob in all of this, but with your explanations I think I got a lot out of this vid. I've been a motorhead my whole life and I guess still stuck in the past. I really like these Dell machines. they remind me of when Carburetors were king. these are something someone can actually work on. I love my Dell 7010 MT. who wouldn't? it has a hood latch, built in, from the factory, lol. I can get in there and tinker around. even if I happened to burn the thing to the ground, I'm fairly likely to be able to fix it, I'm not out a bunch of $$$ on it and what I've learned is priceless. you did talk a bit fast for me, but I see you had a lot of information in a short time to give it. good job, son.
@TheGameBench 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you found it helpful. And, my introduction to fixing things was working on cars. If it weren't for some other factors, I might have ended up there instead of computers. Had to get rid of all my "projects" so now it's mostly computers, and when the odd family member doesn't like the mechanic quote. And the Opti certainly does remind me of simpler times as well.
@mrkemblegilstrap 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench hmmm, are you left handed? yeah, a problem with doing business with family and friends is that you have to charge them full price, because your enemies don't do business with you. at the top of my channels home page is a photo from my jurassic Era of a real super bee puttin a real hurt on an Olds. it's the only thing that I have from those days and that photo is lookin pretty rough(like me! cough cough, wheeze, heavy sigh)! a year ago, I had bought a brand new HP SSFF, and nothing but problems with it. plus it was slow as mud. I never got any help with those lying idiots at HP support, so, I smashed it up and threw it in the dumpster(neighbors got a show that day! lol) then I bought an old Dell 7010 off of ebay and I love it. I'm having a blast with this rascal. I really only use it for 2 things. playing Medal of Honor online and posting crappy videos of me doing that. anywho, I run a solid 90 FPS, no problem. I mostly play on the European servers where my ping is 155-180 all the time. those guys are killin me. I got pretty good wifi, 280 Down and 50 Up, didn't help at all. I'm bored and have time on my hands, so I'm gonna mess with about everything, one piece at a time. Cinebenching, FPSing and(maybe!?) learning somethin'. thanks for taking the time to write 👍, kemble (Ober Gilstrap 88). wooohooo!
@mrkemblegilstrap 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench hi! I guess I'm banned from DOOG. well, I lasted longer there, than a lot of other places, lolz
@smoke3571985 4 жыл бұрын
really awsome work!!! this was really helpful just got the i5 4690 with cooler and ram for 65$ and threw into a junk computer i got for 40$ and and threw in a gtx 1060 i got for 150$ with a 500gb ssd for 65$ and bam! 320$ the cpu cooler and ram came from an old hp elite small form factor pc i got on ebay for 65$ then found a pc yesterday for 40$ on letgo had the same cpu socket just a slower cpu so i swapped them out actually had a descent 750 watt psu in it also and a 500gb hd just added the ssd today and it runs great can't overclock the cpu so not sure if ill upgrade the heatsink the temps seem to be a little warm at 60 to 70c but ive got a kracken x42 that may go in it from another computer if it gets any warmer
@claytoncanan 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I'm not too much of a tech guy and I did find it interesting, though some of it just went over my head. Recently I had to purchase a new PC for working at home, and now I'm starting to enjoy PC gaming. Never been much of a gamer before. I purchased the following a Dell OptiPlex 9020: Report Date: Saturday, October 24, 2020 Report Time [hh:mm:ss]: 7:24:21 PM Driver Version: 20.19.15.4835 Operating System: Windows* 10 Pro (10.0.18362) Default Language: English (United States) Physical Memory: 32676 MB Vendor ID: 8086 Device ID: 0412 Device Revision: 06 Video BIOS: 1025.14 Current Resolution: 1920 x 1080 Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz Processor Speed: 3592 MHz Processor Graphics in Use: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600 Shader Version: 5.0 OpenGL* Version: 4.3 OpenCL* Version: 1.2 * Microsoft DirectX* * Runtime Version: 12.0 Hardware-Supported Version: 11.1 and based on your previous video I have purchased the "EVGA GeForce GTX 1650 SC Ultra Gaming GDDR6, 04G-P4-1257-KR, 4GB GDDR6, Dual Fan, Metal Backplate". This should be arriving today. Outside of upgrading the stock PSU is there anything else I should do? Any thoughts? As for gaming I just play Elite Dangerous for now, probably wont do much more than that.
@claytoncanan 3 жыл бұрын
I need to correct my comment...the GPU I purchased was suggested by some else not your self.
@FerrumBellator 4 жыл бұрын
Glad KZfaq suggested this I love watching budget build videos. You also gained a subscriber, good content and good quality video.
@VernardMartin 4 жыл бұрын
Simple an amazing video. The thoroughness of your work is commendable. Very useful.
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@kurtisrinker1202 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome work! This is why my backup gaming rig is a 2600k@4.7 with a 1070. When the 3000 series comes out in going to put my rtx 2080ti in it because at 4k resolution the 2600k still does great!
@ItIsNot1984 4 жыл бұрын
Must've been a crazy amount of work to make this one. Good job! Took a while for gpu's to get powerful enough to see the difference.
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, it took a lot of time.
@akunnonton1367 4 жыл бұрын
Mate, I am stuck with my new Dell Optiplex 5070 sff. It is intended to do CAD Modelling, but I am limited with the GPU option. Dang! I didn’t do my homework well then. I challenge you to transform the SFF to MT video! Dell to Dell, Optiplex to Optiplex!! 😂
@kojack57 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent work. Simple and easy to read graphs and presented at a nice pace. A lot of the "top" tech YTubers could learn a thing or two about pacing and delivery.
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! Thanks for the compliment.
@debashisraykarmakar836 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very, very, veeerryy good video I have ever came across. Great job
@Joe-nb3kt 4 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to me how this man doesn't have more subscribers? Hes like the Beetles of youtube.........back to back hits.
@rathstar 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome work, I can fully believe this took a month. I was surprised not only by i5 4th gen average fps but also the .1% lows, as you often hear that the extrd threads on the the i7 would lead to a smoother performance, so the fact it was still beating the i7 3rd gen was impressive. The i7 3rd gen and the i5 4th gen will be my go to choices, as the i7 4th gen seems to go for silly money as its the top ddr3 chip. For the price (non optiplex) i7 4th gens go for its better to start a ryzen build.
@scorned230 4 жыл бұрын
You worked on this for a while, it shows. Nice video and well done.
@jacobchizek1300 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this. I appreciate your work.
@TheGameBench 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching it.
@kdzenins 4 жыл бұрын
This was a great comparison, these optiplexs are great for budget builds. I bought a 7010 mt with i5 3470 and 4gigs ram and 500gb hard drive for 85€, bought new 500w psu for 30€, another 12gb drr3 1600mhz for 40€, evga 1060 6gb sc used for 105€ all together 260€, and I am more than happy with it, sure later I will need to invest in a ssd.
@cl2829 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! looking for a cheap build as a gift for my nephew, this helped a lot
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@robertthaiya906 4 жыл бұрын
I saw an auction for the HP core i7 2600 and decided to bid for it after watching this video. The RX 570 looks like the best choice and playing games in a mixture of high and medium will go a long way for a while. Thanks for the very informative video and subscribed to your channel.
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you found it helpful.
@dadgamer6717 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great analysis! Have a sub! Came here from Hoosier hardware and glad I did! I would have done a smaller matrix eg budget GPU, mid range and top range. But this encourages me to have my first gen xeons and 2nd gen i7s. As consoles use very low speed 8 cores so hopefully engines will keep using more cores. But yeah.. i5s looking worse than old i7s! Fascinating! :)
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! With this new round of consoles, I can see cores being more of an issue going forward, but I think these quad core i5's still have a couple of years left in them.
@cm6gaming259 4 жыл бұрын
Literally exactly what I needed. Do it again with more CPUs and GPUs
@zellar1 4 жыл бұрын
GREAT Video!!! Thank you for this video as I am always touting the use of Dell's upgrading to actual PC gaming use and Streaming PC's. I have refurbed 2 Dell's for the use in game streaming and they are working brilliantly!! My point is you really don't need a $2000 PC to game and stream. Those PC's are great if you have the cash for the PC Master Race but in real time usage....NOPE!!! Keep the great refurb video's coming!! I really liked the part when you said to shutoff "Blur" and "Film Grain"...good point!! Thank you
@eyakko4545 4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie you have the best optiplex fitted for gaming videos out there. You earned a subscriber!
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I really appreciate it.
@ericgingue9493 4 жыл бұрын
Good sir, this needs more views. This helped me so much with my optiplex build for my brother
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you're finding these videos useful.
@BarJosX 4 жыл бұрын
Don't have a Optiplex. But love your content about it. Keep up the great work
@mintagenart Жыл бұрын
Very useful. I have an old 2nd gen i5 Optiplex laying around not doing anything. Have plans to put in a GTX 1060 I found at an great price and perhaps use it for gaming. Nice to know it can actually use upgrades like that.
@Balkanboibg 2 жыл бұрын
I can finally prove to my friend that my i5 2500 won't bottleneck an rx 570/580, Also great vid.
@TheGameBench 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it really helps that they don't have the driver overhead of the Nvidia GPU's. Glad I could help.
@AllThingsDigitalNow 4 жыл бұрын
First time I see your channel. What a nice and thorough analysis. Great job!
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I really appreciate it.
@markmarlow5879 4 жыл бұрын
Really respect the work you put in man great video really informative thanks much appreciated
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I really appreciate it.
@shadowlaw809 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!!
@WTBMrGrey 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing all this. It was a very interesting and useful watch.
@noahbrewer625 4 жыл бұрын
Optiplex series by far my favorite
@juliocaravantes2869 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for such an amazing guide... solve all mi doubts
@TheGameBench 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. I'm glad I could help.
@maciejszajnicki4479 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, tons of work put in, respect! Now, I am not an optiplex person but I like my old Intels in 2020. Here comes the question: The rigs are: 1. i7 4790k@ 4.6GHz, gtx 1080, 32 Gb 1866 ram, 4k 60 Hz screen, game played is excellently optimised World of Tanks (WOT) 2. i7 3770K @ 4.6GHz, gtx 1070, 16Gb 2133 ram, 1080p 60 Hz screen, all new(ish) titles played 3. i5 4570, rx 470 4gb, 8Gb 1866 ram, 1080p 60 Hz screen, mixed playable games 4. i5 2500, gtx 770 2Gb, 8Gb 1600 ram @ 1333 probably, 900p screen (TV), game played is WOT And I really want a 1080Ti strix in rig 1 (4790k) just to make it complete. Do I then trickle the cards down and dispose of the gtx770? Or is it not worth it? Mind you the 1080 already maxes out WOT, the only game I play personally, at 4k all day long.
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the 1080 Ti just seems like diminishing returns on the 4th gen to me. I just don't feel like you're getting $150+ more performance over the 1080. It could, the CPU just needs a little more horsepower and some faster RAM. With DDR3, there's not much to be gained past 1600MHz, but it's something I'd like to test. They all sound like pretty balanced setups.
@leemeng 4 жыл бұрын
Great work, I'll be looking out for the 3rd and 4th gen processors and avoiding the 2nd gen.
@lagginswag 4 жыл бұрын
Ivy and haswell have paste instead of solder, so watch temps. Source: I have a 3470
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! If you find a x90 series with an i5 for like $50, that's not a bad deal. Especially if you're on a tight budget. Also, you're not going to have any temp problems with Ivy and Haswell on these locked CPU's. Never seen one really consume over around 40 watts in these systems.
@virtualtools_3021 4 жыл бұрын
@@lagginswag 3570 with stock cooler never goes above 75 C, uses 55W (Folding@home)
@DCookStaVideo 4 жыл бұрын
Really good video. I have a 990 with 16GB, i7-2600 and a 1050TI. It's still good for 1080p gaming, but was eyeing the 1660 super since I upgraded the power supply.
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
The 1660 Super would be a great match for the 2600. It's about on par with the 1070, but only consumes as much power as the 1060 6GB.
@vjurbina 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Tons of really precious data. Good work!
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton!
@joeschratz9360 4 жыл бұрын
Lol you said it would be long but 40 min?! Lol This is totally worth the wait!
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
LOL.... yeah, I know. I wanted to give GPU recommendations for each CPU. I had to cut about 10 minutes out.
@flightsimfantasy9798 4 жыл бұрын
thanks so much for the video this was the exact question I had in mind I request that you do more videos in this segment of the market like HP and lenovo systems too
@jozefserf2024 4 жыл бұрын
Even if you did a video on random nonsense, it would be well worth watching. Good work. I was confident my i7 4770 would not be a bottleneck.
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Wow... I appreciate that. I actually worry about doing non-OptiPlex content right now.
@santiagomedina4472 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video. Thanks for all the work you did on this.
@magicstick5811 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Personally, the only main reason why someone should seek a 4th gen is probably for emulation capabilities, as they have TSX-NI support
@bradpittsburgh9252 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely worthy of a subscription. Sure it's interesting to watch some of the no limit High end builds with $30,000 worth of sponsor donated Hardware and a 200 gallon Saltwater fishtank cooling system but please give me more practical build videos beca7use at the end of the day both systems play the same games.
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Love my high end builds and I love building them, but these Opti's have been super satisfying... and as a bonus, not a drain on my wallet.
@joewayne9951 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video man I wish I’d of had this video about 3 years ago are so hahahaha back then though I was getting those 9010 and 9020 optiplex with i7 and 16gb ram on eBay for 150$ I think last time I looked they have inflated to 200$ish idk it’s great platform and for a while it was way overlooked
@Valentijn-en7nl 4 жыл бұрын
i got the 4th gen i7 with a 1650 super. thanks for this great video
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@peterjhhoey7567 4 жыл бұрын
your video was gratefully helpful
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@peterharband326 4 жыл бұрын
Love it! Stay healthy bro.
@jameslucop4503 3 жыл бұрын
Great work!! looking forward to 100k subs!
@hoodie_ninja 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome work man. I have a Dell precision t1700 with a Xeon e3 1246 v3 (effectively a i7 4770) paired with an RX 480 8gb. I know you dig the Optiplex line, but you should consider looking into the precision models. The price difference from core i to Xeon can be quite amazing while the performance is pretty much the same across the board.
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
I've actually been keeping my eye out for one. The other upside is that there are models that came with a 365 watt PSU with a 6-pin PCIe connector too.
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