So is the old guy's wife. If you know your extended universe, we'll see more of her.

@@SpectrumStorms the old man became the 12th doctor.

@@Mrcookiemonster515 ...

@@Mrcookiemonster515 I was waiting for the wooshing here. You've been wooshed!

@@Mrcookiemonster515 you just ruined the joke

and he looks at the camera lol

+ZippySaboteur Damn. I wish you cited the time he does that. I can't be bothered to watch it again. Oh well, no biggie.

it's at about 29:22 or 29:23

+ZippySaboteur Awww. Thank you.

To paraphrase Eric from the reaction to _Torchwood: Adam,_ "He's a fookin legend."

Doctor Who username and a Stranger Things icon, I like you

@@islaythejabberwokky Now it's Sansa. Somebody report again five years from now.

I know, and I'm counting down weeks!

My favorite episodes ever! Can’t wait!!

we have potato people first

Totally Unscripted potato people gave us Strax for later, so let’s not hate

Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead is in my top 5, probably.

Like that Peter whatever his last name Scottish guy??? He’d make a great doctor shame he was in this episode...

thats the joke

Josh Macdonald seen that face before...Malcolm tucker...

I think you can see her in Guardians of the Galaxy :P

I feel like she would have made a great companion! And Peter? Aw man, I heard he's a Doctor Who fan too? They should make him The Doctor, some day! Oh! And bring back the Zarbi too!

Technically three if you include the extended universe.

Oh, the foreshadowing

Spectrum Storm Who are you talking about?

44 Horizon Peter Capaldi played Carcilius in this episode and became the 12th Doctor later on.

+44 Horizon Caecilius' wife, played by Tracey Childs, played Elizabeth Klein, a companion of the Seventh Doctor in the Big Finish audios.

Come along Pond...

Shuttity Up Up Up!

and gwen, though tat is addressed in a later episode :)

@@Callumisagamer Come along, Roman Pond.

@Laura Martin-Falla I think the comment is referring to voyage of the damned where wilf is running a shop, but that IS Wilfred not the actor playing a different character

He is. The Doctor will comment on that in a future episode.

to be fair, he was not at that time, but the actor who played Donna father died, so they decided to bring in him as her grandad

It's not an inorganic retcon however, and Bernard Cribbins' character didn't exactly have anything firmly established back then (besides of course, his courage and staunch monarchism); also, since Howard Attfield (who played Geoff Noble) died in 2007 they had time to rewrite the scripts and incorporate the new role (as well as crediting the newspaper seller as "Wilfred Mott" rather than "Stan").

I am glad they use him though, I did enjoy him a lot.

Everyone does, so far as I know.

And Capaldi!

And Karen Gillan!

Ohhh when is that going to pay off? SPOILERS I've seen that he has a daughter unfortunately (bc i wanted to be surprised) but idk about the back thing

@@beatrizribeiro2417 The back thing happens in 4x11, Turn Left

@@lilyjustham ye ye, i ve already seen that :D

@@beatrizribeiro2417 Well, you said you didn't know. Just trying to be helpful

@@lilyjustham ye but at the time, it was just to tell u that know I know but neverthelss thank u

Exactly

Love that episode. That episode is the only time I've ever been scared in Doctor Who because of how dark the Doctor becomes and how far the "Time Lord Victorious" is willing to go...

"This song is ending, but the story never ends"

that's one of my all time fav episodes. i'm really excited for that!!

TGC.Films I think it is probably because people aren't as crazy for ancient Rome stories or maybe because season 4 has so many good stories.

Can't wait for them to see turn left. It's a great example of the butterfly effect

It's more simple than that. A fixed point is an event that the doctor already know about. He can not change it because it would cause a paradox. He can not know about it if it never happened. So it must happen or at least be close enough to match what he already know about the event.

Yeah, at least during Tennant's run. I actually got quite mad during Matt's run that they blew all that to the wind and just kept changing whatever they felt like changing, even their very own timelines.

@@singenstattatmen5096 while i agree that there is a lot to get mad about in the moffat era, i dont think they fucked up the concept of a fixed point. they interpreted it differently sure but by and large the consequences were still respected. we saw what happened in series 6 with the astronaut.

Exactly, Eric did call him on it as it may get to a situation where he asks why is there a camera there to record it all.

Some Random Guy _Cribbins_

Greppellio: Typo. I know his name, the guy was half my childhood.

*Tarkin

diddyknux Also it depends of how big of the event it is and what caused it I think. Vesuvius had to erupt - and if all those people hadn't die - their children could change history too much. Also if they didn't die then - volcano still would explode in later years. And the last thing is that it was an important eruption - it inspired movies, stories, art and other stuff. It is pretty much the most known eruption in the human history nowadays. It is like that episode with interstellar captain that inspired her granddaughter to become even bigger astronaut. You probably could rewrite fixed points, but they are known to be so important for the history that time lords aren't allowed to change those moments.

It's more about the time traveler memory itself. If the time traveler already know what happened he can not go back to change it because it would for sure change is own past (the moment were he learned what happened) So it's not limited to big event it can be any event a time traveler already know about.

+[Eric Jacques] If you can comment 2-3 months after the original comments, I feel Ican comment 2-3 months after yours.... At any rate, you are wrong and +[MSM] is mostly right. +[DextroDNA], at kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e8eRiM2Z3avcYWw.html&lc=UgxrpYI7DDr8YucP2Y94AaABAg (clicking the link might not work; in which case you'll need to copy it into your browser's address bar) to which you also posted essentially the same incorrect reply, is the one who got it spot on. You see, the thing that a lot of people get wrong about _Doctor Who_ is, a paradox and a Fixed Point in Time are *not the same thing!* What you describe is a simple paradox, where executing a certain action in the past negates the reason you went back in time in the first place, thus creating an inconsistent loop, aka a paradox. _[Side note: consistent loops, also known as Stable Time Loops, are of course not really a paradox and thus no problem in the Whoniverse. See "Blink", as a famous example.]_ A Fixed Point in Time is what +[DextroDNA] described elsewhere in the Comment Section, where changing an event has such massive ripple effects on the rest of Time that Time can no longer adapt to said effects, and is instead torn apart. A lot of Whovians have wondered over the years why we never saw the Reapers from _Father's Day_ again, when there were clearly Fixed Points in Time being altered in other Episodes. The reason, obviously, is that what Rose did in _Father's Day_ was create a paradox, not alter a Fixed Point in Time, and nobody else ever created a non-Fixed Point paradox in Episodes after that. Because, again, *(normal) paradoxes and Fixed Points are not the same thing* .

iKaroliina It's been a while since I've watched Doctor Who, what did that foreshadow again?

Jupiterninja95 it's the foreshadow for the Trickster-beetle that gets put on Donna's back and creates the alternative timeline where she never met the Doctor in the episode Turn Left

Ciaran Campton thanks!

Ciaran Campton it's the tricksters beetle, not the trickster-beetle and that was the closest we got to getting the trickster into main doctor who

Did you know that, if Elisabeth Sladen hadn't died before SJA Series 5 finished filming, the final story of the season would see the Trickster return for his final battle with Sarah Jane? Basically the story, titled "The Battle of Bannerman Road", would reveal that the birth and odd nature of Sky (Sarah Jane's adopted daughter and Luke's sister, introduced that season) was really manipulated by the Trickster in order to turn her into his pawn and allow him to regain his power; he would subsequently warp reality, turning 13 Bannerman Road into a castle which he ruled over, and Team SJ would need to stop him. In the conclusion Sky, having the Trickster's powers would break free of him and they would fight, whereupon Sky would permanently destroy the Trickster and gain his full powers and with them, she would take his place as a "higher being" in the pantheon he was a part of (preserving the balance of power in the universe or something like that). There are of course other ideas that RTD couldn't make due to Sladen's unfortunate passing (including having Sophie Aldred reprise her role as Dorothy "Ace" McShane in Series 6), but that one stuck out for the unfortunate lost potential of concluding SEVERAL story arcs (the Trickster granted was a loose antagonist, and his nature was vague enough, but still I would have liked to see his stint as Sarah Jane's archenemy resolved as it was planned to).

Jayden Yugi Thats why Donna was the best companion. She isn’t a desperate girl pining for the Doctors love, she actually has proper character and challenges him especially when he always thinks he’s right.

@@Craig-gq4gb You really don't have to take a jab at other companions.

flopius1 shit comment

Hmm. Good choice. ;-)

It's my first historical story so it has a special place in my heart.

The whole 4th season is a jewel. Unicorn and The Wasp, Midnight... They're *all* good.

HyTricksy ahhh midnight is great toooo!

HyTricksy actually it’s series not season. Season was the classics

Lmao I'm 2 years late, but I just wanted to say that that's awesome!

Tenth Doctor yeah he could make a perfect doctor couldn't he? Maybe I'm just being stupid.

Don't be lasagna

I liked that one priest as well

You said the same thing about that Time Lord guard that shot you... weird...

That's why you'll choose his face?

DextroDNA Yeah. He was just retconned to take the place of the actor who played Donnas father in the runaway bride, who sadly passed away.

James Nestor and in Doctor Who canon Donna's Dad actually died to match up with what happened in real life. Mentioned in detail in the book Beautiful Chaos.

It's also mentioned in "Turn Left" (in the alternate timeline) which alludes to the family still being in mourning for him. Plus in "The End of Time", the Doctor borrows a quid from him in the past in order to buy Donna a GUARANTEED winning lottery ticket so she and her new husband can be set financially - also in a sense, giving her a wedding gift from her dad which she'd never have gotten (this gesture moves Sylvia to tears).

Mats Martensson lowkey i think aaron watches everything ahead as well

@@AdventuringwithTrevor He is the one who's said he's already watched, I think?

So does the old guy's wife. If you know your extended universe, we'll see more of her.

Mark Lewis shhhh

"Laser Screwdriver! Who'd have sonic?"

"What else do you have, a laser wrench? -I used to, but it got stolen"

MavenCree RS?

Astrid - Richard Simmons.

River Song

Libby Guglielmetti Oh duh

Lol! Yep! :) They'll find out soon enough!

I can't think of a Good User Name also Capaldy is 12 Doctor

Mats Matensson - He has to according to his own sense of morality. He could go back and stop Hitler, stop all the Generals and politicians from having World War 2, saving millions of lives. Then millions of people would exist that wouldn't have otherwise, they would meet people that they would never have before, have kids with different people. 70 years of history would be changed and virtually everyone alive today would be erased from existence because our ancestors would never have met. Not to mention all the people in the future yet to be born. He saves a few lives and wipes out billions in the process.

Well, most humans did not get the opportunity to mess up their own time line. From the doctors point of view it is a fixed event that Daleks will conquer earth in the mid 22nd century...because if this doesn't happen the last 900 years o f his life wouldn't have happened(Taking in account when in the show we are..the number of centuries affected can of course vary). And more important humans have to develop police boxes so the TARDIS can get stuck in that disguise. Absolute FIXED events. Changing those will have disastrous results ;)

Mats Martensson Everyone is important to someone,reminds you sth:D

Mats Martensson tell that to 12,lol his words

Do... Do you have a signature in your _KZfaq_ _comments?_

And after that its proper doctor who

Noooo

And if you know your extended universe, it features a past companion.

whom?

Caecilius' wife. She is played by Tracey Childs, who played Elizabeth Klein, a companion of the Seventh Doctor in the audios.

Spectrum Storms oh she played klein? Thank you, I hadn’t noticed

J Tevo of course Capaldi had so many great episodes for example mummy and the orient express heaven sent knock knock world enough and time and doctor falls

J Tevo but I also did like pertwee and Davidson