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a detail i love is when Jake says they’re language might aswell be english now that he’s learned it, and it goes from the kids speaking navi to speaking english. they’re actually speaking navi, but it transitions to english so the audience can understand like jake now does.

A thing I did not expect to happen for me watching the movie was having some anxiety and ptsd stuff happening during the sinking ship scene. I am previous Navy, and seeing them going deeper into the ship was just having my body curl and making me cringe from fear. It was a tough scene to get past.

Damn it's rough to see Aaron's fatherly instinct and reaction to Neteyam's story. Man knows exactly what he would do for his own kids and his heart breaks seeing the parents watch their son die

Y'know, at first when I saw that final shot of Jake opening his eyes yet again, I rolled my eyes. But I think I get it now. The 'fortress' is not the Metkayina home per se, but all of Pandora. Jake's not just going to try and mitigate, he's actually going to fight for the planet again. Not sure if he knows about the terraforming plans yet, but the fighting spirit is back - the best defense is a good offense? We'll see in two years!

Kate Winslett had the record for the crew in holding her breathe in this movie at 7 min 15 seconds.

I feel like Kirri is actually the reincarnation of Grace and their great mother Eywa. At the end of the first movie Grace was going to permanently be Navi but she died before it could finish. So Kirri is a part of Grace and Eywa

Man, you guys should have really seen it in the theatres. It was like a lifetime experience.

I'm glad you guys didn't write off or hate on Spider like so many people who've seen/reacted to this film. Honestly, Spider in my opinion is the most compelling character in terms of potential emotional/dramatic character arcs. The relationships he has with the Sully kids (that see him as a friend/brother) vs Jake & Neytiri (that see him as a "stray cat") vs Jake (adoptive father) & Quaritch (bio father) all have really interesting potential for conflict and character growth.

Such an incredible movie seeing it in IMAX was such amazing experience

Grace died as they were trying to transfer her from the human body to her Avatar. She didn't make it through so to speak. That's how the movie ended. And now they are saying that the Avatar body later birthed Kiri, spoken by the same actress. So it looks like the transfer kinda worked.

Seeing this movie in 3d was incredible. I know 3D movies get a bad wrap historically, but the technology James Cameron uses for the Avatar movies makes the 3D experience AMAZING. It was such a cool experience that I'm currently in the process of finding a way to burn and convert the Blueray to a VR 3D compatible format so I can watch it in 3D VR again at home.

One of the reasons they have to film underwater is bc unlike Calvin suggested water has resistance that can’t be naturally simulated with “dry for wet” techniques. Super intricate and corridor crew made great vids on it.

You guys probably didn't catch this, but the girl who played the wife of the Water tribe was Kate Winslet, so it was ironic when you made the Titanic connection with the boat sinking considering this is her second collaboration with James Cameron. So much of this film feels like a greatest hits of James Cameron's films. The action at the end definitely gave me True Lies and Aliens vibes, including the new mech suits the humans have and the little sister falling down the drain ala Newt in Aliens, the mobile, one-man subs reminded me a lot of The Abyss, Quartich crushing the skull in his hand gave me serious Terminator skull crushing vibes, the ship sinking definitely recalls Titanic, & the flooding was very Titanic and The Abyss, kinda weird how so much of this film is sort of a compilation of his whole career.

Zoe Saldana's performance of grief was so amazing, just gut wrenching stuff. Then in the fight scenes as well.

This was SO GOOD. I was trying not to expect anything because i didn't want to be too disappointed since i loved the first movie so much, but i was blown away.

Payakan is such an Awesome character, is great to see him

After the first movie, I wanted to see more of Jake and Neytiri. After the second, now, I want to see more of Spider, Lo‘ak and Kiri. They‘re left off with huge inner conflicts: Kiri always felt alienated and different, because of her intense connection to Eywa. Spider joined a family he never really was considered part of, after saving their mortal enemy. He‘s formed a bond with Quaritch, but chose to live with the Sully‘s and with the fact that Neytiri would’ve happily off‘d him to save Kiri. And finally, Lo‘ak. He saw his brother die, his dad literally told him it was his fault and he believes so himself. Then, there is his Spirit Brother Payakan, who probably will be disliked even more, because he had chosen to kill again. Of course I‘m excited to see more of the others as well, but I‘m most thrilled by those three. I believe, because of their inner conflicts, that they will grow more and more distant with the Sully‘s. After losing Neteyam, Lo‘ak will get even more protective over Kiri and she herself is very protective over Spider. I think that the trio will grow closer and eventually help each other with their struggles. And they probably one day will be joined by Tsireya, who has formed a deep bond with Lo‘ak and because of her good soul, she will not let him grieve alone and will stay close to him, because she cares for him.

My theory for what will happen in the next movie is Jake is definitely going to have to rally up all of the Na'vi tribes he can find, and he probably will be traveling from biome to biome trying to convince tribe leaders to join their battle. Maybe one of the tribe leaders will feel threatened and disagree and will be kind of a secondary antagonist. We’ll probably see his son step up more as a main character. And I think that marine biologist guy will probably still be alive and will be hanging out with the scientists. We’ll probably get some stuff with Spider and the Colonel too.

57:46 one of my favorite bow and arrow kills I’ve seen in a movie

I know this is a few months old but the Avatar franchise is my special interest and just wanted to let everyone know that Spider’s mother was named Paz Socorro, she was a fighter pilot under Quaritch and was killed in the war. She isn’t mentioned in the movies but she’s mentioned in the comic Avatar: The High Ground

I really don’t understand the hate this movie received. I’m fine with people not liking it. But their reason are very contradicting. 1) They would say it has a simple plot. But mind I ask, WHEN HAS THIS EVER BEEN A PROBLEM? One of the most profitable movies last year were top gun maverick. Receiving praises all around, never heard a complaint about the movie being too simple (which it is). And don’t get me stated with marvel and Star Wars content. Like it feels like there’s a hidden agenda with people and this movie. Because even before it released they’re were people non-stop hating on a film that has yet to be released.

I saw this in 3D and it was stunning. Me and my mom just stayed in the theater for the credits to look at the beautiful, calming ocean scenes. I've been snorkeling and the visuals are almost 100% realistic!!! Insane.

I think because the hype and the visuals the Avatar movies have this expectation of some revolutionary story but that isn't the point and never has been. It's about the simplicity and beauty in culture and in nature. The fellowship of community and family. It's long because learning and adopting into a new culture cannot and should not be done quickly. There is so much symbolism in the training scenes and how it can correlate to our society that I could write a whole novel. All in all this movie is much better when you rewatch with the first one fresh in your mind and you focus less on what is going to happen in the main story and more on what is going on in the moment and what that means.

One of the reasons I absolutely adore you guys is the fact that you always wait and hold off on watching these films to record it for us to see your reactions 🥺 love you guys

One of the great little details that Cameron got so right and all of these other movies (Aquaman) get wrong about underwater cinematography is that the actors or characters have air bubbles forming on their skin.

The younger/child actors in this movies were 🔥. I really enjoyed their performances and i wish they had been the main characters. That would have made the film so much interesting

I don't believe Neytiri ever intended to kill Spider. The threat was just for show. After she cut him, she threw him behind her, not toward Quartrich. She may think he belongs with his own kind, but she knows how much he means to her own kids. ijs

I’m really glad you guys reacted to this but yous missed out not seeing it in theatres, it was truly an incredible experience.

the score in this movie was insane especially the battle in the sea

Man, it hurts watching Aaron reacting to the death of Neteyam knowing what he’s going through in his personal life

Easily my favorite movie of 2022. I implore everyone to see this movie in 3D, especially imax 3D at least. Real 3D is gonna look kinda framey in some scenes. I’ve seen this movie at least 5 times, and I can’t wait to see what James does with 3- yes I’ve read about the aggressive fire Na’vi but there’s also a confidence he displays here introducing sm cool things like Bridgehead or future antagonists- possibly immortal ones who’ve been on that Taikun juice- which I can’t wait to see be used in the future

Something that I’ve been thinking about is Kiri’s seizure could be because she was essentially plugged into god and there is only so much that your brain can take of that before it takes its toll, and the reason she sees her mother is for lake of better phrasing, eywa is using Grace as an avatar to communicate through the “memories” and it could be in part actually Grace because she was “with eywa” when she died in the first movie so it could have actually been her talking and not eywa but I like to think it ended with eywa talking to her through grace.

i watched this in IMAX and 4d and it was incredible! i understand the pace isn’t for everybody but this is how james cameron works and it to me is amazing, i like the realism and the slow build. the cgi and cinematic experience is something else and i loved it

about spider , spider never had a real family , only at the end of climax jake call him "son for a son " in the beigining he was just a stray cat , if u read the comics spider makes much more sense ,there is a line in comic spider adopted us , which means he sees jake's family as his but they see him as merely a stray cat except kiri.

This was such an incredibly thrilling experience visually and in terms of action! The family dynamic may have been wonky at first but by the end, it absolutely rocked! Seeing it in the cinema with 3D blew me away! It’s a slow movie to really take in since it’s one you’re supposed to, definitively, live it. SUPER EXCITED FOR THE NEW SEQUELS! 😍🙌 P.S. Tuktirey is the best kid. 💞

I had the same issue that Aaron had. It's very weird that the water peeps just disappeared for some reason. That and then how the colonel knew he had killed one of his kids and said it over the radio yet he had no way of knowing that.

So apparently the reason the Metkayina disappeared in the end was because James Cameron thought their kills were too brutal or something. I’m not sure we’re they got this info from but I thought I could mention it.

Kiri being space jesus is such an interesting concept

James Cameron knows best when it comes to water in that it's both beautiful and can easily be terrifying

Man I love these Avatar movies but if James Cameron let a team of writers come for the next few movies and set up a more unique plot, I think the writing for the characters is fine they just need a better story, with James amazing directing and visuals combined with a unique story would send these movie to another level

I find it funny that most of Eric's critiques are aplicable to Marvel and Star Wars movies, especially the one about Stephen Lang coming back from the dead. I didn't like it either, tbh, but I found his critique about it funny.

The third movie will supposedly revolve around a group of fire navi who disrupt the balance of the universe. Nickelodeon bouta sue.

I appreciate the fact that you guys waited to watch this by not going to the theatre but you guys really should watch Avatar movies on the big screen. To experience it in full potential of in 3D/Imax. At least do it for the next Avatar movies.

Lo’ak is an extension of Jake and Netayam is an extension of Neyteri - even in the way they appear physically.

56:02 I hate seeing Aaron cry man, it's always when the kids get hurt or killed in movies when he cries cus he's a father and you can tell it affects him more.

God i miss being in the theater watching this movie. Such a fantastic time. The last hour / 40-mins ish of action was incredible

Nurse Jackie got caught smuggling all those pills, got fired, joined the army, rose to the rank of General, went off planet and became in charge of the whole planet's worth of operations and missions fighting giant aliens. She's insane.

Kiri is actually played by Sigourney Weaver, who played Grace in the first one. I saw some interviews with her and James Cameron about it. He said it was incredible to see Sigourney immerse herself in this teenage character and she was describing how great this role was for connecting with her teenage self again after such long time. It is really incredible technology which can allow actors to play roles they would otherwise never be able to.

Idk if it has been confirmed but my opinion about Kiri is that she is a product of them trying to save Grace last movie by having Aewa transfer her into her avatar but it not working. Kiri could be Aewas way of bringing Grace back to life, which is why Kiri is shown to have this giga connection to Aewa and the planet.

Just realised something… a rear naked choke would be deadly underwater, coz you can’t escape it. You can’t elbow them, you can’t do a shoulder throw, you can’t even back headbutt, you’re just done at that point 👍🏽

Easily the most enjoyable and breathtaking movie theater experience of my life

I wouldn’t care if the third one was 5 hours long. Cause god damn, the story telling is magical

okay, you guys do know the connection sensors are in their “hair” and not their tails right? everyone keeps using them interchangeably when they aren’t lol

it was INCREDIBLE in theatres, especially IMAX and Screen X (I saw it 4 times in theatre and bought it the first day it was out on Apple TV.)

I love you guys, but kinda upset you didnt like the main bad guy coming back for this movie. I loved the concept of him coming back to finish what he couldn't, but it's kinda a different character. I think in the sequels, this version we meet will turn good, but another avatar with his conscience will come back with even more hate for what his past self became. I think the rivalry between jake and Q could be as legendary as ash and team rocket.

With all due respect, I feel like people who are overly harsh on their criticism of the avatar movies seem to be showing some kind of cognitive dissonance. Based on the reaction of these guys, they clearly throughly enjoyed the movie and were invested in what was happening, shed tears at Netayam's death, were well into the action and were rooting for the main characters all the way, but then once it was over they seemed to be hesitant to be overly positive, almost like they're obligated to be critical of it. They all liked it clearly and say as much at the end, but it seems less enthusiastic then their reactions would indicate. Other reactors had very similar reactions to these and had no hesitation gushing over the movie afterwards, and then there were those who were clearly not that invested and said as much afterwards, both pretty honest. But then there are those who seem to really like it but nevertheless seem almost ashamed of saying anything overly positive about it. I feel like people get jaded over movies so easily these days, thinking a simple, predictable story and characters just always equals "bad" for some reason and just has to be crapped on for that reason alone, even though most of these people would be perfectly fine with this in many other movies that they enjoy. The criticism makes no sense, it completely dismisses any of the other factors that contribute to ones enjoyment of a movie; the performances, the dialogue, the interplay between characters, the ideas and concepts, the production quality and design (especially for a fantasy or sci fi movie), the editing and pacing, cinematography, soundtrack etc. Regardless of how familiar a story is, that doesn't actually impact any of these things, the movie as a whole can still be "good" despite how familiar the story it is. But instead the hypercritical and cynical film critic culture online these days has just killed any leaway on films that work beyond whats on the written page; most of the things I mentioned in that list is derived from the script anyway so there's that... I guarantee most of the people who engage in this kind of thinking have never been near a film set or a writing class, and seem to talk so confidently about these things despite what actual filmmakers and writers have to say; look up opinions from people in the industry on the avatar movies and they're mostly very positive, there are even writing classes online that use the first movie as a positive example of effective screenwriting, think about that... I feel like the avatar movies have shown up the disconnect that exists in movie tastes between the internet film fan community and the rest of the world. Both movies are phenomenal worldwide successes, gain overly positive word of mouth and repeat viewings (way of water is still in theatres!), celebrated at awards season and gain mostly positive critic reviews; even the re-release of the first movie September last year, which came with little fan fare, did great and was loved by those who watched it for the first time. And yet, you go to the online community and no one seems to care; not a lot of meme content or parodies or sketches etc. What's weirder is that people take this as a gauge of how successful something is, even though the people who make this content are a tiny percentage of the world's population, and a tiny percentage of the movie going audience, so why should they be an indicator for how well a movie does? Why not just ride along with what the movie has in store and be honest with how you felt, regardless of what a few other people say; I'd say they're less inclined to understand how successful movies work than the ones putting the time and effort making those movies, so perhaps give the filmmakers the benefit of the doubt when they catch your attention!

I’m fine with these long movies because they are able to fit the story in without having to cut things out that they don’t want to, movies between 2:45 and 3:20 hours are perfect

I couldn't help but laugh at all the people online who said the movie would flop and i was like no it's making over 2 billion at least and it's made 2.5 billion.

This movie went by so quickly for me. I would not have minded if it was like 4 hours. I was so invested. I could literaly watch hours of just a documentary of this planet with David Attenborough narrarating

I love this movie so much I cry every time

10:30 its funny that you mention that as I noticed what Neytiri says here 56:40 is the navi way of saying god that's a very cool detail

34:30 I literally also said “There’s always a bigger fish…” first time I saw this too

One of the writers behind this movie (and the next few sequels) is also writing Marvel's Fantastic Four reboot!

I can't wait for the third film coming next year!

Also something that you guys, me too, didn't notice is that the Avatar that shot Neteyam didn't actually die in the final sinking scene, he survived.

According to a tie-in comic, Spider’s mother is a woman named Paz Soccoro, who died in the assault on Hometree

That titanic comment killed me 😂😂

Saw this movie twice, once at my local theatre then at my local cinema. It was a amazing experience this movie definitely

So, no, most of the water you're seeing on screen isn't fake, it's real. One of the reasons it took Cameron a decade to make this film is, in addition to wanting to have a full-complete outline for what all 4 sequels will be (unlike the Star Wars sequel trilogy), Cameron wanted to use real underwater performance capture, but unfortunately that technology wasn't available & took years to develop. So he spent years trying to develop new camera technology that would allow him to do performance capture underwater that wasn't affected by the lense refractions that has prevented performance capture to be done underwater previously. This also meant all the actors had to be trained to hold their breaths for extended periods so that Cameron could get long shots without having to cut constantly. So yes, most of these shots are the actors actually underwater, that's why it looks so real.

I had every intension of seeing this one in theaters multiple times. The tul'kun hunting scene messed me up. I could not make myself sit through that again in that large of a scale. I barely held it together after Neteyam. I knew the moment he showed back up on the boat he was going to die but it didn't make the hurt any less, especially with Zoe's performance. You can tell she tapped into something built into mothers for that anger, grief, and sadness.

I feel like this movie was def setting up the third movie and really starting to build these characters because the family is going to be a big focal point, especially Kiri and Loak. I loved this movie so much and I think it was beautifully shot and man those water scenessss....so darn real. But yea all in all this movie was a big setup for what is to come for the next 3.

I got exactly what I was expecting with this movie. I went in expecting a great world, groundbreaking visuals and special effects but nothing special story-wise, just like the first movie.

I watched it last week and I really liked it! They filmed Avatar 3 at the same time and it will release december next year. This happens 16 years after the first movie, so Spider and Neteyam are both 16 years old. Some fact that will blow your mind: Apparently the whole movie was shot at 24 fps but the action scenes at 48 fps so the 24 fps scenes were duplicated. The fact that they had to come up with new motion capture for filming scenes underwater is mindblowing to me. The VFX for Avatar 2 needed 3.3 billion thread power.

There are movies with better characters, dialogue and plot, but still Avatar 1/2 are my favorite movies ever. Cameron somehow managed to satisfy tose deep instinctual urges within us. Hard feeling to explain

You know, I definitely understand what Eric is saying about the CGI character barrier. I felt the same way watching it in theaters. Even though the Navi are so well done now and realistic, there's still something in my head that prevents me from treating them the same as real human actors. It's almost uncanny valley but not quite that - hard to describe. And traditional animation skips uncanny valley, so I don't have this issue there. I'm quite emotional normally and really wanted to feel for the son's death and the family's reaction to it, but I just didn't really feel that emotional connection. Still, it was very beautiful, and I'm glad Cameron took so long to work on the sequels because it shows. Unbelievable how beautiful the ocean was.

seeing this in the movie theatre was honestly my best movie experience EVER. i was IMMERSED

51:27 is honestly one of my favorite moments ever. They’re literally spearfishing humans

I watched this 5 times in IMAX. Loved it every time.

As 80%+ of the reason to watch this movie is about the visuals, you guys should really have skipped the initial reaction here to have watched it in a real 3D HFR IMAX.

I remember when this came out people gave crap to Spider for being a traitor and suddenly switching sides all the time. He never switched sides. He accompanied them because he kind of had to or just continued to be locked up where he couldn't do anything. Sure Spider was a little conflicted because but way too much hatred. Same thing with the hatred on Jack. I could see him being a loving father until the war and his military training kicking in and treating them more like soldiers, disassociating a bit due to the stress and change in mindset, and being stricter with his sons.

Having adored the first film, I was looking forward to its sequel for years, like other fans have. I even went to an IMAX 3D showing, w/ my parents, for the rerelease of the first film this past September to refresh my memory, before seeing the sequel. When Way of Water released in theaters, I was there the Thursday it opened back in December, loved it from beginning to end. Even though it was a standard screening. A week later, I spent over $160 for an IMAX 3D showing. Took my parents, my sister, her husband n their 2 daughters along w/ me to experience the film. I enjoyed it even more, the 2nd viewing. JC’s plan is 5 films in total I believe. The 3rd film is already shot, n is being edited down to whatever runtime JC is comfortable w/. So the wait won’t b as long this time. 🤣👏

The thud from the arrows is amazingly perfect and scary.

First of all, it came out on my birthday last year so I watched it with a group of friends that night. The cinema was sold out! I work at a theater and watched it (for free) another 4 times. It was in theaters for almost as long as Black Panther: Wakanda Forever. Three whole hours and 20 minutes of beauty. Cant wait til the next installment! I've been waiting on this reaction from you guys.

1:04:49 exactly my thoughts. The just dipped and let the Sullys handle it. 😭

so, in the first one grace was dying so they took both her and her avatar to the tree thing and connected both trying to move her soul from her dying human body into the healthy avatar body. it was what they did with Jake, but he wasn't dying. you can look at kiri one of two ways i think: 1. she is the daughter of both Grace and eywa (mother nature). 2. it's grace, reborn. eywa couldn't complete the transfer of souls, but she could transfer Grace's soul into the avatar as a pregnancy

This movie was incredible

Everyone has said it a million times, but yeah, seeing this in IMAX was unlike anything else. It topped the experience of the first movie for sure, even when nothing had since.

Arron is a good dad i see how choked up he gets whenever a scene involves a child

some movies are made for theatre experience , avatar movies are such ones , the 3 hrs doesnt feel like it . and about water navi vanished beacuse its already 3hr movie , and they have to cut some scenes from the climax , thats why only sully vs colonel battle was shown after at some point in climax.

Finally! 😭😭💙💙💙💙 Man, I love this movie so much.

Experienced it in theaters. One of the best movie experience I have ever felt. Yet, I still don't understand the hate for the movie.

“I gotta do the titanic thing!”😂😂

i wish i could plug into a tree and relive moments ive had with passed relatives and friends

I believe that when Sigourney Weavers character died while trying to transfer her mind to her avatar, her consciousness went first into Aiwa during the transfer and that's where she ended up staying, so she's truly a part of the planet now. Her avatar was either impregnated in that same moment with part of her or she really did get pregnant before that happened, maybe with the nerdy guy, who knows...either way, the baby in that moment was imbued with a deeper connection to Aiwa and Pandora through Sigourney's character. She's not a Jesus character in my opinion...she's more like the event created almost like an elemental in a sense. Someone with the powers of nature...a natural wizard almost.

You pretty much summed up my thoughts on this movie. The story isn’t anything particularly unique but it’s an enjoyable watch and visually stunning. Also you guys should watch Titanic: 20 Years Later with James Cameron if you haven’t already.

Saw this in theaters, and gotta say.. it was visually stunning. The water is gorgeous, and the scenery is breathtaking. But the story is even more forgettable than the first one. At least I remember the first one being basically blue Pocahontas. This one, I vaguely remember "family good" and "whaling bad", and being annoyed to hell that kid saved the guy that got his adopted brother killed, and almost killed the rest of his adopted family.

I watched this in theaters it was awesome I loved it the brothers death reminds me of when Jake said he had a brother but he was killed it’s like the cycle continued which is bittersweet because both older brothers were just trying to protect the younger ones and they don’t see that until they are gone the ending had me in tears jake being able to see his son one last time ik that they said they practically grew up on set together the little girl is now the age they were when they started making this movie

I still cry every time I see this movie, this is my all time favourite movie of 2022 along with everything everywhere all at once

1:23:20 Sigourney is six feet tall in real life and Kiri is not yet a full grown woman.