Why is Fashion So Repetitive?

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Bliss Foster

Bliss Foster

Күн бұрын

Luxury fashion, especially at the highest price points like Dior and Chanel, are very slow to evolve key designs and “iconic” motifs of their brands. This applies to the ready-to-wear as well as hallmark bags and shoes. And to some degree, the reliance on these key models as social currency guides the design philosophy of innovation (or repetition) at these brands. Today, we’re asking why brands are so repetitive, whether they really are repetitive, whether I would ever design clothes myself, the end goal of fashion, and whether Coco Chanel was a Nazi.
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@piccalillipit9211
@piccalillipit9211 11 ай бұрын
*JOBS IN FASHION* my [ex] friend is an American chemist and she works for a fashion house in the Netherlands in their textile development facility - thats how diverse the jobs are
@ohserxu
@ohserxu 10 ай бұрын
sick! im an american in the netherlands trying to get involved in the fashion world! also music! so check me out
@sylvienguyen1010
@sylvienguyen1010 7 ай бұрын
So, she's in material science and polymer science
@piccalillipit9211
@piccalillipit9211 7 ай бұрын
@@sylvienguyen1010 Yes. Specifically polymers.
@yellowbags
@yellowbags 11 ай бұрын
Talking about a museum that shows all the crazy techniques: I finally visited the ModeMuseum in Antwerpen and saw all the great work by Margiela and the Antwerp Six. Margiela is recognisable yet so fresh, still to this day. Obsessed.
@pheebschen5296
@pheebschen5296 11 ай бұрын
Omg you just summed it up perfectly. My partner once asked me “why don’t you design your own bag?” Since he saw I’m very picky in terms of choosing handbags. It did occur to me once, but I’m more into…selecting/curating what’s out there? Like, I found it fascinating that I don’t have much desire to design my own, yet I could talk for hours of the designer bags that I managed to collect, of its features, design aspects that I find genius to be implemented to handbags, etc
@xxx_these.flightless.wings_xxx
@xxx_these.flightless.wings_xxx 8 ай бұрын
I'm somewhere in between these two: I very rarely make my own garments from scratch, but I often buy (mostly second hand) garments that have one or two details "missing" or "wrong" and I alter them to make them "perfect" in my eyes
@ravinandinikatoch9343
@ravinandinikatoch9343 11 ай бұрын
*I'm a fashion critic* was the funniest. Jokes apart, love the effort you put into your videos. Cheers ✌
@alexanderpons9246
@alexanderpons9246 11 ай бұрын
Great topic Bliss Foster! Funny I think(not sure though)around the 1960's everything that was a hobby started to be promoted as a career and therefor many people who love Fashion for what it makes them feel think that they need to be part of the Industry. Yes, there can be those who love one thing and proceed to become part of that world but the percentage is small. I guess its part of the mentality of you can be whatever you want to be. Thank you for all the time and effort to create this wonderful channel!
@GraphicDesignNY
@GraphicDesignNY 11 ай бұрын
Being comfortable taking your time contemplate things rather than draw a conclusion too soon is a sign of maturity.
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster 11 ай бұрын
Strong agree
@diyhah
@diyhah 11 ай бұрын
I think Dior has a few museums/ galleries and does exhibitions around the world ( i know of paris and shanghai ). They display the iconic looks and techniques in a beautiful themed space
@xxx_these.flightless.wings_xxx
@xxx_these.flightless.wings_xxx 11 ай бұрын
Yes! I got to visit their museum in Paris, the displays were absolutely stunning
@iluvshirtz5478
@iluvshirtz5478 11 ай бұрын
8:09 got me crying 😭
@danadarby8961
@danadarby8961 11 ай бұрын
😂 If it's fashion then I was born in fashion, throw me in the thumbnail..... No don't People's eyes would start melting away.
@ambergris5705
@ambergris5705 11 ай бұрын
About the Boss/Chanel question, I think that your perspective is great if we're talking about a "screenshot": Chanel then, and Chanel now. But the problem is that history is flowing quite seamlessly between periods, at least in terms of people. Gabrielle Chanel did not receive retribution for her actions, and was able to continue her life mostly unaffected. Maybe even (just like for Boss), their actions during the war helped to propel them to further success. And that's an issue, benefitting from the harm you caused. But even then, if a brand was involved in dirty affairs, it shouldn't be too hard to just say "sorry", it makes such a difference for the victims. Even giving a little bit of the profit. Not doing it however is just... Putting you in a position where it looks like you are not disapproving of the actions of your forebears. And that's (for example) an issue I have with BMW. The Quandt family, who owns BMW got rich through WW2 thanks to dirty business with the nazis. They kept their wealth, kept their brands and their influence, until today. And yet, they have not even recognised the involvement of members of the family with nazism. Appalling.
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster 11 ай бұрын
That’s an interesting perspective. I’ll have to give that some thought. I think we can maybe agree on this: the employees of Chanel now should not be harassed. If someone should take action, it should be the owners of the company. Do you agree?
@ambergris5705
@ambergris5705 11 ай бұрын
@@BlissFoster 100%. Thanks for pointing it out. I don't engage in public political protest, I am more the quiet thinker type I guess, but since your comments in the video pointed out that people do act violently towards the wrong persons, I should have pointed it out. But to explain my previous point, it basically boils down to the same principles as genocide denial: by making sure to forget or rewrite a piece of history, we exclude the lived experiences of victims and survivors, and make them disappear, just like genocide was meant to exterminate them. Similarly, not acknowledging the violent legacy of a brand is like pretending that the violence never happened, which is against our feeling of justice, and is very hurtful towards those who suffered this violence.
@HaHaHaLMFAOtv
@HaHaHaLMFAOtv 11 ай бұрын
recently I've heard this perspective that she did what she had to do out of necessity. Can't state my sources but that she had some closely related person at the hands of nazis and to keep him alive she obliged to their rules. After all Paris was occupied and there were French people working for German just to stay alive and she was one of them
@Aluenvey
@Aluenvey 9 ай бұрын
The violent activists is precisely what I have an issue with. And if were being real Soviet Union didnt have the best record for minority rights. What would you say about someone financially benefitting from the Holodomor? I agree with ancoms in particular, but these standards Im like: yea nope.
@nataliahofmeister
@nataliahofmeister 6 ай бұрын
I know this is an old video, but I'm watching all the videos on your channel (enjoying my vacation) and MY GOD thank you for all the knowledge you share. Unfortunately I still can't contribute to your Patreon, but as soon as I can, I certainly will. Hugs from Brazil!
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster 6 ай бұрын
More Brazil homies! Hi! Thanks so much for checking out the older videos, we try to make them as informative as info-rich as possible!
@Tripn
@Tripn 11 ай бұрын
the key to being good at anything is just conistently working on it. thats it. you could totally be a fashion designer. u have the vision.
@karigrandii
@karigrandii 11 ай бұрын
10:18 people need to understand that EVERYTHING every industry or business does, its end goal is to make the economy grow (ie. make money for the people who own a lot of money already). This makes us do the same thing in our everyday lives. All every industry and business around us tries to do is make the economy grow. This is why we don’t actually get any benefits from this because we aren’t as a society trying to make things better or more equal or more sustainable. Our only goal as a species right now is just to make the economy grow no matter the cost. This cost is things like having people live in poverty because equality doesn’t benefit the system or destroying forests and oceans because we need to harvesy everything now and not tomorrow. We need the economy to grow now and nothing else matters. This is the simple explenation why neoliberal capitalism is by definition unsustainable. This is also the reason why consumer choice (you consuming eco friendly or ethical products) or new technology won’t solve anything: because it’s all designed to just make profit for someone not save us. Luckily unsustainable practices can’t physically exist forever so we will eventually learn to do things better but it’s just sad that we have to wait and watch people lose their ground water supply and animals lose their homes just so someone can be happy that GDP went up.
@Aluenvey
@Aluenvey 9 ай бұрын
I was thinking maybe Fashion Illustrator. My collections might throw people off a bit, but those are references. I want to illustrate costumes, while working toward broadway. Plus part of the joy isnt just creating outfits, but color mixing, and finding out what colors go well together.
@darkovinster2754
@darkovinster2754 11 ай бұрын
Great video! Thank you!
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster 11 ай бұрын
Thank YOU!’ 🙏🙏
@danadarby8961
@danadarby8961 11 ай бұрын
Look at your hair grow 🖤 When you flipped in front of your face and flipped it back I was like that some healthy hair.
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster 11 ай бұрын
Haha thank you! My wife is to thank for that. I had no idea how to take care of my hair until I met her
@Amphibax
@Amphibax 11 ай бұрын
To my knowledge Boss was just one company contracted to produce uniforms but they did not design them or were actively involved in other ways. And in those days as company just saying no wasn't really a viable option in the sense of either work with the regime or go out of business
@photokunstler
@photokunstler 10 ай бұрын
The Rick efffect is so cool to have available. We are spoiled having him around dishing out fresh, dope stuff every season. He still owns the company and has kept it small enough to be able to pivot when he feels the need to. I LOVE that about him. ⚫⚫⚫⚫⚫⚫⚫⚫🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
@jubbi
@jubbi 11 ай бұрын
I love how you actively make us learn!!
@balazs7235
@balazs7235 11 ай бұрын
It’s sort ot fun/thrilling to know that you just never know what comes and what leaves with Rick collections. I have been dying to get myself a tec shoulder something. Jackets are too much for me and I was waiting for the tops to go on sale. But of course, they sold out. He is known for bringing back old designs and then leaving them for a good few seasons, or even a decade. If I recall correctly, he already had a smaller version of the tec shoulders in the ‘03 SUCKERBALL collection. It was quite cool to see. But to my knowledge (I have just started watching every Rick show from the first to the most recent one), it was gone after that, or shortly after that only for it to return for some experimentation 2 decades later. It’s a blessing and a curse. However, with significant pieces such as the Tec shoulder or the Sneaks, they did and will get hype with every release and re-release if they were to be discontinued yet again. I am hoping the Lido shoulders are not the final form which will lead to its archival again.
@kitohhh
@kitohhh 11 ай бұрын
dude when are you gonna get on Throwing Fits? would be super interesting to hear you nerd out about straight up fashion with the boys and possibly challenge them in a fun way
@item_905
@item_905 11 ай бұрын
4:36 You said that out loud!🥳
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster 11 ай бұрын
Someone had to say it 😤
@marvinraphaelmonfort8289
@marvinraphaelmonfort8289 11 ай бұрын
love this ep, just chill. needed it after a tiring day spent mostly in third world traffic, partly for a needlessly expensive errand coz gov't suck. gonna say it again til it's the norm: fashion needs to grow ip and be eco so we can see the beauty of creativity for a much longer time also today years old when u said how to use linkedin correctly 😂😮😢😅
@davidbodrick1827
@davidbodrick1827 11 ай бұрын
I enjoy your content… 👏🏿👍🏿
@fitp2183
@fitp2183 11 ай бұрын
About thr last talkpoint, how do we feel about living brand owners wo are problematic (eg D&G) It sucks that I can't appreciate the talent without feeling guilty about sharing/supporting their social media (I'm not saying you can't consume these thigs guilt free and separate the art from the artists,just that I can't do it)
@xxx_these.flightless.wings_xxx
@xxx_these.flightless.wings_xxx 11 ай бұрын
This was exactly what I was thinking about during the video
@inlovewithgoats1092
@inlovewithgoats1092 11 ай бұрын
Some time ago I read an interesting essay in the routledge guidebook to fashion studies about nudity (I think that's what this book is called). The claim was that we are so used to wearing clothes that even being nude is an outfit. It's not done for no reason, but instead "worn" for a specific purpose, for example when ancient Greek athletes did their competitions nude.
@MaliceAttention
@MaliceAttention 11 ай бұрын
I've never this early. I love this channel
@tomlorea2656
@tomlorea2656 11 ай бұрын
the Problem with companies like chanel or hugo Boss is that they never "reworked" (aufarbeiten in german i dont know the english term) their involmend with the Nazi partie (as far as im aware). being open about this past and honestly regreting theese things hould be comman sense. maybe im biased because members of my family were imprisiond in concentration camps. Of course normal employees should not be hold accountable for the actions that the people 80 years ago did but they should be aware and taught baout that. love your vids btw
@yokchew90
@yokchew90 11 ай бұрын
Oh what do you think about karl lagerfeld designs? Never really seen you talk about him. I rmb watching karl talking about some designers being fake intellectual i wonder who are they and what he thinks abt margiela
@noahfeinberg
@noahfeinberg 11 ай бұрын
so good ❤
@jens4204
@jens4204 11 ай бұрын
Will you go to Amsterdam fashion week?
@thetacobasket6821
@thetacobasket6821 11 ай бұрын
I know nothing about fashion, and have never had a particular interest in fashion. However I found this extremely interesting and engaging, and I enjoyed the video quite a bit. +sub
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster 11 ай бұрын
Welcome in 💫💫
@goblinwizard735
@goblinwizard735 11 ай бұрын
“…i’m a model…” [queues ET image] 💀
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster 11 ай бұрын
👽 👽
@afrosymphony8207
@afrosymphony8207 11 ай бұрын
Repetitive isnt bad though, i really hate how in most places in the art world we've been sorta groomed into this idea that certain things like repetition is inherently bad nd theres no need to try engage with said art. it really just depends how its been used and what the aesthetic is imo, same in music.
@biaotoch
@biaotoch 11 ай бұрын
I know it’s the only way for some people, but sites are copying everything
@piercenigel4670
@piercenigel4670 10 ай бұрын
let's rethink this bag from the thumbnail!! it's the worst thing ever. i rant about it so much, my sister forbade me from talking about it. it's the dior book tote (!?). the "christian dior" across it is bigger than some street ads! it has nothing (like pockets or whatever) it's fully canvas and it costs $3500! and i went to the site, and you can see how crookedly sewn it is. and people are using it. in the streets. when i first saw it, i thought it was a packaging bag>something jokish>a one off. but people are wearing it!! it's serious. (thank you for coming.)
@photokunstler
@photokunstler 11 ай бұрын
Ummm are ya kidding, Rick has a very slow and methodical change and he works new ideas over a few years. That’s what I love about him - It’s new but it’s something he tweaked just a little this season etc etc
@tianrun_li.3dm
@tianrun_li.3dm 11 ай бұрын
Please talk about balenciaga couture fw 2023!!
@Ghost-jp5qn
@Ghost-jp5qn 11 ай бұрын
I'm thinking the same thing! As soon as he showed those clips in his video I immediately stopped to go watch the Balenciaga show. It was so interesting. I hope he makes a video about it!
@noaheogawa
@noaheogawa 11 ай бұрын
@blissfoster, could you discuss about the weird obsession that high fashion industry has with East Asian models? I can't help but to notice that the models from East Asia look like caricatures of what non East Asian people think how Asian people look like. It feels very intentional that this type of faces are constantly used in the Western fashion industry. What do you think?
@xxx_these.flightless.wings_xxx
@xxx_these.flightless.wings_xxx 11 ай бұрын
I personally think it comes from exoticism
@noaheogawa
@noaheogawa 11 ай бұрын
@@xxx_these.flightless.wings_xxx I see. So it’s the result of choosing to use models from East Asian who have the most non Western features who look as different as possible next to models from the West. Thank you!
@cheesequeenlordofallcheese
@cheesequeenlordofallcheese 11 ай бұрын
Fashion audiobooks I can't read please send help
@cheesequeenlordofallcheese
@cheesequeenlordofallcheese 11 ай бұрын
I'm typing this up with a reader and I have to edit it 500 times it's not fun
@afrosymphony8207
@afrosymphony8207 11 ай бұрын
today i learned how to pronounce iris van herpen
@aldogoegan3091
@aldogoegan3091 11 ай бұрын
🙌🙌🙌
@user-fq3vr8vi6f
@user-fq3vr8vi6f 11 ай бұрын
Can someone please tell me is it NECESSARY to learn to sew if you wanna be a fashonw designer???
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster 11 ай бұрын
Yes? 🤔 I’m confused, why would it not be necessary?
@xxx_these.flightless.wings_xxx
@xxx_these.flightless.wings_xxx 11 ай бұрын
Learning how to sew is not necessarily as hard as you'd think tho, it takes a couple of tutorials, some intuition and a shit ton of trial and error
@Urban_Piggy
@Urban_Piggy 10 ай бұрын
Oh boy, if you have the patience, go for it. My sewing is shit. But I had a good eye. So if you’re like me and you think you could do it well, without hiring out, then great. I gave up on all of it-years ago. I don’t know if I should have…but here we are. But here’s the thing. Do you need a couple of glasses of wine to get through sewing a zipper into a mini skirt? I did! Lol! It’s a good test. And a zipper never appeared.
@Emperor_5
@Emperor_5 11 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 ah, this one's gonna be good
@KittenKake
@KittenKake 10 ай бұрын
not the unfashionable millennial talking
@__ag
@__ag 10 ай бұрын
Agree on Chanel. However, regarding Dolce & Gabbana - I find it disgusting that they are still successful and so many renowned people in the fashion world still choose to work with them
@ashleylfv_8felizvasquez576
@ashleylfv_8felizvasquez576 11 ай бұрын
Could you recommend me some fashion books? Other than the Chanel you just presented here.
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster 11 ай бұрын
Gods and Kings by Dana Thomas 💫💫
@iAnon666
@iAnon666 11 ай бұрын
Instructions unclear googled: “what is a job title“
@Fuckedreflection
@Fuckedreflection 11 ай бұрын
Chanel would be proud of Nike Simple feedback loops
@mrotaveria
@mrotaveria 11 ай бұрын
or Yeezy
@morpheuslaughing
@morpheuslaughing 11 ай бұрын
@@mrotaveria little did we know Ye's biggest inspiration was Adolf Hitler all along
@tinarieck322
@tinarieck322 11 ай бұрын
Who can fill us in about the hookah bus situation?
@judegabbard2081
@judegabbard2081 27 күн бұрын
Rick Owen's clothes are so unwearable.
@user-zq1xc4mn3w
@user-zq1xc4mn3w 11 ай бұрын
Then do you know why Chanel was not prosecuted for this after the war?
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster 11 ай бұрын
From the second paragraph of her wiki page: “After the war, Chanel was interrogated about her relationship with Dincklage, but she was not charged as a collaborator due to intervention by British prime minister Winston Churchill. When the war ended, Chanel moved to Switzerland, returning to Paris in 1954 to revive her fashion house.”
@user-zq1xc4mn3w
@user-zq1xc4mn3w 11 ай бұрын
@@BlissFoster Then, why would Churchhill bail out a nazi if the person was indeed a nazi?
@MarianaK-ew8yn
@MarianaK-ew8yn 6 ай бұрын
Karl was a raging misogynist.
@magnusguzman907
@magnusguzman907 11 ай бұрын
Yea I was here too
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster 11 ай бұрын
First 💫💫
@missantropa519
@missantropa519 11 ай бұрын
Por que é tão cafona também?
@felipegarcia487
@felipegarcia487 11 ай бұрын
why do fashion critics never dress well? Lol they should critique themselves
@i123456987654
@i123456987654 11 ай бұрын
lol maybe i should be a fashion critic too
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster 11 ай бұрын
Hell yea 🦾 Start a channel and send me your first video 💫💫
@Josh-tw1gw
@Josh-tw1gw 11 ай бұрын
U should be my therapist
@JellyFlavoredGerman
@JellyFlavoredGerman 11 ай бұрын
On Gabrielle Chanel: She didn't live in Germany, but she did live in Nazi occupied France. A normal citizen may be able to get away with having private misgivings about the Nazis but someone as high profile as Chanel would be under a lot of pressure to toe the party line. Under a fascist dictatorship people do despicable things to stay alive. I don't think this excuses her actions, but I think it's important to put her actions within their proper context. We don't know what her true motivations were, but we do know that she chose not to stand up to fascism when it would surely mean death. I'm not sure how many people would. I have a bad case of can't-keep-my-mouth-shut, but I still don't know what I would do in that situation.
@BlissFoster
@BlissFoster 11 ай бұрын
Hi Paul, I’m going to need you to cite some sources here. Chanel *chose* to date a Nazi officer, she *chose* to live at the Ritz Carlton (the occupying nazi forces’ headquarters) and she *chose* to gather information for Operation Modelhut. Where are you reading that she had no choice? Christian Dior was the same level of fame and was adamantly anti-nazi, no one “made him toe the party line” and it is the same with Chanel. It worries me a lot that every time I publicly say Coco Chanel was a Nazi, someone spreads misinformation in the comments.
@kristaclark447
@kristaclark447 11 ай бұрын
I could be wrong about this, however: If a model was hired to walk a runway, they must do so, iregards to how they are costumed -- specifically, to receive their paycheck. If something goes horribly wrong, a designer may have to make the decision to pull the garment from the show. They cannot costume the model in any type of garment which the designer did not design: that is a falsehood and could be considered fashion plagiarism, believe it or not. There might not be another garment available at that moment! Showing a garment which was already placed on another model is absoluete blasphemy (it's an insult to the previous model). Unless the designer is trying to make a statement / mentions it as inspiration for the clothing line: this may be why that occurs. Yes, it is irrational.
@danielvonweinberger799
@danielvonweinberger799 11 ай бұрын
You told me then to private instagram you. I did. But you never reacted . Also good.
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