Marc Jacobs was fired from Perry Ellis after his Spring 1993 Grunge runway show. Or was he? If you love the channel, support on Patreon: / blissfoster Follow me on IG: / blissfoster Follow me on Twitter: / blissfoster
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@Indigololz2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how simple runway shows could be in the 90s. You should do a video on the evolution of the fashion show and how it's become more theatrical / elaborate over time.
@WonderingTree2 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree!
@Indigololz2 жыл бұрын
@@WonderingTree The looks themselves too! So simple, but chic.
@dantedlane2 Жыл бұрын
90s was a better time ,nowadays the models have no personality and if they do it’s a branding personality back in the day models had their own style
@Angel-ts8rc10 ай бұрын
This isn’t entirely true, there was plenty of theatrical shows and crazy couture in the 90s/2000’s and there’s plenty of plain, boring and simple stuff today. Perhaps certain brands or designers have made that evolution
@lastdays91632 жыл бұрын
"in the first look when the model takes off her trench..." GURL how dare you! That's Christy Nicole Turlington Burns 😵
@word420692 жыл бұрын
That picture of Marc at 2:04 lives rent free in my mind at all times.. it is prime NYC style and attitude. I feel like Marc is respected and given credit but I don’t think people really grasp how important he was for fashion from the 90s through the 2010s. Also his “Heaven” line is so nostalgic for Millennials and resonating with Gen Z.
@yvngchildsupport95232 жыл бұрын
there’s always been something so playful and youthful about Marc. to where even in his 50s he still holds to the young roots of his brand
@2baa3 Жыл бұрын
marc’s heaven capmiagn is stolen and unoriginal mostly
@lula4408 Жыл бұрын
@@2baa3 i just watched a video on that
@ntsakomathebula48402 жыл бұрын
I'm in tears, when you put Marc's grungway show next to those nirvana and Co clips, it make Jacob's work look SHEIN or MNML. But hey if you don't live an lifestyle it merely becomes an Aesthetic. Me and Supreme circa 2017
@maxsimgue97642 жыл бұрын
It really was an awesome runway
@inkumoon5152 жыл бұрын
I remember Courtney love talking about grunge fashion and how marc and Anna never got the full gist. She then went on to say Hedi slimane's YSL hit the nail on the head so...idk how to take that either.
@BlissFoster2 жыл бұрын
Emotionally conflicting!
@inkumoon5152 жыл бұрын
@@BlissFoster emotionally, spiritually, physically conflicting. I didn't live laugh love the energy she created
@Salmiyaguy12 жыл бұрын
Anna Sui did a whole grunge show one year and critics trashed it as jumping on the bandwagon with not one original design. Michael Gross called it the ugliest or worst collection of the whole season.
@angelsunlight Жыл бұрын
Courtney can be silly that way
@fkapranda60482 жыл бұрын
As someone who is obsessed with both fashion and grunge music, I loved this video! I just think it's funny that even though Courtney initially hated the collection to the point of "burning" it, she now appears to be good friends with Marc and is often seen attending his shows and such. She also got super mad at Vetements for copying one of Kurt's shirt that said "corporate magazines still suck", but she didn't mind Marc's redux grunge collection, I wonder why 🤔 Anyways, Marc also casted Coco Gordon Moore (daughter of Kim and Thurston from Sonic Youth) as a model for the redux collection, which I thought was so cute! Ok I'm done geeking, thank you for the video!!
@BlissFoster2 жыл бұрын
Some great context here! Thank you!
@afrosymphony82072 жыл бұрын
props to marcs for putting that behind him, i'd never forgotten about such a thing, its probably the most disrespectful that'd ever been done to a designer.
@conradvreelandyoko2 жыл бұрын
She wasn’t kool with him appropriating grunge
@Ilykillll2 жыл бұрын
You should do more videos about the commercialization of subculture and its commpression into “aesthetic”
@calebgasca2 жыл бұрын
Especially with a focus of blue collar subcultures such as skate, skinhead(not the racist version the real version), and workwear
@sharkpopsharkie Жыл бұрын
there actually is one it's his punk is dead video it got me into his channel and is hands down my favorite
@theespottedgiraffe_53682 жыл бұрын
High fashion stuff with birkenstocks?! rick?!
@BizarreSummer2 жыл бұрын
This man was an alumni from my high school and it’s dirty that my school doesn’t recognize him at all. They’ll recognize a producer on LOST that came from my school but not a man who has changed fashion for a lot of people
@BlissFoster2 жыл бұрын
Wtf really? I would think they’d be advertising that a lot 🤔
@fashiondolldreamer2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!!!! FINALLY!!!! Someone on here who got the story right! I was actually 'there' in the fashion biz at the time and this was absolutely right-on. People forget that there were actually a few designers showing 'grunge' that season (but I do remember loving Marc's the best at the time,) ... I even remember jousting with my EIC to get it on the cover of our 'collections' issue!.... even though personally, I actually didn't like that whole 'grunge' thing going on back then, because I felt it was a bit of a let-down and even quite boring, as those were essentially the same things my friends and I wore for years throughout college and stuff, (albeit in more expensive fabrics!) and I had just gotten into the fashion biz at the time to get away from all that, so I wanted G-L-A-M-O-U-R!!!!! LOL ... but we saw the significance of it right away. But as you noted, many in the fashion press didn't at the time, especially the big guns. Everything was very much 'status quo' and the runway had it's own set of rules as to what one could and couldn't show, which had been set in stone for years at that point. But we were young, plucky things at the time, so we 'got' it. It wasn't so much the 'grunge' theme that was important. (My EIC called it 'window dressing' ... and yes, it was not quite the 'real deal', but a 'fashion-ised' version of it,) It was the fact that it was the 'break' needed from the hyper-coordinated, extremely tailored, and yes 'glamourous' fashion that came just before. Suddenly, there was a 'freedom' in fashion where you could mix any proportion, any fabric, any garment you liked - and the more 'vintage' looking, the more personal looking, the better. And yes, the 'high-low' aesthetic that we all take for granted today.... that was UNHEARD of on the international runways at the time. (As I said, the runways played to a very different set of rules back then that I don't think the current generation can even fathom. Even up to that point in the early 90's, a designer collection had to look and be presented a certain way, or else it wasn't considered 'credible' at all....) I remember that 'free' attitude significantly affected the mainstream market for many years after that... and still does in a way, especially with the whole 90's redux thing happening. And YES!!!! I was also working for a big fashion trade paper at the time, so I also knew that the honchos at Perry Ellis were definitely changing strategy (which I might add, was in the works LONG before that spring '93 show,) and did indeed support his 'comeback' with his own label, - even financially to some extent! - so it didn't really seem like an acrimonious 'firing', though that's what passed into history. GAWD I feel old! and my post was WAY too long :P
@Americansikkunt2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting! Very insightful
@kainebaleurhd28152 жыл бұрын
bro is 32 out here looking 25
@floatinghead53922 жыл бұрын
32 and 25 don't look much different.
@kevintowers80062 жыл бұрын
I thought he was in his early 20s
@daniellord-vera69872 жыл бұрын
got me crying from laughing so hard when the bloody nose happened and then plugged the patrion I love the comedic effect
@agentnea2 жыл бұрын
A+ tier comedy
@michellewouters3282 жыл бұрын
as someone who was a teen in the 80s and coming up in the 90s in my 20s, it was an incredible era! I am pleased to say I have a pair of vintage Perry Ellis men's trousers that still fit me like a glove!
@HipsterChainsaw2 жыл бұрын
as somebody who is friends with a former Marc Jacobs brand employee (who was working the Chicago store in the early 2000’s) and has listened to Tremaine Emory talk in great detail about his personal career at Marc Jacobs, I love hearing about his earlier moves in this detail, great video Bliss.
@sachaehn4924Ай бұрын
I remember that show. That very event changed everything! Everyone and their Grandma was wearing grunge after Jacob's runway.
@MollyPorter2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, I saw grunge as a reaction to hair metal, not punk. Punk wasn’t really mainstream in the late 80s. My friends and I loved grunge because it honored the punk ethos. Hair metal was extremely corporate. Nevermind changed everything overnight. Made everything else seem even more stale and trite than it already did. This was how I experienced it anyway.
@Ilykillll2 жыл бұрын
Bliss i thought you were like 25-27💀
@baatile2 жыл бұрын
Me too…. 💀
@florenciarichter42772 жыл бұрын
i'm a fashion student from argentina i discover your chanel a few weeks ago and i already think you're the best
@ophilianecr Жыл бұрын
Okay! That isaac mizrahi quote was hilarious. 😂 Yesterday, my husband went out and saw some dudes with questionable fashion, and his first thought was "it made me want to go up and just shout "Why aren't you eating rotten chicken, then!?!"". 😂🤣😆 and just walk away without further explanation😉. That quote has really stuck and we bring it up every time we don't like an outfit.🤣😆😂
@rockinmom89192 жыл бұрын
New to your channel! Like your explanation of Marc Jacob’s history in the fashion world and grunge fashion. Great job!
@Ñino.dorado2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Keep pushing!
@everlastingspirit2232 жыл бұрын
Love this, Bliss. Thank you 👏🏾
@hellobecky842 жыл бұрын
I was a magazine-obsessed NYC teen during this era and honestly thought I knew the story of Marc's infamous grunge show pretty much inside out. Learned and reconsidered a few things from your video though; great work.
@Act-Normal2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video per usual! ❤
@jztouch2 жыл бұрын
This was such a long time ago and it’s hard to imagine how people might have been upset about this collection at the time but I remember when grunge came on the scene and I despised it because it seemed to be killing glamour. Looking back at this collection now it looks very chic.
@hl60162 жыл бұрын
Love ur shorts!
@shelbyhiromi2 жыл бұрын
when you said "sitting on the floor, thats so lame" I was like "hey, im sitting on the floor... wait hey, Bliss is also on the floor"
@gee_emm2 жыл бұрын
I remember getting up at 5am to watch this show on Video Fashion, a few weeks after it came out. I was very into glamour, but I loved the deconstructed broken down appeal of grunge, how accessible it was, and how it could kind of neutralize your sexuality. That said, it wasn't actually that new. It had begun in the eighties, with art students turned pop stars wearing out size tailored pieces, huge jackets and Tees with headbands, torn knits and scruffed up blow dried hair. A kind of non-look look. I don't know what you'd call - but think early Bananarama. I think that's where grunge actually started. Nothing new under the sun I guess. What a fun trip you've taken me down memory lane.
@averytien22272 жыл бұрын
Thank you for what you do Bliss
@margoriazantseva44712 жыл бұрын
This is a great episode from you Bliss and it made me laught because i'm a former journalist myself and i can tell you how these "legends" are born. Unindependent journalist are followers. They follow already existant inclinations of their potential readers. I't not a secret that people love drama and scandals))) So i promise you that it wasn't a misunderstanding from journalists but DELIBERATE misinterepretations of facts. Thank you for bringing this story under the light of real facts. Lol, it's hard to believe that even Suzy was trying to militate against grunge)) Even best of the best are not safe from being biased once in a blue moon))
@icecoldlilly2 жыл бұрын
Can you do an episode about Junya Watanabe?
@qwertyboo2 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with Isaac but I get and understand his opinion.
@Avievan912 жыл бұрын
Love your research into this and digging your grunge look 😉
@Devananta-Rafiq2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq needs more Marc Jacob related videos, thank you!
@lastdays91632 жыл бұрын
I watched the show on FTV at the time and it was scandal for days. There was a lot of high drama shows in the 90s and that was definitely one of them. Marc kind of took it from both ends because the collection was totally rejected by the street. No one I knew at the time would go near it with a million foot pole. Wearing runway during the age of grunge was a definite no. No one even talked about fashion, i was definitely odd man out for even giving a shit. It was all thrift all the time. The only thing you wore new was undies, socks and occasionally shoes. It was probably thee most eco friendly fashion movement of all time.
@soniastarmorales80132 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Points to how street/everyday fashion inspires designers.
@ayannam97412 жыл бұрын
Love that your shirt is matching the vibe today
@kyledimick84082 жыл бұрын
Loving your fit in this video.
@redmagicbarrier2 жыл бұрын
Bliss, I'm sure you may have read Champagne Supernova, or know of it. From what I recall, I thought his H addiction was one of the reasons he got sacked from Perry Ellis (not necessarily the grunge collection).
@falafeldealer03612 жыл бұрын
wait what??? u are never 32 bro
@gregdahlen4375 Жыл бұрын
grunge actually looked exotic to me. for one thing all the guys had long hair which is exotic in America. And the mix of guys with long cool-looking hair and kinda "dad" clothes like Kurt's sweaters was exotic. I'm not sure what women in grunge were doing back then. I think they may have been doing something different from the guys. It'd be a good topic for someone.
@mal-qb1mh2 жыл бұрын
love you!thank you!
@getrealnow73 Жыл бұрын
you never fail to impress. You used the proper term "died of aids complications" bravo to you and a great review of this issue
@BlissFoster Жыл бұрын
I’ve only ever heard the phrase “died of aids complications” 🤔 what would be the alternative?
@getrealnow73 Жыл бұрын
@@BlissFoster uneducated people generally say “died of aids” I was born in 63 and lived through the dark times of the epidemic in NYC
@BlissFoster Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry you had to live through that, must have been a nightmare 😕
@getrealnow73 Жыл бұрын
❤️
@johntucker93262 жыл бұрын
Informing. Thanks!
@noursaccount2 жыл бұрын
thank u for this
@jgalt50022 жыл бұрын
Flash back 1990's i worked at very high end department store. I would walk in with a vintage ratty leather coat doc martins and floral dresses ( i had a light grunge look ) I was among very high fashion looking staff .Oh I remember and miss thoose days !!
@haku_oi2 жыл бұрын
please, if your nose is bleeding. do not recline ur head. it's bad
@BlissFoster2 жыл бұрын
This is actually super true. Don’t tilt your head back, folks 💫💫
@serendipity12732 жыл бұрын
Lmaoo love your vids.
@fergusmitch84972 жыл бұрын
awesome vid and awesome hair
@acpunkhardcore2 жыл бұрын
I just wondering if u can cover some information on why Marc Jacobs left from Louis Vuitton and closing down his own Marc by Marc Jacobs line. Marc Jacobs was a success during he's time with French brand Louis Vuitton and he also was well known to his own brand Marc Jacobs and Marc by Marc Jacobs line. My question until now I don't haven't find any clue or info why he left LVMH and why he close his own MMJ. I did read from the press regarding on his statement when he left LVMH with his last show in SS 2014. But the rest of the story remain mystery!
@getrealnow73 Жыл бұрын
Donna Karen also showed a grung collection and it didn't retail well as her customer was used to more tailored looks from her.
@tres5533 Жыл бұрын
I lived in WV in the mid-90's and would see Isaac at our local wine store frequently located by the Bar Six restaurant. We chatted about his comment. He is so animated and we had a ball discussing the down fall of everyday elegance in society although I defended Marc's collection. Missed those fun times.
@sgear502 жыл бұрын
I wrote my Dissertation on this!
@aliciateele43272 жыл бұрын
Bliss Foster, you are amazing!
@yassercastillo26072 жыл бұрын
He did say on an interview with Naomi that he was fired because of the financial issues Perry was having.
@HarryCopperPot Жыл бұрын
As an ol' Gen-Xer, I remember this collection when it came out and it felt kind of cringe at the time for those of us in the music scene. However, looking at the clothes now, I think it's a very wearable "re-interpretation" of grunge perfect for our current time that I would absolutely wear now. I desperately want the long floral dress Helena Christensen is wearing in this!
@badakunzi18262 жыл бұрын
good video as ever
@Musi.Kalisch2 жыл бұрын
Amazing outfit this video, dude :)))
@cysco485 Жыл бұрын
I like your video but your house is amazing ! Where u from bro ?
@sickonshimmer Жыл бұрын
I love how you talk about the fashion industry like it's an animal lmao
@bl4ckmagic3452 жыл бұрын
This just reminded me of the Robert crumb documentary that is a whole entire psychological rollercoaster in itself.
@arabellajane36522 жыл бұрын
Hi i love your videos
@jordandement85602 жыл бұрын
How do you feel about coach getting called out for damaging their unsold products? While still running a “don’t ditch it, repair it.” Campaign.
@forget3817 Жыл бұрын
I think you missed the major criticism of grunge fashion as well as a major aspect of that time period. Grunge clothes were not what people wore when they were not performing on stage. Grunge clothes were cheap clothes that were all those people could afford. The major criticism of Jacobs' collection was that he took clothes that were cheap and put high price tags on them.
@gwendolineflo38242 жыл бұрын
what 32??? i‘m confused you look at least six years younger and without the glasses?!
@ledadimarti2 жыл бұрын
What an interesting video! ⚡⚡⚡⚡ well done Blisssss!
@FFVII2 жыл бұрын
32??? Damn I thought u were 25 or sumn
@madelinegrudens Жыл бұрын
I would wear those clothes now... I bet they would sell out, but honestly I don't see grunge at all, just meh styling... Great insight and more importantly the facts!!!
@zook838Ай бұрын
“When the model”. *The Christy Turlington, respectfully.
@dovelugosi Жыл бұрын
I understand the Sonic Youth music video now thank you !
@bluBlaq332 жыл бұрын
The grunge movement itself hated that runway show because it was anti-fashion on a runway. Marc Jacobs was inspired by popular brands of the time. They saw something they believed was sacred, real, and “for us by us” and saw this as an attack on the movement. Like how the mainstream sorta killed punk by referencing it. As a Rocker myself at age 29, and a lover of fashion, it’s still frowned upon by underground punk & Metal culture to “like fashion” u sorta keep that too yourself.
@MelanieJermeleWhite2 жыл бұрын
I love your hairstyle
@miriamzirato1024 Жыл бұрын
1st misconception on how to react to a bloody nose: -leaning back / tilting the neck and head back in an effort to stop the bleed from dripping down on your designer clothes. This method invariably causes blood and mucus to run down the back of he throat and inevitably end up in the stomach- this will for sure make you sick and nauseous ----***instead, one should grab a tissue and lean forward.***
@temidayohakai97372 жыл бұрын
"sitting on the floor, that's so lame" *sits on floor*
@felicecinque2 жыл бұрын
Nooo that picture of Courtney Love was far from '93. More like late '99 early 2000.
@anderswenell27652 жыл бұрын
Hair lookin good champ
@Merdle3 ай бұрын
The infamous bloody nose episode.
@iwannaseethereceipts2 жыл бұрын
I literally wore Perry Ellis boots from when I worked at Marshall's *today*
@artusyeddou57922 жыл бұрын
Dis not know a shit about this whole story, thank you so much !
@thatcandont2 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched like 20 vids, they won’t stop recommending this one, fine!
@nativeandtribe2 жыл бұрын
Dude you are an absolute blessing !! Thanks for all that you do 👨🌾
@pw64862 жыл бұрын
dont you mean he's rather a blissing? badum tsss
@nativeandtribe2 жыл бұрын
@@pw6486 yes that to 💕
@gregdahlen4375 Жыл бұрын
if they did fire marc wouldn't it be strange because the larger company would have had many chances to approve or disapprove his designs before they went on the runway?
@thr33forty4 Жыл бұрын
that shirts fire
@LAUGHINGBUDDHAVORTEX2 жыл бұрын
you are smart & I love you
@DreBars2 жыл бұрын
also how old were models in teh 90s, they seem 25ish, now its really like 16
@maxglendale76142 жыл бұрын
Marc Jacobs' collection pieces were not necessarily "Grunge"; however, the styling (i.e. layering, accessories, messy coiffure, and makeup) was Grunge Like.
@Sonicsis Жыл бұрын
increase your mic volume when you record please!
@louiscampos9606 Жыл бұрын
grunge was straight leg jeans, ring t-shirt, flannel shirt and converse sneakers. that Courtney pic was from the 2003 I think.
@Aluenvey10 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say high fashion and birkenstocks is my thing. More like mid tier and birkenstocks. Mall Goth is maybe uncharitable way of putting. But more like if you blended Hippy, Goth, and a smidgen of Cyberpunk. It's mind blowing that one guy even tried grunge in the runway industry.
@dellplummer51732 жыл бұрын
Brilliant... wonderful! 😁
@bimblaq2 жыл бұрын
i had to laugh at this Marc Jacobs pastel grunge interpretation
@parreyany94232 жыл бұрын
No one perfect. Everyone has golden time and shit time. Nobody will be forever. Everything comes and gone. It is life.
@bluegypsy712 жыл бұрын
😃In a weird turn of grunge/indie music scene overlapping fashion/art imitating life, Sonic Youth goddess Kim Gordon had a short lived fashion line in the early 90’s.
@mukunimulundika53592 жыл бұрын
Oh Isaac where are you now.
@ickimadrasi89652 жыл бұрын
He was fired from Ann Klein also
@Richieverse Жыл бұрын
You weren’t there. This was majorly news worthy.. set a trend for futures to come…
@BlissFoster Жыл бұрын
Ahhhh someone didn’t watch the video 👀
@alphawhore2 жыл бұрын
10:55 dying
@i_is_here80002 жыл бұрын
was looking for this comment )
@arthurvandeputte78982 жыл бұрын
love bliss
@iwannaseethereceipts2 жыл бұрын
Also Patreon plug during a nosebleed is icon behavior