its mindblowing that they find certain spots (like a wreckage or a meeting point) in this endless area, even before GPS came

That feeling when you are checking your bag...epirb, yup..water, yup..shark repellant, yup...😅

Yes, it was an unusual way to heave too, but it worked well, and as the wind built was kind of glad we didn't have the deep reefed main up, as she would probably have been a overcanvassed. Having just the storm jib also made it easy to get underway and run off, or forereach when the wind shifted.

And one year later another thank you for skipping the soundtrack. Majestic.

Yes My thoughts exactly. Gosh the awful music people play at times is ridiculous

Oh yes!

Times like this U better believe in your boat ! Time to promise if U get out of this U will be a better person.

Why didnt they set main sail? its not safe or something?

Thanks. Sounds like fun times. I bet those meter boats would be comfortable in a blow, as long as you didn't mind getting wet, or rolling heavily.

Its always good to get out in bad weather when you have a safe harbour and dropping winds. Refine your systems so when you get caught out you are ready for it. How the retirement going?

just remember fastnet

Not "earthlings" but "landlubbers" will never understand.

@@ESHANABROOK Sorry Eric but 'landlubber' is literally translated as 'fresh water sailor'. Which I consider rather insulting for canal sailors, who have their merits. I meant somebody who only knows earth because refuse to raise his eyes. Infact I am convinced that the difference between a sailor and a 'terricolous' being is that when just out of the door the peasant looks down to the earth, while the sailor looks at the horizon.

@@squalofelice well said! "the difference between a sailor and a 'terricolous' being is that when just out of the door the peasant looks down to the earth, while the sailor looks at the horizon."

Running from a bear through a stand of thin pole saplings.

You mean lake bede bop?

Yep Petrov's Defence blown wide open!

have you moved since the riots?

Try lake Michigan or superior lol

lol

Would you please let me know what you mean by "heaving to"? I have limited training and experience but saw no heaving to in this vid as I learned it. Thanks!

RIDING THE WVES AND REMAINING STILL

Heaving too, is really any way of using the sails and rudder to stop the boat, typically it is down on modern boats with a backed headsail and a main, and the tiller to leeward, ie steering the boat upwind. but there are lots of variations, Some boats heave too with just a main, square riggers back the fore topsail. In this case we just backed the headsail but dropped the main. the boat doesn't sit with the bow up, but it is a stable attitude.

Thx for the straight coverage of rough sailing conditions while having time to play chess. Cool footage. It keeps you feel alive #bentucker Would like to see more of it.

Thanks Hans, I need to get some sort of half decent editor for this new computer then I will have a look through some of my old footage. it isn't going to happen in any hurry I am afraid.

The skipper Dave Pryce is one of the most experienced sailors I have sailed with. I learnt a lot from him.

Strong wind, but not a storm.

It must've really ducked in the interim

9:34 What my daughter fears most..right there. Glad to see safety harnesses hooked up. That's sailing. What a great life you all have. Thanks for letting me watch and learn

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I love how all these numb nuts have a long line tied to bow/stern... IF you fall overboard the forces will snap that line in a heart beat at one end, leaving the other anchored. YOU must use a prussic or equivalent which will GRAB the rope. A biner, shackle etc going around the rope from bow/stern does you NO GOOD AT ALL! You are pretending you are safe.

w8stral can you explain more? Or is there a photo or video of what you mean?

Simple physics. And sorry, no, I can't find this written up anywhere modern. So, a bit convoluted: Division of forces. smaller the angle, the higher the forces. Why a line from bow to stern and you slipping in the middle is very dangerous as the forces are EXTREMELY high and one end will break. Those who know what they are doing attach that line in the middle/ends. Now you CANNOT use a single biner to slide down the line, you must have 2 so you can go around middle attachment points while still remaining tied in. This is how all catwalk lines are set up or you MUST have a self tending belay device when doing rope work. You WILL slip. Only a question of when. Physics: Lets assume a 200lb(person+gear) person(static), line length of 30ft and fall distance to water ~5 ft. Most boats making ocean passage are longer, so it makes it even worse... Makes a triangle with 15ft by 5 ft. Creates an angle of 18 degrees and a corresponding tensile force of 668lbs X2 for both sides of the angle = static load of 1336lbs. Now add dynamic forces Can easily have 2G which doubles the force + momentum! So static is 2500lbs... no big deal for a normal rope. But what is it tied to? Handrail with small little screws tying into the boat? Most likely. If tied to main cleat, no big deal. Now, lets add momentum. 5ft fall attains a ~5ft/s velocity attaining a momentum of around 250 additional lbs load that must be stopped. The momentum alone more than doubles the force of the static load from just the weight of the person+gear. So, each end of the rope sees over 5000lbs of force... Now, IF you are using a dynamic rope going bow to stern, it will stretch ~30%, massively decreasing momentum force and static force cutting it in half, BUT here is the rub, no one wants a dynamic rope on a boat as they suck for using on sails etc. Boating uses 100% static lines which means elongation due to a class one load is on the order of ~2% ==> 7% depending on the rope in question. Effectively there is no load alleviation. What this means is that the rope in question will see a near instantaneous 5000lbs load at BOTH ends. Now, 1) the Ropes used for what most people consider "low loads" generally this is small. So, lets take a standard ~9mm or1/2" NEW*** line. Its rated breaking strength is rated at ~7000lbs.... BUT, it must be tied to something. Even the best knot, etc to a biner/shackle, etc will remove 30% of its rated strength. Now add that the rope used going forward is also probably old and its breaking strength is NOT like it is new. 7000 - 7000*(0.3) =~ 4500lbs with the additional problem of AGE making the rope brittle, wear(nics etc), UV, and the problem that said rope will also be going over some edges when you fall ..... Is the side of your boat a perfect radius? Or are there some sharpish edges somewhere which will increase the stress locally? Either way... You are going in the drink under a full heal over scenario. Now obviously most people do not slip and go flying, but a 45 degree roll or greater in a massive storm, knockdown? Quite likely. Single line bow to stern is horrifically dangerous but is common practice today. People forget that old sail boats(100+ yrs) during storms used to set up cross hatch of ropes to grab and move along on deck making the distance on a rope to anchor point, SHORT. And sorry, no, I can't find this written up anywhere modern. @@drcalvinmb

Thanks. Glad you could see a glimpse of the wonderful wild southern ocean. Though its also often sunny and pleasant. The contrasts are part of what makes it a special place.

The Souther Ocean is not always roaring gales. Try it.

What’s heaving to? Many thanks

@@gdfggggg Its when you position the rudder to tack, but don’t move the “forward” sail to the other side. This situation “locks” the boat in position, and it starts to drift sideways, with the bow pointed in an angle towards the wind and the incoming waves.

@@gdfggggg I suppose the best description of that, as Lin & Larrey Pardey name it, “safety valve” is their pointed narrative “Storm Tactics” which you can find both as printed book and DVD.

what's an anchor rode like that for and ? why's it so long and how does it work ? and just asking how did they Hove to did they just turn into the wind ?

@@sailingyoumeandjosapea6770 They tacked the boat but not the storm jib. This caused the storm jib to be backed, you then steer the rudder windward lock it in and you are hove to.

@Jay lol 🤣 thumbs Up

Very true, I am not sure about heaving to as an ultimate storm technique, but it is a comfortable way to hold station and park up.

Thank you David, that's a great quote! I wonder if any of today's leaders are going to be quoted like those of the past? Cheers

Well said David. Well said.

I hove to once. I was single handing. I did not want to subject the autopilot to the strain and I didn’t want to run in the wrong direction. I was exhausted. I had never done it. It worked miraculously well. I went to sleep. I awoke in a couple of hours in better weather.

Well said sir.

Very well said indeed! This is badass.

It was a brilliant trip. Thanks for making it happen.

It thought about resting a while on their slight (though trusty) boat then thought better of it and flew on . . .

Marilyn Cook They were on bare poles,notbear poles

Thanks. Certainly David Pryce ran a very organised and safe yacht.

Absolutely right. The camera doesn't do justice to the shear majesty and wildness of the scene.

For real, you should check out the rafting video I have of going through a 20 foot hole

strake750 The timeline is not very clear in the video. I cant remember for sure but we had been hove too for a few hours before that wave, and we were hove to for a few hours after it as well. We started handsteering once the wind settled down and backed more to the west. Had we been hand steering we may have been able to put the wave more on the stern, but holding position enabled the front to quickly pass over us, and running off would have put us further south. Thanks for the question.

She is an awesome ship. Always felt 100% safe on her.

Not "sailing" when all sails are furled or bagged. Running before the wind under bare poes is closer to the facts.

Ever thought of land sailing in the flats? They do it with trikes w/windsurfing rigs

nerve wracking just thinking about it.

I watched it 15 times didn’t see anything than again about 10 times because I was pissed.

​@@thebear6529you didn't see the bird? Do you wear glasses? 😂

@@thisoldboat7393 i wear glasses, have them off, even i saw the bird, thought for a second it was a drone cause of the noise of the wind generator.

Thanks, it was interesting seeing the slick, though it didn't stop the bigger breakers, I feel the slick reduced the amount of smaller seas that hit us significantly.

The slicks technical name is *Von Karman Vortex street*

Glad you enjoyed the trip, that was the year before this trip. All the best to you to!

The French Legend Bernard Moitessier sailed his 38' twin masted Joshua through the Southern Ocean and around Cape Horn many times. Additionally Robin Knox Johnston who was the first to do a non-stop Global Circumnavigation in his boat Suhaili, a 32' wooden ketch, made several trips through the Southern Ocean and around the Horn. It is very doable for an experienced sailor in much smaller boats.

I sailed my 33 foot steel sloop to antarctica a few years before this trip. See snow petrel down under on youtube for a video of this trip. But it was much more comfortable on the bigger boat. Bernard Motessier is a legend!

@@Reaper-cm4jr yeah, doable but in those winds, given the choice....

Dave Pryce is a legend. I would have just stuffed the sail down the hatch. He folded it!

For me it was a squall in Biscayne Bay Miami. Thought my Dad was going overboard pulling down the jib. It was dark & i was trying to figure where I would swim to. Knew I was going to Die ! Thank You Jesus

@@GarySmith-up1un The foredeck is certainly a dangerous location especially in heavy weather and changing sails in the dark.Worse still when it gets exhausting and you’re feeling lousy! Life jacket and strong light plus double clipped harness essential!

I am 63 and at the age where....I have lived a good life of service and would take on something as this. If fate had it that I be lost...so be it.

Curly Joe did it with a couple of squirts of lubricating oil out a porthole, from an oil can. (Three Stooges)

Bello !

I guess your skipper didn't check the forcast! Sounds like a nasty experience. You have to have been in it to know what it's like, one part exhilarating, one part terrifying, and one part uncomfortable, and yes, it does make you realise how powerful nature is when it wants to be.

@@bentucker5009 Agreed. I was in a 3 day gale on the Flemish Cap one November, on an oceanographic research ship 100 metres in length, and that was crazy enough...to go through a big storm in a small boat would be terrifying and thrilling all at once.

Harbour Geezer that’s not a very small boat maybe 50 feet

@@endallbeall1211 All things being relative, 50 foot in the vast open wastes of the Roaring Forties is pretty small. I'd do it in a second though.

Harbour Geezer I’m sailing the ocean on 30 feet bro........

Saint777 Martyrdom Thanks. I tried to film it and it certainly helped calm the smaller seas. But it did nothing to stop the bigger breakers.

Sounds wonderful! There is a lot to be said for tropical sailing, though I love the way the southern ocean constantly changes.

Joseph Quinn wow that’s great .

Capitano Americo I do not think you would calll this running under bare poles. I call this motoring. IMHO much of this video is sloppy big seas that these folks are motoring through. You can find this kind of sea off New Jersey.

Dark well. Totally agree, and you can't feel that on a video....tenacity Is invisible..namaste

She is a long narrow easkky driven boat. But I was impressed with how well she ran under bare poles.

Reminds me of my first night at sea as a Midshipman aboard a US Navy ship in a storm off Cape Hatteras. I had midwatch that night sitting "CONFLAG" watch, locked in a closet-size room by myself with a single porthole overlooking the hangar bay watching for any sign of fire. The choppers were all heaving up and down on their oleos with the ships motion. I don't know how I managed to keep dinner down that night. It was almost as much fun as my days sweating my buns off in the boiler room.

Thanks, at one stage the wind was really starting to howl in the rigging. Fortunately it eased quickly enough after about an hour or so.

I checked it three times, it's 10 knots. Amazing.

What’s amazing is 1/2MV^2 10 to 20Kts has 4 x the power (not 10kts more! From 20 to 30 knots is a great increase, the ten knots increase is more than it sounds if you use force.

Thanks Frank, I'd love to make a video series like that but unfortunately I am not particularly good with a videocamera or editing software so It's going to be some time! At some point I might be able to post some more stuff from my Snow petrel trip south. There is some truth about the amount of sail. She was rolling heavily under bare poles, but the storm jib steadied her up a lot. The camera doesn't show it well but the sound gives an idea of the windspeed as the front crossed. She probably didn't need anymore sail at that point.

Awesome

Ha, yes. Got to love all the armchair admirals!

The slick to windward when hove to helps a fair bit. I don't think it stops the bigger breaking waves, but it sure flattens down the smaller ones and makes life much more comfortable.

Need the backwinded storn Jib to heave to don't they?

Thank you, yes the wild ocean is harsh, but also beautiful. Danke, ja, der wilde Ozean ist rau, aber auch wunderschön.

@@bentucker5009 bin ein ehemaliger leidenschaftlicher Surfer und möchte nach Jahren des Stresses per Segelboot diese wunderbare rauhe See erleben , leider fehlt mir und meinen Mitstreitern noch die Erfahrung und den anderen der Mut 😉 .....danke für die tollen Einblicke in Ihre Leidenschaft , bitte weitere Videos dieser Art , einfach umwerfend 👍👍👍

@mbholzwurm good luck getting out to a wild sea one day. But hopefully, it's not too bad! At least being a surfer you will be used to the extreme power of the waves. viel Glück, wenn du eines Tages aufs wilde Meer hinausfährst. Aber hoffentlich ist es nicht allzu schlimm! Als Surfer bist du zumindest an die extreme Kraft der Wellen gewöhnt.

Thank you.

I second this question. I doubt they did though since they were hove to.

I am in two minds about heaving too, my own favorite technique for survival storms is to run off with a drogue, or even better a series drogue, I probably wouldn't choose to heave to in severe conditions with fully developed waves, although the Pardy meothod seems to have worked very well for them, and I have hove too in some nasty conditions with success, I have always thought it was pretty vulnerable to a large breaking wave strike, as we see at the end of this clip. I'd be interested to hear about the hove too vessels in the fastnet. As I recall most of the larger vessels (40+ foot) actively sailed through the storm successfully, and the smaller vessels got caught in the worst of it due to their slower speed. I didn't think there was much consensus about what worked best for them, though It's been a long time since I read Fastnet force 10.

Ben, from another forum, ""Assent" a Contessa 32 skippered by Alan Ker came out pretty well of the '79 Fastnet race, being the smallest yacht to complete the race unscathed."