Well phase 3 really ruined our guild after a while... It was probably the best guild i've been a part of since OG Wotlk. The momentum that SoD had is gone now, it feels like a high slope getting back into Phase 4 but we're trying, but the feeling isn't there like it used to. At least that's how it is for my guild and a lot of other Swedish guilds i've talked to on Lone Wolf EU.
@zantsmith4257Ай бұрын
not comming back to sod.
@SH-gf6shАй бұрын
Wasn't excited for it but decided to continue anyways and I got sucked back in pretty much right away. Been clearing BRD with a well geared AoE group and the clear speed is absolutely nuts. I feel like I'm doing the same amount of damage at lvl 51 as I was doing at lvl 60 with raid gear back in 2019. It's actually kind of fun even if it feels weird.
@josh_kibishimaАй бұрын
@@NixxiomOnKZfaq I'm not a fan of them ruining the runes for paladins. I was having fun with the holy spec I had going on. I was using the martyr seal over seal of righteousness and it was making my holy spec a lot more fun to level now I've cancelled my sub because I can no longer have fun with the new changes. I'm a wet noodle now lol.
@nzwjАй бұрын
Super quiet on the Australasian server I'm on.
@JuanxDlolАй бұрын
Why not keep the changes to SoD and make it Classic+ and leave Classic to be Vanilla ? I'll never understand this.
@zhadez10Ай бұрын
These changes are all just freak accidental bugs spawned from incompetence. It's leaking from SOD/Cata clients into Era and has nothing to do with them wanting to "upgrade" Era servers.
@PASBGRАй бұрын
It is a way of converting classic players into retail players. Basically attempting to get you to be more comfortable with the predatory version of the product in a subtle way. An ancient way of cultural conversion done by empires on conquered/vassal regions. This is all you need to understand.
@MistarpotatoАй бұрын
Blizzard screwing up? Must be a day that ends in Y
@verenov77Ай бұрын
Yeah, ends in "why?" EDIT: Seems that Blizzard reversed their decision. Good news.
@agbuyer8825Ай бұрын
@@verenov77 I guess generation Y
@miriamweller812Ай бұрын
Crybaby day? True. Even got three y in it.
@Nekrotix12Ай бұрын
It's baffling because they HAVE a version of Classic WoW they can fuck with, Season of Discovery. Just add all these changes THERE and nobody would care.
@kaiserstritz136Ай бұрын
Damn you're right, I should start a riot in the street because blizzard allow druid to wield polearm! Fuck, what am i gonna do now?!
@bohne8746Ай бұрын
@@kaiserstritz136aaaaaahhhhhhhhh
@LayerlolАй бұрын
@@kaiserstritz136 So you don't care about them defiling wow classic?
@jimmiekarlsson4458Ай бұрын
@@Layerlol I for one dont care for some "druid polearm" minor change thing atleast. Its not that much to bitch about, only class that literaly uses polearms is like hunters. But sure, i get why some ppl might get pissed about it. They shouldent change things imo
@kaiserstritz136Ай бұрын
@Layerlol I play wow classic and I don't care at all about these changes. It's barely nothing. An equal buff for the alliance, I don't see any wrong. Druid can wield polearm, ok like in retail, it barely change anything. None dispelable buffs? Didn't people cry against been dispell by other in 2019 and called it grief? People are mad at nothing
@FazquelАй бұрын
Why don't they just leave the era realms alone and make classic plus servers where they start making these sort of changes. Seems weird af to start changing how the game works on the classic era realms. People clearly just want to play the old version of the game for better or worse.
@hobosnake1Ай бұрын
I thought season if discovery was literally supposed to be an experimental mode of the game to have changes to the game. So odd that they'd change regular classic.
@amelio5720Ай бұрын
They didn't intend to make these changes, they just don't want to spend dev time trying to keep Classic ERA untouched while they make changes in SOD, both versions run on the same build, so somethings they struggle to keep different. It's lazy.
@LemmelleniАй бұрын
@@hobosnake1 theyre just trolling at this point
@unexplained_entity7514Ай бұрын
@@amelio5720 What do you mean same build? I'd think classic would just be another instance running on the server, no? I could see them copying the same codebase from classic for SoD, but otherwise not following.
@HCSR2Ай бұрын
They are trying to find a chip in the armor to sneak into Classic Era and start monetizing it. They can gauge player reaction to this to see how vulnerable they are to change and slowly condition them into cosmetics and cash shops. It's what happened with TBC Classic. Heck it's what happened with Wrath back in the day that ultimately led to TRH.
@ajg1292Ай бұрын
As someone who played Druid at release, I can tell you that they did have the ability to use Polearms until they removed it in a later patch of Vanilla.
@SerelorАй бұрын
Which patch was that? I didn't play Druid till around TBC; only played Pally & Rogue in Vanilla
@legolatorАй бұрын
All I can find on wowpedia is " Patch 3.0.8 (2009-01-20): Now trainable by druids.". Looking for some patches in Vanilla but can't find that Druids could use them or that it was removed. Maybe someone else can Sherlock it but from what I can see that was a WOTLK addition.
@SerelorАй бұрын
@@legolator Best info I've gotten so far, appreciate ya looking into it!
@treebreeze3797Ай бұрын
Page 78 in the original WoW game manual showed that druids could learn spears and I remember using them on release also
@legolatorАй бұрын
@@treebreeze3797 I had to look this up. You are right, I have the book in front of me, and they could use Spears. Searching wowpedia for Spears it says that it was in the game up until 1.1.0 (2004-11-07) which was the North American launch version and Druids are listed as a class that could use them. At that point all Spears where converted to Polearms. "With the game's full release, the spear weapon type was removed and all existing spear items were reclassified as". Again following this trail to Polearms, the only noteable patch change was in wotlk where Druids where able to learn this weapon skill again. Between those two patches there are no mentions of this.
@JormungrandrserpentАй бұрын
There is always private servers, untainted by Blizzard's bungling.
@josh_kibishimaАй бұрын
Blizzard is gonna keep molesting classic til people leave and then they're gonna say oh look no one wants to play classic anymore and shut the servers down
@3ssenti4LАй бұрын
This.
@NoxiD-20Ай бұрын
Most likely the plan to get rid of era servers. They want those people to stop playing classic and buy the new expansion trilogy, or to move on to cata classic so they will buy wow tokens.
@LayerlolАй бұрын
Facts but I'll be playing on turtle wow @NoxiD-20
@LayerlolАй бұрын
This comment is the nail on the head.
@TheBlargMargАй бұрын
Or they'll just reset "Classic" and create new "Real Vanilla Classic" realms hehe.
@anthonycantone3750Ай бұрын
How to solve the problem: cancel your subscription
@raphaelhamato7546Ай бұрын
I just cancelled my wow sub over this. Gg blizzard/activision/microsoft/whateverthefuq.
@iShredStreetsАй бұрын
@@raphaelhamato7546 You'll be back.
@NJD47Ай бұрын
@@raphaelhamato7546 qq
@stefanmilovanov3398Ай бұрын
@@raphaelhamato7546 Womp womp
@t.ydunston2251Ай бұрын
Bro these people kill me. Make all these videos and people in the comments act like they can’t unsub. 😭😂
@SunSpot92Ай бұрын
For me, at least, it's less about the changes themselves and more about them breaking their promise of keeping things as they were at launch.
@shokibtАй бұрын
ppl using zygor and such addons in classic complaining for this changes are so funny
@alex-suciuАй бұрын
exactly lol
@DemethVLKАй бұрын
Yeah this is ridiculous. I'm tired of the wow playerbase
@shantotto1wife519Ай бұрын
It starts with these changes and ends with classic era token/cash shop
@shantotto1wife519Ай бұрын
@JustSomeIdiot794 putting a token in classic era wouldn't cost them anything though
@MrNozesАй бұрын
Nostalgia driven people will get mad at anything. I'm not even shocked anymore
@XFoX90Ай бұрын
They can't help themselves but to touch things. It wouldnt be the first time.
@StormTrooperVidsАй бұрын
im gonna touch you
@Needler13Ай бұрын
Nothing of these changes is bad.
@filthycasual8187Ай бұрын
@@Needler13 They exist. For a game that's supposed to basically be an untouched museum piece. They're fucking bad.
@davidnielsen5695Ай бұрын
True, but a day will come where they change something you dont like. I always been on the #nochanges side, not because i think vanills is just oh so perfect, but simpley because they would mlst certainly change things i dont want changed. Like a dungeon and raid finder is a gamebreaker for me, i hate it, i know alot of people would like it though.@@Needler13
@86CorvusАй бұрын
All of it is bad
@davidcarter8946Ай бұрын
I hate Zygor ... why? not because it's a Pay-For-Add-On ... but because it's a "subscription" based add-on and you have to pay monthly. When I contacted them about this, they tried to "hide it" ... scummy scumbags ...
@Shadow_GrandmasterАй бұрын
Just pirate it. Anyone who pays for zygor monthly is throwing money away.
@daben7145Ай бұрын
its against ToS of blizzard anyways to sell addons.
@chaelsonnensbicep9711Ай бұрын
@@Shadow_Grandmasterhow do you pirate zygor
@handsinthefireАй бұрын
Same with Restedxp. I hate both of them equally and I can't fucking wait for something to happen to can both of them. Premium functions is against tos when locked behind a paywall.
@andrepinto7283Ай бұрын
@@chaelsonnensbicep9711 Google "elitepvp wow addons"
@ninnikuprobabilityАй бұрын
Blizzard took down Turtle-WoW's unreal video via issuing a takedown notice. Last night Asmongold was forced to take down his own video reacting to Turtle-WoW. Seems to be having a Streisand Effect, a flood of new players all the sudden. Thanks for saying good things!
@TheMetalIsNeonАй бұрын
I'm almost certain that these changes were intended specifically for Season of Discovery, and Blizz messed up and added them to era without realizing it. It's the only way I could see this being justified
@jonathansoko1085Ай бұрын
That's a cope my dude
@klavier285Ай бұрын
The druid Pole arm skill makes me think this. What a random thing to add. The other stuff could make sense, but why that singular class change?
@michaelstronghold3550Ай бұрын
It's possible. SoD runes temporarily made it to era in the same update causing all sorts of crashing for a few days.
@iShepardiАй бұрын
@@klavier285 Because it adds usability for an underutilized item category on Alliance which would benefit druid in having. Which is why it was added later in WoW. This gives and option which sees these items used more.
@Hmmm0101Ай бұрын
The issue is not that it slipped through to ERA, the issue is that instead of them fixing the bugs, they advertised them as NEW FEATURES.
@ShotgunHowardАй бұрын
Isn't changes to Classic WoW why they started Season of Discovery?
@zhadez10Ай бұрын
Sure but these are Era servers. Personally I am all for changes but I want a polling system like OSRS not random changes nobody asked for. Also you have way more severe stuff leaking from SOD/Cata clients like paladins learning divine steed and warlocks getting instant and non channeled rain of fire. The druid polearm thing is just from the cata client and now they figure since people already learned it I guess this is now a feature.
@RelhioАй бұрын
@@zhadez10 Hey guys, do you still want the Alliance to be weaker than the Horde? Horde players (70%) vote yes, Alliance (30%) vote no; what a world we live in. Y'all want Druids to remain completely useless because of terrible outdated class fantasies and have specs like Elemental or Balance that are literally unplayable?
@ich8966Ай бұрын
They need to leave era alone. They promised to keep an original version of classic online with no changes. Remember the drama back then with nostalrius and official classic servers?
@Dayz3O6Ай бұрын
Dont give money and time to a company that never respect you or like you to begin with.
@JAZ_2002Ай бұрын
TURTLE WOW MENTIONED 🐢‼️‼️🔥🐢🔥🗣🔥🔥🗣🔥‼️‼️🐢‼️‼️
@ArnarionArtАй бұрын
As much as I love WoW, I'm sure we can all agree that Blizz hasn't been in touch with their players for years now
@NoxiD-20Ай бұрын
More like over a decade.
@ArnarionArtАй бұрын
@@NoxiD-20 I know right! Been waiting for that damn devilsaur mount forever too. I want my ridable T-rex
@sc-mh3jj20 күн бұрын
"you think you do, but you don't"
@DJezdicАй бұрын
Blizzard is in a constant state of making bad decisions.
@hobosnake1Ай бұрын
idk. people were practically jizzling themselves when SoD was announced and for months after it was released. I think people are just dramatic.
@DJezdicАй бұрын
@@hobosnake1 You left out the part where SOD hemorrhaged its player base to the point of being smaller than era.
@Torsar_Ай бұрын
@@hobosnake1thats because people thought they were getting a glimpse into Classic+ It took a while for them to come off the copium and realize what they got was Retail-. Any singular move theyve made isnt a big deal. But their constant unwillingness to believe that people actually want Classic to be Classic is proven in all these moves. Very bad indicators for anything positive going forward for any WoW player be it Retail, no changes Classic, or anything inbetween.
@LayerlolАй бұрын
It's not a bad decision for them tho, They want to mess with classic in the hopes that people quit and go to cata or retail to collect money from tokens and other stuff in their store. Blizzard isn't making any money off classic era players so to them it's a business move
@filthycasual8187Ай бұрын
@@Layerlol That sounds like you're defending them.
@MaethendiasАй бұрын
i cant believe that ...nvm i CAN believe that blizzard went full circle from "you think you do, but you dont" to "classic release breaking wow records" literally back to "you think you do, but you dont"
@MrGoesBoomАй бұрын
So the whole point of Classic is that it's as close to the original game as they could get....and now they're changing it and wondering why people are upset....We can't blame Activision at this point, seems like the folks at Blizz really are just that stupid. This is like me ordering a bacon pizza and finding out they changed it to have sausage because they felt that it's what I really wanted and why are you upset it's not bacon? I mean sausage also comes from pigs so it's the same thing only better ( from the idiots point of view at any rate )
@johernandez266Ай бұрын
Now I want pizza. 😂
@alex-suciuАй бұрын
must be terrible to have druids be able to equip polearms, or have alliance a similar wb as horde, or gods forbid a better guild ui
@zhadez10Ай бұрын
@@alex-suciu These changes are all bad because Blizzard didn't ask the community, it's as simple as that. None of these changes are well thought out and tailored specifically to Era servers. They are all just freak accidental bugs spawned from incompetence and now they're trying to play it off as intentional. Druids able to use polearms for instance is just from cata client and now they're like aw shiet people already learned polearms so I guess this is a feature now. There are SOD runes leaking into era servers like paladins learning divine steed and warlocks getting instant non channeled rain of fire. It doesn't matter if you agree with all or any of the "changes" this is just incompetence.
@MrGoesBoomАй бұрын
@@alex-suciu You seem to miss the point of Classic...it's the OG version of the game, or as close as they can get. That's the point, that's the draw. Not "Oh, well this was something people really wished they'd had back in the day, let's add that in. Oh, the old UI was bad let's change it" No, the point of Classic is that it's as close as you can get to being back in 2004 and playing the game as it was when it first came out. Nothing more, nothing less.
@riftwalker9296Ай бұрын
Blizzard doesn't give a damn about their fans. It's why I stopped giving them money years ago.
@ajamesrichardsАй бұрын
But still watch videos about their games. 🤡
@riftwalker9296Ай бұрын
@@ajamesrichards Even though I won't play their games I like to read/hear stories about all kinds of information in the gaming circles.
@86CorvusАй бұрын
Not only watches but keeps blizzards feet to the fire by scrutnizing their behaviour publicly. Hes the chad, youre the clown.
@Cal12517Ай бұрын
Turtle wow
@IlikethepurplesАй бұрын
Turtle WoW!!!!!!! Thanks for the shout out to the BEST classic (+) experience you can have
@AGHathawayАй бұрын
Turtle wow isn't what Classic Andys want to play.
@kima0ne648Ай бұрын
@@AGHathawayYou don't say? 🤨
@IlikethepurplesАй бұрын
@@AGHathawaysure. But I’d say it’s much better than classic and improves it in ways that are reminiscent of what blizzard would do if they continued to support classic. I don’t actually think classic Andy’s want vanilla vanilla. I think that’s what they think they want because they’ve seen how blizzard maintains there current projects. Idk, if you aren’t toxic give it a try. There’s no fomo. No p2w mtx. Balance changes and updates are almost always praised by the community. It isn’t perfect (what community / dev team is) but if you’re looking for a true classic (+) experience there is nothing like it on the market.
@jakecarroll5Ай бұрын
@@Ilikethepurples Man the maps in Turtle wow are beautiful. Like rediscovering azeroth again.
@gamerdude999Ай бұрын
@@AGHathawayand?
@Whateverdude970Ай бұрын
Just stop playing. Its like being in an abusive relationship. They never change, they always keep lying and will never respect their playerbase. Just stop playing. I got sick and tired years ago and ended my sub. Never ever will i go back to a game from that fucked up company
@ganjatrooper7193Ай бұрын
Yep, apply those 15 $ to Turtle WoW or other classic servers rather than paying someone to slowly ruin the game for you.
@jakecarroll5Ай бұрын
Literally this. Turtle wow was it for me. When a private server is outperforming the giant Blizz then its time to go. Ill probably donate to Turtlewow my sub then and give them 15$ a month. Fuck it. They changed the maps, adding unreal engine 5, everything they did is amazing.
@ajamesrichardsАй бұрын
Then get off commenting on the game too 🤡
@Whateverdude970Ай бұрын
@@ajamesrichards why? I watch Nixxiom. So what that he makes WoW vids sometimes. Stop playing a game doesn't disqualifies me from commenting on it. Thats a childs way of thinking. Youre 12 or something?
@joelhodoborgasАй бұрын
Leave era alone!!!!!!
@rickadmiraal9864Ай бұрын
And this is the reason i play on a private server
@lorec73Ай бұрын
Why would anyone support this company anymore? They haven't understood anything ever since Pandaria (Since TBC if you ask me). A ruined franchise cannot be fixed.
@deathbob091Ай бұрын
you cant trust a business that needs to make money, even if it once was a company we all truly loved
@gregjross852Ай бұрын
This comment makes no sense. Classic era brings in penny’s compared to the cash shop of Cata/retail. This just makes no sense at all from a business standpoint.
@NighDarkeАй бұрын
Once blizzard starts making changes they don't stop so this is only the beginning and that is why everybody is freaking out. They know this and they don't want it, they want to try to nip it in the bud right now.
@RazanaArcclawАй бұрын
Funny I don't remember people freaking out when they removed spell batching, I seem to remember people asking for the game to be changed to remove it, and also praising the addition of the chrono boon.
@MegaChickenfishАй бұрын
I'll be perfectly honest I *completely* forgot these era realms existed.
@AdolephonАй бұрын
I would love they make a option to chose between classic graphics or modern stunning ghrapics, also modern UI. Let me have the freedom to chose what i want.
@CurieBohrАй бұрын
There are addons that greatly improve the graphics. But, compared to retail, Classic looks terrible.
@AGHathawayАй бұрын
@@CurieBohr Dissagree, retail looks like trash. It's noisy and ugly.
@denisblack9897Ай бұрын
More like modern shitty graphics… I cant stand new running and cloak animations
@CurieBohrАй бұрын
@@denisblack9897 yet in classic, everything is old and tired looking, not two things.
@joaoelvas8951Ай бұрын
They don't understand the community... Release actual classic plus, or maintain the pure experience. Simple! Also remove pay to win BS, done.
@LemonMan91Ай бұрын
I'm mildly irritated by them going back on their word, but honestly, what is Blizzard's word even worth these days? At this point, we're just dumb for believing anything they say.
@dingbatdunce-qe3unАй бұрын
RIP ERA
@godofdunАй бұрын
I don't play classic era, I've no interest in it whatsoever.......I still think this was dumb, just leave it alone. Mind boggling.
@desbraxtАй бұрын
I think blizz thought people really loved SoD and thought adding some changes to classic would be smart not realizing the difference in the fan bases. Some want classic plus and some want vanilla.
@eurosonlyАй бұрын
Players: we want classic with no changes! Also players: use min-maxaing guides and all of these addons and tools to exploit the shit out of the game. So you're telling me, that people want the old stuff while they play it in a modern way? What's the point of that then?
@AlvinEarthwormАй бұрын
The hypocrisy of the average Classic Andy. Fecking idiots.
@joshw3719Ай бұрын
There’s a REASON why all of us still like playing Era. It’s because Vanilla will always be replayable and Era Vanilla is the closest we have to unchanged. There going to mess up the only thing we have that they said they’d never touch. They also messed up the interface already months ago with the retail one.
@MrCoolAttitudeАй бұрын
I don't care for classic but I support this. Leave classic as it was supposed to be.
@thetoph20Ай бұрын
I'm pissed off they didn't leave WotLK servers on there :( I logged in one day after they released the classic cataclysm servers. I literally stopped playing because of this
@deadmesiahАй бұрын
bruh ...... so they gave alliance a buff druids polearms and updated the guild ui they are evil for doing this
@AGHathawayАй бұрын
You don't get it. Have you ever made anything significant in your life?
@jakecarroll5Ай бұрын
Its insane like you have one job. Do not touch classic era servers So they touch them like fucking idiots. One of the worst moves they have ever done with Turtlewow destroying them. Corporate greed eventually rots everything from the inside out.
@mapleflavouredbacon9938Ай бұрын
Yeah it's not like Blizzard hasn't ruined literally every version of WoW that they have, "changed"
@albertgeorgy6827Ай бұрын
They always refuse to listen. They make small changes but they never really change
@Needler13Ай бұрын
Seems they just made the alliance as equal to horde and giving druids an extra weapon, which is fine. Dont see the big issue. Only true issue is the guild UI. That is it. Everything else seems to make the alliance the same as the horde and making druids more appealing. If they stop at that, it seems they just made classic the perfect version
@Nightstalker314Ай бұрын
The Halo comparison example is complete nonsense.
@JeffDaysАй бұрын
Playing classic in 2019 as an alliance player, I thought it was unfathomably dumb that alliance did not have warchief's blessing. I'd be jumping for joy reading these patch notes if they did it back then 😂
@latham4575Ай бұрын
I think Blizzard has lost it. I logged into Sod and saw they gave Paladins the horse ability (Divine Steed). No thank you Blizz.
@bfrizzelАй бұрын
sad I just hit 40 on my pally on DD.. stoked to get the mount, but these changes kinda ruined this "fresh" movement on Deviate Delight for me. RIP
@AewepTRАй бұрын
This really feels like manufactured outrage for wow creators to get some clicks :/ EDIT: After doing a little bit more research, it does appear that some bugs were introduced with this patch on the era servers. While I still don’t think the changes shown in the video are egregious, I have a better understanding of where some of the outrage is coming from.
@AlvinY4kitoriАй бұрын
oh so the changes are not real?
@joelhodoborgasАй бұрын
How about visiting the forums and checking that you're stupid for yourself
@ferren400Ай бұрын
@@AlvinY4kitori real, but the impact seems to be a bit exaggerated.
@klavier285Ай бұрын
Couldn't be that people that love vanilla wow are tired of blizz messing with their static version of the game. All blizz had to do was release classic and leave it in maintenance mode. But no, we get chronoboon, decay removal, UI changes, dispel removal, bowls of fruit, item name changes because of breast milk drinkers, and now the latest batch of changes.
@moeck14Ай бұрын
100% agree the changes are so minute and have no impact on the broader game. Disappointed in this video tbh
@ronnycifarelli3117Ай бұрын
i see this and get legit Angry at this kind of Players, how can you be this lost and get Angry about things like this. They only search for Problems its so crazy...
@veritasabsoluta4285Ай бұрын
Because no one trusts Blizzard
@ZapatosVibesАй бұрын
Turtle WoW devs have a better understanding of what makes vanilla a timeless game than Classic devs, sadly.
@delliveromofficielle9551Ай бұрын
turtle wow devs should own classic wow instead of blizzard
@ZombieApocalypse09Ай бұрын
The new guild UI is so bad. It really is incomprehensible.
@sirdernosoftides8137Ай бұрын
Time to go to private servers
@dylanbaird9629Ай бұрын
I heard this was an accident because these changes are for SoD. Since SoD uses the same servers, sometimes the changes for SoD accidentally show up in era. This happened in phase 2 as well with some class tuning.
@Sheila3444Ай бұрын
Stop fixing what's not broken.
@daltonnelson94Ай бұрын
1. Blizzard shouldn't be changing classic realms 2. Classic Andys should stop whining about everything. It's not that big of a deal
@jigsaw6954Ай бұрын
People are mad about this? 😂
@golvellius6855Ай бұрын
The only company that will ever destroy blizzard is,,,, Blizzard
@andremaccarini1656Ай бұрын
I honestly don't get what's the big deal with this update. Druids get polearms and you get a different guild window. Wow. Such devastation.
@silent_moshiАй бұрын
Oh no! How terrible! I'M SO UPSET!
@loganroettger1491Ай бұрын
This is possibly the most ridiculous outrage and shit fit I have ever seen. A guild panel change doesn't affect the game at all. It's a UI change. The alliance world buff has 0 impact on horde players and doesn't really affect the people that just play classic for leveling, which is most people I know. And druids using polearms only affects druids specifically, if at all. I'm not even sure there are any polearms in the game a druid would prefer over what they were using before. Also nice of Nixxiom to plug Turtle WoW at the end for the extra money, talking about classic+ when the entire point of this video is throwing a shit fit about 3 incredibly minor changes to classic. Do you really think players mad about a UI change want to go play Classic+?
@temetnosce2099Ай бұрын
Imagine being a Blizz shill in 2024. How pathetic. There is no excuse for them messing with a version they said they wouldn’t touch. People should unsub after being lied to yet again.
@veritasabsoluta4285Ай бұрын
I completely agree with you that these changes are nothing, but the reason people are angry is that Blizzard said they would not touch Classic. If they can do these small changes, who knows what more changes they might add? No one trusts Blizzard.
@games12444Ай бұрын
Here’s the thing that players don’t seem to understand. You have Classic Andy’s that want no changes to the classic era. Much like Nixxiom has mentioned. However, on the other side, you have those who wanted Classic era and now small added things along with it. This is not a surprising case. Doing classic, day in and day out, over and over again, people will get BORED of doing the same thing constantly. If no change happens, the game/version will die. It’s the same thing that happened to OSRS, where it was released in the era of 2007. Players enjoyed it, but then got bored of doing the same shit. The moment Nightmare Zone came out is when “OSRS” or “RS07” was no more. It became the equivalent of a private server. Classic WoW is following the same pattern.
@WulvarrАй бұрын
All Blizzard had to do was keep the original re release of classic in the Wrath Era but they couldn't help themselves.
@slandry4664Ай бұрын
*Blizz changes the font on a single quest to be more legible* This guy : BLIZZARD HAS RUINED CLASSIC WOW, MY LIFE IS RUINED, MY WIFE LEFT ME AND MY DOG RAN AWAY.. YOU SCREWED UP BLIZZARD.
@warrhindАй бұрын
I don;t get it... I am a retail player, who just dabble in classic a bit, but it seems to me like the three tiny tweaks do not affect the way the game plays at all....
@IvanBebozmoBeozoАй бұрын
it is no longer classic
@warrhindАй бұрын
@@IvanBebozmoBeozo But it is...the clasees have the same rotations, the HP is the same, the mechanics are the same, the gold economy is the same, the PVP is the same, the raids are the same, the BiS gear is the same, the mobs are the same, the quests are the same, etc. literally 99.99999999% of the game is the same.
@SplatastictheRealOneАй бұрын
It was stated to be left alone, unchanged. To be as vanilla as possible, but adding even a slight difference or benefit like a polearm for druids, or axes for rogues Sounds nice, but it is not needed. I still want the TBC era, and the wrath era servers to be a part of that time capsule. And kept pure to what the experience was intended for. A person getting into a version of WoW for the first time. While separated from Era progression. Like cata classic. Sometimes they need to get off the tool of money, sit down and reconnect with their audience. Money can do a lot, but the people who've put their time, passion and money into it to ALLOW WoW to be what it has become from the years. It was because of us, and the dedicated few that saw gaming as a hobby not a job just to regale other friends of the adventures you went through with your guild of more friends, and legacy of how you charged right in, and enjoying the bucket of chicken you have. _Knight-Lieutenant Leeroy Jenkins._ Or how the GM made an oopsie and gave Leeroyspeltz Martin Fury and his guild claimed WF by using it or the Talisman of the Binding shard Legendary necklace being owned by one person in legacy. Those are stories of how silly mistakes and fun made warcraft be itself. People's fun, And funerals of not just players of people behind the character did bring people closer, and blizzard is ruining that. To some degree. Rose tinted goggles are for those who can't accept the people we had in our games life span. Everyone misses Reckful the Rogue, Everyone Misses Havengames the Paladin explorer. And sure as heck everyone misses their friends who were sadly lost. The game is a memorial for everyone we've met, and everyone who's yet to begin their journey. Azeroth calls for you adventurer. It is a home away from home. And one that welcomed everyone before going mildly soft. _like can't even swear in the game anymore what if my RP character was a foul mouthed cutthroat or mercenary who swore at every possible outcome?_
@tigerfist1126Ай бұрын
I told players in the WoW forums that if Blizzard makes any changes to WoW classic , than it is not classic .
@the13thkillzoneАй бұрын
people really have nothing better to complain about... these are all good changes imo.
@jjackson2225Ай бұрын
They deleted all my classic characters and now they are on cataclysm and half of them require name changes.....
@carliemorgan1871Ай бұрын
Stop going against TOS, then
@whachadoowinАй бұрын
Alliance getting rend was unironically a good thing. Horde is dying while Alliance is thriving and rend pops were getting more rare every day.
@etchieSketchieАй бұрын
Personally it doesn't bother me, but on principle Blizz should not change classic. If that's what they wanted to do, they need to pull the trigger on "Classic Plus" and align themselves with player expectations and past promises.
@badgamemasterАй бұрын
In something like the Classic era realms the only thing they should fix it things that breaks the game... like a part of a chain quest being broken...
@SquilarkАй бұрын
I think people are stupid to turn down the world buff equivency; so many alliance would just have priest alts accounts with a clicker to help them get their own buff safely on top of Org. It's not fun gameplay. It's extremely dull. The complaints for druid polearm and chronoboom are extremely valid though.
@GreekwarioАй бұрын
People bitching about alliance getting Rend don’t understand or never got it
@hundy8978Ай бұрын
If you can add shit no one asked for. You can return the era characters to these realms that didn't clone. People are actually asking for that.
@thebeginning2901Ай бұрын
Simple tip:Dont give your hard work money to them
@infiniteGranolabars9-sk9llАй бұрын
R.I.P. Classic Era
@raphaelhamato7546Ай бұрын
I unsubbed over this
@zhadez10Ай бұрын
@landrybt These are all bad because Blizzard didn't ask the community, it's as simple as that. None of these changes are well thought out and tailored specifically to Era servers. They are all just freak accidental bugs spawned from incompetence.
@red2522Ай бұрын
I don't see why they would even do it.. The only thing I could accept is UI changes IF the player had a choice between old and new UI with a click
@xuke7343Ай бұрын
Man, dumping Blizzard has to be the one of the best decisions I have ever made...it just felt like a abusive relationship playing their games.
@xaulted1Ай бұрын
Gotta say, I don't get the insane outrage over something so irrelevant.
@leofwulf268Ай бұрын
honestly guild tab is something I welcome it doesn't really matter I mean come on they already changed the entire game options ui to the modern one anyway
@Shadow_GrandmasterАй бұрын
People are more upset that there’s no fresh classic servers and no tbc/wrath servers. If blizzard added a fresh classic server or tbc with these updated changes, doubt there would be any complaining.
@curnott6051Ай бұрын
Because people are afraid of a "snowball" effect which, imo, is fair. Oh sure, it's a fee small changes now, but what about a few months from now when they make a few more, and then a few more? And before long there's enough changes that Classic Era doesn't feel much like Clasic anymore. Give an inch, they'll take a mile as they say.
@klavier285Ай бұрын
Because it's supposed to be a static version of the game that doesn't change. They have a version of the game for that, it's called SoD.
@bradhuddleson5216Ай бұрын
All 17 people playing on those severs are big mad.
@jdizzleeeeeeАй бұрын
Right? Who cares. These changes are infinitesimal anyway.
@ErianthorАй бұрын
Blizzard ought to do 3 things: 1. Make it possible to make your own "legacy version" servers for all the prior expansions & Vanilla, just like Minecraft lets you! 2. Add WoW subscription to the Gamepass (and make fresh Classic-Vanilla servers for the opportunity). 3. Stop messing up all the time!
@person1191Ай бұрын
I don’t see why you would mess with the classic realms if no one asked you too.
@GothaBillsAndDeathАй бұрын
"no one asked for a stormwind equivalent of rend buff" are you... did we play different versions of wow? Also chronoboons exist, you can't dispel buffs anymore, multiple small changes to items. Blizzard already changed Classic WoW, andies just don't want to admit it.
@unscheduled_gamingАй бұрын
I love these changes #moreChanges
@ElemorOGАй бұрын
Classic era is not classic classic anymore, since ALWAYS. Get over it. It's just a quality of life change, a balance for people who plays PvE.
@Hammerage1Ай бұрын
If they are going to make changes, I want to see the Calendar being added. Setting up guild events or raids there and not being restricted to third party programs would be very nice.
@MissFaerlynnАй бұрын
Original guild UI was an absolutely pure garbage. Replacing it with new one is just a bonus. It's crazy just how much some people are willing to moan about keeping bad stuff in game with 0 effect other than being annoying for sake of nostalgia. other changes, fair, that's changes to actual gameplay experience, that's bad. But moaning about UI change? meh. The game doesn't even play like original classic since it runs on new, updated engine of wow. Stuff behaves differently. Where are people complaining about the fact it's not original vanilla client? Yeah..
@IvanBebozmoBeozoАй бұрын
blizzard shill
@TBboyeeАй бұрын
I think everyones expectations are so fuckin high nowadays that no one can ever be happy and enjoy much of anything. Channels THRIVE off of bad news and its getting old. not saying blizzard hasnt fucked up ... they have for sure but there will always be unhappy people that seem like they just want to be mad regardless.
@targgthewise2892Ай бұрын
So don’t be upset about paying 15$, then having them change the rules? Ummm, ok?
@STNJ_YTАй бұрын
Pretty dumb take imo. The whole premise of these realms were established BY BLIZZARD as realms that would not see changes and not be touched. They sold 15$ character clone and transfers for this precise reason. And now they are going back on that. (Let's not ignore that you still need a sub to play on these realms) I would argue the changes are dumb and unnecessary that really do nothing, but also I would argue the changes are dumb and unnecessary that really do nothing.
@wigdocterАй бұрын
yes thats the only thing these channels have. complaining and negativity because thats what gets views.
@MunDane68Ай бұрын
I can testify that Druids were allowed pole-arms at release of WoW and they took it away before BWL, maybe even before Onyxia. Endgame for Druids was either Bear tank or Resto, all the pole-arms were either Hunter centric or vendor trash after that point
@marcusmolyneux6422Ай бұрын
Lol yall are a bunch of 30 + year olds crying about a UI change to a guild tab that can be reverted back to the old guild tab with a weak aura. Who cares they added a new world buff for ally side BIG WIN for ally, world buffs not dispellable BIG WIN. Druids can equip polearms so dafaq what, just don't equip it.
@NovaMayАй бұрын
Oh god what happened now
@jamaldavis2480Ай бұрын
I don't get this turtle WoW thing.... So we don't want Blizzard to touch the game... but we want turtle wow to touch the game... what?
@Mystie689Ай бұрын
Turtle WoW feels like vanilla. Blizzard does not want classic to feel like vanilla or the original xpacs that classic is supposed to be.
@youngpoopАй бұрын
There is a reason why they made season of discovery and we have classic era realms.
@jamaldavis2480Ай бұрын
No, no, the entire community is freaking out because they got a new Guild UI, Druids are allowed to use Polearms, and the alliance doesn't need to go to orgimar and do mind control things to get a world buff. Everyone talking about this brings up Turtle WoW and going to it. Turtle WoW goes much further than Blizzard did... and it feels like vanilla? No it doesn't. It honestly just seems that people want a reason to be upset with Blizzard and are taking any reason to do so, but anyone else touching their game is fine. WoW in unreal 5 cheer! Druid using polearms this game is unplayable garbage now.
@anthonyduncan8676Ай бұрын
@@Mystie689 turtle wow has a cash shop arguably worse than blizzard. I mean you can by AH, Bank, and vendor pets. You can buy mounts on the shop and even skins and full "illusions" to make your chara look like a furblog or other nonsense.
@Mystie689Ай бұрын
@@anthonyduncan8676 Turtle WoW operates off of donations and that cash shop blizzard has people pay monthly they don't need the cash shop there's a big difference and yeah those items are all lore friendly if i'm not mistaken.
@markroy9042Ай бұрын
All i want as a Druid is pummeler to have 20% more drop chance, thats the only righteous change.
@mordredstein9553Ай бұрын
Blizzard: Druids now have weapon options, so they dont have to farm Gnomeregan. Players: The sky is falling! This kind of silliness is why everyone makes fun of classic players.
@jonasdraiman988Ай бұрын
I never get tired of seeing how the wow community gets so rilled up for nothing, all this fuzz is literally what ''storm in a glass of water'' means, like omg.. blizz made so druids can use polearms.. so what ? is the most useless weapon type in classic anyway, remember ''Vendorstrike'' ? like most polearms in the game, not worth to use it, and if u are using a polearm, you probably dont have anything better to use in its place. Now.. the ally buff, thats kind of big, maybe something meant for SoD, but since its the same client got into classic by mistake ? maybe all those changes are meant for SoD and it was all a mistake, who knows, but i still think the same, even if it isnt the case, we have much bigger problems in the game to get mad about something like this, btw this is coming from someone who did played and enjoyed a warrior 1-60 in classic, one of the best leveling experiences in mmos that i ever had (even if it was slow af), im all in for turtle wow unreal engine project too, looks really awesome, also.. i know what nixxiom means like ''classic andys dont want changes, they want what we had in 2019'' i get that, you have something you like and enjoy even with its flaws, but why complain when 1. the changes its meaningless such as polearms for druids or 2. new guild ui (which shows more information about members and its systematically better) ? seems like some poeple just love to complain about anything they can get an excuse to complain about, but then again.. its my take/opinion on the matter, i would bet it is something for SoD, but we'll see soon enough and if it isnt... people who dont like it can play turtle wow instead, everybody wins haha.
@Brosak.Ай бұрын
Exactly 😅
@zhadez10Ай бұрын
It's about the dishonesty here These "changes" are leaking over to Era servers from the SOD/Cata clients. Take druid polearm for instance that's from Cata and now since people learned it Blizz is like oh well I guess this is a feature now. Runes from SOD are also leaking over with Paladins learning divine steed and warlocks having instant non channeled rain of fire. If they are to make any changes at all to classic era they should implement some variation of the OSRS polling system rather than calling new bugs "changes"
@jakecarroll5Ай бұрын
Very bad take. If you don't understand classic players fine but do not comment something you do not understand about and say you're "tired".
@jonasdraiman988Ай бұрын
@@jakecarroll5 Why its a bad take ? i do understand classic players, retail wow changed in a way its not the same game i fell in love with over a decade ago, i complain about the changes i dont like, suggest improvements and all, but are they happening ? No. I AM tired of seeing people over react to some thing like this and not to things like lack of balancing in the game, polishment or other actual important stuff for the game, so it can improve and keep growing. But this level of reaction for something so small as the things nixxiom noted in the video are just a joke to complain about, to get rilled up about and make a petition, players should be making a petition for classic +, or to blizzard hire the guys from the turtle wow team to make classic + and maybe even handle classic servers, they clearly know what they're doing there, maybe you didnt get my point and got offended because you're one of the big fans of classic, a ''classic andy'' how people say, but i always wish for the best for wow, always did and always will, what im saying here is that people and putting their demands and worries on the wrong topic.
@YugelolАй бұрын
Druids using polearms is fine probably one of the dumbest reasons to complain in a version of the game where everyone playing actively is bis already Most player's wouldn't notice this change if a few nerds didn't overreact over it
@privatebandanaАй бұрын
Holy bootlicking
@klavier285Ай бұрын
Cool. Can paladins learn gun skill to make ranged pulling easier? Also a taunt would be nice. Anyone else want anything? Just small changes ofc.
@FrostgnawАй бұрын
The best thing about private servers is that there are no or very very few bots. There are some projects that release a serverwide announcement when an account is banned. Ascension is fantastic. Turtle WoW has some discord/reddit mod-type mods. I really wish Vanilla Plus picked up, but sadly so few people play it.
@obiwayne2247Ай бұрын
Honestly blizzard screwing up? Thats kinda everyday business. It woud be a bigger surprise if i saw a video at this point that says: Blizzard did everything perfectly fine exactly how the fans wanted it.