*Timestamps:* 00:00 - Introduction 00:28 - Background of Dr. Ali Ataie 00:39 - Today's Topic 01:24 - Introduction to the Topic 02:06 - The Claim of the Christian Polemicist & Modern Atheist 05:48 - No Copy and Paste Job! 08:15 - Important Preliminary Questions 17:04 - New Testament Authorship as per the Christian tradition 17:44 - Authorship as per the General Consensus of Critical Scholars 19:06 - Facts about the New Testament Canon 29:30 - Matthew and Paul 40:33 - Papias & "Mark:" Was Papias actually describing ’The Gospel of Mark?’ 46:20 - In Reality, It's All Apocrypha 47:20 - Historicity of the Christian Texts & Beliefs 49:41 - What's a Christian? 54:22 - Hadith vs The New Testament 56:14 - ’Many’ were Writing ’Stories’ about Jesus 59:46 - There is ’Gospel Truth’ outside the New Testament! 1:01:25 - The Truth about Christian Beliefs & Texts 1:05:01 - Polemicist Double Standards 1:06:49 - Canonical NT Writers quoting or referencing noncanonical writings 1:15:55 - Multiple Attestation & Social Coherence 1:29:30 - Method of Paul & the Gospel Writers 1:35:48 - The Qur'anic view of Jesus: Is it historically plausible? 2:07:46 - OT Apocryphal/Deuterocanonical References by the Gospel Writers 2:17:46 - The Proto-Gospel of James vs the Qur'an 2:28:29 - The Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew (aka Infancy Gospel of Matthew) vs the Qur'an 2:40:41 - The Infancy Gospel of Thomas vs the Qur'an 2:53:00 - The Arabic Gospel of the Infancy of the Saviour/Syriac Infancy Gospel vs the Qur'an 2:57:05 - Summary of the Presentation 2:57:19 - Book Recommendations 2:58:30 - Closing Remarks & Wrapping Up SubhanAllah ❤️💛💙 Marvelous Presentation & Discussion 👍🏻👌🏻 _May Allah ﷻ bless you both and reward you for your efforts._ 🤲🏻

As a Revert to Islam, this account of my former religion of Christianity makes so much sense. Thank you, Brothers.

I read Bible a long time ago, and I am happy to learn that Dr Ataie validated what I had concluded back then. In summary, the catholic Bible was first published in 1609 and the protestant Bible in 1611. There was no Bible before that. There were scattered sources in various languages written long after the actual events and Bible authors used those sources. Some actual words of God from Torah, Psalms or Gospel might have been included but it’s all mixed up with writers’ own account and is more of a commentary or a narrative review of all sources and interpretations combined. Thus, Quran which was published in 632 CE could not have copied from a book that got published 1000 years later. On the other hand, Quran lays down the principles of a wide range of subjects including ethics, religious beliefs, governance, economics, archeology, astronomy, biology and medicine. There is not much Arabic literature prior to Quran. How can one explain that the prophet of Islam peace be upon him managed to compile all the data in his head, edited it in his head and started orally disseminating it over a period of 23 years to complete a product, that has it own unique form. It is not in a standard book form - prose, poetry or drama. It is like a dream in which you jump from one scene to another with a running commentary in the background, but unlike dream, which often makes no sense, it is all connected to a core message and internally and externally consistent while remaining eloquent. That's what the challenge is about to produce a book like that. The miracles of Moses or Jesus were witnessed by people of that time and who knows what they saw. Quran is available for all learned people to examine. So the question is how was it produced if not by revelation?

This is an extremely important lecture for muslims to benefit from. Especially in our discussions with christians.

May Allah Bless and Reward Both of you in this Life and in the Hereafter.

I could listen to Dr. Ataie for hours, and I do. Allah bless and reward you both for spreading such valuable knowledge.

One of the ways our teachers say to defend the Qurān is to memorise the Qurān and send our kids to the Masjid to memorise the Qurān. Allāh give me and us all the ability to memorise, act upon and teach the Qurān Āmīn!

Dr. Ali Ataie is always a pearl on BT. His are always loàded presentations. May Allah protect him and reward him

Always looking forward for Dr Ali’s appearances on BT 🙏🏻👏🏻 it always means precious, insightful information

I am a follower of Jesus and I absolutely learn more about "Christianity"and Islam from Dr Ali Ataie than from any other human alive today by listening to Blogging Theology as I work. May the Lord be magnified. Assalamualaikum. Shalom Aleichem.

Another 3 hour banger and with Dr Ali Atai no less 😁 May Allah bless you for all your work sir

Alhamdullilah, I'm glad you live in England for my sake because you are uploading before 5am my time in the US and I work at 6am so I will get to listen to this during the morning's work. 😊 Thank you brother Paul and Dr. Ali Ataie for your work.

We are lucky to have the Quran. Alhamdulillah, Allah is indeed merciful. Thank you Paul for inviting Dr Ali with this great knowledge. May Allah reward you brother Paul for your work on your channel. ❤❤❤

Thank you so much brother Paul, for finally hosting our favourite Sheikh (Professor Ali Ataie) what a deep and scholarly presentation. May ALLAH (SWT) rewards both of you.

Magisterial is indeed right. This felt more like an epic journey than an academic lecture. Amazing stuff. Alhamdou Lillah for blessing us with Islam, and for people like Brother Paul and Professor Ali Ataie. Thank you all for this incredibly informative, faith-affirming engagement.

Finally, more of Dr. ALI

Hope you recover from the cough soon Paul. Appreciate your effort to go through with this podcast despite it. May Allah reward you!

Always a pleasure, please have Dr. Ataie on more often!

Amazing lecture! I could listen to Dr. Ataie all day every day

an absolute banger of an episode! Please do more with Dr. Ali Ataie

wonderful lecture . many thanks to Dr Ali Ataie and to many thanks to you Paul for such great content, May Allah bless and protect you

Another great lecture 👍🏼. May Allah bless both of you brothers and reward you for sharing the truth. May Allah forgive all of our sins.

The only reason Ali Ataie is not as well known as Erhman is because Erhman has managed to write many books. In my opinion dr Ataie is far more knowledgeable though. He just needs to write some more books

I always get so many knowledge just by watching one video of Dr Ataie, thanks for this Paul!

A great lecture by your esteemed and knowledgeable guest Dr Ali Ataie , Thank you so much Brother Paul for this upload & Jazakoum Allah khayran for your fantastic channel .

Thank you again Dr. Ali Ataie and Paul. May Allah bless both of you.

Long awaited lecture. I suggest tgat those who haven't listened to the part one to fo that before this or at least after.

Thank you for this Paul. Dr. Ataie is my favorite guest on you channel. Can’t wait to sit back and drink from the fire-hose of knowledge.

So many things I need to do, yet I could not tear myself away from Dr. Ali Ataie's presentation. He's knowledge is so expansive and well documented I feel compelled to take notes to assist in retaining it all. As well as benefiting from it. It obliterates all doubts about the validity of the faith. Masha Allah. Thanks to Brother Paul's successful platform. Insha Allah.

May Allah bless and reward brother Paul and Dr.Ali Ataie ❤

He is one of the few for whom I'd spend hours to listen

Bravo ! Je vous suis de France; j'apprends beaucoup de choses en matière de théologie et en même temps j'améliore mon anglais !

Can't get enough of Dr. Ataie! :)

The thing with the Christians always bringing up the apocryphal gospels and things outside of the Torah is that they are ironically portraying the Prophet Muhammad(pbuh&f) to be probably the most knowledgable biblical scholar of all time.

Thanks brother paul williams and may Allah give you good health and thanks to brother ali attai for this academic presentation

Jazakallah khair uncle Paul I requested for this video if I'm not wrong not sure if you saw my request and made it anyways Allah humma bariq.

34 mins into the video and I've jotted a page long. Wow! Loads of information here. Jazakumulahu khair.

First time coming back to KZfaq and blogging theology and already the best video ever is up MashaAllah keep it up brother Paul ❤

It's disheartening that you don't have a million or two subscribers yet Mr Paul, your channel is marvelous

I am a Muslim and an Arab, but I find that Muslims have a problem in understanding the universality of Islam... when European and American Muslims change their names to Arabic names, and this is something that is neither binding nor necessary, and at the same time they preserve the Arabic word (Allah) as if God is a proper name, like Muhammad, other than It is translatable, although (Allah) is God in English, and Dieu in French, and Dio in Spanish, but the West intended to preserve the name of Allah in the Arabic pronunciation in order to say that Islam is a local Arab religion and not a global religion, and the Islamic Allah becomes like Jehovah, the God of the Jews, and this is a Western trick.

Thank you Dr Ali and Blogging Theology.

One of the best Biblical podcasts on KZfaq so far.

Excellent presentation by Dr. Ali Ataie. It's always a pleasure listening and learning from Dr. Ali. A ocean of knowledge. Really enjoyed this. Learned a lot and make me hungry to learn and inquire more. Thanks Sir Paul for hosting Dr. Ali. May Allah bless both of you. Can't wait to see Dr. Ali Ataie discussing many more topics.

Much anticipated ❤

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:02 📜 Introduction to the discussion with Dr. Ali Ataie 01:22 🧐 What the Quran is doing with the Christian tradition 05:28 📖 Quranic criticism of Christian beliefs 08:03 📜 Historical context of the New Testament Canon 16:09 📚 What defines a Christian and the role of the Catholic Church 23:33 🕰️ Misconceptions about the Council of Nicaea and the Canon 23:48 📜 Origins of the New Testament Canon 26:21 🕰️ Canon Misconceptions 27:29 📖 Criteria for Canonical Books 34:10 📜 Matthew's Gospel and Pauline Christianity 43:12 📖 Attribution of Mark and Matthew 47:06 📜 Preservation of the Quran and Early Christian Canon 51:32 🕊️ Trinity and Early Christian Beliefs 56:56 📜 Quoting Apocryphal Texts and the Question of Truth 01:09:33 📜 Historical and literary analysis of biblical texts 01:13:01 📜 Janus and Jambres in early Christian writings 01:15:34 📜 Historical plausibility of stories about Jesus and Mary 01:21:21 📜 The uniqueness of John's Gospel 01:28:51 📜 Paul's references to pagan sources 01:30:56 📖 The Method of Incorporating Diverse Texts 01:32:09 📜 Plausibility of Statements Attributed to Jesus 01:33:45 📚 Authenticity of Statements About Jesus in the Quran 01:35:49 🌟 Plausibility of the Virgin Birth 01:50:04 📖 Mary's Defense and Plausible Origin of Virgin Birth Belief 01:53:09 🌟 Jesus and his birth 01:58:58 📜 Quranic view of Jesus 02:04:47 📜 Jesus' teachings in the Quran 02:07:23 📜 Old Testament Apocrypha and New Testament 02:14:52 🕍 Jesus and the Feast of Dedication Made with HARPA AI

Jazaakumullaahu khairan brother Paul for the wonderful discussion

Great job my teacher I wish you success.Thank so much You and your guest

salaam from Santa Fe, New Mexico

Alhamdulillah for your lecture, both of you 😊 BTW, syafakallah brother Paul..

Alhamdulillah. Thank you for sharing this for us. Brother Paul and Dr ali. I learn so many new words today. Love it. 👍

May Allah guide and reward the presenter and the host. Very informative and fantastic MashaAllah

Thank you Paul thank you for being so informative , May Allah grant you and your guest amongst the highest levels of Jannah

This is such a good video. I can't even. I need to watch this 45 more times. I've already watched it 4 times. Insane amount of details

Thank you both for this great content.

Liking the vocal inflection when Hajji Paul said "AsalamuAlayKUM, Sir"... Upgrade from "you're most WELCOME, Sir" 🤔

Nice. its Dr. Ali again🎉

Gotta love it when the guest is an Iranian non Shia, orthodox traditional Sunni Muslim.

As salaamu ‘alaykum! Both Sheikh Hamza Yusuf Mark Hanson and Dr. Ali Ataie are the very best that the world has on these matters. Their approaches are extremely respectful; they are both deeply knowledgeable, unique and the very best I have ever heard! Thank you, Paul, for such remarkable interviews. God bless you! BAFS

We're still waiting for Part 2 of this series regarding engagement with Jewish traditions.

Many thanks both for this informative program.

Salam, Brother a suggestion make sure your Ali Ataie playlist is updated with all the videos of Ali Ataie. Thank you

JazakAllahu khairan Brother Paul and Dr Ali Ataie. May Allah protect you both, Ameen ya Rab.

Fantastic !!! Cant wait to listen inshallah ☺️☺️👌👌

Great interview.

Salam alaykoum. What a wonderful discussion wow... Thank you so much !

I would love to see Ali Ataie debating Bart Ehrman on this subject.

Could we get like a PDF for this. Would be amazing! Pretty please

Surely this presentation was majesterial

Thank you Blogging Theology for facilitating this. And thank you Dr Ali Ataie for sharing your knowledge. May Allah reward you in this life and after life. In part 1, there was a link to the slide. Mind sharing slide for this part too?

Fantastic!! Plus, I see Paul’s got the Hajj Flu. Allahu Yashfeehi

Learning much from this thank both of you.

Salam Alaykum and Thank you very much for the very educational lecture.! Its always a blessing when I see Dr Ali Ataie with a new teaching

MashaAllah brothers great work, may Allah Azzawajjal bless you both, ameen

How do we not have an Ataie and Ehrman stream yet Paul?! Make it happen, please 🙏 bring them together

Phenomenal as always, mashallah. Paul, when can we anticipate part 2? Also, is there any update on when we can hope for Dr. Ataie's book to be released?

More of Dr. Atai please

All universities across the Globe need Prof. Ali Ataie lectures to deliver the World to the truth of Islam.

Dr ali is the dude!!

May the almighty God bless you my brother

Longing for part 3 on Jewish scripture and Dhu'l-Qarnayn!

Amazing work. Keep it up. Alhamdulillah! ♥♥♥

I so appreciate these brothers. May Allah reward them both.

Wake up babe new blogging theology Ali Ataie video just dropped

The birth of Jesus (pbuh) is a sign for the children of Israel. In fact, the children of Israel had the law, and thought that they had reached the highest level of knowledge of God and his attributes, and were proud. God sends them a symbolic message, to say that I am sending you someone who will teach you spirituality, which is above the simple knowledge of the law, but which is the knowledge of the essence of the law, and his birth and his life symbolize the break with the common law of things (every child is born of a father and a mother), just as what he will teach you is a deeper vision of the law.

an truly fascinating session

My favorite episodes, couldnt click any faster 😁

Amazing beautiful .... great sharing 🇲🇾

MasyaAllah, Tabarak Allah.... this is PURE GOLD. Alhamdulillah

Thank you for this meaty presentation. No doubt that Dr. Ataie brings forth solid scholarship; however, what stands out for me throughout his presentations -- time and again -- is when he resorts to common sense to drive his points home, usually when he goes like this: "imagine ......" Dr. Ataie knows how to simplify his arguments, and simple is powerful, truth is meant to be simple for everyone to have a fair shot at understanding it using uncorrupted common sense.

JazakumAllahu khayr brothers for this excellent presentation. Another important concept to point out would be the agrapha which are sayings of Jesus PBUH that are not found in the canonical gospels but are still accepted by Hellenistic Christians.

Some of this part lecture is definitely deserve their own shorts clips

The NT wasn't final until 16th cen?!? Thats mad! Why are Christians crying on the quran when their book is basically 2k after jesus! Thats more than the OT and mosis!

Sheer brilliance!

he'd (pbuh) have to be more expert than the biblical scholars of the time in order to consume the apocryphal and regurgitate it piecemeal in a relevant fashion. Also, he'd have to be more expert than the most literarily skilled people of the time to recite verses that could only be described as "magic" by the best poets of the time. All while hiding this under an elaborate scam that shows him to be ignorant of both from 100s of people who weren't know to be liars themselves, who dedicated their lives to know everything about him and reported him to be truthful. a mass conspiracy that needs supernatural ability.

Nice video. Even though I am not that interested in Christianity this lecture is a good case study of textual analysis and criticism

SubhanAllah Alhamdulillah Allahuakbar

A good scholar is the one who brings clarity. Thus I think Dr Ali is one of the best scholars because his lecture brings so much light to our understanding. I wish he would write the contents as a book so it can be passed on, disseminated, criticized by people. One that sadden me was the quote of Eusebius quoting Papias on the original books of Mark and Matthew. If it was true, how dare people deleted those books from human memories and replaced them with the current falsely attributed gospels … the proto Mark could be very well the Q, and the original gospel of Matthew could be an original non Pauline gospel.

I appreciate the amazing load of knowledge provided by Dr.Ali Ataie, may Allah preserve him and strengthen his Faith. And I also would like to call those who for example despise Sheikh Al Islam Ibn Taymiyyah because of ignorance to investigate him a little bit for he was a masterclass at calling out different sects. I noticed unfortunately a raise of a certain category of Muslims who spit in the face of many scholars such as Ibn Al Uthaymeen, Ibn Baz, Al Fawzan, Al Madkhali...etc while not knowing that they are as marvelous as the Doctor here or even more in term of their academical depth. With that being said I ask Allah to give us sincerity in the quest for knowledge and to give us success in the implementation of it. Assalam Alaikum.

Paul's many KZfaq videos, enhanced my iman of the Islamic faith & made me believe beyond doubt that Islam is the right path. Im lucky im in this faith & may i remain in this faith until i die. Insya-Allah 🤲

Great as always