Blood Boiling Decisions, RWC Agony & Road to Redemption | Rugby Pod with Ireland's Andrew Porter

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It’s been a few weeks but the pain is still palpable - Ireland’s powerhouse prop Andrew Porter joins the lads to discuss the agony of another quarter final exit for the men in green, blood boiling officials decisions and the arrival of a World Cup Winning Coach to Leinster.
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0:00 RWC Agony
11:00 Scrum Time
17:00 Greatest Family in Rugby
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@yorkymc 6 ай бұрын

Andrew in my eyes is just a class Lad with deep respect to him 75year old fan here oh and what a player God Bless

@Joe-ns4cg 6 ай бұрын

Oh yeah how class he was claiming to have defused a bomb squad xD What a dolt, this guy got pummeled for 80 minutes against the Boks losing lineout after lineout and scrum after scrum, then taking the credit for the win xD Andrew Porter and that shit winger in his Irish team, and the French too while we're at it, can suck the massive D of Rassie Erasmus and Siya Kolisi Love From SA

@josephsweeney4219 6 ай бұрын

Nice to see what Porter is like in real life. He alwys looks like an utter madman on the pitch with that stare. Good to know he's a regular, humble guy with a good sense of humor to him.

@oldman774 4 ай бұрын

That goes for most rugby players, off the pitch they are real people

@dgoodall 6 ай бұрын

Monster of a player on the field, clearly an absolute gent off the field. Credit to the game.

@johnmartin7370 6 ай бұрын

This guy is simply SPECIAL. He is such a nice , honest, hard working, concerned citizen who cares for everyone and even though he is literally larger than life, a Giant, is determined to be honest about grief, mental health and recovery. As a Supporter I think we have a lot to learn from him ... Great interview. Thanks ladzzes.

@danmack5626 6 ай бұрын

What a guy. This was a great chat thanks lads!

@wesrobmat 6 ай бұрын

What a Lekker dude. Sorry you guys didn’t get through to the semis.

@user-tk5hl2tj6k 6 ай бұрын

Great man,great player. Fine margins. Different day,different ref ,ireland win

@vereelliott6556 6 ай бұрын

Great lad Andrew Porter 👍🏻 Great show guys 👏🏻

@peter821028 6 ай бұрын

Best post RWC interview I’ve seen…..utterly fascinating to listen to a world class player and the affects of missing out on the cup by millimetres..

@user-hu7rn4ym8j 6 ай бұрын

Miss by an inch……miss by a mile…….you are still using imperial measurement…….South Africa converted to metric a long time ago…..4 world cups is the result….🏆🏆🏆🏆

@jeffrey89095 6 ай бұрын

@@user-hu7rn4ym8jhe said millimetre....that's metric 🤣

@cateym 4 ай бұрын

@@user-hu7rn4ym8jsuch a gobshite

@harryocallaghan8082 6 ай бұрын

Amazing that he only switched over from tighthead to loosehead prop 3/4 years ago. Definitely in the top 2/3 loos heads in world rugby. 27 years of age and already at 60 caps for Ireland. Exact same situation as James Ryan. The way he’s going he’ll get to 100 caps by 30. Don’t think I’ve seen him injured once in the last 6/7 years. The man’s a beast and he makes 350kg look easy in the squat. Classy player and bloke!

@somenamethatdoesntmatter 6 ай бұрын

Boys a beast of an athlete, expect him to come out firing in the 6n

@IrishInsomniac76 6 ай бұрын

We were all there with you in spirit Andrew. You did all of us proud and we have shared your process of mourning. The whole squad earned great respect from Ireland fans and global rugby fans alike.

@aidanmasterson50 6 ай бұрын

Absolute beast! Porter is still on an upward curve despite being already recognised as on of the rugby worlds best loose-heads. It would not surprise me if he were a tight head in the next World Cup. He has some engine.

@prichard2151 6 ай бұрын

Gives away ALOT of penalties

@rob.1 6 ай бұрын

Strange there isnt a proper debrief for players who get knocked out like that. Would have thought with all the sports psychology these days that there would be a system in place to look after players more, to help them with the loss.

@greatwhitesharky3261 6 ай бұрын

it's a game you make it sound like the have just returned from some tour of duty.

@pizzaloco 6 ай бұрын

⁠@@greatwhitesharky3261it’s not a game for professionals, it’s your full time job and your life’s work for the past 4/8/12 years. All that build up and then suddenly nothing, it would seriously have an effect on you.

@greatwhitesharky3261 6 ай бұрын

@@pizzaloco you get paid for it, it’s only a job. Sure you feel gutted after losing but life moves on. It’s only sport.

@Jan-rr5hh 6 ай бұрын

Now I understand why NH won only one WC.

@polobhuilean5217 6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 yep ye have better animals in the SH, the NH just hasn’t got enough animals like Esbet, Cane etc 🎉… also having the natives from the smaller islands does help.. The NH have cottoned on to that slight of hand, with Bundee tearing holes in the Blaks and Saffers defensive lines. In the Ireland game vs AB’s Madame barnes seriously gave the scrum away by default and very poor decision making to the Blaks, thus cutting the Irish ☘️ attack by one third. The self inflicted Irish line out snafu was exposed by the Boks, continued into the quarter’s which the AB’s exploited to the full, so laying waste to Irelands quick attack…. But the piece de résistance was the Barret saving try tackle, that would have put Ireland 🇮🇪 through to the semii’s, what a brilliantly timed and executed tackle 🎉…. So long Jonny, y’a played yer heart ❤️ out, but yer olde mate Madame barnes had the last laugh on y’a and on the Blaks in the final ….. Finally, the minute the Irish and the French failed to progress, half the television viewers turned it off as the NH has no real interest in watching a SH final in Paris…. So a word of advice to the RWC dikheads, make sure that y’a put the best sides on either side of the draw, y’a useless idiot’s 🎉 Just saying 😎….

@johndevoy5792 6 ай бұрын

definitely definitely, as he said, when Irl. & Fr. went out, the whole tournament took a nose dive. No doubt about it. It was the final everyone was hoping for - Fr. & Irl - and what's-more it would have been the ideal final for world rugby in general. Would have given such a shot in the arm for countries such as Portugal, Georgia, Chile etc rather than 'same-old-same-old ( With all due respect to NZ & SA) Actually there is nothing but a casual or careless decision by a Ref. between the top 4, Irl, Fr, NZ SA (or 5 if we incl Eng. too! who defied the odds and came to the boil nicely!)

@theruffiankj4164 6 ай бұрын

You’re never more vulnerable than when you’re at your most powerful. This is true of all sport. The Irish have just learned this; as have the French. The AB’s and Boks have learned this lesson many times before…

@davidpeters3857 6 ай бұрын

Excellent content….lovely guy

@markcrossman3356 6 ай бұрын

Good man, I feel his disappointment. Life just not fair sometimes.

@dazza9859 6 ай бұрын

The World Cup organisers need need to equalise the gaps between games.New Zealand had two weeks to recover before the quarter final and Ireland only had a week.

@Testis69 6 ай бұрын

that is the luck of the draw i suppose

@willemsteyn7808 6 ай бұрын

That is why you need a SQUAD to win the WC. Not the same 15 game after game after game after game.

@brucefale6132 6 ай бұрын

Get over it

@matth3004 6 ай бұрын

Might have been 50/50 calls that went against both Ireland and France but both teams had opportunities in their respective quarter finals up against 14 men and didn't capitalise

@johnmc3862 6 ай бұрын

Indeed though I think France were particularly unlucky with calls. Both games could have gone either way.

@thesaintirl 6 ай бұрын

Critical point

@tommiepower5474 6 ай бұрын

💯... Ireland should just took the penalties and added up the points instead to going for the lineouts and getting nothing from them

@cbowesey 6 ай бұрын

Barnes has a history with Ireland. Losing a scrum on your own feed with an extra man says it all 😬

@matmul4850 6 ай бұрын

@tommiepower5474 exactly, just like New Zealand in the final. Going for the corner almost always results in a big fat nothing.

@markoconnor959 6 ай бұрын

Both semi finals: France vs SA and Ireland vs NZ. The two best games of rugby I’ve watched.

@patrickyoung3503 6 ай бұрын

Great interview , nice to see the Andrew in civies & enjoying everyday things . I played at junior level & met a few characters. The game is off the scale nowadays I wouldn't even patrol the line in case of getting run over . Congratulations on doing so well in the WC . Amazing return for such a small country .

@paulnash5500 6 ай бұрын

I’m an Irish rugby fan and I was bitterly disappointed when we lost to NZ. I’m only over it now, kind of. Buck sake! 😢 But anyways, the IRFU should definitely have some sort of plan in place to help the team to deal with a loss like this together. Listen, nobody died, but these guys were building for this RWC for years and were living together away from their family’s etc. That’s a huge commitment. You can still hear it in Andrew’s voice, that it still hurts big time. Jesus, it’s all coming back. FFS 🤦‍♂️ There should be some sort of therapy for the poor fans too 😉🏈. Best of luck to all and drink helps🍻😁 joke.

@user-qr5ki8ls2x 6 ай бұрын

I look at it all differently. It's good. It's good to feel pain and sadness. How do we think the AB players and fans feel? What's on their mind already? Vengeance.... in a good way. They'll be intent on taking back their No1 spot over the next few seasons and getting ready to go again for next WC. Pain channeled to drive even more positive intent. It's good that Porter and other players hurts but he'll know the answer isn't therapy, it's drive to play better and play harder

@willemsteyn7808 6 ай бұрын

Hilarious 😂

@ritzemaritzema-xo4dz 6 ай бұрын

Springboks will do it 5the time again😂

@kenmonahan9924 6 ай бұрын

I was lucky to be in the front row of seats on the 22 amongst the families, it was heartbreaking. Was 3 feet away from Andrew and his wife he was absolutely broken, as was Bundee. I had a hug with big Jack Conan and I never felt so proud to be Irish being there with our big family. Thanks to Andy Farrell for reinforcing the great strength of Irish people. I finally dared to watched the match back and for me the two errors that cost us the game was the penalty miss (Jonny can usually get those in his sleep) and Conor Murray pulling the jumper down and conceding a penalty. One thing stuck with from that game, my ticket was half the cost because it was restricted view (even though in the front row), never realised till then that Flats who was on the touch line on front of me had such an enormous head on him…….😊

@jamesmurphy1389 6 ай бұрын

Great talk with a lovely fella, gentleman! - Bottom line: scrums need to be massively de-regulated and liberated from the clutches of the referee. One rule only: no deliberate collapsing. That apart, the ref should allow everything: driving sideways, front row standing up, knees on ground - who cares! - Just let the ball come out willy nilly. This will make the scrum-half work for his glory and keep the game flowing. What do you think? I can't see any drawbacks to my idea. 😎

@user-xj5ks9yj8n 6 ай бұрын

what? so weak scrumming teams can turn scrums into an absolute abortion and strong scrumming teams gain nothing but a shambles?

@johnbenefield922 6 ай бұрын

Great chat gents.

@hughjanus2020 6 ай бұрын

Bloody love bloke Tadgh Furlong. Awesome prop. Great interview chaps.

@BillPatten-zh6lx 6 ай бұрын

Great interview! I just watched a KZfaq video on a channel called Veratasium concerning happiness that echoes what Andrew is saying. Interesting information that's relevant beyond the game.

@janhbhugo5085 6 ай бұрын

Ireland was the best team in the tournament that lost ! Next time mate !

@mitch2924 6 ай бұрын

Clearly that doesn’t make them the best team in the tournament. SA would have beaten them of Pollard played and the AB beat in the QF. Don’t see how you can justify them as the best team? Generally the best team in the tournament wins it.

@davidsavage4819 6 ай бұрын

Fuck me you've got an answer for everything

@user-hu7rn4ym8j 6 ай бұрын

Let the Irish and rest of the whinging teams whine for another 4 years……and then we can beat them again…….we’ll done South Africa………4 world cups……Matt Damon 1 World Cup win and Irish………….zero………😂😂😂😂@@mitch2924

@barra6709 6 ай бұрын

@@mitch2924they said as much the last 3 times they played Ireland too.

@Powertoyah32 6 ай бұрын

@@mitch2924SA got a try out of a penalty that hit the post so if it was scored your taking away 5 points from SA, also of of the penalties was on the half way line so that’s not a given either, if Ireland had a good line out they would of scored another try, but we will never know, they game was played and Ireland won

@fergalmackle1351 6 ай бұрын

Great interview, seems a great lad

@lizzyhanahoe4197 6 ай бұрын

Please get Caelan Doris on, must hear his stories! Great interview, nice to see the other side of Andrew Porter, he can look pretty scary on the fields!

@conormaloney4796 6 ай бұрын

Good interview.

@Quilty2 6 ай бұрын

Great interview lads 👍

@janalock6267 6 ай бұрын

As a Springbok supporter who had to watch the RWC 2011 game between South-Africa and Australia, I fully understand that players feels cheated in this RWC. I honestly believe that in the lifespan of any rugbyplayers career, some calls will go your way and some will not, the sting is just way worse when it happens during the RWC and it costs you a place in the final.

@aidanmarten9764 6 ай бұрын

Good luck to you Andy Rowe we will miss you even if other 2 won't 😂😊

@peterkenny7810 6 ай бұрын

Great show!

@mikezog1030 6 ай бұрын

The main knowledge that Ireland should take away is the knowledge of how much energy and fatigue kicks in after a few weeks of high intensity games. I think they underestimated it and by the time they played NZ after SA, Tonga and Scotland, they were looking a bit flat footed. They should have trusted their squad depth more and allowed for more rest by the main squad players.

@ds6914 6 ай бұрын

Aw, he's so nice, what a contrast 🤣

@conalmcmenamin3791 6 ай бұрын

It still hurts...

@tinyikoshibambo8167 6 ай бұрын

As a fan, I'd take the 50/50 calls any day because that has ALWAYS been a part of the game, what I cannot take anymore is the unnecessary involvement of the TMO at times, especially because they are so inconsistent in their calls. Both teams have 80min, let the game flow and allow the "HUMAN" refs to make mistakes here and there and let's the scoreboard stand at the end of the game, that's it. New saffa subscriber!

@billbobby461 6 ай бұрын

No I totally disagree I want MORE TMO intervention not less. If the infringement is made it should be penalised or dealt with appropriately not ignored. Why allow teams to continue the gamesmanship tactics when we can stop them and finally tidy the sport up. Do you want rugby to be a minor niche sport for forever? They say its because the rules are too complicated but they aren't they just aren't enforced consistently so no-one casually watching can tell why one thing was OK and another wasn't so can't understand it

@tinyikoshibambo8167 6 ай бұрын

stalemate on this one, let's agree to disagree....I can assure you, the more stop/starts in the game because of TMO that's the end of rugby as we know it. Consistency is key, be it the Ref or the TMO but you cannot kill off a high intensity game just for the TMO and Ref to debate the interpretations of the rule book. TMO should be more for "dangerous play etc." but not for the "Play"...., @billbobby461

@billbobby461 6 ай бұрын

@tinyikoshibambo8167 why not? If the players infringe then they should be penalised? Why allow them to get away with it? Who's ruining the game really are the players not the referees. So as a spectator I want the game refereed to the rules across the board, not some fantasy of "flow" that didn't exist. Penalise the players that stop the flow. And to make things clear here the only reason there was any painfully long decisions to make during the world Cup was for the SH sides, NH sides are used to the implementation of the laws and play accordingly, Curry got a red card and should never have been questioned, Etzebeth should also have gotten red on Antonio, just like how Cane deserved it against Kriel. The reason the decisions took any time was because of world rugby trying to adapt to allow for the spectacle rather than the sport. It's ridiculous.

@tinyikoshibambo8167 6 ай бұрын

of course infringements should be penalised, I'm not saying they shouldn't, but if it means involving the TMO every 2min then I might as well watch cricket. I'll say it again, the key is consistency from both TMO & Refs with the same understanding & interpretations of the rules, that would have a ripple effect of actually having a flowing game as the Ref would be given all the confidence required to make the right calls@@billbobby461

@johnbenefield922 6 ай бұрын

Well said kiwi here tmo and card protocols need revisiting with urgency to try and get some consistency in the officiating. We'll done springboks worthy 4x WC champs.

@andrewkelly7799 6 ай бұрын

Shocking decisions in RWC NZ v IRE - Fainga try was clearly forward pass. The video circulated after world cup shows this only for history sake. On another day with another referee, Ireland had won (ignoring other inch opportunities). The same, only worse, applies to France's defeat by SA Here, Smith had hands on ground, no penalty. Incorrect penalty call against Dupoint at line gives Etzebeth an incorrect try. (Dupont releases ball and regathers in replay). All that apart from the early run by Klobe. If I was French, I'd probably consider giving up watching rugby, I have never seen a team more unjustly robbed in any tournament. In this game, decisions against Porter going in at an angle were clearly wrong. Anyone who's played front row rugby know the story: the scrum turned and Porter held up, looking like he's at the wrong angle. If scrum calls are 50:50 correct, or 50:50 wrong!!!! then the rules should be changed (award an indirect free kick), so that a huge advantage isn't give for a wrong call.

@ciaranbrk 4 ай бұрын

We can look it in hindsight. But the scrum was infuriating we clearly won the scrums but got shafted. He had our chances though but didn't take them.

@DeMontarey 6 ай бұрын

Rather than focus on the 50/50s would it not be more constructive to discus opportunities not used? the 50/50 will always be there and there is nothing you can do about it, but making use of your opportunities is within your control.

@Driver2616 6 ай бұрын

All scrum penalties should now be reduced to free kicks only. Unless there’s some obvious case of foul play or assault! Change the laws.

@iceswallowgum8540 6 ай бұрын

They tried that years ago I’m pretty sure. Around pre 2011 World Cup but it felt confusing to watch cause you had barely any time to see what happened

@Driver2616 6 ай бұрын

@@iceswallowgum8540: Who barely had any time?

@mikezog1030 6 ай бұрын

Until a team moans about teams using free kicks to waste time while the game winds down.

@Driver2616 6 ай бұрын

@@mikezog1030: if that happens then we’ll have a Bernard Foley moment - penalised for wasting time and game lost as a consequence…

@mikezog1030 6 ай бұрын

There are no obvious cases in a scrum. It can be difficult to ref and the potential for danger to props/hookers especially is high. If they step out of line at all they must know they will be heavily penalised. That's why we need scrum penalties- or else someone gets hurt.

@peterwomersley 6 ай бұрын

Nigel Owens called the Kwagga Smith hand on ground a fair call

@Narapoia1 6 ай бұрын

As a Bok supporter I thought it was the wrong call, so was pretty surprised to hear Nigels take.

@jeffrey89095 6 ай бұрын

Nigel does that show on the world rugby channel, he's not going to undermine the world cup

@Narapoia1 6 ай бұрын

@@jeffrey89095 He's disagreed with other decisions in the past though

@jeffrey89095 6 ай бұрын

@@Narapoia1 he has but he always provides a caveat such as "I can see the interpretation but mine would be different". Love Nigel but he's just not going to slate a performance on the world rugby channel

@mollyoko 6 ай бұрын

yep Nigel is paid up now and not worth listening too. Shame as he was top class decision maker in his time unlike I'm a Lawyer Wayne Barnes@@jeffrey89095

@armin8768 6 ай бұрын

Kolisi’s hit on savea vs Cane on Kriel was not the same level of danger. Nowhere near..

@brucefale6132 6 ай бұрын

Head to head....shoulder to head. Both victims were struck to the head.

@ardri31 6 ай бұрын

As an Irishman that title pic is heartbreaking

@porcupineinapettingzoo 6 ай бұрын

Watching that game with a bunch of people not familiar with rugby, I celebrated Ireland's first scrum until I saw a which way the ref's hand was pointing, they asked what happened and I had no answer, 50/50 calls are one thing but four scrums, four penalties against Ireland is bizarre, it's like the refs decide before the game which team has the better scrum and calls accordingly.

@pixelpotato4874 6 ай бұрын

Eminem?Nah he's gone for the Jerry Collins.

@jaredwilson28 6 ай бұрын

Loved the credit he gave to the All Blacks for playing out of their skin, and destroying their dreams.

@eugenefarrell1002 6 ай бұрын

Yeah...Congrats to the All Blacks for coming....2nd.

@jaredwilson28 6 ай бұрын

@@eugenefarrell1002 I’m fine. We’ve 3 in the bank 🤷🏾‍♂️

@Nic0909 6 ай бұрын

They should stop penalties at scrum unless it's foul play. Give free kicks and keep the game going

@mitch2924 6 ай бұрын

That’s what they doing, penalties are being award for foul play at scrum time and free kicks are given if not a serious foul i.e pushing to early. That is a stupid comment.

@TaydoS 6 ай бұрын

So teams should scrum illegally and risk serious injury, just so your team can win without being able to scrummage properly???🤡 Teams should improve their scrums and Andrew Porter should scrum better...end of.

@caseyjones831 6 ай бұрын

Porter was dreadful against NZL😂😢

@DaSkonk 6 ай бұрын

@@caseyjones831utter twaddle, give over.

@ciaranbrk 6 ай бұрын

@@caseyjones831he destroyed the abs scrum Barnes was just getting those scrum calls wrong all day the abs tighthead degroot couldn’t take the pressure and kept collapseing and Porter wasn’t boring in.

@brianmbiriri2724 6 ай бұрын

These sportsmen and women need sports psychologists in the team structures to help them manage diverse situations that they face.

@user-hu7rn4ym8j 6 ай бұрын

Like losing …again

@Ballas56 6 ай бұрын

They will have the mental scars forever.

@markshields5883 6 ай бұрын

Its about time world rugby give Ireland and there brilliant fans a world cup

@dazza4345 6 ай бұрын

The Ireland team or fans never built up the team .It was international media.However remember they did beat the world cup winners in the tournament. So I say your point is baseless.😅

@dazza4345 6 ай бұрын

Or do you mean host a tournament.That won't happen unless the GAA release their stadiums.

@kenrehill8775 6 ай бұрын

Not enough available stadiums, not enough hotels, crap infrastructure. Ireland has more chance of winning a quarter final game than it does of hosting an RWC

@kenrehill8775 6 ай бұрын

@@dazza4345 it was also the fans, we had to put up with their whining about being the best for the last year.

@RazorMouth 6 ай бұрын

@@dazza4345GAA stadiums were part of the 2023 bid to be hosts and we still didnt get it.

@drikuslourens1854 6 ай бұрын

sa vs fra QF best game

@galinor7 6 ай бұрын

Did you notice that. The European sides who played SANZR teams under European refs generally just about won in the pool stages, while SANZAR teams under SANZAR refs just about won in the Semis. Interesting. Another ref on another day! If you want to grow the competition. Adding in more meaningless blow outs in the next WC, simply won't do it. Particularly if the same old, same old sides make the semis and finals again. I can watch SA Vs NZ anytime. Just anytime.

@hec8 6 ай бұрын

Love Big Jim but would also love his questions to be a bit more clearly formulated - he's got such an active mind, they are usually jumping all over the place with different asides and mini anecdotes!

@austingtir 6 ай бұрын

This is how bad Wayne Barnes has been to NZ everyone knows that a normal winning percentage is for NZ its 70 to 80+ % and sometimes higher: "Since Wayne Barnes refereed the 2007 loss to France, Barnes has refereed 11 All Blacks games involving IRE, FRA or AUS. NZ have lost 6 for a winning percentage of 45%. NZ has played Australia 50 times since sept 2007, losing only 6 times- Barnes has refereed half of those loses." Now that he's gone NZ's winning percentage per year will be up by atleast 10% so the rest of the world better look out. Barney wont be around to save you guys from here on out.

@mattvader2023 6 ай бұрын

Doos

@Sunflower-dt6ev 4 ай бұрын

The FIRST scrum call may have been 50/50, but the next TWO penalties were Porter being an idiot & not ADJUSTING.

@ciaranbrk 4 ай бұрын

NZ painted that picture they couldn't deal with an agressive scrum and Barnes fell for it trying to make up for 07

@jonathanmaguire1198 6 ай бұрын

Ireland and France should have capitalised when it was 50/50 calls , but if New Zealand and South Africa lose they referee receives dead treats, the tmo and the rules need to be changed and they cry cry cry. Look at the way New Zealand behaved after final and you can guarantee if South Africa lost Rassie would have been crying about it publicly for the next 4years

@markdanielleanderson4323 6 ай бұрын

You're hating on world champion teams and fans. Why? Because your team wasn't good enough?

@MrJohnNel 6 ай бұрын

Ireland always get knocked out at the quarter final stage, so their expectations were met.

@carldavis9059 6 ай бұрын

Chokers will always be remembered for that

@mattlaw8866 6 ай бұрын

Mr grip spray...

@lewisthornton3 6 ай бұрын

???

@wot4922 6 ай бұрын

Please no mullet...just a mohawk 😂

@austingtir 6 ай бұрын

Ireland were pulling back on the scrums rotating them without going forward first also boring in. Those were plain as day penalties that Ireland fully deserved to receive. Those were not 50/50 calls. And frankly Ireland were kept in the game by other real 50/50 calls by barnes. The game shouldnt of been close if it was officiated properly the AB's were significantly better but everytime they were about to put Ireland away Barney saved Ireland. Barnes is a terrible ref for NZ he always shafts them. Going forward NZ's win loss percent per year will be way up just not having him ref their games. And for those that dont believe me a 2 second google brought this up: "Since Wayne Barnes refereed the 2007 loss to France, Barnes has refereed 11 All Blacks games involving IRE, FRA or AUS. NZ have lost 6 for a winning percentage of 45%. NZ has played Australia 50 times since sept 2007, losing only 6 times- Barnes has refereed half of those loses. "

@TheFinalJedster613 6 ай бұрын

He lost his head in the biggest of games, scrum penalty after scrum penalty, could see it in his eyes looking at Barnes

@Sia_Meleni 6 ай бұрын

The difference in these guys and our Players the Boks is we don't think we deserve anything. But his attitude it's like he was robbed. You will never be a champion with that type of attitude. Ireland need to humble themselves and just continue working hard. U must accept not every decision will go your way. Remember the maul in Ireland's 5 meter and the ball was available for BOKS but the ref blew the whistle. And we lost to Ireland.

@cigh7445 6 ай бұрын

The Boks would have beaten Ireland if Pollard was on the field. As regards attitude and humbleness I don't think you can say much, in fairness. Nobody complains more about referees than Razzy. And it's easier to be humble when big decisions more often go your way, as opposed to the opposite. South Africa have a history of decisions going their way against France in WCs for example. The big decisions went their way in all three ko games. And some South African commentary was absolutely ridiculous after the Munster Stormers URC final last year. I say that as someone who can't stand a lot of the Irish commentary too. The Irish players are as humble as those of any other team, Saffas included. The idea of them not being humble can only be a projection based on the no. 1 ranking they had, and the overconfidence of one or two annoying arrogant commentators who got under the skin of most Irish fans as much as anyone else.

@richjackson8349 6 ай бұрын

Both teams tried to play THEIR rugby instead of winning rugby at all costs, and paid the price. As soon as I saw Porter crying in the anthems and the Foley 8 for the Haka, I knew Ireland were not purely 100% focused on the core objective. Going for the corner early just underlined it - the ABs deserved the win but Ireland played into their hands.

@RazorMouth 6 ай бұрын

Ireland often go for the corners, all our wins against NZ were partly won by going for the corners. Hindsight is great but pointless.

@peeps977 6 ай бұрын

The Boks wante to play Ireland im the final, but it happen. The Springboks lost against Ireland but is was a olan all along to get them in the final, but NZ was hurt at Twickenham against the Boks. Nigel Owen said the Kwagga hand in the floor was a good call and play on. Siya was not even a yellow, and if played in slowmow, and you zoom it in..their heads did not it each other, shoulder on ball.

@gerardkelsh1011 6 ай бұрын

No way the boks lost on purpose against Ireland. Scotland and Ireland could have contrived a result to go through together. Why would the boks put themselves in that place?

@willemsteyn7808 6 ай бұрын

You don't get 50/50 calls go your way 100% of the time. Deal with it. You had almost all the 50/50 calls go your way in 2022...did not hear you complain then.🤫

@brandonstclair898 6 ай бұрын

How do these players recover from such a disappointment? The best team for so long…but not good enough to win the WC.

@kenrehill8775 6 ай бұрын

Best team for 18 months, be realistic, but in the end they’re just pretenders. ABs did em good.

@davidsavage4819 6 ай бұрын

So we're the kiwi's

@aliceomalley6215 6 ай бұрын

⁠@@kenrehill8775pretenders? What is that supposed to mean … in the end , it came to a 4 point game more like. Doesn’t take away from their achievements the past year

@DaSkonk 6 ай бұрын

@kenrehill8775 New Zealand the real pretenders, bottled that final - and everyone knows it. Including them!

@stephendoherty981 6 ай бұрын

@@aliceomalley6215Don't let Ken wind you up. He's a famous Irish hater hereabouts and never misses a chance to stick the boot. He's living in some kind of nirvana at the moment after Ireland getting knocked out of qfs again. Not sure why he hates the Irish so much. Ireland must have run off with his missus or something.

@mikerobertson7082 6 ай бұрын

‘Blame Wayne Barnes?”… come now Goody. Not even in jest. How do we expect the game to function without the possibility of human error by players or refs? Do we honestly feel there is a possibility of a game where we don’t have the 50:50 call debate and, in reality, accepting it as part of what is a simple and yet beautifully complex game? The constant focus on this isn’t helpful…

@mollyoko 6 ай бұрын

Barnes has been incompetent for many years, always inserting his ego into the game and is universally disliked but the rugby community. The blame ultimately lies with Bill Beaumont who kept presiding over this man being handed the biggest knockout games. Classic nepotism. Good riddance.

@Wolf-hh4rv 6 ай бұрын

Devastated by so many Springbok losses by such small margins over the last 30 years. SA has this thing about “the ref’s fault” bla bla. But I’m like we had 80 minutes to put that team away and we didn’t. So shut the fk up and wear it . We lost.

@christoffopperman5512 6 ай бұрын

It just to easy to blame the officials and take any responsibility off the players for poor decision making and mistakes they make.

@jacqloock 6 ай бұрын

Oddly not complaining about the scrum penalties won incorrectly gainst Saffers.

@barryk00da 6 ай бұрын

Would be a bit weird if he did, to be fair

@Driver2616 6 ай бұрын

Odd? How?

@brianmurray6287 6 ай бұрын

Different ref Ireland win.

@Zion66666 6 ай бұрын

Yeah…go for counselling. Need a few psychiatrists to work through those reasons for choking in 8 QFs.

@Driver2616 6 ай бұрын

Maybe he should have retired after the first one…. When was that?

@jornstobbe6735 6 ай бұрын

I suppose one of the differences between being an elite or an amateur sportsperson is having the bottle and character not to give up and go back for more. That’s actually WHY he has made it as a professional rugby player ie getting paid to do the thing he loves - while becoming one of the best toboot . Being able to deal with the inevitable disappointments that comes with professional sport I suppose has made the victories all that sweeter: European Champion, 2 time Grand Slam champion and 4 time league champion. What a chocker, I’m sure your trophy cabinet dwarfs Andrew’s in comparison.

@Zion66666 6 ай бұрын

@@jornstobbe6735 no matter how you try and spin it to make yourself feel better, everyone knows these players bottled it. And it’s not the first time. In sport, in life, there are real winners and there are those that bottle it at crucial moments. When a team bottles it 8 consecutive times it’s clear this is not just the ups and downs of winning and losing.

@RazorMouth 6 ай бұрын

@@Zion66666 i dont think you understand what the word choking means.

@Zion66666 6 ай бұрын

@@RazorMouth I understand perfectly. It means when the pressure is on you can’t get it up. Like in a QF.

@nepiahemopo1702 4 ай бұрын

He was a penalty magnet! Had the look of a man possessed.😢 He buckled.

@johnjames6620 6 ай бұрын

They seem desperate to say that were it not for the refs that Ireland would have won the RWC. And without imports, where would Ireland other nations have been?

@conormaloney4796 6 ай бұрын

The only nation with no imports was SA.

@johnjames6620 6 ай бұрын

@@conormaloney4796 Yeah! I think also Argentina.

@LeMerch 6 ай бұрын

@@johnjames6620 kind of a dumb way to look at it since they are PROJECT players.. they play for a club, and if they qualify for Ireland then they enter as a project player which is tough. Some of these guys weren't going to be near national teams but for Ireland investing in them and producing world class out of them thru the irish system. They didn't just get transferred from one country straight onto the irish team FFS.

@TaydoS 6 ай бұрын

@@LeMerch Yet with all of that "investing", they still can't get the QF monkey off Ireland's back. Maybe they should return to their countries of birth for the next WC.

@ciaranbrk 6 ай бұрын

They would have. Barnes got those scrum calls wrong. And without imports Ireland would still be a top team. Gibson park is being chased by Casey. Aki got in ahead Ona quality player McClusky, Lowe got in ahead of earls and there’s rally good wingers young wingers in Ireland Jimmy O’Brien who came on in the nz game and really made an impact, rob russell is up coming Tommy O’Brien too so so Ireland word still have been first and we will be getting that back soon I’m certain of that.

@truthseekerreal1 6 ай бұрын

Couldn't stand them or the french winning, i have always maintained that only England could win, yes England are not in the best place and need to get out of it, but they still have big game mentality

@Driver2616 6 ай бұрын

So how’d that one work out for ya… 😂

@truthseekerreal1 6 ай бұрын

still worked out better for England than it did for France and Ireland even with their worst team in world cup history, England have the resources if used correctly, but England have a better stronger mentality. @@Driver2616

@RazorMouth 6 ай бұрын

Maybe England will get a easy run to the semis again in 2027

@truthseekerreal1 6 ай бұрын

like all the teams England they have no say in the Draw, England were ranked 2nd at the time of the draw, you obviously don't understand to be 1st you have to beat everyone in front of you, England with a poor team got further because of their mindset, you are only disrespecting the other teams in England's group to make you feel better about your losing team

@GGdoogie 6 ай бұрын

Ireland choked on their own sense of entitlement

@RazorMouth 6 ай бұрын

Grow a brain

@user-ui9fm4vw7i 6 ай бұрын

Boks great cheaters !

@christohees9150 6 ай бұрын

Ireland droped out in the 1/4 again nothing new

@gerardkelsh1011 6 ай бұрын

That's not strictly true. Sometimes we didn't make the quarters. It won't stop us trying though. And we'll get there. It's inevitable.113 years to beat the abs. We're way ahead of schedule for a world cup.

@dazza4345 6 ай бұрын

The haters will hate

@christohees9150 6 ай бұрын

@@dazza4345 lol I'm not hating just stating facts

@bobgillies7589 6 ай бұрын

“Blame Wayne Barnes” ? What a dense comment. Scrums awarded for a basic infringement, so should not escalate to a penalty for what are 50:50 calls. Free kick every time if it goes down

@johncraig9011 6 ай бұрын

If Barnes reffed the scrums properly, Ireland win.

@caseyjones831 6 ай бұрын

Ireland fans need to calm down and get off the horse they put themselves on😂 you haven't been a rugby powerhouse for a full decade yet y'all keep talking like you've been the standard for 100 years 😢

@LeMerch 6 ай бұрын

No we don't. We are allowed get excited by our team. You're allowed cry about that if you want who cares. People love their teams and every single country has fans that go OTT. Every SINGLE country. You just hate the Irish and thats glaringly obvious. Stupid comment.

@dazza9859 6 ай бұрын

The international media put them there and their play.Why can’t you acknowledge they are a good team?.You don’t have to be at he standard for 100 years That has no bearing on a tournament.

@liamwilliams6651 6 ай бұрын

All I see is people saying that Ireland are cocky and yet I never see any comments of Irish fans actually being cocky. Funny that...

@Driver2616 6 ай бұрын

Ireland is a powerhouse rugby nation. France, Sth Africa & AB’s are also powerhouse nations. So what’s the problem.

@sulaimanvanderschyff6564 6 ай бұрын

The ultimate prize, the most gruelling tournament, teams must endure all challenges (scrums and refs, etc) to be called victorious, true champions bow to their victors.

@bg365 6 ай бұрын

Not sure I understand the reference to “blood boiling decisions”? New Zealand led the entire match, despite playing with 14 men for 20 minutes. It was a close game, Ireland weren’t good enough on the day. Disappointing yes, but never got ahead on the scoreboard at any point. NZ were deserved winners. Fair amount of comments about South Africa being lucky. Maybe, but it could be argued that they were unlucky in the pool game against Ireland. Importantly, they never moaned about it, lost like champions and focused on the rest of the tournament. England, Ireland and France, in particular, could take a leaf out of that book.

@Lucas-en3bt 6 ай бұрын

How about Nz take a leaf out of that book too? First statement fozzie made in his post match press conference was about the referees

@bernieone1 6 ай бұрын

They are still moaning about losing to Ireland in the groups 😂

@niallsheehan474 6 ай бұрын

The best news of the decade …….. Wayne ‘Maggie ‘ Barnes is gone. Good riddance.

@davidallardice1657 6 ай бұрын

Dont really think there were any 50/50 calls going against him. It's been very publically spoken about that he is always scrummaging illegally, cant believe these guys don't see that. Wayne Barnes was just the first ref in a while to actually be brave enough to call them out.

@aliceomalley6215 6 ай бұрын

He may have done it the first time, but he’s not stupid. He did not do it the next two times yet he was still penalised

@DaSkonk 6 ай бұрын

That's just an absolute nonsense comment, Ireland most certainly are NOT "always scrummaging illegally"; give over. And Barnes' refereeing in that match was a joke, and not just at scrumtime either. "Brave", my arse - he screwed them, and particularly Porter; basically making it up as he went along, and not for the first time either.

@Driver2616 6 ай бұрын

You must be watching rugby in some other quantum dimension. Because what you’ve just typed in there is way off the mark!!

@user-qr5ki8ls2x 6 ай бұрын

Barnes had reffed Ireland before? Why wait until the QF to be 'brave'? He spoke with players before the game? Did he let them know he'd be modifying his reffing for the QF? Porter did seem perplexed by decisions. If he was doing things wrong, his concerns seemed to be that he hadn't been informed of this by Barnes in previous games. Anyway..... the learnings (as all good rugby personnel seem to say these days) will be learned I'm sure.

@JouNaai1448 6 ай бұрын

At the end of the Ireland vs New Zealand game there was some afters because the Kiwi lads had a few jabs fot the Irish players. All the years the boks and kiwis played each other I've never seen AB players do that. So why did they do it with Ireland? Because they are the most annoying and arrogant country in world rugby.

@brucefale6132 6 ай бұрын

Their fans are a close second.

@graceface9286 6 ай бұрын

Based in what exactly!!??.

@Shandyboy8612 6 ай бұрын

He’s a very good player but not the world class player people claimed he was pre tournament. Despite the fact that Ireland probably were the best all round team in 2023 they didn’t really have that much star quality, and were never going to win the World Cup.

@ciaranbrk 6 ай бұрын

He is world class in the loose and in the scrum Barnes couldn’t wait to have a go at him. That Irish team definitely were capable of winning the World Cup and I will go a step further and say if they played the boks in the final they would have beaten South Africa. That QF came down to a held up maul and a missed penalty. Porter is world class and is only going to get better especially with the talent chasing his position in Leinster.

@TheSecretsquirrel222 6 ай бұрын

@@ciaranbrkthere is zero chance your boys had two more games in their legs. Zero. Teams have to rotate players in these tournaments or you're toast..

@Shandyboy8612 6 ай бұрын

@@ciaranbrkhe’s a class player in the loose but was targeted by NZ in the scrum as he’s not the best there. You were never going to win the World Cup with that squad no where near enough depth. You were very fortunate with injuries as well, didn’t pick up one for a starting player pre tournament or during the tournament.

@jackboland2644 6 ай бұрын

@@Shandyboy8612 Hey mate, with all respect would disagree on the depth point. I think the only places Ireland lacked depth would be at 10, and possibly back 3. Could’ve fielded two international standard packs. I think only places we would’ve been really goosed is if sexton or Hugo Keenan were injured. Had replacements ready to go everywhere else

@Shandyboy8612 6 ай бұрын

For sure two international standard packs maybe even 3 but not sure there were many world class players in the squad as a whole.

@Fighting_Irish184 3 ай бұрын

Truthfully, once Ireland was knocked out, I stopped watching the RWC. I stopped looking at social media, especially with all the southern hemisphere gloaters. The win over France makes Ireland 19 wins out of 20 and helped put things in perspective.

@2621270 6 ай бұрын

Before even thinking of the Lions tour worry about the steamrolling his facing when coming up against the world #1 and 4 times world champs!!

@freetimefoster 6 ай бұрын

The team they beat during this world cup?

@Powertoyah32 6 ай бұрын

Don’t think he has lost to South Africa yet

@ColinGrealy 6 ай бұрын

The team they beat 3 in a row?

@TaydoS 6 ай бұрын

The question from Jim about ref decisions was actually poor. Almost sucking up to Porter and trying to suggest that Ireland lost because of the ref...🤡

@aliceomalley6215 6 ай бұрын

He wasn’t trying to suggest that but it’s clear that porter did not do it the two times after he was called out for it, yet was penalised . You really think he’s that stupid? This is a World Cup he did not try it again.

@TaydoS 6 ай бұрын

@@aliceomalley6215 It's clear that Ireland had a poor lineout and poor scrum. Never gonna win tight knockout games if you don't have a solid setpiece. Take the ref out of it.

@mollyoko 6 ай бұрын

actually if u look at the scrums and lineouts that Ireland lost you can clearly see a pattern of cheating but he opposition, whether its closing the gap early, adding an extra man to the lineout and not being pinged or hinging on porter to wheel the scrum and not resetting and reffing from the other side to call it correctly. Ireland were very hard done by on these calls. You can clearly see they have the best scrum in the game if u watch the SA game back.@@TaydoS

@TaydoS 6 ай бұрын

@@mollyoko You couldn't be more wrong even if you tried. Ireland and Porter in particular is notorious for not scrummaging straight. He finally got found out in the QF. And in terms of the lineout, their calls were easy to work out and just saying that all their opponents illegally closed the gaps is a cop out and will result in Ireland not winning a WC in the near future if they continue to look for excuses rather than fix their weaknesses.

@user-xj5ks9yj8n 6 ай бұрын

Ireland believed their own hype. The All Blacks and the Boks didn't do that. And they ended up in the final. 'nuff said.

@simontaylor2525 6 ай бұрын

Thank christ they didn't win.

@stephendoherty981 6 ай бұрын

Welsh?

@marioadams8931 6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@christinaforde4101 6 ай бұрын

@@stephendoherty981Exactly.

@Nieljoyceniel 6 ай бұрын

@@christinaforde4101some of the most bitter people going. It’s between them and kiwis who hate Ireland the most

@dazza4345 6 ай бұрын

I would have liked to see Wales win if Ireland couldn't 🇮🇪

@waltbarratt200 6 ай бұрын

Of all teams to be complaining Ireland have had 3 years of things going their way look how many games against top teams at key points there's a red or contentious yellow. You had a great team entertaining all rugby fans, just lost a key game that’s all.

@WalesTheTrueBritons 6 ай бұрын

Only one robbed team in the tournament and that was once again Wales. Any other team and ant any other time gets a red card for that hit on Tompkins. But because it’s Wales and fans have this perverse theory that World rugby loves Wales when all evidence suggests opposite, the refs could never give something so blatant.