Blood Feuds and Gun Runners: Papua New Guinea's Tribal Battles

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17 жыл бұрын

Tribal Fights (2007): How the tribal conflict in Papua New Guinea has spawned a burgeoning arms trade in which politicians may be complicit
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Steve Marshall reports on the changing face of tribal warfare in the Highlands of Papua New Guinea.
Highland tribes have traditionally used violence to solve disputes - over everything from land control to wives and livestock.
Now, the disputes continue, but the weaponry has changed.
These days many illegal guns have made their way into the hands of tribal fighters.
From bows and arrows to illegal semi-automatic weapons -- the fallout is devastating.
"When he was killed I was left with three kids to look after and it's hard for me", a widow in the Western Highlands tells Marshall.
Tribal fighters confirmed that the drugs for guns trade between PNG and the top end of Australia is also alive and well.
"Some of our businessman who are out there in Australia they buy the guns and send it up to us here", said tribal fighter Moses Kauga.
At a time when PNG voters are going to the polls for the 2007 national elections, Steve Marshall also reveals claims that PNG politicians themselves might be involved in the trade.
ABC Australia - Ref. 3568
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@jingwuman
@jingwuman 16 жыл бұрын
I remember watching that black and white footage in anthropology class. Huge battle. Interesting stuff, thanks!
@Andreazor
@Andreazor 15 жыл бұрын
War never changes, nor the reasons behind them. We ain't better. Atleast these guys are honest about it and admit they just want revenge.
@JWWhiteTX
@JWWhiteTX 14 жыл бұрын
I worked in PNG for a year. Tribal war is a way of life for these folks, and the government just lets them get it out of their systems. A lot of these people haven't made it all the way out of the trees yet. I know that is real un-PC to put it that way, but the best I can come up with. The further back in the Highlands you go, the worse it gets. People outside of the place don't realize how far behind the power curve a lot of these people are It's a shame, it's a beautiful country
@tokome
@tokome 13 жыл бұрын
i love the highlands.. and PS: they only fight when they have REALLY SERIOUS issues. besides that i love my culture; i love my highlands and I love my country
@xredb
@xredb 14 жыл бұрын
may i ask a question why do ppl in PNG kill each other like this? its very sad to me.....i hope one day all the ppl in PNG will all come together peacefully and live in happiness Fijians lived like this in the olden days....but we put aside our differences and thats why its a peaceful nation today i hope all can do the same
@TheHulihornbill
@TheHulihornbill 10 жыл бұрын
Tribal fighting in new Guinea Highlands is active when there is lack of Government presence and law and order authorities has less power to solve the problems. Vast majority of highlands leaders are so corrupted and they are not putting heads together to lead people in peace process and restoring government services. Therefore, local natives resort to tribal law as to protect their interest. PNG Government and NG highlands leaders has role to deliver Government services and actively enforce law and order to all entire Highlands region..
@leanright6870
@leanright6870 17 жыл бұрын
I'm a yank - grew up in the highlands of Ukarumpa, Papua New Guinea; don't have specific information re: this particular matter, but I know things are much worse than when I was there. I still love the country. I don't think we can understand the rational or culture from the outside, just as they don't understand ours. Some of the nicest people I've ever known are the nationals of PNG and I'd love to get back there with my kids and wife.
@thvtsydneylyf3th077
@thvtsydneylyf3th077 Жыл бұрын
u been back since?
@fludblud
@fludblud 11 жыл бұрын
People need to remember that this is tribal warfare, not industrialised warfare. Here they pick a place and time to fight and agree upon the rules if the battle is won or lost. Its basically their equivalent to a football game, except the injuries are far more severe. The problem with PNG right now is that warriors are basically 'cheating' by buying M16s to give them an unfair advantage, thus the death toll from these small conflicts is soaring far beyond what it would be with bows and arrows.
@GB3770
@GB3770 11 жыл бұрын
You speak an unpopular truth - but truth none the less - well done.
@aotoby1
@aotoby1 13 жыл бұрын
This tribal fights only happen in the Highlands areas, but the coastal areas are well civilized and live in modern lifestyle, dont comment negetive thoughts about the whole of Papua New Guinea if you dont have any idea wat u talking about, i live in PNG on the coastal area where there's alot of tourist and they regard PNG as a wonderful place. PEACE OWT TO ALL.
@justinhasuma3643
@justinhasuma3643 Жыл бұрын
Very useful document.
@hyropath
@hyropath 14 жыл бұрын
Wise words. Thank you for knowing.
@miriam.uwakerua8344
@miriam.uwakerua8344 4 жыл бұрын
Oh Emmanuel my brother.I like your English.And good translate.
@kennylondon123
@kennylondon123 13 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how these people could fight and fight over decades ( if I'm correct) Here we are in the 21st century yet I feel that these of our brothers still couldn't find it in their hearts to forgive and work together as one whole community!! THIS IS VERY SAD !! I blame their tradition, culture and ways of living, all these have really currupted them!! I.M.O I feel that western culture needs to intervene and deliberate them !!
@TedH71
@TedH71 Жыл бұрын
That country has over 800 languages and deep valleys/mountains which isolates people and that's what causes them to fight each other because of the tribal distrust of each other.
@jozsefkacsa
@jozsefkacsa 11 жыл бұрын
Freeze it at 5:43 !! Aaaaahhhhhhhh That is sooooo sweet Daddy taking his yrs old boy to Battle with him on "Fight Day".Now that's how a Father should spend quality time with his boy!!!
@maiholiaw4927
@maiholiaw4927 2 жыл бұрын
In almost every tribal conflict everywhere in the world, drugs is always the main financier of illegal guns. Being a tribal myself who came from a region in India that had witness insurgencies and inter-tribal conflicts which had stopped only about 20 years ago, I can see and feel how destructive this is all. For 75 years from 1947-48 till about 2000-2003. The NE region had witness such internecine warfare. Armed tribal groups are fighting with everybody and everybody was fighting with India. Thousands of innocent lives were lost accompanied by social and economic destruction that was perpetrated by illegal trade on drugs and guns. No, the fightings were not caused because of lack of education or because of religion; North East Indian states literacy rate is higher than most Indian states, yet fighting occur because of centuries old tribal feuds or because of economics where the control of resources and power over others override religious and education lines. Ethnic and racial flames were ignited, where divisions were made between the "sons of the soil" and the "refugees" Age old land disputes were revived and established boundary lines were ignored. Fights occured on tribal and ethnic lines even though rather than on religious beliefs; Christians of one tribe or community against Christians of another tribe or community Hindus of one community vs Hindus of another community , Animists of one tribe vs Animist of another tribe. Thankfully today there is not much of such things, except very sparse or sporadic incidents at times. And I do hope that good sense will prevail on the people of PNG and will learn to coexists in peace.
@Tavoous
@Tavoous 15 жыл бұрын
I lived in PNG during 1 year (June 2007 to June 2008). Still visiting PNG every month. Very interesting place despite its less favorable reputation and to certain extent its violent traditions and culture. My colleagues and I never faced any major incident, though.
@MariusThePaladin
@MariusThePaladin 11 жыл бұрын
Although it sounds fun to have a traditional annual war orsomething liek that, this is fucked up. They should've turned it in to traditional cultural fighting sport competition or something like that.
@rwr3134
@rwr3134 16 жыл бұрын
You make it sound like ALL of them there don't know God coz most of them there are soo passionate about their relationship and love for God - its great sharing that with them:) peace.
@danmeadowsmusic
@danmeadowsmusic 13 жыл бұрын
@Vanessa901 How the hell did you afford a flight when you have not graduated high school?
@Johnson3182
@Johnson3182 13 жыл бұрын
This video is no exception, people (media) always focus on the negative impression to paint a bad image which is not a reality in the daily lives of the many Papua New Guineans. While I do agree tribal fights do exist in some localities, this is always one of event...If there was any place I would prefer to live, thats Papua New Guinea, where true love is evident among the innocent majority pacific islanders!
@islandwarrior16
@islandwarrior16 15 жыл бұрын
Im Torres Strait Islander and i know the illeagal trade very well...Ganja comes down from the highlands, then taken by boat down to Torres Strait. in Torres Strait, it's exchanged for weapons. It's nothing new. What is new is the increasing amount of people smuggling going on across the border. Papuans who live along this southern coastline have long had traditional links with the people of Torres Strait in Australia, and those across the border in Papua.
@zippybomb
@zippybomb 12 жыл бұрын
Yes, guns are an extremely destructive force compared to spears and do much more damage. Do think wars would kill this many people today if people used hunting spears and arrows?
@jcBurton2094
@jcBurton2094 2 жыл бұрын
Guns and bush knives
@nassauguy48
@nassauguy48 11 жыл бұрын
Why are they showing scenes from the Los Angeles riots here?
@mramirez5194
@mramirez5194 10 жыл бұрын
Scary!!!...
@tariqziyad8062
@tariqziyad8062 17 жыл бұрын
the government dosen't want too stop it
@KVIKFALD
@KVIKFALD 12 жыл бұрын
who are the tribe at the beginning of the video?
@Andreazor
@Andreazor 15 жыл бұрын
The sound is very out of sync.
@gailzawacki
@gailzawacki 11 жыл бұрын
no that's wrong. archeological studies have shown that a higher percentage of young men die in tribal warfare than in industrialized warfare.
@twikiriwhi
@twikiriwhi 15 жыл бұрын
The savage at 10 38 is wearing a trendy Kiwi shirt!
@goodshipkaraboudjan
@goodshipkaraboudjan 14 жыл бұрын
No such thing as "illegal" rifles in PNG. If you want a SLR, M16, G3 you just go ask a cop or someone who knows one in Mt Hagen. It is stupidly easy.
@jeffbrak
@jeffbrak 13 жыл бұрын
The audio and video is out of sync.
@fmishaan1
@fmishaan1 12 жыл бұрын
i will go there with everything from glass 2 mobile phones and declare myself their lord XD
@marlonaugwi1111
@marlonaugwi1111 3 жыл бұрын
All the best lord dude 😂
@sethaus75
@sethaus75 12 жыл бұрын
It's amazing that these people are the most genetically distant from black Africans. They are genetically closer to a Japanese or a blonde Swede than they are to a black Nigerian. As such, race is a social construct.
@gatheringleaves
@gatheringleaves 15 жыл бұрын
i don't get it what do you mean?
@Rasmusorum
@Rasmusorum 13 жыл бұрын
@htia075 What are you talking about? This video was shot in 2007.
@sethaus75
@sethaus75 12 жыл бұрын
@hatloverxxx From wiki: The largest genetic distance between any two continents is between Africa and Oceania at 0.2470. Based on physical appearance this may be counterintuitive, since Indigenous Australians and New Guineans resemble Africans with dark skin and sometimes frizzy hair. I think you bought that degree you claim you have.
@jarrodsewell7658
@jarrodsewell7658 10 жыл бұрын
I LOVE PNG
@timothykamberan7601
@timothykamberan7601 8 жыл бұрын
Countries who were born some hundred years ago still facing problems of all kinds, we are new born country, no matter what the foreign media and foreign people say don't give a dam on them. This our country yumi go PNG.
@gatheringleaves
@gatheringleaves 15 жыл бұрын
Cool, I heard Papua New Guinea is very wild, even today, is that true?
@takarabox6971
@takarabox6971 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah wild and free!!
@bigmac7077
@bigmac7077 3 жыл бұрын
It’s like watching a bunch of kids with Adhd play Nerf
@poo_8857
@poo_8857 3 жыл бұрын
Badass
@Salvus967
@Salvus967 15 жыл бұрын
yeah whats the story there? i am just curious but i have no idea why people in papua new guinea look like people from africa. when did they migrate over there, and why to that eastern part of the island?
@digitalgear
@digitalgear 14 жыл бұрын
The M16 there probably cheaper than iphone4 (without contract). :P
@caloymadregallus1476
@caloymadregallus1476 11 жыл бұрын
galing ako doon noong 2010 dilikado taga doon lalo na kong gabi ka lomabas sabayan nila.
@SEECH7cornishgrimemovement
@SEECH7cornishgrimemovement 14 жыл бұрын
i would have smoked all that weed
@reddog5031
@reddog5031 2 жыл бұрын
Probably a gut stone not a cruisy head stone.
@deceiver123m
@deceiver123m 13 жыл бұрын
@owlandtree yeah well... im too scared to face things i dont yet understand...
@islandwarrior16
@islandwarrior16 14 жыл бұрын
wtf!? little boys in the battlefields with the men
@cipslim
@cipslim 13 жыл бұрын
. I think it is in their best interest to carry war trough some type of aggressive sport like rugby.
@joshmc6
@joshmc6 16 жыл бұрын
i have no clue what you mean...
@aldomovielovers
@aldomovielovers 13 жыл бұрын
@momok35 yes and we proud :D orang2 ini moyang kami
@DJ53151
@DJ53151 12 жыл бұрын
im from PNG :D but im not living in PNG :(
@takarabox6971
@takarabox6971 4 жыл бұрын
Bows are kept in Museums nower days in PNG 😜😜
@zippybomb
@zippybomb 12 жыл бұрын
They're not wasting time with old weapons, they still have to track and hunt the animals just as long they just have a better shot at it when they find it.
@1000gohead
@1000gohead 12 жыл бұрын
@TiminPhoenix When you say "before", you're talking about before western contact? Before contact you and I both can't give a proximate status on their lifespan What does having a computer, electricity, a full belly, and not suffering from Malaria have to do with Western culture? And you ask why should others have that? Why does America send millions of dollars to Israel, but don't lend a helping hand to it's own American citizens, Haiti, or Brazil?
@fukraadmi
@fukraadmi 15 жыл бұрын
paradise lost
@NovaGypsy
@NovaGypsy 11 жыл бұрын
.. at the moment.. they only say that because they're not familiar with the technology that's involved in making guns.. if they had their own I'm sure they would be more than happy.
@MariusThePaladin
@MariusThePaladin 11 жыл бұрын
And can words really settled anything ? If I took something from you that you need for living and refused to give you back that thing, no matter what, what will you do ? Call a police ? And what does the police going to do if I refused to give in ? They're going to use force, and they going to fight me. In the end, it's violence. Moreover, what if it's not me taking things from you, but my country taking things from your contry ? What police can settle this ? Humans are animal,my friend.
@mangincmaki92
@mangincmaki92 12 жыл бұрын
@SamoaMoSamoa537 Real talk bro!!!!! Thats what ive always wished we'd do
@momok35
@momok35 13 жыл бұрын
@aldomovielovers jika yang kamu katakan malaysia juga bagia dari mereka...sudah tentu indonesia juga bagian dari malaysia dan sebaliknya...betul?jika betul sosio budaya juga dari rumpun sama..betul?jadi mengapa masih ada pertikaian?
@johnram2870
@johnram2870 12 жыл бұрын
I don't know where you got your information from. What is now Papua New Guinea was armed because of the Japanese invasion, not Christion missionaries. Even most of the (small number) of Australian defense forces there were did not have guns when the Japanese first invaded. Widespread armament happened because of the arms left behind as a result of thousands of dead soldiers from the invasion, not Christian missionaries. Also Indonesia is a major supplier of PNG arms.
@eazydee415
@eazydee415 14 жыл бұрын
yea right
@Shodanski1980
@Shodanski1980 11 жыл бұрын
I love these people mentality !!! Bring this to the west
@AG-xc9yh
@AG-xc9yh Жыл бұрын
Okay good idea lol 😂
@kettlebabii
@kettlebabii 13 жыл бұрын
I love my country :) Even though its abit crazy hahah!
@samuelbousfield4342
@samuelbousfield4342 4 жыл бұрын
Just a bit lmao
@meeker128
@meeker128 11 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it isn't mostly for show, and that killing each other is not the true goal, because then the deaths would have to be avenged. I think they fight and then give women and pigs to the ones they have wronged. I think actually killing your enemy would be a mistake in this culture and they take precautions to avoid warranting true revenge. I'm basing this only on having seen Ongka's Big Moka, and this video... it's just a theory.
@ResolvedGrayness
@ResolvedGrayness 11 жыл бұрын
he also says straight after that he buys them for the young men
@deceiver123m
@deceiver123m 13 жыл бұрын
Seems like a ripe market for arms and munitions. Think PROFIT :)
@jyothiprakashhk
@jyothiprakashhk 14 жыл бұрын
whole world is running behind, fight for 3 things... WEALTH, WOMEN, LAND....if people stop this we will have very peaceful and beautiful world....
@crypter27
@crypter27 11 жыл бұрын
It depends on the bow!
@takarabox6971
@takarabox6971 4 жыл бұрын
Bows are kept in Museums nower days in PNG
@crypter27
@crypter27 4 жыл бұрын
@@takarabox6971 cool
@hmartinspliff
@hmartinspliff 11 жыл бұрын
The police don't fight anymore. I asked one of them if they wanted to fight me but I ended up getting tasered and convulsing on the floor, so I don't bother now.
@heyheybp
@heyheybp 11 жыл бұрын
putting aside the fact that they're fighting for a very stupid reason, they've been fighting for so many years. It has never occurred to anyone of them to fight in a more organized way?
@ashraf26100
@ashraf26100 13 жыл бұрын
@diablojorgen any time u can come to penang n call me.
@Ithil-00
@Ithil-00 11 жыл бұрын
The second part of your post contradicts the first part. If the contractual terms of their conflicts were purely based on morality, then no one would be trying to cheat. BTW, Industrialized warfare also has rules.
@kaptenlemper
@kaptenlemper 14 жыл бұрын
Infinity Ward to release Pre-Modern Warfare, based on PNG tribal warfare.
@dominicmark1337
@dominicmark1337 Жыл бұрын
Bad Days in Nebilyer llg..
@calebbai1733
@calebbai1733 10 жыл бұрын
Hey i am from png and now the trible war is still going
@teddybruscie
@teddybruscie 10 жыл бұрын
Is it really all over a woman. I find it really hard to believe all of this over a woman. Ok it might have started that way but the continuation of it has to be more than just the origins of it and revenge. The drug trade has to be the main reason now.
@sekaijin7299
@sekaijin7299 9 жыл бұрын
teddybruscie I wouldn't be so sure. Family means absolutely everything to Papua New Guineans. They will bleed for their family and friends no matter the reason. This causes these stupidly long conflicts. They don't forgive, and they don't forget, unfortunately.
@teddybruscie
@teddybruscie 9 жыл бұрын
SekaiJin They don't need to do either. Just stop fighting.
@giovannimannelli2158
@giovannimannelli2158 5 жыл бұрын
and now?
@Htcmobikes
@Htcmobikes 3 ай бұрын
Any updates brother
@XCILE625
@XCILE625 11 жыл бұрын
No tribal society can survive with high authority and the government.
@Tubebacca
@Tubebacca 15 жыл бұрын
why the Indonesian? This is PNG not west-papua a land that is occupied by Indonesia.
@macchexx1007
@macchexx1007 8 жыл бұрын
Wagawagawaga
@johnram2870
@johnram2870 12 жыл бұрын
Widespread guns didn't come until after the Japanese invasion and the Australian response. If you think Imperial Japanese occupiers protected the indigineous cultures, and were afraid of guns and civilization, then you are obviuosly deluded from samurai movies or something. And you also ignoring the fact that the majority of guns on the street come from the PNG government itself and a significant amount come from Indonesia show that you have an ax to grind against Europeans and Christianity.
@MrAndrum11
@MrAndrum11 12 жыл бұрын
@1000gohead how can you hate all Europeans? Some nations never ever enter wars or nothing like that
@knowthetruth1492
@knowthetruth1492 13 жыл бұрын
So who here was able to choose where they were born? Anyone? I rest my case.
@fmishaan1
@fmishaan1 12 жыл бұрын
sure i am, but i will be in their nayional museum as soon as they r in their 80s era XD
@goodshipkaraboudjan
@goodshipkaraboudjan 14 жыл бұрын
Where? Missionarys are pulling out more then anything and their work is a drop in the ocean. Most highlanders don't bother deluding themselves either - frankly over there whether it be expat or local, no one pays attention to the missionarys.
@Tubebacca
@Tubebacca 15 жыл бұрын
It`s more the other way around. gangs are like copying tribal wars.
@ScopedOUT2
@ScopedOUT2 15 жыл бұрын
Fix the God damned sound, its way out of sync.
@79pensacola
@79pensacola 11 жыл бұрын
Let's face it, these people aren't exactly considered that bright.
@MariusThePaladin
@MariusThePaladin 11 жыл бұрын
What you said is really offensive. Before then guns were introduced they used to live, fight, and survive like animals. They really did live with the nature and depends their life on nature. We are the wrong one here. Their way of living was the correct way. What we call civilization or Human's evolution is in fact, the path to doom. And we are also the one who forced this to all tribal people. Read Ismael: The Wandering Spirit.
@bloodynachos
@bloodynachos 13 жыл бұрын
@Juggernautishere its not the religion, its the people who interpret it the wrong way
@zippybomb
@zippybomb 12 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a facepalm icon.
@mangincmaki92
@mangincmaki92 12 жыл бұрын
@kaptenlemper What?? Prove it??
@SEECH7cornishgrimemovement
@SEECH7cornishgrimemovement 14 жыл бұрын
and you should fire your video editor hes terrible at lip syncing
@ResolvedGrayness
@ResolvedGrayness 11 жыл бұрын
they look like a bunch of kids playing in the grass
@Scoobyxxxsnax
@Scoobyxxxsnax 16 жыл бұрын
i mean that its hopeless. I mean theres no effort to stop this crazy wars and frm an outside view, they put all of us in one category even though its just what happens in the highlands many may think the whole of png is violent
@zippybomb
@zippybomb 12 жыл бұрын
When have guns helped them at all? There are almost no large or medium game animals and shooting a tree kangaroo with an AK-47 is going to take of most of its meat.
@17dumitru
@17dumitru 13 жыл бұрын
scary guys
@chayoart
@chayoart 13 жыл бұрын
they have m-16 cool !
@slmrcs
@slmrcs 14 жыл бұрын
how about leagalizing pot, and then paying this people cash for it, give them a decent home and television and they'll stop killing each other.
@unoe_mas
@unoe_mas 8 жыл бұрын
but that means its coming! oooo
@zealotifier
@zealotifier 11 жыл бұрын
guy with the red cap, Lebron James.. Like if you see it :)
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