Experimental Character Showcase - Riot

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Blood on the Clocktower

Blood on the Clocktower

2 жыл бұрын

Over the coming months, we'll be showcasing some of the experimental characters, live on stream, with an eye to helping prospective Storytellers see them in action and learn how best to run them.
This week it's Riot, a literal speed demon!
Storytellers for this game: Ben Burns and Edd Gabriel.
Join us for the streams over at:
/ thepandemoniuminstitute
Find out more at bloodontheclocktower.com/
Intro visuals created by Jon from Luke & Dad Productions / @vfx_jon
Intro music - Private Reflection Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
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Other music by Karl Casey ‪@WhiteBatAudio‬

Пікірлер: 49
@CrowMercury
@CrowMercury 2 жыл бұрын
You can hear Jams going full "oh" when she realized she just nuked the evil team.
@darbyl3872
@darbyl3872 Жыл бұрын
So, basically, if Riot is on the script, the entire good team needs to identify all of their teammates by nom time on day three. I can't wait to play this IRL.
@Humorless_Wokescold
@Humorless_Wokescold 2 жыл бұрын
That second game lmao Poor Jams. Went full deer in the headlights.
@erranepearce
@erranepearce 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ben and the rest of the crew for such entertaining content all the time. Came here long ago from NRB and just love getting more and more BOTC content from this group of people. Ben, I have learned so much from your informative breakdowns of your decisions and story telling as well as your player perspective stuff. Can't thank you enough!
@kyleb8117
@kyleb8117 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw Riot on the Kickstarter page originally, I knew it was going to be an exciting Demon. Actually seeing it in practice makes me even more excited for it. Pure panicked decisions. I love that it has a deadline like Leviathan, too.
@Scented_Shadow
@Scented_Shadow Жыл бұрын
If you sort of cross your eyes and blur your vision, the riot symbol above the imp symbol on the script looks like a little flower together :)
@etourdie
@etourdie 2 жыл бұрын
So riot reads "After day 3, evil wins." Does that mean if you were pit hag and made a riot on day 4, you'd just win?
@altrivotzck6565
@altrivotzck6565 Жыл бұрын
No, because the Pit-hag and Riot are jinxed with this exact situation in mind. You can look up any jinxes on the djinn page of the wiki, or in the discord (and this specific jinx was also mentioned in the video), but the jinx is "If the Pit-hag creates Riot, all *evil* *players* become riot. *if* *the* *Pit-Hag* *creates* *Riot* *after* *day* *3* , *the* *game* *continues* *for* *one* *more* *day* "
@Violet_Faye
@Violet_Faye 2 жыл бұрын
Watching through these archives and I'm happily surprised to see Jan here! I was(/am but less so these days) a long time Super Mafia All-Stars viewer, so it's nice to see a more familiar face in the game.
@skruffytiger2002
@skruffytiger2002 Жыл бұрын
They seemed so close to getting the bad guys, I think Gambler's casual 'I would like to see chris and ekin dead" unduly influenced the choices instead of the players that had been at least partially caught out in bad claims/behavior, nadine and patters, oh well
@Ellie-rx3jt
@Ellie-rx3jt Жыл бұрын
Yeah Gambling seemed to interpret "yes" to one or more of four people being evil to mean that they should kill all four. Which is not an ideal strategy when you're potentially (and in this case actually) killing one third of the good team. If he'd limited his artist question to two or three people the potential ratio of good team kills would have been a lot better, while still potentially giving them five/six of the nine good team (since they already knew three) if he'd got a no.
@tammyboy2084
@tammyboy2084 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, quick question, just because of some wording; Edd said “all evil characters” would turn. Does that include a goon, a cult leader, a character who has said the mezepheles word, etc?
@EtoileLion
@EtoileLion 2 жыл бұрын
The wording on the ability is that "All Minions are Riot". The Goon is an Outsider, whether evil or good, so as-written i wouldnt think they would turn....
@tammyboy2084
@tammyboy2084 2 жыл бұрын
@@EtoileLion yeah, I only asked because of what Edd said when they were talking about the pit hag creating a riot. It felt a little vague.
@comp.lex4
@comp.lex4 2 жыл бұрын
From my understanding, "Evil Characters" generally means minions and demons as characters, regardless of their alignment. Otherwise, the Cerenovus could choose any character, since it would always be a good player receiving it
@EtoileLion
@EtoileLion 2 жыл бұрын
@@comp.lex4 A Traveller would then be a question mark, would it not? I think its better stated as Minions, or Minions and Demons. My real question is what happens if for some gods-bewoe reason a Pit Hag turns a townsfolk into a Riot. As-written, it would turn the Minions into Riot, but the original Demon would still be lurking as their original self...
@maizen1335
@maizen1335 2 жыл бұрын
@@EtoileLion The townsfolk, all the minions, and the demon would become riot. Evil players become riot because of the pit hag jinx, not the set up text. It's the same reason a pit hag making a baron doesn't add extra outsiders, which is why the jinx is needed in the first place
@doity
@doity 2 жыл бұрын
Lol that ending
@meathir4921
@meathir4921 2 жыл бұрын
I’m very confused why they killed Navean at the end of the first game when his Juggler was backed by Savant
@lordhawkeye
@lordhawkeye 2 жыл бұрын
likely panic under pressure
@etourdie
@etourdie 2 жыл бұрын
Idea I randomly had for an outsider The Mad Genius: Every night you see the grimoire. You are mad* about a role. If you are not mad, the opposing team wins * They have to pretend they are that role as if it were their own, not that they must constantly insist that's their role at every possible opportunity. If they'd normally be cagey about being the role like saint or poppy grower, it's fine if they're cagey, if they want to do a three for three instead of hard claiming that's fine, but saying like "I'm the empath, I got a one, I know for sure you're telling the truth about being x" wouldn't be okay unless they can actually justify why they'd know that person is telling the truth about their role. Also, if they talked to a lot of people and then accused someone of being evil because of information that they were not told but could have come from a role, I think I'd be fine with it, but that's definitely storyteller's choice I said opposing team just so if a mezepheles converts them, they can't instantly win the next day
@diamondsky3787
@diamondsky3787 Жыл бұрын
most BOTC characters that have an instant lose condition use the phrase: "your team loses" instead of "the opposing team wins"
@etourdie
@etourdie Жыл бұрын
@@diamondsky3787 Makes sense, it's less clunky. Otherwise, thoughts?
@diamondsky3787
@diamondsky3787 Жыл бұрын
@@etourdie it is cool but it might need a few tweaks(seems op), I am no expert in balance and Clocktower as I have never had the opportunity to play/ST so you should ask someone else
@etourdie
@etourdie Жыл бұрын
@@diamondsky3787 Alright, thanks
@Katz0801
@Katz0801 Жыл бұрын
Ive played and STed a lot of games. Unfortunately a good player seeing the grim and therefore immediately knowing who the demon is is too powerful. They could just nominate the demon and probably convince the town even when mad as something else (most experienced players would also work out which role they are when they are mad about being various characters). Plus as soon as this outsider is dead they do not have to be mad anymore so can speak freely about what they know.
@richwisneski8275
@richwisneski8275 Ай бұрын
How did the Pit Hag switch people to Riot if he was Snakecharmed?
@BloodontheClocktower
@BloodontheClocktower Ай бұрын
I'm confused about what you're asking here. The Snake Charmer doesn't effect the Pit Hag in any way, it only effects the Demon. - Ben
@Saborabi
@Saborabi 5 ай бұрын
This seems a good script to use IMP and play a slightly different TB
@metaderivative8305
@metaderivative8305 Жыл бұрын
Probably only a useful strategy in odd edge cases but, in a Riot game, does a player who self-nominates get a second nomination immediately upon dying?
@metaderivative8305
@metaderivative8305 Жыл бұрын
Never mind! Ben asked Edd and this was a confirmed "yes" at 57:50
@williamtoccijr9579
@williamtoccijr9579 2 жыл бұрын
I just need to know how to add jinxes to a script…
@BloodontheClocktower
@BloodontheClocktower 2 жыл бұрын
Hey William, if two roles are jinxed then the script tool flags those jinxes automatically. There will be a small icon under one of the jinxed roles, showing the role it's jinxed with, and the full jinx will be listed on the night sheet. Hovering the mouse over the jinxed role in the browser will show the jinx in a tool tip. - Evin
@pretsal4955
@pretsal4955 Жыл бұрын
Chris spent so much of the first game throwing you'd think there was a Politician on the script
@TheCiddan
@TheCiddan 2 жыл бұрын
How come a good player (Eevee) died in the first night, in the first game? Do correct juggles kill?
@GrimlanderMG
@GrimlanderMG 2 жыл бұрын
It's part of the Pit Hag ability. When a demon is created by the Pit Hag, kills that night are arbitrary. The storytellers choose them, based on the situation. If that wasn't there, the Pit Hag could turn themselves or another minion into a demon and there would be two kills straight away. Or 4 with certain demons, which is game-ending.
@OwlphaAce
@OwlphaAce 3 ай бұрын
No idea on the chances of this comment being seen but this video is missing from the storyteller perspective playlist
@BloodontheClocktower
@BloodontheClocktower 3 ай бұрын
Ah, thankyou for spotting this and letting me know. I've now added it to the playlist. - Ben
@Jsuelieta
@Jsuelieta 2 жыл бұрын
Riot reads that they win 'after day 3'. If Riot counts from day one, couldn't a Pit Hag force an evil win night 3 by creating a Riot since, at that moment it is "After Day 3"? Seems like a moderately coordinated evil team can work to stall for three days then just push the "I win" button with a Pit Hag night 3. Edit: I'm counting the first night as "night zero" for the purposes of numbering the nights since it's more like a 'set up' night and the storytellers are 'dead'.
@eggyolk6735
@eggyolk6735 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, Riot and Pit Hag are Jinxed "If the Pit-Hag creates Riot, all evil players become Riot. If the Pit-Hag creates Riot after day 3, the game continues for one more day."
@LeumGaming
@LeumGaming 2 жыл бұрын
pit hag + vigor!!!! oh noes
@grahamthegoat9433
@grahamthegoat9433 2 жыл бұрын
can i have a suggestion for a outsider. "town lookout"+1 outsider, power: see witch other outsiders are in play outsiders win if they outnumber townsfolk when the demon is killed. e.g: town lookout learns lunatic at the start of the game, the lunatic dies and the demon is dead but alive outsiders do not outnumber townsfolk so townsfolk win. example 2; town lookout learns drunk and goon, at the end of the game the 3 outsiders are alive when the demon dies the outsiders outnumber townsfolk so outsider's win
@MILOEBA
@MILOEBA Жыл бұрын
but outsiders and townsfolk are one in the same? theyre both good, theyre not trying to battle against each other. townsfolk are goodies with helpful abilities, and outsiders are goodies with detremental/problematic abilities. if outsiders win, so do townsfolk
@josephjoestar3631
@josephjoestar3631 9 ай бұрын
On top of that, the demon would have to play very poorly and die on day 1 or 2 to have a situation where it matters that the townsfolk or outsiders outnumber each other. In most games and situations, you make it to a final 3. One demon, own townsfolk, one minion. One demon, one outsider, one townsfolk. This is standard play. This character needs to be redesigned
@alfonsstekebrugge8049
@alfonsstekebrugge8049 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't particularly enjoy these two games. Although generally fun to watch, the Riot seemingly does not really reward good play quite as much as other demon configurations. I mean in the second game the good players were nerfed quite heavily and we saw what happened, basically any shenanigans are immediately punished which leads to very constricted gameplay. The first game was marred by the storyteller not paying attention and not hearing that the move that probably would have won the game was actually played. If it had gone down as it should have it would again have been a game where it's just punishing shenanigans for the win. I feel having Riot on the script as an option is not a bad thing per se, but it has a similar world-bending role as Vortox and Vortox seems much more interesting and leaves many more roles as viable.
@masterjbt
@masterjbt Жыл бұрын
What move was that?
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