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Psychedelics Are Now Legal in Australia-With a Catch

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Bloomberg Originals

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Australia is a nation known for its conservative attitude towards drugs. So the approval of psychedelics for use in psychotherapy in 2023 came as a shock. Maybe more shocking was who got it done - an opera singer and her former investment banker husband, who kicked up no shortage of controversy along the way.
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@GNARGNARHEAD
@GNARGNARHEAD Ай бұрын
how to have a voice in Australia, be obscenely rich..
@thomask837
@thomask837 Ай бұрын
I was thinking just that
@yt.personal.identification
@yt.personal.identification Ай бұрын
That is a universal trait.
@billylion3073
@billylion3073 Ай бұрын
while that is usually true the people in this video are not even close to 'obscenely rich' and were essentially lobbying against status quo the pharma industry has created if anything they were fighting the obscenely rich. How to have a voice in Australia, be obscenely rich. How to have a voice in Australia pt 2, cost your opposition more than the problem you are trying to fix or just be generally annoying How to have a voice in Australia pt 3, don't get assassinated.
@georginawhitby1320
@georginawhitby1320 Ай бұрын
And to be an AstroTurf operative for a cause that will move towards providing a tool for the government to harm both dissidents and the vulnerable ill in the planned extension of mental health framed incarnation.
@zaccy21
@zaccy21 Ай бұрын
​@@billylion3073 Peter hunt is extremely rich, he was a very successful investment banker and lawyer who sold his company to America for over 500M+
@dantheman2907
@dantheman2907 Ай бұрын
"sometimes MDMA makes people worse and we don't know why" which is exactly the same as traditional antidepressants. Not everything works for everyone.
@mareegray2597
@mareegray2597 Ай бұрын
Exactly, antipsychotics are the same, doctors don't know who will respond to certain antipsychotics or if they will make the person worse, it's Russian roulette until you find the right one
@gipsyiloveu
@gipsyiloveu Ай бұрын
Need therapy at the same time of taking MDMA
@Loyannelima
@Loyannelima 17 күн бұрын
@@gipsyiloveustill doesn't work for every person using it with therapy. Same happens with Ketamine and psilocybins. No treatment to this date have 100% success, nor prescribed antidepressants nor alternative treatments done with supervision of professionals
@JewTube001
@JewTube001 7 күн бұрын
@@mareegray2597 exactly. some people take seroquel and it makes them restless, which is the opposite effect most people get
@chrishowson3243
@chrishowson3243 Ай бұрын
That Stephen Bright is so short sighted. The reason people die from MDMA is because contamination or dehydration. Both things that would be solved if the compound was decriminalized and regulated, advocating to keep it criminalized only ensures more and more people will die trying to experience this treatment.
@user-zq7bd9ud6m
@user-zq7bd9ud6m Ай бұрын
has no clue
@WoolfJosh
@WoolfJosh Ай бұрын
Seconded, as well as his points about regulations on medicines. Like pharma companies haven't done the same in rushing products to market.
@DanielAusMV-op9mi
@DanielAusMV-op9mi Ай бұрын
Yes of course you are right, this human rights violation will get fixed. Let's make it happen, we all want the same, happiness and no suffering, psychedelics help, so substances will win anyway ❤❤❤
@wicksfx
@wicksfx Ай бұрын
Yep, also that the war on drugs has made it harder to access the key ingredients to make the product, so instead an inferior and more dangerous product is often produced which aims elicits a similar effect.
@jaytbo5676
@jaytbo5676 Ай бұрын
Most ppl who are hurt by MDMA actually overdose on water by consuming too much, im not sure if that translates to deaths also though. As far as contamination I don't think it's fair to even call that dying from MDMA. Realty is all traditional psychdelics are safer than alcohol and cigerettes though so these arguments about harm are so ridiculous.
@shanessinging
@shanessinging Ай бұрын
There is a serious problem with this media outlook and info being put out by this video and also misleading title. MDMA keeps being repeated in tandem with the research and use of Psilocybin which is incorrect. theyre 2 completely different drugs and also used for 2 completely different mental health related things so shouldnt they be reported as such, individually? and not combined into 1 video? People are gunna get confused. For example: mentioning people dying off of the use of MDMA in festivals and then talking about psilocybin research at 4:00 this is improper reporting and shows lack of knowledge; in context with this comment: there has not been a single known reported death from psilocybin mushroom use. There is no clear differentiation between the 2 by the journalist which is my issue.
@susanlisson7066
@susanlisson7066 Ай бұрын
Yep, you hit the nail on the head there. Lazy & confusing reporting as seems so prevalent nowadays.
@malcolmrickarby2313
@malcolmrickarby2313 Ай бұрын
@@susanlisson7066did someone say Bloomberg?😮😂😅
@fatherburning358
@fatherburning358 Ай бұрын
@@shanessinging absolutely agree. It's farcical.
@looseunit-vm3jb
@looseunit-vm3jb Ай бұрын
So wot your saying is we just take the poison that big farmer gives us. Man had been taking this stuff for years, must have damaged me Couse I can only come up with ideas to solve problems no one else can
@Good-ph9
@Good-ph9 Ай бұрын
Yes, they don’t have their information peer reviewed.
@ptorx1036
@ptorx1036 Ай бұрын
i been illegally microdoseing for my mental health. saved my life! better than anti depressants etc. depression, brain fog, anxiety, my bipolar.. its gonna save alot of people.
@dannii_L
@dannii_L Ай бұрын
I miss my microdoses so much. I did 1/10 LSD every 3 days for about 9 months and it was amazing for stabilising my mood and invigorated a sense of wonder and energy to get things done and try new things. Still trying to get my hands on some more without getting busted for importing what might be seen as "distribution amounts" of around 20 units. When the government bans vapes but not cigarettes and allows alcohol while banning dope and LSD - two of the least conflict inducing recreational drugs I can think of, you really get the impression that they don't actually care about our health as much as they claim that's the reason for the ban in the first place.
@looseunit-vm3jb
@looseunit-vm3jb Ай бұрын
Brain reset I call it
@natextreme_
@natextreme_ Ай бұрын
How
@looseunit-vm3jb
@looseunit-vm3jb Ай бұрын
@@natextreme_ wot U mean how . Grow in ya back yard
@gnomeski6561
@gnomeski6561 Ай бұрын
allegedly not illegally
@wetcat833
@wetcat833 Ай бұрын
The problem in Australia is that we have the most spineless politicians on the planet. "We don't have enough information " they say about a medicine, humans have been using since we came down from the trees. Pathetic.
@PiNKMuDSimGaming
@PiNKMuDSimGaming Ай бұрын
"We don't have enough information " that didn't stop them bringing in & forcing the "vaccine" on everyone, now look at all the people having blood clots etc. I know 2 people personally.
@dankadesign7462
@dankadesign7462 Ай бұрын
Agree on the fact its western modern country...should know better.I think they using same tactic (as in other countries ) confusing ppl with contradicting info and some of them is pure lies
@chocolatelightning
@chocolatelightning Ай бұрын
I bet most of the government lads are users anyway
@gunterlangesschwein.kieran1784
@gunterlangesschwein.kieran1784 26 күн бұрын
And then say that the COVID "vaccine" has enough evidence to bombard the country with.
@christofthedead
@christofthedead 25 күн бұрын
Medication being old doesn't mean we have a lot of information on it. Bad argument.
@salient244
@salient244 Ай бұрын
Let adults have autonomy over their bodies and decisions. Educate and put guardrails to mitigate abuse. Why is this so controversial? Gov is like some overbearing parent. In this case the science has been clear for a long time
@lethal2453
@lethal2453 Ай бұрын
The Nanny State.
@jackalexander5099
@jackalexander5099 Ай бұрын
They want to control the poisons they want you to put in your system because of the kick backs they get from big pharma, corruption and over governing at its best... the fact you can gamble as must as you like while, drinking and smoking, all legal just reinforces this.
@plomaturbo
@plomaturbo 27 күн бұрын
Because profit and control
@AlexShiro
@AlexShiro Ай бұрын
I love how they ignore thousands of years of tradition, methods and manner of predominantly safe use in some cultures in a self-righteous panic about slow-to-catch-on institutionalised Western medicine. Alcohol is legal and look at the harm it does.
@christofthedead
@christofthedead 25 күн бұрын
We're also ignoring thousands of years worth of capital punishment & human sacrifices. Logical fallacies are fallacious.
@AlexShiro
@AlexShiro 23 күн бұрын
@@christofthedead hbu try making a relevant point, trying to run a faulty analogy is a great logical fallacy on your part.
@littlehills739
@littlehills739 11 күн бұрын
methods and manner of predominantly safe use in some cultures blood letting , kid to smoke for asthma ? drinking of mercury ? get your point tho
@lotfibouhedjeur
@lotfibouhedjeur Ай бұрын
I think psychedelics are gonna save the world. This world we've created is driving us all crazy.
@kimsherlock8969
@kimsherlock8969 Ай бұрын
Or save us from trying to save everything else and learn to celebrate our short journey 😊
@LOLxUnique
@LOLxUnique Ай бұрын
Read brave new world
@lotfibouhedjeur
@lotfibouhedjeur Ай бұрын
@LOLxUnique I've been meaning to, but I don't think my mental health can take it.
@englishsteve1465
@englishsteve1465 Ай бұрын
Not just the psychedelic types that are immensely interesting, many types of fungi are being found (and re found) to have huge medical benefits for all kinds of serious diseases. Have a look at the work of Paul Stamets, it's absolutely mind blowing.
@georgeweissmann9095
@georgeweissmann9095 Ай бұрын
​@@LOLxUnique Soma is more like cannabis or opiates. A numbing agent. Psychedelics are transformative and therapeutic.
@kentroglobalinvestmentllc8921
@kentroglobalinvestmentllc8921 Ай бұрын
People are like “MUSHROOMS ARE DRUGS NOT MEDICINE”, the proceed to take cephalosporin antibiotics, among hundreds of other medications made from mushrooms.
@DanielAusMV-op9mi
@DanielAusMV-op9mi Ай бұрын
I just classify it as substances ❤
@agentsmidt3209
@agentsmidt3209 Ай бұрын
Isn't medicine "drugs"?
@llamamusicchannel7688
@llamamusicchannel7688 Ай бұрын
​@@agentsmidt3209a lot of people seem to have this cognitive dissonance to be able to understand "drugs" and "medicine" are the exact same thing. A doctor giving you oxys doesn't suddenly mean you're not taking strong opioids
@tomwebb2831
@tomwebb2831 Ай бұрын
Stop it with your logic.
@Sigmund-Fraud
@Sigmund-Fraud Ай бұрын
drugs are drugs not drugs
@NonBinary_Star
@NonBinary_Star Ай бұрын
Shrooms changed my life for the better. I was just recreationally trying to "trip" in the forest with some friends. I had no idea what would happen. It was/is the best experience of my life, full stop! I did em when i was 18 or 19 yrs old and till this day the wisdom, compassion, love, insight, presence, and patience I came to know then still guides me in my thoughts and actions with myself and with others. From what i understand it wasn't as grand and sweeping for my friends. But i think there's something to be said about the fact that forests/woods nature has always been my happy place. And unlike my friends, I came to the experience with no forced expectations just a curious and open mind.
@samsin34
@samsin34 Ай бұрын
Have you ever , taken 5grams dried, in the dark and quiet? Preferably in your own home where it’s safe .. if not .. I recommend.. very different experience
@Tsar22
@Tsar22 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@jessanna4138
@jessanna4138 Ай бұрын
​@@samsin34 as Terrence Mackenna once said, "That's pedal to the metal" And I agree, friggen amazing experience 🍄
@samsin34
@samsin34 Ай бұрын
@@jessanna4138 😁that’s it . Personally , I’ve done 5 grams dried, about 7 times , and plan on doing it again soon, just working myself up to it , since it is quite the journey , scary, weird , beautiful , strange and so many other things I cant describe in words , mind you the species I pick out here in Australia , are Psilcoybe Subeaerginosa and they are extremely potent
@N4CR
@N4CR Ай бұрын
@@samsin34 ego ending amounts are great once you are experienced and prepared for it. When you can't see anything or really move except for in your mind, you need to know what you are doing.
@Titan-Shores
@Titan-Shores Ай бұрын
MDMA has been known for some time that it can cure treatment resistant PTSD in one single session. The mental health benefits of psilocybin mushrooms are also very well documented.. it's high time the rest of the world caught up to Australia, Portugal, and the work of MAPS to name but a few of the pioneers in the field.
@destructorzz7197
@destructorzz7197 Ай бұрын
"single session" is a bit of an exaggeration but yes MDMA is beneficial for treatment of PTSD.
@raksh9
@raksh9 Ай бұрын
"High time" - I see what you did there
@jaytbo5676
@jaytbo5676 Ай бұрын
Canada has literally had legal psychedelic assisted therapy with mdma, psilocybin, ketamine and etc. for years :'( Why does no one appreciate that we were the actual first lol
@jaytbo5676
@jaytbo5676 Ай бұрын
@@destructorzz7197 Yeah it's not a single session but it is true there is a visible significant improvement even after one session
@brownhornetseventhre
@brownhornetseventhre Ай бұрын
​@@jaytbo5676 because you speak French haha
@dafreedomfita
@dafreedomfita 20 күн бұрын
I live in Australia and this whole thing is just a joke. It’s absolutely impossible to get those things unless you’re well connected or a millionaire.
@digger3594
@digger3594 13 күн бұрын
What things,Mushrooms?
@dafreedomfita
@dafreedomfita 13 күн бұрын
@@digger3594 the things the government supposedly legalised
@JewTube001
@JewTube001 7 күн бұрын
@@digger3594 the therapy. i have depression+ptsd but I can't get on these programs. they're very, very exclusive.
@hansolowe19
@hansolowe19 Ай бұрын
The guy around 4 minutes is being foolish, misinformed or disingenuous. Of course, when people take it in unsupervised situations, not knowing what they're doing and not being mindful, these things can be dangerous or even lethal.. People should drink plenty when they use xtc/mdma, no other drugs, and there should be an experienced (and ideally sober) friend present to keep an eye out. Many people know this, but not everyone. Including apparently that guy. We don't know how it works? We don't know how alcohol and caffeine work either, not _really_ . We should be mindful and careful about this, the medicine is powerful. But that guy is talking out of his donkey.
@sirtra
@sirtra Ай бұрын
His argument regarding unknown risks no longer holds any water. I'll take my chances with a random mushroom from the forest sooner than a booster.
@anatta467
@anatta467 Ай бұрын
most people think its "the thing" and thats ok. But once you realize that its just another experience and you haven't actually evovled at all, well. Now you are somewhere.
@CP-pt1ot
@CP-pt1ot Ай бұрын
You must be forced to take an untested, totally radical, new gene therapy for a cold virus - which is safe and effective no matter how many people die or are maimed. But we must ban drugs that are proven to CURE depression and suicidality for the small percentage of people who CHOOSE to take them because a few idiot teens overdosed on recreational cocktails that contained similar compounds.
@djtall3090
@djtall3090 Ай бұрын
we don't know Tylenol Paracetamol works either.
@jimmydgaf8291
@jimmydgaf8291 Ай бұрын
11 grand ? My mate daveo will fix you up for 30 bux
@lexidiusBS
@lexidiusBS Ай бұрын
Psychedelics aren't illegal because a loving government is concerned you'll jump out a window. Psychedelics are illegal because they open you up to the possibility that everything you know is wrong. - Terence McKenna
@ther3dk1n9games6
@ther3dk1n9games6 Ай бұрын
I took 12g of dried shrooms because of munchies once. It did for me what 5 years of therapy with 3 threapists couldnt.
@damienlazar6103
@damienlazar6103 Ай бұрын
12??!! 😳🤯
@kat_emu
@kat_emu 14 күн бұрын
How tf you take 12g
@matlenaghan7488
@matlenaghan7488 Ай бұрын
This is a lie. Being able to get a prescription from your doctor for something isn't the same as being legal. If I start growing and selling mushrooms I will go to jail. If I'm driving down the street and get pulled over and I'm found with a kilo of LSD I will go to jail. If I have a mental deficiency and I go to the doctor, do a myriad of tests and attend appointments for months I might be able to have session with a "professional" drug administrator. I dunno what legal means to you, but that's not legal.
@bundydryandlime
@bundydryandlime Ай бұрын
You get it
@jessanna4138
@jessanna4138 Ай бұрын
And it would cost an arm and and leg to get that session too
@PartyhatRS
@PartyhatRS Ай бұрын
That just means you need it with a prescription. Doesn't mean it's illegal. It's not just black and white. It's "legal, with a prescription" or "illegal, without a prescription". You have to describe exactly what you mean.
@JonathanWickTrades
@JonathanWickTrades Ай бұрын
@@PartyhatRS it's not even a simple prescription. you gotta do it under the supervision of the psychiatrist... do you know how much sessions cost? and you won't be approved to take psilocybin on the first session with a psychiatrist... how about people do their own research, take their own care, grow their own medicine and minister it how they believe...
@bobbellendovich6825
@bobbellendovich6825 Ай бұрын
Yep. This is a SCAM. Those two elites are pushing so only their synthetic branded and patented product is legal to use. Yes, they are LIARS. CHARLATAN.
@guyno187
@guyno187 Ай бұрын
MDMA therapy saved my life! I originally tried mushrooms and didn’t like them but had three mdma sessions which transformed me and ceased my suicidal thoughts. I do believe psychedelics are truly a medicine given to us by nature.
@MargaritaMagdalena
@MargaritaMagdalena Ай бұрын
I'm from the Netherlands and it's a shame that Australia is ahead of us in this respect! Shrooms are amazing.
@socks2441
@socks2441 Ай бұрын
most pharmaceutical medicines have worse risks and side effects than natural drugs/ medicines. so im all for this. its about time every country did this. adults have the right to make adult decisions.
@Hurricayne92
@Hurricayne92 14 күн бұрын
what would you class as a 'natural' drug/medication?
@Charvak-Atheist
@Charvak-Atheist Ай бұрын
LSD and DMT must be legalized
@MeredithRothman-db6wf
@MeredithRothman-db6wf Ай бұрын
I remember days my anxiety flew over the fence, weighed my options and there i found this dude who got the best strains of psilocybin and other psychs.
@MeredithRothman-db6wf
@MeredithRothman-db6wf Ай бұрын
(They're on Telegrams & Instagrams?..
@MeredithRothman-db6wf
@MeredithRothman-db6wf Ай бұрын
@PHILLSMYCO2, is the handle?.
@smashlee6181
@smashlee6181 Ай бұрын
all drugs! *except antibiotics*
@georginawhitby1320
@georginawhitby1320 Ай бұрын
Do you understand the profound difference between the implications and risks of them being decriminalised Vs legalized? Why specifically do you want them legalised instead of only decriminalised for personal use? Do you understand the profound risk involved in giving psychiatrists the ability to prescribe these substances to involuntarily commited patients? Do you know the horrendous history of this already in Victoria? Are you aware of the plans to massively expand mental health incarnation, and involuntarily commitment in Victoria? Do you really think psychiatrists and by extension the state should have these available as a weapon ?
@zrazghost
@zrazghost Ай бұрын
that feeling of connection can lead to temporary or in the worst case permanent psychosis, detachment from reality. which can lead people to what most perceive as schizophrenia. there is always a risk. while psychedelics have changed my life for the better, they have also caused me personally to make some poor decisions because I just "understood" things.
@frankzap6231
@frankzap6231 Ай бұрын
Australian here.. I haven't watched the whole video and not sure if it's included... But the cost of the psilocybin therapy to a patient here would be around $10,000 aud per session I believe. Hopefully this is just a preliminary cost whilst trials are being undertaken etc..
@TheRubberStudiosASMR
@TheRubberStudiosASMR Ай бұрын
Jesus Christ! Capitalism at every step of the way
@DanielAusMV-op9mi
@DanielAusMV-op9mi Ай бұрын
There are in Netherlands retreats for max 1900€, cheaper would be possible to ❤
@frankzap6231
@frankzap6231 Ай бұрын
@DanielAusMV-op9mi Yeh, at this stage its cheaper to fly to Peru, stay at a luxury ayahuasca retreat centre for 14 days, then have enough money leftover to have a nice vacation on the way home.
@andyturbo
@andyturbo Ай бұрын
This is incorrect. It is not costing me a cent and begin my treatment in October!
@jeddrance6863
@jeddrance6863 Ай бұрын
It doesn’t cost me a cent either.when the shrooms start popping out of the ground therapy begins
@fatherburning358
@fatherburning358 Ай бұрын
Talk about manipulation through narrative. Do your research people. The history is long and well documented, both for and against psychedelic medicine. Lots and lots of research. This documentary is a snippet of the info available.
@ervinacadenamayonga
@ervinacadenamayonga Ай бұрын
I remember days my anxiety flew over the fence, weighed my options and there i found this dude who got the best strains of psilocybin and other psychs…
@ervinacadenamayonga
@ervinacadenamayonga Ай бұрын
(They're on Telegrams & Instagrams?..
@fatherburning358
@fatherburning358 Ай бұрын
@@ervinacadenamayonga lucky you 😊
@M4DBMX
@M4DBMX Ай бұрын
A human doesn't understand just how much they don't understand until they have their first psychedelic experience.
@Jack-r2v9b
@Jack-r2v9b Ай бұрын
Yes my life has been part 1 before d.m.t and part 2 after d.m.t
@valhallatrading2304
@valhallatrading2304 Ай бұрын
The blue eyes from the spice in the movie Dune were inspired by the blue from psilocybin mushrooms.
@Rach_-wq5me
@Rach_-wq5me Ай бұрын
I have ptsd and the period I took them when I was at art college recreationally freed me of depression and anxiety and for once in my life I was happy and sociable, so definitely truth in this, I’m currently a UK medical cannabis patient because all chemical pharmaceutical drugs from the nhs have failed me
@diabl2master
@diabl2master Ай бұрын
Baseless accusation that they influenced the delegate.
@jordancook192
@jordancook192 Ай бұрын
Its a landmark ruling. Im glad someone is finally coming in to show this. It was quietly approved earlier than 2023. Its not actually prescribable or "useable" its a "we wont dismiss this research". But there is still a war on drugs, mental health and violence in australia. We have much bigger problems, its not that we care. Its that it slipped through our cracks. I desperately need this treatment. But our heads are buried in the sand and im considered a "potential threat" and we're arguing about the potential risks while I end up dying homeless on the street because i can't afford rent, to work while disabled, or to have a dog because dogs cant pay rent. But its all I have left... Thanks to predjudice and consistant denial of facts from of our australian government.
@danrowlands3705
@danrowlands3705 Ай бұрын
Australian govt could greatly improve my mental health and my finances if they would just legalize recreational Marijuana and allow us to grow our own... but they care not for their Citizens only their profits...
@mmmmmmmmmmm10
@mmmmmmmmmmm10 Ай бұрын
They have legalised medical. Just google medical cannabis, there's heaps of places. 1 phone call and 1-2 days later you get a delivery. Prices are similar to black market. Edit: doesn't solve the grow your own issues to save money though.
@georginawhitby1320
@georginawhitby1320 Ай бұрын
You draw an interesting contrast between their approach to Marijuana and potent psychedelics. The difference is that LSD / Psilocybin etc are useful weapons in psychologically breaking dissidents.
@Tsar22
@Tsar22 Ай бұрын
​@@georginawhitby1320😂
@Tsar22
@Tsar22 Ай бұрын
Word
@soarer282
@soarer282 Ай бұрын
You can grow in Canberra
@ommanipadmehung3014
@ommanipadmehung3014 Ай бұрын
This is such a terrible hit pace that is completely uninformed. The USA FDA led the way in this and Australia following the scientific research simply beat the US for something that they are scheduling to do very soon also. It is highly controlled in Australia and only psychiatrists who have specifically been trained in using psychedelic therapy which are only a handful in the entire country have been legalized to give this therapy.
@ervinacadenamayonga
@ervinacadenamayonga Ай бұрын
(They're on Telegrams & Instagrams?....
@ervinacadenamayonga
@ervinacadenamayonga Ай бұрын
@PHILLSMYCO2, is the handle?.
@feelincrispy7053
@feelincrispy7053 Ай бұрын
Legal or not it didn’t stop me from foraging today. I found at least 500g whilst looking in the rain. Was beautiful
@ervinacadenamayonga
@ervinacadenamayonga Ай бұрын
(They're on Telegrams & Instagrams?....
@ervinacadenamayonga
@ervinacadenamayonga Ай бұрын
@PHILLSMYCO2, is the handle?.
@Graterstuuf
@Graterstuuf Ай бұрын
People are still serving time for cultivation of mushrooms for medicinal research. It’s not even decriminalised. Don’t believe the hype.
@kashiichan
@kashiichan 14 күн бұрын
I'm not even interested in taking these substances, but I the fact that they're conflating the change of restriction level with "oh it's just available as a medical treatment now" is absolutely infuriating.
@batosato
@batosato Ай бұрын
Why is naturally occuring plants undergoing so much scrutiny while synthetic drugs which can cause mutation are completely fine to intake?
@higate_col
@higate_col Ай бұрын
The source of the chemicals has no relation to its impact on humans. Just ask yourself which you'd choose to eat between a spoon of synthetic MSG or an all natural cane toad.
@waltuh6984
@waltuh6984 Ай бұрын
because it is unknown how the psychedelics work
@englishsteve1465
@englishsteve1465 Ай бұрын
Because it's harder to patent and make money from "natural" plants and fungi unless you are isolating one particular part of the whole.
@PostImperfect
@PostImperfect Ай бұрын
​@@waltuh6984except that it's isn't unknown, there is quite a strong body of literature out there
@c6q3a24
@c6q3a24 Ай бұрын
@@higate_col There is an enormous difference between banning the sale of novel synthetic chemicals - and banning access to naturally occurring products. Especially when those natural products have been in use for thousands of years, and have well established history of safety and cultural importance.
@enlancement
@enlancement Ай бұрын
You left out the part about the war veterans contributing to the push to reschedule them as a treatment for PTSD as so many veterans sadly suffer from it...
@mikehall3074
@mikehall3074 Ай бұрын
They won't allow anything that could bring new understanding of ourselves and the place we occupy in time let alone World Peace.😞😓🙃
@earthgoddesses
@earthgoddesses Ай бұрын
Yeah I’m in Australia and they are charging $20,000.00 for this kind of treatment so it’s not accessible to the people who really need it
@Moest682
@Moest682 Ай бұрын
It’s only helpful for the rich people 😤😩
@dannii_L
@dannii_L Ай бұрын
where did you hear? Because one of my clients told me his neighbour is prescribed and he definitely can't afford that - ofc I can't verify his neighbour is though.
@furryblue6377
@furryblue6377 Ай бұрын
​@@dannii_LIt's part of a therapy 'package', so it's not $20k per dose, but with the additional mandatory specialists & therapists, the out of pocket expenses per patient for 6 to 9 months of MDMA assisted therapy ranges from $24k to $35k.
@taniadejong5065
@taniadejong5065 Ай бұрын
Mind Medicine Australia has organised a partnership with a Canadian medicine supplier and the cost of the medicines is minimal. The cost of the therapists makes up the bulk of the cost and may be covered by health insurance and other support for those in need. MMA also has a Patient Support Fund and 100% of donations into that help support those who cannot afford the upfront costs.
@earthgoddesses
@earthgoddesses Ай бұрын
@@dannii_L I heard it on the news and online a site of an practice that offers it
@musclecactus5183
@musclecactus5183 Ай бұрын
If something is heavily regulated and obscenely expensive then it is not 'legal'. It might be an adjustment of pre-existing legislation but it's still legislation. It's still the government deciding the degree to which an individual may have access to, a relationship with and experience of the natural world. It is still a group of people deciding under what circumstances an individual may have this experience, and surprise, surprise! - it's within a clinical setting, with someone who doesn't really care about them, with large sums of money involved! Well, what better way to achieve an understanding of one's own integral part in the tapestry of the universe that facilitates the healing of psychological trauma than within the confines of a heavily regulated capitalist infrastructure? And so the tyranny continues.
@wotever99ninynine
@wotever99ninynine Ай бұрын
what worries me is the potential that this was put through, so they could demonstrate it failing. even if that means being untruthful. its hard not to be skeptical of modern medicine and FDA/ TGA. they would rather us pay out the nose for their pharmaceutical medicines laden with risk that to use anything safe/ cheap/ readily available and natural.
@djtall3090
@djtall3090 Ай бұрын
The best set and setting for MDMA is a dance floor, as close as possible to the speakers and your favorite dj. 😊
@mick7474
@mick7474 Ай бұрын
people don't get worst....people get better...well done and thank you to Mind Medicine...
@syrinxcors1975
@syrinxcors1975 Ай бұрын
Yet as an Aussie I'm not allowed to vape anymore. FFS.
@VokeVideo
@VokeVideo 20 күн бұрын
Psychadelic therapy cured me of cPTSD, addiction, depression and obsession. Completely. It's not a magic bullet and it was incredibly confronting and I had loads of bad karma to confront. It was a terrifying but beautiful experience and has made me a MUCH better human being with MUCH better relationships.
@YtubeUserr
@YtubeUserr Ай бұрын
1:00 Australia is conservative?? Wha? Take a look at African and Asian regimes (Taliban, North Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabi and many many more)
@michaelprice3040
@michaelprice3040 Ай бұрын
Ah everyone else saying mushrooms have benefits are junkies but as soon as a banker says there’s benefits the government listened…. Pathetic.
@joshuabradshaw5757
@joshuabradshaw5757 Ай бұрын
Stephen Bright clearly isn't that bright.
@Pneumanon
@Pneumanon Ай бұрын
Bright enough to make a bit of money off his credentials and contribute to a scare campaign it seems. Which still isn’t that bright.
@danielsanichiban
@danielsanichiban Ай бұрын
They had to reschedule psychedelics to get anywhere. It’s been impossible to do any tests or trials for decades because of the legality and general perception of psychedelics until now. Let’s just see how it goes
@JohnnyVman
@JohnnyVman Ай бұрын
I use to trip on mushies nearly every weekend back in the 70's and 80's , unlike getting smashed on alcohol i remember every trip and what we did
@davidbentley5554
@davidbentley5554 Ай бұрын
People get worse off meds proscribed by their GP. So, it's not a valid argument
@solensovida
@solensovida Ай бұрын
What does she mean "Australia leading the way" in psychedelics? 'Murica was onto it ages ago... Netflix's "How to change your mind" covered that thoroughly.
@33mavboy
@33mavboy 11 күн бұрын
Because Australia's leaders and influence to power is to be a big meathead with more ego than anyone, too much ego, even tho there is nothing to be proud of about australia, only negative things to remember
@crazyham
@crazyham Ай бұрын
Well, if it's TGA approved I would stay well away from it 🤣
@an0nycat
@an0nycat Ай бұрын
Meanwhile: Psychedelics Are Now Legal in Australia 😅😅
@truevegas
@truevegas Ай бұрын
Knowing what we know now about vaccines and lockdowns, the fact this woman was against lockdowns and vaccines from the start actually speaks volumes for her wisdom and foresight
@djtall3090
@djtall3090 Ай бұрын
Yep!
@YtubeUserr
@YtubeUserr Ай бұрын
Bruh, vaccines led to mass immunity and that's what led to the fading away of Covid. Otherwise, it would have killed a few 100s of millions more before it faded away. I'm not sure if the lockdowns helped, but the vaccines saved a few hundred million.
@kimberleykelly-street1285
@kimberleykelly-street1285 Ай бұрын
Yes critical thinker
@tdarons
@tdarons Ай бұрын
Agreed ❤
@SubstreamNewsNetwork
@SubstreamNewsNetwork 27 күн бұрын
The US ran similar trials and decided not to proceed. AUS does the same trials and decides to move ahead with it. How does this happen? Would love more insight into why different medical bodies are coming to different conclusions.
@aoc8548
@aoc8548 Ай бұрын
I prefer to listen to Paul Stamets, he has a wealth of knowledge regarding this very subject, with a tremendous compassion for people and life on this planet.
@sivansharma5027
@sivansharma5027 Ай бұрын
What's the catch? Title says there's a catch but you didnt point one out...
@wyldrosie
@wyldrosie 19 күн бұрын
At least 1 mental health service in QLD is currently trialling psychedelic assisted therapies as treatment for mental health conditions including Ketamine and psylocybin as treatments for intractable depression and complex grief. Certainly way better than giving people ECT
@adamsmith1813
@adamsmith1813 Ай бұрын
Lol the land down under about to get even funkier. Should visit some time.
@thewokestoner8528
@thewokestoner8528 Ай бұрын
Great PR piece for mind medicine Australia
@darkhorseman8263
@darkhorseman8263 6 күн бұрын
The Police owe trillions in retroactive compensation.
@sirtom3011
@sirtom3011 23 күн бұрын
This means NOTHING….Look, people are going to have their drugs if they want them. Legal or not. Do you not buy your drugs even they are illegal?
@SuperBozz
@SuperBozz 22 күн бұрын
I illegally legalise it in my mind
@PhillipBell
@PhillipBell Ай бұрын
Legal psychedelics in some cities, even in the US, like Denver. But Australia is the first Country (not city) to do it. Governments want money, and there is tax revenue in legalizing drugs. Doctors will become profiteers, prescribing to anyone that pays them - it happens in the US now.
@ervinacadenamayonga
@ervinacadenamayonga Ай бұрын
I remember days my anxiety flew over the fence, weighed my options and there i found this dude who got the best strains of psilocybin and other psychs.
@ervinacadenamayonga
@ervinacadenamayonga Ай бұрын
(They're on Telegrams & Instagrams?..
@ervinacadenamayonga
@ervinacadenamayonga Ай бұрын
@PHILLSMYCO2, is the handle?.
@wzactive
@wzactive Ай бұрын
I don't wanna take magic mushrooms let alone lsd in someone's office 💀
@sonic50ish
@sonic50ish Ай бұрын
LSD hasn't been approved
@DK_Son
@DK_Son Ай бұрын
These politicians and whoever else are finally catching up to what many people have known for decades. Psych mushroom/MDMA are powerful healers. Very low risk in comparison to alcohol and other substances. You don't even need to go on them as a regular drug. You just eat a bunch of mushrooms, bond with the universe, have a cry, and come out with a wider acceptance for your situation, what you've been through, etc.
@MeredithRothman-db6wf
@MeredithRothman-db6wf Ай бұрын
I remember days my anxiety flew over the fence, weighed my options and there i found this dude who got the best strains of psilocybin and other psychs….
@MeredithRothman-db6wf
@MeredithRothman-db6wf Ай бұрын
(They're on Telegrams & Instagrams?..
@MeredithRothman-db6wf
@MeredithRothman-db6wf Ай бұрын
@PHILLSMYCO2, is the handle?.
@S4R1N
@S4R1N Ай бұрын
"Australia’s first psychedelic therapy clinic opened its doors this week, charging patients $24,000 for nine months of treatment." -_- Think I'll just pick some up at a doof instead hey.
@billpreston2162
@billpreston2162 27 күн бұрын
Do you know where any doofs are on in NSW this year?
@JewTube001
@JewTube001 7 күн бұрын
@@billpreston2162 we can organize one ourselves mate
@GoddaryuTUBE
@GoddaryuTUBE 23 күн бұрын
Ahahahaha oldmates wife is definitely a cooker
@parisdevine8553
@parisdevine8553 Ай бұрын
Japan had no lock downs or vaccine mandates and guess what no increase deaths at all ! We are misinformed in Australia all the time! I will definitely seek this treatment for my ptsd .
@elijones2321
@elijones2321 Ай бұрын
They didn’t need to, have you seen the Japanese public? They were wearing masks when they had a cold decades and decades before Covid was ever a thing. They didn’t have a mandate or lock down because their population actually listened and stayed home and everyone got the vaccine of their own accord. Like they have one of the highest rates of Covid vaccination in a country that historically was on the fence about vaccines. You absolutely have no idea what you’re talking about. Japanese culture is very very different from the West.
@kashiichan
@kashiichan 14 күн бұрын
Old comment but it's completely wrong, which should be noted
@mysticfakir2029
@mysticfakir2029 24 күн бұрын
From a legal standpoint Australia are followers, but from a medical standpoint, we don’t rely on other countries for our research. Medicine here is truly more progressive than politics
@churly9717
@churly9717 Ай бұрын
Australia a conservative country??
@_sunshine_rainbows
@_sunshine_rainbows 22 күн бұрын
People still being charged for cannabis in Australia 😂
@SuperBozz
@SuperBozz 22 күн бұрын
Charged? It's a sedative not an upper I've heard pple charging on shoots. But they are usually upbeat types anyway. Sometimes I think people just take drugs to hide their personality Oh I'm not a hippie derro it's the e
@shazabrahim5208
@shazabrahim5208 Ай бұрын
1:02 "...Australia is traditionally seen as quite a conservative country"....Oh my! Looks like the psychedelics are indeed taking effect!
@ImGodTheMaryBanger
@ImGodTheMaryBanger Ай бұрын
Hahaha exactly! Were closer to communism than conservatism these days
@duran9664
@duran9664 Ай бұрын
🚩FACT🚩 Most conservative, fanatic religious people r actually reside in the USA 🇺🇸 🤷‍♀️
@Timeparadox101
@Timeparadox101 Ай бұрын
Beautiful people who can make a massive change like albert hoffman and terrence mckenna.
@ervinacadenamayonga
@ervinacadenamayonga Ай бұрын
I remember days my anxiety flew over the fence, weighed my options and there i found this dude who got the best strains of psilocybin and other psychs….
@ervinacadenamayonga
@ervinacadenamayonga Ай бұрын
(They're on Telegrams & Instagrams?..
@ervinacadenamayonga
@ervinacadenamayonga Ай бұрын
@PHILLSMYCO2, is the handle?….
@MrJamesdryable
@MrJamesdryable Ай бұрын
Terence Mckenna's vision is FINALLY being realised. 🍄
@Hurricayne92
@Hurricayne92 14 күн бұрын
It really isn't that unusual for Australia to be a global leader
@fightback9187
@fightback9187 17 күн бұрын
This should be available to all without the red tape it is criminal to stop people from accessing medicines that are needed.
@minedarksanctuary453
@minedarksanctuary453 Ай бұрын
I Absolutely love my country!
@kylehagan9706
@kylehagan9706 Ай бұрын
Why legalize mushrooms and not LSD? It is better, safer, and lasts longer.
@andyturbo
@andyturbo Ай бұрын
LSD is included now and theres LSD trials recruiting in Australia as we speak.
@musicbluedolphin1
@musicbluedolphin1 26 күн бұрын
More safe and effective than some other products out there being labelled as such!
@monisacred
@monisacred Ай бұрын
I have been practising psychedelic therapy for years. One session is not enough. Without discipline and integration work it is futile. The pain that aggression of hyper masculine culture has created is not easily healed. Mother Nature is hurting and the whole society is constantly being retraumatised by ruling overlords. If ever psychedelics make us more awake and even more depressed, because we can see how broken the system is. It’s a never ending process of healing.
@grOwHIO937
@grOwHIO937 Ай бұрын
Technically the first countries to allow it were all of them,
@ervinacadenamayonga
@ervinacadenamayonga Ай бұрын
I remember days my anxiety flew over the fence, weighed my options and there i found this dude who got the best strains of psilocybin and other psychs…
@ervinacadenamayonga
@ervinacadenamayonga Ай бұрын
(They're on Telegrams & Instagrams?..
@ervinacadenamayonga
@ervinacadenamayonga Ай бұрын
@PHILLSMYCO2, is the handle?.
@ervinacadenamayonga
@ervinacadenamayonga Ай бұрын
@PHILLSMYCO2, is the handle?…
@Noddy2750
@Noddy2750 Ай бұрын
We are All love our drugs in Australia
@Leo-vk6qm
@Leo-vk6qm 21 күн бұрын
For those of us suffering from PTSD this is so over due, many of us have lived our whole life with debilitating mental health. Public health is not funded well enough for those of us with mental health issues.
@Zoonofski
@Zoonofski 27 күн бұрын
I got HPPD from a single dose of 1g of mushrooms. Been hallucinating faces for over 6 months with pretty intense anxiety. After doing some proper research i discovered this might be happening in up to 1 in 20 people. May have reconsidered if i'de known that (and believed it).
@lilianparle4822
@lilianparle4822 26 күн бұрын
Shrooms are a powerful psychedelic with a long history of recreational, medicinal, and spiritual use worldwide. Still, psychedelics can be unpredictable, and experts advise anyone interested in using them to start with a low dose and seek counseling from a medical professional.
@lilianparle4822
@lilianparle4822 26 күн бұрын
I will advice you get across to Charlesmyco he will guide you on how to use them for medical purposes.
@lilianparle4822
@lilianparle4822 26 күн бұрын
He's on instagram.
@SuperBozz
@SuperBozz 22 күн бұрын
​@lilianparle4822 what if I don't need this information right now.. does he have delaygram
@JewTube001
@JewTube001 7 күн бұрын
I don't think it's high as 1 in 20 unless you count minor and short lasting cases. But I do think it's bad for some people, particularly people with hereditary mental problems related to hallucinations. For example if you have schizophrenia this will probably make it worse. No drug is for everyone, as some type of person will often get a bad effect from it. Most western medications are like this too.
@ChasedbyChaos
@ChasedbyChaos 23 күн бұрын
Well hells angels will be on these drugs to drug others
@user-cq6kb1rh1u
@user-cq6kb1rh1u 29 күн бұрын
Some people become alcoholics, ban alcohol.
@SuperBozz
@SuperBozz 22 күн бұрын
That's not even psycho delic
@JewTube001
@JewTube001 7 күн бұрын
but they don't. there's no addiction for mushrooms and mdma. for alcohol there is and it's very additive
@brownhornetseventhre
@brownhornetseventhre Ай бұрын
People dont realise the power of these plants and the spirit world. Some powerful energies .
@TrueLunacy
@TrueLunacy Ай бұрын
Antidepressants & antipsychotics should be banned..
@Droidzi
@Droidzi 25 күн бұрын
The people of Australia (aside from the 1950s) have never really been conservative - those in power gave the impression, however, because it suited their end goal. The people, the individuals, on the other hand 💅
@Sanguinarius9999
@Sanguinarius9999 Ай бұрын
I tried to join a Monash study for psilocybin, wasnt accepted.
@johnflint7743
@johnflint7743 Ай бұрын
As if I need it to be legal!
@Healthliving1967
@Healthliving1967 Ай бұрын
How about we concentrate on legalising cannabis firstly then magic mushrooms.
@mentallychallengeddolphin9677
@mentallychallengeddolphin9677 Ай бұрын
4:24 YOU don't understand how it works bud, WE do 🤣
@moonboy5851
@moonboy5851 Ай бұрын
How do I get it??
@ervinacadenamayonga
@ervinacadenamayonga Ай бұрын
I remember days my anxiety flew over the fence, weighed my options and there i found this dude who got the best strains of psilocybin and other psychs…
@ervinacadenamayonga
@ervinacadenamayonga Ай бұрын
(They're on Telegrams & Instagrams?..
@ervinacadenamayonga
@ervinacadenamayonga Ай бұрын
@PHILLSMYCO2, is the handle?.
@janepate
@janepate 29 күн бұрын
I order mine from Charlesmyco effective and affordable.
@janepate
@janepate 29 күн бұрын
He's on instagram.
@whatrtheodds
@whatrtheodds Ай бұрын
I hope people use it wisely. It can really change lives🧘🏼‍♀️ Anyone saying this is a drug, must realise we already use drugs to treat people. Except some of these drugs get prescribed for decades. My mother has been on antianxiety medication for 20 plus years
@kaysianrain9203
@kaysianrain9203 Ай бұрын
Funny how alcohol and cigarettes are legal.
@lokesh303101
@lokesh303101 Ай бұрын
To Treat Brain 🧠 Disorders.
@juanmansego6267
@juanmansego6267 11 күн бұрын
That explains the break dancing.
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