How is the comment before 20 minutes if the video is uploaded just less than a minute ago?

​@@GoldenYXZBecause the video was unlisted before it was published.

No

Get that bag bro

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IIRC it was mentioned in a manual (I miss them so much 🥺) that running rustled the grass more and attracted nearby Pokémon’s curiosity/attention.

Right that's been a thing since running shoes were introduced 🤣

I swear there is a part of dialogue that says "the faster you go the more noise you make!" implying that you will have more encounters

I just found it myself thought everyone knew it

I just got harassed whenever I did run in grass so I stopped until I had repels

This is super interesting ngl

You should play Pokemon Reborn, they really pushed this idea of field effect and it's amazing !

I actually didn't know that thank you 😮❤

Man I just recently beat it, I can't believe I didn't get to test that

Actually cool, but I think it was mandatory for them to think that? They have to fullfill as many slots for that move as the number of different encounter points or else would crash (same reason as the ??? type Arceus), so eventually them or debuggers would notice?

Well if I were your friend back then I think I would of believed you (I know it is kind of corny)

@@djentity303You would have* :) (not would 'of', that doesn't make sense)

​@@Asidderslol dik.

Grammar Nazis are laaaame

Tag them😂

I'm unsure, but I think that the other Gym Leader NPC trades also have some dialogue if you have friendship on your traded Pokemon.

I mean they used to be, nowadays they’re soulless husks with hardly any reason to dig deeper than surface level gameplay

I feel like that's especially true for the Gen 2 remakes. HeartGold and SoulSilver are chock full of mechanically irrelevant details. I was repeatedly amazed at the myriad of different pieces of dialog you can have with your roaming Pokémon. The 493 animated sprites they had to create for that alone must have been so much work for something that doesn't amount to anything other than S-grade polish.

Fun fact, that extra dialogue is very similar to the rambling you get from the pokeclub guy in gen 1 that gives you a bike voucher, just replace steel types with Rapidash

@@V8chump The new games still have better framerates than Gen 4

He should have hacked in a team of lv100 legendaries to go faster.

​@@Lulink013he would've needed a save file for that

I wanna know what it meant by unlocked map locations

​@@not_an_humin3710could have used action replay, to be fair. although I get the feeling he just wanted to play the game again :P

I beat XD without evolving Eevee just to see if there was special dialogue. There was not. I got curious because a girl in the lab says something like "don't you raise any pokemon other than that eevee".

It's probably an error message the developers put in if they ran into a crazy edge case.

Same but I always questioned if it was just my brain making a false connection. It’s good to see actual numbers on it for once.

Oh. Is that for every game or just HGSS? Because if it's every game maybe the failed audino encounters were all my fault lol

I was doing this even before HGSS came out. I also thought it was common knowledge. I would think that an NPC or sign tells you the same thing in an older game as well.

No no. I started walking and all of a sudden my encounter rate suddenly dropped.

Some guy says it by tall grass near the beginning of HeartGold

I was thinking that. I thought it was common knowledge

The game he ""tested"" it in *_literally tells you._*

I also thought this was something everyone knew. Even without testing you have always been able to tell pretty easily.

Exactly I thought this was like pretty common knowledge among gamers. I’ve know this since I was a young child but I never really cared about the actual percentage rate I just knew they appeared more frequently when you run

Yeah, I didn't even think that had to be communicated. The game is pretty quick to throw you into encounters when you start running. Plus it just makes intuitive sense, if you make a ruckus going through tall grass of course pokemon are going to notice you.

Werster knows nearly anything from all the games RNG and behavior at this point

Werster is the man, dude discovered/helped spread info about an exploit in Emerald that lets you basically just rewrite the game code

​@@LunarWingCloudglitzer popping is till date my favorite Pokemon glitch to exist, that along with basic glitches like cloning and very complicated ones like ACE (arbitrary code execution) you can do almost anything in the game. Im learning how to do it rn, did my first one and got a jirachi. Now trying to learn how to take pokeballs into the battle pyramid so I can shiny hunt Charizard blastoise etc.

@@LunarWingCloud He definitely does know his stuff, but he's also kind of a bad person. We don't think that lessens his knowledge, we just wish there was a better person working on this stuff. lol For reference, we used to chat with him on IRC. Turbo asshole.

I do not trust him because his brother was clapping her girlfriend. What a loser.

it does only if you don't actually take the step. Changing direction without stopping doesnt count as an extra step.

What you said is it doesn't change the overall result, yet it changes the overall result. 🙄

@@Asidders They meant Walking is still lower encounter rate than Running.

@@Asidders It's a statistical answer. By adding more data points you aren't guaranteed to change the answer. The answer only changes if the deviation is large. Since this is an edge case with minimal data points, the result barely deviates. Therefore it does change the overall result (both sets of numbers would be higher) but not in a way that matters (1/2 = 2/4 = 3/6 = 4/8, etc).

@@H2SO4pyro Bit late to the party, but while i doesn't count as an extra step, it also has a chance of getting an encounter. Meaning that if you just turn around in the same patch of grass, you can get 100 encounters without taking a single step

Totally agree; it’s a decent sample size for a single person collecting it too (probably not enough to reject null reliably, but that’s beside the point) I’m a sucker for good experimental design and primary data collection too

I think the game even tells you that. IIRC somewhere in Johto there's a sign or trainer that tells you that you'll have more encounters on a bike.

​@@nlb137Multiple npcs tell you that in different generations, I remember knowing that on Black 1

Yea I definitely feel like someone in Johto or Hoenn mention it. Especially with Hoenn having the two kinds of bikes

This is true. However, fun fact: this is actually the opposite in G3, where biking gives you a 0.8x modifier to encounter rate.

@@Unknwnwrrior G3?

afaik in gen 3 at least the trainers that spin around actually turn around to look at you more often when youre walking/running, but the bike doesnt count towards that which is abused by speedrunners to sneak past them without getting into battles, i believe thats what thats in reference to !

In gen 4 or 5, I can't remember, whenever you ran trainers that would turn would increase their turning rate

To me this was just common sense as a kid. I realized (if you run they’re more likely to pop out)

I think that's where I got my knowledge of it too

Lots of people saying this is common sense when it really is not. I had zero idea until now.

autism

@@bubblesys i kinda like that

Cringe pfp

@@olivercharles2930 Cringe comment. Begone, bigot.

@@AzureDragon158nice pfp :))

I knew that the vending machines in Gen 5 games did that (it happened once to me in Black), but not for HGSS.

I've gotten 2 drinks from the vending machine in HGSS before a couple times, it's always a treat

That happened to me in Emerald version once where I got two drinks from a vending machine.

For getting two drinks: 1-in-64 in Gen III, IV 1-in-32 in Gen V, VI Gen VI has unclear odds for getting three drinks.

Recently I could’ve sworn I got three whole drinks in one go in alpha sapphire

I don't think 25%. You need to factor in tiles covered, but I lack the math skills to calculate

I don't remember where I've read it when I was younger but I always did it! always walked in the grass and noticed I significantly had less encounters my first game was Black 2 but I don't know if it's written anywhere in it or it makes kinda sense that running would attract more pokemons to you

@@Ismail_ibn_Ishaqthe math works out. Encounter probability is the average number of pokemon encountered per tile that you run and he’s calculating the average number of tiles per pokemon. it takes an average of 12.8 tiles to run into a pokemon while running, that is 1/12.8 = .078 pokemon per tile, which means there was a 7.8% chance in this experiment of running into a pokemon on any one tile while running. You can repeat the process for walking. So a 25% difference in average tiles per pokemon is the same as a 25% difference in encounter rate per tile.

me too on fier red and leaf green i notice more eazle a okemon enconter when runing

Agreed

Anyone here know that ending track title?? It is banger.

Dunno the ending ost, but in the running segment, one of the songs is from Bomberman Hero 64 OST ^^

Well, technically yes and no. It's the same text that appears any time you try to save while a different save file is present.

The Steven dialogue is already on the Steven Stone/Quotes page.

I don't know if the Pokemon black/white 2 hidden dialogue is on bulbapedia but I'll add it if that's not the case. Such a cool find!

I assume they would go through text data

@@PlasmaEterniause bulbagarden instead, bulbapedia is migrating to it to avoid fandom ad hell

Dialga and Palkia do respawn once each. Otherwise this is correct.

That is only true for mesprit

This is incorrect, it works in Diamond and Pearl. I know this because I accidentally KO'd my Dialga only to come back to it in it's spot after I beat the Elite Four.

It respawns in a different area like in plat@@charnalk5572

I know for a fact that at least Uxie and Azelf don't respawn. When DP was still new, I was an impatient kid and I needed to fill up the pokedex slots to get to the post-game island, so... yup :/

link? this sounds super interesting

​@@evervirescentit's a lot but I found it for you kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ipaVbLaHyNHIgqc.html

​@@evervirescentthe Video is titled "the New hg/ss route" on werster`s yt channel. Its uploaded 12 days ago (currently)

Werster is the worst

I’d say it’s been pretty well-known for a while, just that it’s something that if the game doesn’t have a spot that tells you outright, it was intrinsically picked up upon through gameplay, particularly with it being noticeable in the harder parts of the games like your Victory Roads and caves where if you ran, pretty much every 5 tiles or so generally meant you’d be running into zubats for days when going in without repels. So it was less a rumour really that it was a noticeable feature that may or may not have been explicitly stated. Likewise amongst other things, the true cause for it under the hood is simply that running advances the RNG frames faster which in turn combined with a couple things in the algorithm effectively increases the encounter rates provided you’re trying to do things normally and not use something like sweet scent, intimidate, and other moves and abilities to skew the system for the next set of frame advancements.

There is an NPC just north of Cherrygrove that does sort of mention it. Idk why it wasn’t mentioned in the vid

I swear, there's gotta be an NPC in one of the games or some kind of strategy guide that flat-out tells you this, because I knew that running got you more encounters than walking back when I first played Emerald at 9 years old. I literally knew about this while I was blasting through the game with only my Swampert because I didn't understand how to train Pokemon and spamming only attacking moves because I thought status moves were just a fancy way to waste a turn, so there's no way kid-me would have figured this shit out on their own lmao

@@Kanethedragon Weird. I have never noticed

That sounds like a school rumor and I love it! Imagine if that was true, that would actually be amazing

S A M E

I recall the Shuckle you get from a guy in G/S/C and HG/SS asks you to bring it back after the Team Rocket situation is over. You can either give it back to him, or if you made the Shuckle like you enough, he'll feel bad taking it after seeing how much it likes you, so he officially gives it to you... Otherwise he'll think of you as no better than Team Rocket for refusing to give it back if you kept it feeling indifferent to you.

​@@SorcererLanceI've never even thought of giving back his shuckle lol and ss is my favorite pokemon game. Most runs I don't even take the shuckle from him but I might use it in a playthrough to see the text. Thanks man

​@@SorcererLanceyeah it's wild the fact that in the gen 2 games you can literally steal 2 pokemon:this shuckle and the spearow a guy give you to bring a message to another guy,if you complete the quest,the other guy will take away the spearow,if you ignore the quest,well you just stole a spearow.

@@Gimas96 It was the closest you can become Team Rocket... until Pokemon XD where you're snatching dark Pokemon directly from opposing trainers

you can also take the letter away from that spearow and give it to a different mon and that guy will take that mon instead, as all it's looking for is that specific letter on some random pokemon @@Gimas96

Wym this is reality

​@@the_pineapple245No, wake up

@@savanthuman8809 I'm far too deep into the dream I can't wake up

@@savanthuman8809 💀

"The dedication is unreal" and its just him casually playing pokemon for 60 hours

I think that trainers are guaranteed to look your direction if you run past them

​@@ochuspinI know that in the Gen 5 games, so much as hitting the B button makes them look. Also, all the bikers speed up.

Spinners will always look if you move past them while running

​@@excalibur493can confirm for gen 3.

I knew this. Makes sense since you're making noise trying to run past them

Yes

My little “study” also indicated that you don’t even have to move to make the trainers turn more. Just press b or have running shoes toggled on

They turn to face you when running.

i don't know a specific video, but basically any of the pokemon speedrun "marathon" runs on channels like GDQ or ESA go into indepth detail about the mechanics of 'spinners' or 'rotators'. The recent heartgold/soulsilver BSG run yesterday talks about it a little so you can look for that to be published on youtube. some spinners are 'deaf' so don't hear your running but it will affect some of them. some of the moving npcs are 'rotators' which always spin around in a fixed pattern and otherwise will only spin in two directions. its very fascinating to learn about!!

@@lqa77 wow! That’s so neat! I’ll definitely have to look into it

Literally basic knowledge lol

The spinner thing I believe fully, it feels right anecdotally and I’ve seen a few minimum encounter videos and I think it was mentioned in all of them.

This one's definitely true and a thing since Gen 3, I'm sure there's something mentioning it in the Gen 3 games.

the issue was the percentage, not that its a thing or not.

I’m pretty sure you’ve totally missed the point champ.

​@@agata6337he definitely framed it like both the percentage and the running thing were unknown; the line about the sign knowing something we didnt just doesnt make sense if hes just talking about the exact chance since obviously the sign doesnt say the chance on it

@@maximumbeans9310Nah, I think you did. At 10:39 he acts as if nobody knew that running increased encounters at all. If it was just the percentage he was wondering, then he would’ve said that.

I did not know. And I probably spent more than 10 000 hours on pokemon. Not surprised now that I think about it though

It was never confirmed until now 😂, also some grass in gen 1 for example is misleading since there are encounter tiles and not all tiles of grass can spawn a pokemon

Yee

Frfr no cap

Indeed

Agreed.

Much yes

Yeah but its kinda IS IT REALLY?? Because besides that one sign nothing says something about it could have been just some mandela pikachu black stripe tail effect

Well its actually been heavily debated if it was true or not, theres even a research paper online that ran a similar experiment as I did and came to the conclusion that it actually was not true! But I agree I always thought there was a difference. That + the fact that details about it were entirely unknown (like for example how much percentage wise it affected the encounters) i thought I would do the biggest sample size test I have seen. The alternate title of this video is pokemon Mythbusters, and this specific fact many poeple seemed to think was a myth for a while. So I wanted to find out conclusively if it was true and it seems to be!

⁠@@h4ppyp3an4buter6considering BBP literally covered this in this episode and after the results… yeah no shit it’s a real thing how can you still be in plausible deniability about it

@@gengar618 umm im not saying that, i said that BEFORE this video there could be a doubt about it because theres no info on the wikis about the percentages and stuff

@@h4ppyp3an4buter6 again, as the original guy said it’s pretty noticeable when you’re playing the game. Many people noticed this as a kid. It’s about the ‘noise’ made by running, it’s also why trainers that turn around will look at you immediately as you try and run past, you’re making more noise and they look at you.

You can't randomly avoid a trainer battle by walking lmao

@@NightKev yes you can technically, for trainers that turn different directions, if you walk, you can dodge them, so not random, however if you run instead, it’s almost guaranteed they’ll catch you and challenge you. So walking you can dodge certain trainers.

@@tismo3749 ?? Do you mean in the sense that they probably turn around quicker due to rng running making it faster? If you're right, I wouldn't put it on the same discussion as running on grass, not because they'e not related but because running on grass is way more widely known than not running to not get caught by a trainer. That's a much more obscure thing.

@@johndinner4418 running on grass, gives more encounters. If you run in front of a moving trainer, as in looking in multiple directions, they’ll catch you no matter what side you’re on. But if you walk instead. You can get past trainers like that. Same with walking through grass, is less likely to find Pokémon.

@@johndinner4418 it’s not RNG, test it on a trainer. One that challenges you and is looking in different directions over and over. If you run, every single time, they’ll catch you.

I thought everyone knew this but now that I think about it, I'm not sure why I thought this. I don't remember the games actually ever telling me this, but I knew it for as long as I can remember

I don't think it is, but I might be wrong. It might be mentioned somewhere, but I would assume it is just a flavor text thing and not an actual in-game mechanic.

Same! I feel like it finally makes sense why they made them tap on/off in that game lol!

The amount of patience you have is admirable if you played an entire game without running shoes

There's an NPC on route 30 who tells you that like 5 minutes into the game lmao

@@ivanivanovic5857 The old man who gives you the shoes mentions it. I knew that the first time playing the game within 10 minutes

@@Che1ito No it's a bug catcher on Route 30, not the Guide Gent.

@@ivanivanovic5857 Ah you're right. I had it mixed up.

I debated making that the title!

What? How?

@@enoyna1001 Idk, I saw it on Chuggaconroys playthrough

that is not really a lottbh