This guy should review everything that plugs into a wall.
@mcconja Жыл бұрын
Jeff is awesome!
@champcityholisticfitness58347 ай бұрын
LMAO. Agreed.
@johntate5284 Жыл бұрын
Great review and so much more in depth than any of the other KZfaq channels! I just ordered one of the B80's and received it a couple of days ago. I got it mainly for use with a 40 QT DC frig and one of the PV120S panels to keep it charged in a vehicle. At some point, i will get one of the AC60's, but hoping they will have a good sale at some point. I have the AC180, along with 2 of the EB3A's, an AC200MAX and 2 of the B230 batteries for use in the house. Thanks for all the hard work:)
@damonried1720 Жыл бұрын
If you are a details geek then this sight is the place for you. I love the various charts and graphs. Hats off to you for the hundreds (thousands?) of hours that it takes to generate them.
@WaveformScience Жыл бұрын
I'm at 5641 hours of discharge time across all devices, at least if my spreedsheet is to be believed. :)
@mclaine33 Жыл бұрын
Wow Jeff, incredible analysis as always. I’m always so impressed by your videos. You go into so much depth of detail. I thought KZfaqrs like Hobotech were detailed but this is to another level. So thank you very much. I’m looking forward to seeing the future video on the B80 aviation cable to DC7909 adapter. I have a AC180 and apparently you can connect the B80 to the AC180 to charge it. I know that technically is daisy chaining like how you showed the B230 to AC180 charging so I’m curious to see how much power efficiency loss occurs via that method whenever you make that video. Thanks!
@WaveformScience Жыл бұрын
Yup. I'm working on getting one of those for exactly that video. Hopefully soon.
@MaxCaud10 ай бұрын
Just subbed. Great review, I know this takes a lot of time to do. You provide info I cannot find anywhere else
@darrelluruski1728 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this review. Your videos are always very interesting, very useful, very informative, and thorough. All of you videos are very much appreciated.
@WaveformScience Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it :)
@chargepozitive7 ай бұрын
Love that they have some output without any other unit
@mcconja Жыл бұрын
And there it is! Thanks Jeff.
@jw3843 Жыл бұрын
Great review. thanks for the in-depth info. That b80 battery looks like a great buy. I do not think they have released that special wire yet to connect it to the other power stations. I could be wrong.
@WaveformScience Жыл бұрын
Correct. The Aviation to DC7909 and Aviation to XT60 cables are not out yet. I'll have a shorter how-to on using those when they become available.
@helenasantos1959 Жыл бұрын
Great review as always! Thank you very much!
@mas9219 ай бұрын
thank you for checking the USB C PD protocols!!
@serhiy1237Ай бұрын
Superb review, btw
@FieldingSmith Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review Jeff. Really just want a right angle connector cable, otherwise I’m very happy with my AC60/B80 combo and might even pick up a 2nd B80 later on down the road.
@WaveformScience Жыл бұрын
I hear you on the angled connectors. I'd love longer cables personally.
@royd63uk5 ай бұрын
Perfect review
@pwieringa211 ай бұрын
I did place an order @ Bluetti Europe for the T200S AC-adapter ...... I can use it for lower charge ( Low = 272Watt ) at my AC180 ...... if in winter - month I can get only 200Watt or less power to charge ..... I use a solar - grid of 1500Watt/p
@mrchrisknight31511 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this great in-depth video. You always bring us so much great knowledge. I'm thinking of adding the b80 to my collection, specifically to extend the battery storage for my EB3A now that the new cable comes with it is a big incentive.👍🏾 although no AC charger is a let down👎🏾, although I guess it's there way to reduce e-waste, maybe there banking on most people buying these will have the older solar gens that used the charger you have in this video? On a side note, I'm wondering if you know if Bluetti also reserves 10 percent of the battery in the EB3A? I recently tested it running a Dometic CFX3 95dz on AC power. I ran the Eb3a down to 4 percent, and measured about 180 watts of appliance used power in a 4:32 long period. Hypothetically, by looking at your standby chart, if I add that figure it would bring my test up to 208 watts of expected power consumption, then take into consideration a 10 percent reserve, which would be 25.6 watts. That leaves a 22.4 watt conversion loss out of 230.4 user accessible power from the Eb3a. If this math is right, then Bluetti is spot on with the build. Sorry for commenting about the Eb3a on this video, I just didn't see a EB3A video from you to look at, and place this comment there. but I was thinking you shouldn't fully drain it, but if they already protect the battery by reserving 10 percent, then it had even better efficiency then I originally thought.
@davidcarrico3385 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. A question and comment. Q: what throughput does the B80 support over the cable? I am curious if it is beyond what the ac60 can use, which leads me to my comment - I really hope they come out with an ac180Max that supports true expandability with the b80 batteries. That would make a great upgrade path for owners of the ac60.
@WaveformScience Жыл бұрын
I've been told by Bluetti that the airline adapter is 30amps at ~22 volts or about 660-watts. The battery expansion cable will probably be limited to 10 amps or so if it has a DC7909 connector on the end since that DC barrel connector can only be made to push 10 amps without overheating and melting. There seems to be an XT60 version planned also, but I don't know what Bluetti has in mind for the wattage max on that one. I am also in the camp where I think that all but the smallest solar generators should have some kind of expandability.
@uncurablekill10 ай бұрын
What happens if you have just two B80s connected together? Do they perform as stand-alone units, or do they share battery capacity? Interested to see what would happen if you had two units connected together and you pulled power from just one unit.
@bravofoxtrot58114 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing using the expansion cable. Would it make a 1612WH DC battery
@Vegetarian57 Жыл бұрын
Awesome review. You are brilliant sir.
@WaveformScience Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@tonyclark6618 Жыл бұрын
I hope that you will be able to test the B80 with the EB3A when the cable is released. This should be a great combination.
@WaveformScience Жыл бұрын
I have a few different models I'm hoping to test with the B80. EB3A is very much on the list.
@FieldingSmith Жыл бұрын
Actually now I’m curious, I wonder if for keeping a fridge running full time in the car, using just the B80 instead of both would be better? Since the DC idle consumption is so low…
@WaveformScience Жыл бұрын
If it is a 12v fridge, then yes, that's absolutely feasible.
@bravofoxtrot58114 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing but connecting two B80, with the expansion cable to too have a 1612WH DC
@Fnantier Жыл бұрын
Excellent review as always! Was really looking forward to this one. AC60 with 800W or 1000W AC output would've been perfect as it would allow use of most microwave ovens, but the B80 is pretty much perfect as is. Can't wait to see what Bluetti does with their higher end line ups after their AC60, B80 and AC180 smash hits. Although for me the AC180 was a bit of a dud by not having battery expansion options + only 1x USB-C port. Any plans of review the Anker Powerhouse 767 (now renamed Anker SOLIX F2000) and/or EcoFlow Delta 2 (vanilla + Max)? For me: - Anker excels in efficiency, low noise, design, mobility (wheels), quality and power. However no DC ports on extension battery is a miss and no Wifi either, app is still quite simple. - EcoFlow makes some of the most powerful AC output units per size/weight, e.g. the Delta 2 with 1800W, not being that much bigger and heavier than the AC60 is really impressive. Also their app is simply the best, and they make really interesting smart units (Glacier, Wave), though their portable solar panes kind of suck in convenience of setting up compared to Bluetti+Anker (both of whom have quite similar portable solar panels). EcoFlow power stations used to be too noisy, but the Delta 2 Max seems to finally fix that. Best units on market for me in AC power output categories: Low (
@WaveformScience Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure that a B80 would be able to work with a 1000 watt device as is. The battery is 22.4v nominal, with a cable that supports 30 amps. The math shows 22.4*30 = 672 watts maximum output from the battery. They would have to get pretty creative to feed a 1kw inverter from a power source that only supports 0.6kw. They could do daisy chaining, but that isn't very efficient. Also, daisy chaining will be supported via an upcoming cable, so it can be used that way if you want to. I'll have a video on that when it's out.
@mclaine33 Жыл бұрын
Also I found it really surprising that Bluetti did not design their new AC180 to have an aviation input on the side like the AC60/B80 has. Seems like it would have been common sense to design the AC180 to accept a B80 via that method. I guess Bluetti decided to just go the cheaper route of the daisy chaining with the adapter cable despite the known energy inefficiency/loss that would occur.
@WaveformScience Жыл бұрын
I was told it was for cost reasons. I wasn't told what the cost difference would have been. I'm guessing probably pretty significant.
@serhiy1237Ай бұрын
B80 as expansion on eb55/eb70 is something that I’m interested in 🤔
@victorjoseph8948Ай бұрын
I have a EB3A and i use a ecoWorthy 12,8 v 50Ah lifepo4 battery. world well. 250 CAD instead of 700 $ for the B80.
@damonried1720 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice that mystery Bluetti sogen sitting in the background during the final minutes of the video?
@WaveformScience Жыл бұрын
Hrm... maybe the next video :)
@mcconja Жыл бұрын
I wish the ac180 had the capability to directly expand the watt hours. The more I research the more the 200 max, despite its weight, will be my next purchase.
@WaveformScience Жыл бұрын
I have the AC200Max in my camper, despite having other options available. The modular nature of it and flexibility is very hard to beat. It is Bluetti's flagship model for good reason.
@keithjansen1734 Жыл бұрын
200 watt power panels i have are 11 amp and 23 volts will it work?
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech Жыл бұрын
I bet his other Tech job is NASA, lol. I love your Videos Man
@WaveformScience Жыл бұрын
I'm at one of the big software tech firms. Thanks for watching!
@jw3843 Жыл бұрын
You mentioned the wire. Last I heard it was supposed to come out at the end of the month. Not sure if you have heard anything on the timeline for it yet?
@WaveformScience Жыл бұрын
I have not heard anything definitive yet. I'm eagerly waiting for it also :)
@johnRedfern Жыл бұрын
How come you didn't include the ac180
@WaveformScience Жыл бұрын
The AC180 review video is already up on the channel as a separate video. The B80 does not connect to the AC180 natively, although I'm working on another video that will show how to do that. The cable needed for that isn't quite released yet.
@mikecookson333 Жыл бұрын
I call daily for the cord to hook up my AC180 to my B80.
@WaveformScience Жыл бұрын
It isn't quite out yet. I'm working on getting a review unit for a video on it. Hopefully soon!
@Jakepp235 Жыл бұрын
I watch tech made easy channel his says 806 capacity
@WaveformScience Жыл бұрын
Yup, the manual says 806 watt hours. It says 800 watt hours printed on the front of the device. I'm guessing later versions will say 806 watt hours printed on the front.