BMW 130i - Is this the perfect hot hatch?

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That Yellow Ducati

That Yellow Ducati

Күн бұрын

I take the E87 BMW 130i for a drive and explain why I think it makes the perfect petrol head daily drive!

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@catkin1671
@catkin1671 3 жыл бұрын
Good review and good quality for someone just starting out! Keep it going
@ThatYellowDucati
@ThatYellowDucati 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I guess I had better arrange another car and get a second video up for the fans! 🤣
@jamesmedlow
@jamesmedlow 3 жыл бұрын
Great video.. I owned 2 130i's for 12 years between them. An E87 and currently an E81. Absolute belter of a car. The R32, it's dull in comparison, the noise is good but a 130i with the BMW M Performance intake and exhaust is way better.
@gixxer_jake
@gixxer_jake 3 жыл бұрын
I have a mk5 r32 what are the 130i like in comparison?
@paulburgess3088
@paulburgess3088 3 жыл бұрын
I bought my 130i in April of 2020 and I love it. Everything you said about them in your review is correct. I do like the colour of your car better than mine, but only just. I have a white one. I actually got it by chance as they are a bit rare here in NZ. I was looking for a one series so I could run grandkids about in a 5 star rated car without spending a huge amount of money and on the day that I was heading to look at a couple of 120i's I passed a yard that had this out front. Stopped and looked and bought. Very pleased as I got the sports car I wanted as a toy, and it is a nice safe 5 door for transporting the little ones. Your comment about it being so easy to drive at slower legal speeds is also spot on. My130i is easier to drive at the legal open road, or any other, speed than my wife's X1 (3liter). And mine has 45 more horses.
@llliiillliiiiiilll
@llliiillliiiiiilll 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I have the 125i coupe (same engine) and I love it to pieces, still puts a smile on my face every day i drive it! Although that n52 is mighty thirsty when you put your foot down its worth every penny :)
@stujeffrey
@stujeffrey 3 жыл бұрын
Nice content! Great drivers cars these. Largely overlooked back in the day!
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed.
@ThatYellowDucati
@ThatYellowDucati 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I absolute love your channel and I really appreciate the support.
@user-sm7yd4yy4j
@user-sm7yd4yy4j 3 жыл бұрын
I've got one - 130i 2006, great car - simple and fun to drive
@recklesshoongarage566
@recklesshoongarage566 3 жыл бұрын
Ay same one I got, mines red!
@Mr-Newstead
@Mr-Newstead 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. You have a nice and relaxed way of presenting. I'll look forward to your next one. :)
@talo800
@talo800 3 жыл бұрын
excellent presentation and great post-processing, good work! Best yet, you picked 130i as the first showcase~
@vnpanayotov
@vnpanayotov Жыл бұрын
I still have a 2008 130i. I bought it from the 1st owner in 2012 at less than 16,000 km. It's at 108,000 km now and I just can't sell it! It's such a pleasure to drive it! 😊 The only problem with it is that I get often fined for overspeeding... 🤣
@TheGratziano
@TheGratziano Жыл бұрын
hey, wanna buy one in couple of days... 127k miles? is it a lot? 3500quid?
@NicolasOulevay
@NicolasOulevay 3 жыл бұрын
I owned a pre LCI model for 12 years. It has been a joy in London city and amazing in the Swiss mountains. This car is a must and is a bargain these days.
@E12m535i
@E12m535i 3 жыл бұрын
I would never have known this was your first go at this. Great work, you are super easy and interesting to watch and I really hope you continue with more car reviews. Subscribed in the hope that you do!
@tomthompson7400
@tomthompson7400 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought one ,,, so far Im loving it , Ill swap the boot badge for a 116 badge and no one will even look at it in car parks let alone nick it ,,, not bad for a sub 7 second hatch back.
@bmw-130i
@bmw-130i 3 жыл бұрын
hi Jack! well done great video you made there! congrats!... especially on the car!! ;-)
@AndyEder
@AndyEder 3 жыл бұрын
Great first effort mate. Well done!
@valentijn9
@valentijn9 3 жыл бұрын
This was a very good video. Nicely done!
@peterrhoda9038
@peterrhoda9038 Жыл бұрын
Have had an '06 manual as a daily driver since 2008 and I still love it dearly - can't bring myself to sell it - the only thing you MUST add is a Quaife (or similar) LSD. Trust me here...
@freddyking7388
@freddyking7388 Жыл бұрын
Really good job! No BS! You know the subject 👌. Subscribed.
@uport2
@uport2 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video and great car, congratulations!
@alfmarajo9634
@alfmarajo9634 3 жыл бұрын
Good video man, I need more of this 130i
@bram3570
@bram3570 3 жыл бұрын
This car will increase in value! Especially with the M package! Keep and maintain it well and have fun!
@anothercarchannel9635
@anothercarchannel9635 3 жыл бұрын
Most underrated car 2020
@claudiushempstead9893
@claudiushempstead9893 9 ай бұрын
I have a 130 E81 LE and it has Birds BMW suspension and Diff it has a lot going for it. If you drive it sensibly ( I know that’s hard) I get 30 plus MPG regularly. Don’t give it the beans until it is properly warm otherwise it wears the engine dramatically. Mine has 130k still pulls well and is fun on the track.
@jonas.3442
@jonas.3442 Жыл бұрын
First of all: Great making and editing. You really earned that follow :) Only thing: audio of the drive by shots could be better, but that's just a tip for the future haha. Regarding the power steering: I drive a 120i LCI and to me, it really feels a bit numb. However, I recently got to drive a 130i LCI and it was a completely different experience. I think you can really notice the engineers put some extra love in the 130i if you know what I mean :D
@ThatYellowDucati
@ThatYellowDucati Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I really want to get back into making these. It's been a couple of years now... Audio was all recorded on the old Canon 650D Internal mic... so yeah, it was bad 👎 I've got a better set of mics and recorders now so can get better audio. I've also got better cameras now as well. As for the power steering, since making the video, I've had chance to drive a pre-LCI. The steering did provide more feedback but at the cost of comfort. It wasn't impossible to live with day to day, but I do like the LCI steering more for daily use. And like I said in the video. Its hardly numb haha. Its more than good enough.
@neildempster2827
@neildempster2827 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds beautiful. 👍
@Roadwarrior92
@Roadwarrior92 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work. I'm subbed now 🤙
@claudiushempstead9893
@claudiushempstead9893 9 ай бұрын
For an early electronic steering it is incredibly good. The only drawback is you do not feel the steering load up like a wrack and pinion.
@vraelatao2264
@vraelatao2264 3 жыл бұрын
Great review ! Not the most powerful engine overall, but the best atmospheric engine produced by bmw in any non-M car at the time ! (Only turbocharged/compressed engines were more powerfull if you exclude M cars). It's always a pleasure to see car fans review the 130i. This car gets rarely mentionned nowadays despite its great features. Greetings from France 🇨🇵, keep it up !! 😊
@SChapps
@SChapps 3 жыл бұрын
I currently have an Abarth but would love to get into one of these
@captaincrazy5075
@captaincrazy5075 Жыл бұрын
I never thought to find a review of a 130i made by A.J. Soprano himself ;) Great video about a great car!
@ThatYellowDucati
@ThatYellowDucati 11 ай бұрын
Haha. I'll take that as a compliment. Brilliant character in a brilliant TV show. 😅
@captaincrazy5075
@captaincrazy5075 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely agreed.👍@@ThatYellowDucati
@viliambena6767
@viliambena6767 3 жыл бұрын
e87 m47 118d 90 (120 softed ) kw diesel was my first car 😍
@tomscott88
@tomscott88 3 жыл бұрын
Good vid buddy! Great content and good in front of the cam! Watch the audio sync tho bit out and boomy in places and is there a reason why it’s 720p 50? Happy to help if you want :) and if you want to use the Z4M or C4S more than happy 👍🏻
@ThatYellowDucati
@ThatYellowDucati 3 жыл бұрын
Ha, absolutely no reason its 720p and 50fps, thay was just what the camera was set up as. I've shot the MINI GP video im doing now in 1080p 30fps as this seems a more sensible format 👍. Id take any help and tips you can throw my way on the sound front...I think part of the problem is the equipment...no mic for the DSLR and only a cheap lapel mic and old phone using a voice recorder app for me. Feel free to message me on Facebook or Instagram mate if you've got some time. Oh, and the photos you posted of the Z4M looking all autumnal. They were 🔥🔥🔥.
@Kensei32
@Kensei32 3 жыл бұрын
love this car !
@ThatYellowDucati
@ThatYellowDucati 3 жыл бұрын
It's a fantastic car. Brilliant all rounder as I've said.
@f20dserie_el15
@f20dserie_el15 2 жыл бұрын
Nice car!
@siugarfield7647
@siugarfield7647 3 жыл бұрын
I am glad I have one, even though is a auto. however not too many people value this car
@lucaalux
@lucaalux 3 жыл бұрын
RIP 1 series (afrer F40 release), the last bmw 1 series was F20 and F21
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I can see your heart is in the right place. That being said, there are a few things I think you could make even better: 1: Surely a similarly equipped Golf GTI would have been way way cheaper at the time, partially explaning why it was more popular? A focus probably would have been cheaper still? As I remember it, the competitive price of BMWs compared to others is a 2010 and later phenomenon? At least in my country, a 130i compared to a GTI would have been at least £10k more at the time. 2: I remember the boot space as being reasonably in line with other cars at the time. The rears seats were not very spacious though, for sure. Better than a Polo, worse than a Golf, would be my estimation. 3: Unless I misunderstood: "The most powerful engine in any non M BMW for sale at the time" ; BMW had loads of non M cars with more power, even diesels at the time... Highest power NA petrol Non M 6 cylinder, yes. But didnt you just say that? So, dont really get that one. All in all, I like your review. Had a 123d myself, which was a bit of a sleeper tuned, if you can stand diesels. Even made a little bit more power than the 130i. Thumbs up.
@ThatYellowDucati
@ThatYellowDucati 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I had a whole section on price and comparison between the Golf GTI, Focus ST and Audi S3, but it made the video quite long and I lost interest in my own voice so cut it. And yeah, the "most powerful engine" bit is also wrong. Its the most powerful 6 cylinder engine in an none M. Not the most powerful all together. I miss understood the press release when doing my research. All lessons learnt
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatYellowDucati All well and good. Just a small correction, sorry. Most powerful non turbo 6 cyl, as there were turbo diesel 6 cylinders with a smidgen more horsepower. As I said, I like your style and will be interested in seeing more videos from you, I am just a stickler for details, sorry.
@kip8790
@kip8790 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatYellowDucati surely the 135i coupe was more powerful?? I have an E81 same as yours, love it.
@thomashorneman563
@thomashorneman563 3 жыл бұрын
reduce the back ground music its way to loud, gave it a thumbs up for the rest of the show
@ThatYellowDucati
@ThatYellowDucati 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the feedback Thomas. It's all a learning experience. 👌
@manudelsolk20
@manudelsolk20 Жыл бұрын
love the 130i... looking to buy one in the near future. have you ecu tuned it? im looking to do i/h/e and remap it, and i didnt find any info about bolt ons on internet :/
@ThatYellowDucati
@ThatYellowDucati Жыл бұрын
It's not had a remap or ECU tune. There really isn't much to be gained form a remap or tune on them. Even doing basic breather mods doesn't make much difference if anything. Just a trait of NA engines.
@nvl2691
@nvl2691 Жыл бұрын
@@ThatYellowDucati Remap and headers on these is 20 bhp. That's not negligible, especially by NA standards.
@Utkarsh_A
@Utkarsh_A 3 ай бұрын
3:51 what is that key hole there by the AC vent ? Pretty sure mine doesn't have that
@ThatYellowDucati
@ThatYellowDucati 3 ай бұрын
It's for the passenger airbag. You can turn it off using the key so that you can mount a rear facing child seat on the front passenger seat.
@hamwoollard2651
@hamwoollard2651 2 жыл бұрын
I currently own and old 2004 120i, I'm looking out for a good 130i, are they much more to insure?
@ThatYellowDucati
@ThatYellowDucati 2 жыл бұрын
Difficult to say as I don't know what you're paying, where you keep your car, your level of NCB and how old you are. So many factors to consider beyond performance alone. You're best off calling your insurance company and getting a personal quote and then calling a few competitors to see what they come back with.
@marley354
@marley354 3 жыл бұрын
Nice car had one but electric problems where bad for me and even the brake servo broke on me at 100 thousand
@azypk
@azypk 3 жыл бұрын
"Yes."
@kinetickhaos6144
@kinetickhaos6144 3 жыл бұрын
Love these but I like the e81 shape more cause of the frame less doors and stiffer chassis but they are so rare in the UK but e87 is more practical
@jakubkost7330
@jakubkost7330 Жыл бұрын
damn, they go for minimum of 8k in my country, maybe 6k if i import from germany
@thefaster69
@thefaster69 2 жыл бұрын
Nice car...i owned one
@optiksnipegaming9720
@optiksnipegaming9720 2 жыл бұрын
What turbo would i use for the 130i bmw?
@asto7795
@asto7795 2 жыл бұрын
Check out ImJoel and his build, pretty sure he has a turbo N52 build.
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, unfortunately the poor room in the rear ruled this out as a company car for me in 2004.
@jimftr
@jimftr 2 жыл бұрын
I think the E87 130/35i are great cars, however when it comes to holding value i think the M135 and M140 will be the sought after ones in the future.
@gpajic1987
@gpajic1987 2 жыл бұрын
I think the 130i with hydraulic steering and last NA motor will be more sought after
@aracnid23
@aracnid23 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you Pacmancereal, but that'd just be for the appeal of owning a more distinguished M badge. The E87 130i will always be a real gem. The first performance car of the very first 1 Series generation.
@tomthompson7400
@tomthompson7400 3 жыл бұрын
I killed my c30 t5 ,, one of these is next , but the prices are climbing.
@ThatYellowDucati
@ThatYellowDucati 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you need to be quick when they come up as well. Price is rising and demand is out stripping supply. Good ones don't seem to hang about when they are realistically priced.
@tomthompson7400
@tomthompson7400 3 жыл бұрын
​@@ThatYellowDucati they are now the same price as a z4 coupe , same spec so as much as I would like a 1 hatch the z4 is looking like a more realistic option , a year ago they were half the price they are today , I also think covid is helping to encourage folk to hang on to what they have , and here in Northern Ireland there is now a 20% import tax on cars from the rest of the UK , hardly fair , but there we go .
@ashikabbasali1836
@ashikabbasali1836 5 ай бұрын
I'm buying one I found one
@Will0w_Th3rianPawzz
@Will0w_Th3rianPawzz Жыл бұрын
Not sure if I should get this or rx8
@phoenixlounge7656
@phoenixlounge7656 Жыл бұрын
Get a 130i man, if you get the m sport, oh man wait till you feel the handling OMG
@Will0w_Th3rianPawzz
@Will0w_Th3rianPawzz Жыл бұрын
@@phoenixlounge7656 Really? M sport. All the review i read was that the I35i was boring compared to the RX8.
@jacekzubek8757
@jacekzubek8757 Жыл бұрын
@@Will0w_Th3rianPawzz RX8 are junk, worst motor Mazda made. Most only lasted about 60-80k miles. 130 you can drive on the limit all day every day and will last forever. Im sure that even 130 is faster than RX8
@Will0w_Th3rianPawzz
@Will0w_Th3rianPawzz Жыл бұрын
@@jacekzubek8757 Engine swap the rx8 problem solved. People are putting camaro, ks and ls1 in them. Boom!!
@jacekzubek8757
@jacekzubek8757 Жыл бұрын
@@Will0w_Th3rianPawzz That kind of defeats the purpose plus it cost a wad of money. Talking standard packages the RX8 is junk comparing to 130i and used prices show this.
@IIViKzYII
@IIViKzYII 3 жыл бұрын
what's the reliability like in the 130i?
@stujeffrey
@stujeffrey 3 жыл бұрын
Strong engine. If well maintained will give loads of miles.
@ThatYellowDucati
@ThatYellowDucati 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, mines been spot on since I've had it. Look after it with servicing and its pretty much bomb proof.
@ThatYellowDucati
@ThatYellowDucati 3 жыл бұрын
...maybe I jinxed it! 🤣 Just needed a £700 water pump with labour, VAT and consumables after mine failed. It was the original water pump mind you and had done 98k miles since 2007. Turns out the pump on these engines is an expensive bit of kit! 🤣
@bwdrives
@bwdrives 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatYellowDucati that's seriously impressive you got 98k miles out of it, they usually fail between 40-60k lol
@peterrhoda9038
@peterrhoda9038 Жыл бұрын
Have had a 2006 130i for 15 years / 143k miles (in my hands); never skimped on maintenance. Apart from normal wear and tear items (tyres, brakes, shocks, suspension rubbers etc.) , I've had to replace water pump twice, clutch once, dif bearings (did a Quaife LSD upgrade), radiator once, roof lining and bonnet shocks once - and that's about it! Super-reliable. Always used Mobil One and Ravenol only, engine still as sweet as the day I bought it.
@darnedmallard8924
@darnedmallard8924 Жыл бұрын
This? A hot hatch? My Snatch isn't even warm yet? Wait, what?
@ThatYellowDucati
@ThatYellowDucati 11 ай бұрын
Drive one in anger and tell me it doesn't have the makings of a hot hatch about it?! Manual... NA engine... hatchback body and handling... 200+ BHP... RWD... 🤷‍♂️ I've still got it 3 years on! It's class.
@davidmcnamara3243
@davidmcnamara3243 10 ай бұрын
It needs racing cans, to awake the lazy engine. Plus a load of other mods and it's one of the greatest etc!!!!
@vladimirart758
@vladimirart758 3 жыл бұрын
BMW it’s always going with automatic gearbox-except maybe bmw 1 .
@sleepercell9926
@sleepercell9926 3 жыл бұрын
Great car but didn't measure up to the all round fun and performance of a Golf R32 and both of those cars are just way too thirsty to be used practically nowadays.
@kip8790
@kip8790 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing that was better about my R32 was the noise. I use my 130i as a practical daily now and never looked back.
@recklesshoongarage566
@recklesshoongarage566 3 жыл бұрын
It beats a R32... What are you on about and just get a 135i exhaust for the 130i and it trashes the r32 lol.. Dont get me wrong, the r32 is a cool car but no way near cool as the 130i with it''s simple things added to it such as 135i exhaust and rear lip wing and specially if u score one in red!
@frifrias1068
@frifrias1068 2 жыл бұрын
2:06 Turbocharge? … NA
@ThatYellowDucati
@ThatYellowDucati 2 жыл бұрын
I was talking about the last generation F20/F21 M140i, nit the 130i.
@Soarin8
@Soarin8 3 жыл бұрын
E82 > E87 imo
@ThatYellowDucati
@ThatYellowDucati 3 жыл бұрын
Less practical though. Making less of an all rounder. The E87 does more for more people!
@Soarin8
@Soarin8 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatYellowDucati very true!
@kristianspencer1978
@kristianspencer1978 3 жыл бұрын
Nice,but I’d have a golf r32. Looks better and sounds better. And rare. The 3 door.
@ThatYellowDucati
@ThatYellowDucati 3 жыл бұрын
Looks is subjective. I personally think the 1 series of this generation is a great looking car. As for sound, with the right exhaust mods, the N52 can sound just as good as the VR6. But yeah, the Golf is a far more sensible package. It just doesn't offer the same driving characteristics that the 130i offers. I'm glad I went this way.
@kip8790
@kip8790 3 жыл бұрын
R32 looks are no match for a nice spec 1, r32 does sound nicer though less power.
@MrRoyck10
@MrRoyck10 3 жыл бұрын
The R32 is all fart no poop, on the go the 1 series will give at least 3 double deckers, even my old Audi TT MK2 spanks the R32 but performance apart, the R32 is one of the best sounding hot hatches ever made. They are both equally nice cars to own, not sure the R32 is rarer to see, better looking is down to choice but a rear wheel drive straight six is the better sports car.
@recklesshoongarage566
@recklesshoongarage566 3 жыл бұрын
Pfffff as if, r32's are cool but nah, the 130i is WAY better specially if u get it in red with a 135i rear exhaust.
@mrm.4434
@mrm.4434 3 жыл бұрын
The perfect hot hatch is a 147 GTA
@ThatYellowDucati
@ThatYellowDucati 3 жыл бұрын
Thats a good call. I've always liked them, they sound fantastic. But they are now entering the relms of Garage Queens and not really a usable daily without fear of devaluation. Prices have gone over £10k for a good one. The reason the 130i stands out to me is the whole package. Fruity engine, rear wheel drive, decent handling, and more importantly, can still be purchased for sensible money. Saying that...value is all relative to the individual.
@jasontietnan5447
@jasontietnan5447 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatYellowDucati couldn't agree more,have a 2008 130i in Le Mans blue and with good maintenance bullet proof fun every drive
@recklesshoongarage566
@recklesshoongarage566 3 жыл бұрын
M, clearly u have never driven a 130i and not to mention a 130i beats the GTA easy
@mrm.4434
@mrm.4434 3 жыл бұрын
@@recklesshoongarage566 The 147 gta took the best lap, and it was with an automatic gearbox..imagine if it was manual
@recklesshoongarage566
@recklesshoongarage566 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrm.4434 I could kick that 147 gta in my 130i lmao... See people are going crazy about the 147 gta but the 130i in the video is the US variant which is a bit slower then the UK/AU model...
@OliverWahlm
@OliverWahlm 2 ай бұрын
At least make it look cool. Do some mods
@lucasvonheiz1310
@lucasvonheiz1310 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, 130i is a big disapointement. I used to have it, i'm a bmw boy. Yes the n52 pulls like hell. But chassis is just shit. Understeery as hell (even with M pack) Lacks so much of mechanical lsd And needs bilstein b8/eibach prokit to work proprely. But it's not an M. So you can't really moan about that. But BMW did not work proprely on it. Sad.
@ThatYellowDucati
@ThatYellowDucati 3 жыл бұрын
Mines fitted with the B12 kit and has various new bushes and good tyres. It's handles well enough. I've not bee disappointed by it. You are right though, it's not an M car by any stretch. Gor a fun daily, its a decent car.
@jasontietnan5447
@jasontietnan5447 2 жыл бұрын
More front camber helps with understeer and a better driver can also help,bad tradesman blames his tools :-)
@lucasvonheiz1310
@lucasvonheiz1310 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasontietnan5447 lol, tell that to Lewis Hamilton. And more front camber, because you think on stock suspension you can do that? Stop saying bullshit just to look shiny. 130i is a fast hatch, not a gti, period.
@jasontietnan5447
@jasontietnan5447 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucasvonheiz1310 fastest mk5 gti bridge to gantry is 8.08,130i done it in 8.04 so I'm glad it's not a gti thanks for pointing that out!
@lucasvonheiz1310
@lucasvonheiz1310 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasontietnan5447 so gti for you are only golfs? You know it's a category? Nevermind.
@poliniorop6437
@poliniorop6437 Жыл бұрын
it's not a hatch , hatch fwd only, it's rwd compact touring car
@ThatYellowDucati
@ThatYellowDucati Жыл бұрын
Depends where you're from. Here in the UK. It's a hatch. Any car with a boot lid that incorporates the rear window and is hinged at the top is referred to as a hatch back.
@nvl2691
@nvl2691 Жыл бұрын
Hatch is short for hatchback, which is, by definition: "a car with a door across the full width at the back end that opens upwards to provide easy access for loading". Thus, the 130i is a hatch.
@Manuel-gs6qw
@Manuel-gs6qw Жыл бұрын
​@@nvl2691 well by that explanation a 3/5 series touring would also be a hatchback. But i agree that it makes more sense for a bigger car to be called touring rather than hatchback
@nvl2691
@nvl2691 Жыл бұрын
@@Manuel-gs6qw Yes, technically Estates and Touring are hatchbacks. Just… bigger.
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