Richard Hudson Evans take us through their new BMW 'Economy' range - the BMW 1602. First shown: 28/11/1974 If you would like to license a clip form this video please e mail: archive@fremantlemedia.com Quote: VT9867
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@charlesmacgilchrist36486 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty mean exhaust sound for an economy car!
@team33834 жыл бұрын
It was the economy version of the BMW range, but still light years ahead of anything British Leyland in the same category.
@EmilehUnk3 жыл бұрын
No katalysator 🙃
@Kiinell6 жыл бұрын
I know it's sad, but I'm starting to look forward to Sunday mornings for these clips.
@RazSux6 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@PiggyWiggyO5 жыл бұрын
" looking forward to Sunday mornings for these clips." Do you not get Saturday off? All part of today's working world
@kevinpatrickmacnutt6 жыл бұрын
The vent windows were much more effective than dash ventilation.
@QuadMochaMatti5 жыл бұрын
I think my late father preferred the old vent window/wind wings arrangement. By coincidence, we had a number of vehicles in the family with them - including my first car, a second-hand 1986 VW Mk 1 Wolfsburg Cabriolet. Ironically that also came equipped with A/C.
@owensteele1645 Жыл бұрын
Stunning little cars. It's very upsetting that this white 2002 Turbo only lasted until June 1984.😭 Imagine how much it would've been worth today. Such a shame.
@McVaio4 ай бұрын
So far for build quality
@sdry16882 жыл бұрын
I was an apprentice Mechanic in the late 70s and we serviced a lot of BMWs because my garage had been a BMW sub- dealer. BMs turned heads in the 70s - they were considered expensive. Probably difficult to understand if you're under 40 (some BMWs are expensive today but they don't have the cache of the 70s)
@enricofumi80726 жыл бұрын
could you belive, bmw back in the days were simple and light.
@M.S-Music5 жыл бұрын
And ugly as they still are...
@kamrankhan-lj1ng4 жыл бұрын
Too simple and too light back then
@richardrichard54092 жыл бұрын
Certainly better built, although that ain't saying much
@RocknTorb6 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I really love the 02-Series from BMW!! Actually my favourite BMW of all times.
@anthonybeech6766 жыл бұрын
I would happily pay the 1974 asking price for that turbo ;-)
@3DPeter6 жыл бұрын
you get the turbo for that money, but without the rest of the car.
@rudyiraheta806 жыл бұрын
remember year 99
@user-rc1ke1ef3t5 жыл бұрын
I almost bought one that used to belong to Jay Kay, didn’t fancy at the time, I was after a 911 wish I had now.
@ketoking94356 жыл бұрын
When cars didn't all look the same,,,
@marks66635 жыл бұрын
globalism has completely ruined styling. All cars are now designed in wind tunnels and intended to be sold in global markets, so they all end up being the same egg shape.
@DSGNflorian4 жыл бұрын
@B Brunson Because "individualistic" styling doesn't sell. Conformism sells. Watch any automaker stick out their styling neck too much and a tsunami of derision and ridicule ensues, magnified a millionfold today by the broad-path flamethrower effect of social media, where the perpetrators are self-appointed but rarely qualified arbiters of good taste with a zero-tolerance policy towards the opinions of others. That scares off the majority of herd-mentality prospects who usually also seek to attain some measure of social validation with their purchase, leaving as customers for "individualistic" cars only the hardiest of non-conformists who not only don't care what other people think, but want to make a deliberate contrarian statement. Not enough of those folks around who also have money AND want to purchase. Black, silver or white SUV anyone?
@bojanarezina23524 жыл бұрын
@B Brunson it's now aerodynamics so much as safety
@Ismalith4 жыл бұрын
@B Brunson At what speeds and how much power and weight do you move with the same mpg? Remember a car that hit 1,4 Tons in the 70s was massive overweight, the 2002 BMW weights about a ton and has 100 to 130 HP (excluding the turbo). The new BMW weighs about 1,5 to 1,7 tons and has 140 to 190 HP. And those HP are actually misleading, because the old BMW has 120 to 140 Nm of torque at about 3000 rpm while the new one has 220 Nm for the small one, over a range of 1500rpm to 4000 rpm and for the Diesel about 350 to 400 Nm at about 1700 to 2500 rpm. Also the new BMW is way wider. So keeping the same mpg as the old one would not be a bad achievement, but I am certain that the new one is better than you claim it to be. The gas consumption is listed with 11 Liter for the 2002 and for the new one 4,5 for the Diesel and 6l for the smaller Otto version while the big one is listed with 7l. So even if we assume that the gas consumption of the new ones is very optimistic I only see the biggest one to get over 9l, until you drive it fast. The smaller ones are probably realistically a bit lower than 7l per 100km. That is a difference of 20% for the biggest BMW 2 2020 and nearly 40% for the smaller gas version. So the BMW 2 2020 is bigger, a lot heavier, wider, faster, more powerful and still uses a lot less gas. I guess you easily can see that aerodynamic has a part in this.
@stepha59262 жыл бұрын
In other words, when there were designers with balls and talent in the car design industry.
@esssexboy3 жыл бұрын
I love these cars... Also the baby Audi 80 of the same period. Something about these small old german cars, they ooz character modern cars don't seem to have
@rorycampbell73605 жыл бұрын
The 2002, still an Eye catcher. It's stance and stripes, what a beauty.
@catjudo13 жыл бұрын
"The BMW Turbo was the first turbocharged car to enter production." Except that the Oldsmobile Jetfire offered a turbocharged V8 called the Turbo-Rocket in 1962, while the Chevrolet Corvair Corsa introduced the Spyder package that featured a turbo variant of Chevrolet's air cooled flat six a month later.
@rjft70036 жыл бұрын
Had to watch twice as I got distracted listening to the presenter revving the engine. 😁
@Edvard.Munchkin3 жыл бұрын
Same here 😂
@apj3414 ай бұрын
And he seemed to pull out with the cross traffic just flying !!
@Porsche996driver5 жыл бұрын
Wow that 1602 was cool and nice exhaust sounds - then they pop in the Turbo! Zeitgeist.
@seed_drill71355 жыл бұрын
Amusing for Americans that he calls that trunk "cavernous" considering you could almost fit that car in the trunk of a '74 Chrysler.
@ssdivizion3 жыл бұрын
This was carwow back in the 70's :0)
@Spookieham6 жыл бұрын
Epsom Racecourse again - spent many Sundays in that car park. Mike Brewer from Wheeler Dealers used to be up there as well just as his TV career was starting.
@Mark1405Leeds6 жыл бұрын
A nice looking car which is still seen occasionally on the road. From the side it reminds me of a Wartburg.
@spankysmp6 жыл бұрын
Gawd - it does. I always remember - my Mum and Dad had friends and they always bought Wartburgs.
@Mark1405Leeds6 жыл бұрын
I used to own one - a great car - 26 mpg!
@andrewshore2626 жыл бұрын
2 stroke engine I remember them they stank
@stevetaylor86986 жыл бұрын
I love the smell of 2 stroke. You can strawberry flavoured oil now.
@eddiejones.redvees4 жыл бұрын
My dad had m reg Warburg from new it was a great car
@goldiestimeschannel21855 жыл бұрын
The sound exhaust love it
@leeenglandland29786 жыл бұрын
My dream car years ago, the only thing that let it down was why didn't BMW change the wipers over for the UK market as they're still set for LHD models.
@stevetaylor86986 жыл бұрын
VW were guilty of this for many years also.
@nobbynobbynoob5 жыл бұрын
It was a common mistake in those days: many British Leyland cars were RHD with LHD wipers too.
@nobbynobbynoob5 жыл бұрын
@@stevetaylor8698 They seemed to fix that circa '85.
@team33834 жыл бұрын
@@nobbynobbynoob THAT wasn't a mistake. BL were just plain idiots. Fortunately for the rest of the world, the majority of BL cars were RHD and stayed in Britain. Those that were exported to the nostalgic expats around the world served as a reminder as how NOT to build a car.
@delewan5 жыл бұрын
Good to know the seatbelts didn't retract even when they were brand new. That always drove my dad nuts in our 2002 tii.
@philnewstead53884 жыл бұрын
Did they have retractable belts in 1974? I remember a friend of my father had a BMW saloon, can't remember if it was called a five series back then but that had static belts. I remember being very impressed because it had rear belts, also static which was almost unheard of in the U.K. at the time.
@delewan4 жыл бұрын
@@philnewstead5388 Our 72 definitely had them. Maybe it was because it was a US spec car. They might as well have been static, though! The never worked.
@philnewstead53884 жыл бұрын
Geoff Isabelle Maybe they were a cost option, I well remember the BL advertising proudly announcing that the entire 1976 model range were to be fitted with retractable belts prior to that they had been optional on all but the top models. They never retracted properly either. I love these old reports, reminds when there was still proper innovation in the motor industry and where manufacturers weren't scared to genuinely be different.
@markhealey940911 ай бұрын
US spec cars still were not required to have retractable seatbelts in 1972.....not sure when they were required,but thinking maybe 1974. Volvos had retractable ones front & rear in the early 70s,maybe even late 60s.
@janeeccleston91964 жыл бұрын
It’s beautiful even in brown 😁
@Aarontlondon6 жыл бұрын
Crazy to see the M sport design in it's infancy!
@apj3414 ай бұрын
Alpina influence as well 👍
@chrispenn7156 жыл бұрын
The handbrake was an optional extra!
@3DPeter6 жыл бұрын
where did you hear that nonsense?
@chrispenn7156 жыл бұрын
3DPeter it is a joke. The car rolls forward as he gets out- presumably forgot to apply the handbrake...........
@memeagain41065 жыл бұрын
@@3DPeter lighten up fella
@grndiesel6 жыл бұрын
Easily one of the most legit cars ever made.
@davidg40265 жыл бұрын
I wonder if that presenter had any idea that in 45 years that BMW 2002 Turbo would be worth more than his house!
@Pinzpilot1015 жыл бұрын
I remember when 'Custom Car' Magazine called RHE Richard Hudson Terraplane....in a nice way of course.
@rez44054 жыл бұрын
They way he said 2002.as in the engine size I thought he was talking about the year lol this is 1974 way before my time
@pkelly200915 жыл бұрын
I really want one, looks really cool
@tsomeone9505 жыл бұрын
Still a good looking car and it sounded great. The cortina does look cheap in comparison
@OMENAHILLO-kr5hn4 жыл бұрын
I LIKE IT
@geoffreylee51995 жыл бұрын
Timeless design ...
@xsduprwd39376 жыл бұрын
Love the TURBO
@DSGNflorian5 жыл бұрын
The good Mr. Evans is about 12 years too late at 4:02 when he talks of the BMW 2002 Turbo as the "The first turbo-charged car to go into mass production". That would have been the 1962 Oldsmobile F-85 Jetfire, introduced in late 1961.
@RWL20124 жыл бұрын
not on the UK market, though...
@bobilori88744 жыл бұрын
Sounds fabulous 👏👏👍
@jezb97626 жыл бұрын
Back when the BMW badge stood for something.
@wholeNwon6 жыл бұрын
The badge still stands for something. It's just that the "something" isn't very flattering.
@wholeNwon5 жыл бұрын
@Mrfootlong Of course, different people have varying opinions as to what constitutes a "good car". To me it's a car with great longevity, excellent crash protection and very, very low frequency of repair rate. As they age, BMWs really fall down on the last point.
@mrquordlepleen5 жыл бұрын
Ah yes. BMW was a thinking persons choice and a car to be admired and desired, said a lot about the driver who chose one over the 'mainstream' exec's/sporty saloon of the day. They're still well made cars - but so are so many others. They still say a lot about the driver today, thats true. But it's not at all flattering.
@user-rc1ke1ef3t5 жыл бұрын
BMW used to be a proper prestige marque, they are everywhere now just like Mercs. No where near the mystique or desire ability that they used to have.
@team33834 жыл бұрын
@classiccarz middle aged rich women
@1258-Eckhart5 жыл бұрын
My first car (but the original version).
@DrumToTheBassWoop5 жыл бұрын
Glad those hairstyles, went the way of that car.
@k956upg5 жыл бұрын
Very quick......100 in 20seconds!!!! Gosh how times moved on.
@melciveng6 жыл бұрын
Classic lines
@DoubleDeckerAnton6 жыл бұрын
Nice classic here!
@nkt16 жыл бұрын
Great colour, same as Jack Lemmon's car in The China Syndrome. Pity about the federal bumpers and marker lights fitted to his example.
@mr.y.mysterious.video15 жыл бұрын
Only problem with German cars In 1974 is there wasn't a Japanese model half the price and twice as good to get instead
@appalachiahiker8535 жыл бұрын
mr y mysterious video moron
@ewaf886 жыл бұрын
Looks like Richard is still involved in the car business - auctions now. This BMW would have cost an inflation adjusted £18,800
@Larryloafer4885 жыл бұрын
Don’t shoot the messenger here but.. A ‘quarter light’ is in the body of a car, a ‘Vent’ is in the door, even to this day car reviewers get it wrong..
@michaelwest62386 жыл бұрын
Always wanted a 1602 in Colorado orange
@andrewsmactips6 жыл бұрын
Head rests? More like shoulder blade rests.
@johnnycage36734 жыл бұрын
Most people, reviewers included, did put it in the lowest possible position back in the 70s.
@nlpnt6 жыл бұрын
The BMW 2002 turbo wasn't the first turbo production car; the 1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire. Unfortunately, they made it the only way to get a true hardtop coupe in the F-85 line, people bought it for that and ran the fluid injection dry.
@Blaa_Boi6 жыл бұрын
nlpnt True, but I guess Evans was talking in terms of European manufacturers. Either way he was damn lucky to drive the 2002 considering it lasted only a year.
@S7EVE_P6 жыл бұрын
Never been a fan of the BMW particularly, but even less so these days now that so many of the roads idiots seem to own one.
@gdawgsuper7584 жыл бұрын
U have never lived
@herrfister14774 жыл бұрын
Ok. Thanks for joining in.
@friendlypiranha7749 ай бұрын
I love the colour
@vnktravi4 жыл бұрын
Wow the Germans were far ahead of everyone at that time
@gfree41734 жыл бұрын
Still are
@Blaa_Boi6 жыл бұрын
The 2002 has been lost, according to the DVLA it was due to be taxed in June '84
@person.X.6 жыл бұрын
They used to rust badly
@RWL20126 жыл бұрын
wierd one of my local garages had a mint 2002 in for something a few years ago
@neilrafferty20976 жыл бұрын
Lovely
@Omenahillo-yi7kb4 жыл бұрын
i like it
@nikamota6 жыл бұрын
"The steering wheel is all very 2002"...how could he have known! 😆
@79devo6 жыл бұрын
nikamota he’s talking about the BMW 2002, the model that was already in production. Not the year 2002 ...
@hugosalvado86255 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@jasongemmill2355 жыл бұрын
You plonker! The BMW 2002 is what he talking about. Not the year!
@Harrylechat015 жыл бұрын
Nikamota, some people here switch off their irony sensors when they read the comments
@nikamota2 жыл бұрын
@@Harrylechat01 Yeah...I kinda hoped that people would understand it ..most people did....but some? What can you do....
@MANSIKKAPUURO-jl9zm2 жыл бұрын
NICE
@jcb746 жыл бұрын
Love the headrest that's not gonna do jackshit...
@richallen20062 жыл бұрын
Filmed at the car park on Epsom downs.
@asd36f5 жыл бұрын
3:15 - Whatever happened to quarterlights?
@histriamagna10144 жыл бұрын
Cost cutting...sadly.
@RoadCone4116 жыл бұрын
03:23 Don’t you hate it when the seatbelt doesn’t retract?
@SITRUUNAPIRTELO-ov3si4 жыл бұрын
I WISHD ID HAD SOME DAY 2002 AND 1602 AND MK2 ESCORT
@nickbrice84975 жыл бұрын
Back when BMW were reliable
@herrfister14774 жыл бұрын
Laugh. Did you read that on the internet chum?
@nickbrice84974 жыл бұрын
@@herrfister1477 no back when I owned an E30 it never failed, I later had an E90 that Broke Many Ways
@herrfister14774 жыл бұрын
nick brice Ok you’re cute so I believe you.
@herrgolf4 жыл бұрын
My understanding of economic policy is wanting, but why was the pound so strong back when the U.K. still ostensibly wanted to export manufactured goods?
@EggBastion6 жыл бұрын
*! B R O W N !*
@team33834 жыл бұрын
standard issue for GB cars and the customer's prime choice. Metallic brown. Up from the "daring" beige british leyland cars, themselves up from the "Every colour available as long as its black" 60's cars (which is now back in fashion for anything supposedly upmarket ...).
@francistarkenton5455 жыл бұрын
Parts are much more expensive than their British equivalent...and only need replacing a quarter the time as well. 😂 (I’ve had a 2002 and a Mini 1000, trust me I know)
@darrenwilson80424 жыл бұрын
Surely that boot lid has a high load lip that they all moan about Funny how thats a problem with a FIAT or a Ford but not worth a mention on a BMW?
@alunhoskins45133 жыл бұрын
When BMW’s really we’re a bit ‘special’. Nowadays, just good.
@RayEttler6 жыл бұрын
used to own one.... slow and very impractical. a polo has more room inside the passenger compartment. in addition to which it was a gas guzzler. too many disadvantages made it not worth while owning one for me. just mho.
@abc20002koonrsr5 жыл бұрын
You probably drive a vw tiguan now and find it practical, you never deserved to have owned one ,mho
@bens19725 жыл бұрын
Fashionable wheels? 😂
@BanjoLuke13 жыл бұрын
So beautifully dated. This (even the 1602) was an expensive car. BMWs were very rare back then, even in the Gin & Jag Stockbroker Belt. The '02 had srart d as a 1600 and grew to a 2-litre. This model was a last wave as it slipped over the horizon to prepare us for the E21, which began as a 1600 and a 2-litre. I recall at the time how the '02 seemed to date almost overnight after the E21 arrived. Values dipped and then plummeted. They didn't recover until "classic" status was bestowed. When new or newish, the '02 was a nice, comfortable, swift car. Even the 1600. A friend had a Touring, which I recall had a split folding rear seat and a nice carpeted load space. I do not remember seeing those touches in many other cars. A gem of a car and in its day quite a covetable gem.
@lash94006 жыл бұрын
Bogo BMW love it but I wish they had reviewed more of the turbo.
@TheSmurfboard4 жыл бұрын
Maybe not car of the year, but definitely haircut of the year.
@jasejj6 жыл бұрын
The build quality is very good... Yet the chrome trim on the wing was clearly hanging half-off at the start.
@timryan37146 жыл бұрын
I think that the bonnet had been left open so he could lift it on his walkaround.
@Pinzpilot1014 жыл бұрын
Custom Car called him Richard Hudson Terraplane....good old days
@darrenwilson80425 жыл бұрын
Less than two grand for a 1602 ! Nowadays that money would get you a 1602 that you would have to take home in a carrier bag and then reassemble with the other missing 99% of the car that you would have to obtain elsewhere
@gotham613 жыл бұрын
£21,000 in today's money
@richardrichard54092 жыл бұрын
Looks second hand when new
@38foreal5 жыл бұрын
And which British car of that year has upheld its value and desirability today like this Bmw has .. none
@simonbates78415 жыл бұрын
What about a Mk1 Escort RS2000? Worth more than a 1602.
@jakekaywell59724 жыл бұрын
I don't know about that. I'd rather have a Triumph Dolomite Sprint myself.
@theaylesburycyclist87563 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where this was filmed? It looks 'vedy' much like a horse 🐎 racing venue.
@darrenwilson80424 жыл бұрын
Wow no complaints about the high boot lip then? Maybe its only a problem loading luggage over high boot lips in cheaper cars????
@OMENASOSE-gx7of3 жыл бұрын
i would love to paint it
@smhorse5 жыл бұрын
Is that Epsom racecourse?
@danw13744 жыл бұрын
Certainly is :)
@jasongomez53446 жыл бұрын
2:24 "British Leyland's twelve fifteen hundred TC" What the hell is that?
@yeoldegamer51126 жыл бұрын
He said "Triumph fifteen hundred TC"
@HowardLeVert6 жыл бұрын
He actually said "Triumph 1500TC". Hope that helps.
@joebryant57223 жыл бұрын
Nice tidy car
@ColonelMarcellus6 жыл бұрын
The trim on the right side btwn fender and front door doesn't even line up.
@aabmthsk6 жыл бұрын
MarcellusTheGreen hood may have not been locked down. The trim is on the hood. Not the fender. Same goes for the trunk.
@ronmccullock14076 жыл бұрын
Time warp stuff
@godfreypoon51486 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it has a hole in the muffler.
@Trinavara5 жыл бұрын
What did the turbo do 0-60 ?
@gotham613 жыл бұрын
Factory spec was 6.6
@Trinavara3 жыл бұрын
@@gotham61 thanks...
@robertoalvarez35336 жыл бұрын
I wonder where are the British equivalents now?
@bens19725 жыл бұрын
It’s a BMW, so an engine is an extra
@Uzeless5 жыл бұрын
1974.......better times.
@khaledcharafdine20852 ай бұрын
من اروع ما صنعت شركة ب ام دبليو
@georgegeorgakopoulos59564 жыл бұрын
Ha,ha,it took twenty more years for them to offer a model that the rear doesn't scratch the asphalt with 5 people and luggage..
@Pinzpilot1015 жыл бұрын
I still have a couple of spare light, pull type. switches from mine...
@PMGF4 жыл бұрын
0:36 handbrake fail 😁
@SITRUUNAKAKKU-kl3sf3 жыл бұрын
i like it but i hope my model is from 1970-1973
@paulbaumer82105 жыл бұрын
Ahh. Good old 70's car reviews. Save on location costs by taking 'em up north to some deserted, windblown, post-industrial hell hole, and have a permanent sheepskin coat (he looks like he was sewn into it), and long hair to keep your ears warm. Afterwards you could sit with the film crew - who all had names like Colin, Stu and Rory - in their Bedord CF and share a nice thermos of Maxwell House instant coffee and smoke a few lung-busting Players No 6 while talking about football.
@MajorKlanga5 жыл бұрын
That is Epsom Downs in leafy Surrey; I grew up there - couldn't be further from a post industrial hellhole.
@paulbaumer82105 жыл бұрын
@@MajorKlanga Really? I wouldn't know about 'leafy'. Presume you lived in a tent somewhere in that windblown landscape.
@MajorKlanga5 жыл бұрын
@@paulbaumer8210 It's a racecourse.
@paulbaumer82105 жыл бұрын
@@MajorKlanga I believe you. It still looks like the outskirts of Telford on a bad hair day. If I was part of the marketing team BMW I'd be pissed with these guys for this crappy effort.
@Thebustermann3 жыл бұрын
A lovely 1970s car in the requisite shit brown colour.
@rez44055 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the presenter still alive now.
@coalieroller56636 жыл бұрын
those bmws are more likely to survive now compared to those shit made by BL. More expensive parts= more reliable