BMW E39 M5 Rod Bearings: Supplemental DIY

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3 жыл бұрын

This E39Source DIY is meant to be a supplement for replacing the connecting rod bearings on the S62B50 V8 engine. It details how to remove the upper and lower oil pans, hardware, suspension components, front subframe, and piston rod caps. Applicable vehicles: 2000-2003 BMW E39 M5, BMW E52 Z8.
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@ImolaM5
@ImolaM5 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! One thing i’d like to add, today I replaced my rod bearings preventatively and you can actually un bolt the steering box from the subframe and leave it in the car. I removed the pitman arm from the box and left that on the center link which was dropped with the subframe. You can get away with not opening the power steering system at all!
@brugtdouwes2390
@brugtdouwes2390 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, dit it the same way Tom!
@DJAdo80
@DJAdo80 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Perfect advice for those current and prospective e39 M5’s (such as myself).
@yunseongkoo148
@yunseongkoo148 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta say Ryan, your M5 has greatly influenced my taste in pretty much everything- from cars to home decor to the clothes I buy. What amazing work you’ve done on that car!
@E39Source
@E39Source 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you very much!
@mrjpz
@mrjpz 3 жыл бұрын
@John Smith yeah wut still a nice comment though but like wutt.....????
@tivanirudie756
@tivanirudie756 3 жыл бұрын
The best M car ever, 👌🏾 planning on getting myself one
@johntomasik1555
@johntomasik1555 3 ай бұрын
Jeezus if this thing is the best, I'd hate to see their worst.
@phildwesley
@phildwesley 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you still making videos yeeee
@E39Source
@E39Source 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not going anywhere!
@vosedon
@vosedon Жыл бұрын
Well sweet jesus! You went the whole 9 yards! Good work!
@ifan3270
@ifan3270 3 жыл бұрын
Well, if you or someone you know has experience of working on boats in a dry dock setting, ask them about cribbing with wood - a stable, safe, and effective technique to lift objects - given that its done with proper size and good quality wood planks, a LEVEL surface, and center of gravity is accounted for Although yes lift is much easier for this
@Krolik204
@Krolik204 3 жыл бұрын
Great video guys like always !!! I would never put my hands inside the motor 😜 Scared to screw it 😅😅😅
@E39Source
@E39Source 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Denis!
@tivanirudie756
@tivanirudie756 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos @ryan🤝
@borisp9499
@borisp9499 3 жыл бұрын
I am just curious if the valve cover gaskets have been replaced within 5-10k miles prior to the bearing failure. The reason I ask is that with the other 7 rod bearings being OK, I think that this one failed from dirt blocking oil flow, and one way that dirt can get into the engine during a valve cover gasket replacement.
@nathanaeljonesmyfsd
@nathanaeljonesmyfsd 3 жыл бұрын
No, they had not been replaced recently. They were basically plastic when I pulled them.
@TheYster03
@TheYster03 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. What would you recommend be a good interval for prevantative maintenance?
@E39Source
@E39Source 2 жыл бұрын
I think 150k would be a good preventative change. Many engines can run twice as far... but then you're constantly worried about it.
@TheYster03
@TheYster03 2 жыл бұрын
@@E39Source Thank you. People like yourselves is the reason we can keep these beautiful creations on the road.
@sajbig
@sajbig 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan. Can you help. I seem to recall having watched a video you guys made showing the changing of the hoses on the e39 M5 power steering system. I can’t find the video. Is it still up?
@E39Source
@E39Source 3 жыл бұрын
I actually don't think I've done a video on that yet. I'll be sure to next time I do the job!
@jimmyneutron1889
@jimmyneutron1889 3 жыл бұрын
I like M539 Restorations, have you checked them out?
@nathanaeljonesmyfsd
@nathanaeljonesmyfsd 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Their E38 series just wrapped up. A good guy who knows what he's doing, it would seem.
@computiNATEor
@computiNATEor 3 жыл бұрын
2:52 Yes, my bumper is missing a chunk. No, I haven’t fixed it yet 😆
@TOShorts
@TOShorts Жыл бұрын
How long does a rod bearings replacement service take? Just wondering what I should expect from my indy mechanic.
@E39Source
@E39Source Жыл бұрын
The job is roughly two days, depending on how thorough the tech is with cleaning and doing other 'while you're in there' type maintenance. I would expect to be $2,500-$4,000.
@jackprick9797
@jackprick9797 2 жыл бұрын
Can you give more details on the rear main seal issue you had? I am about to do the rod bearing job, engine out, and of course, I plan to replace the rear main seal. Thanks.
@computiNATEor
@computiNATEor 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly do not know why the first RMS didn’t seat. There are steps online that detail roughing up the final flange/journal of the crankshaft ever so slightly to ensure a good seal. What I can say is rather than replace just the seal, replace the whole seal carrier, and the bolts, and the little rubber washers that go under the bolts. Use the paper gasket (comes under the seal carrier in the box). Replace it all with new OEM Genuine BMW stuff.
@jackprick9797
@jackprick9797 2 жыл бұрын
@@computiNATEor hey, thanks for your reply. That’s a good idea. I’m thinking maybe i should not install transmission and start engine by itself to make sure there are no leaks. There is also a coolant passage just above the rear main seal that i am worried about too.
@computiNATEor
@computiNATEor 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackprick9797 Just replace the paper gasket for the coolant passage and clean the mating surfaces - it’s very rare to leak from there. You’ll have to put the transmission on because it holds the crank position sensor and the starter in place 🥲
@RichRotorhead
@RichRotorhead 2 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely not going to be tackling this myself.
@jeancharlesrabaux5658
@jeancharlesrabaux5658 3 жыл бұрын
Ha e39 M5 is soo good cars y love the cars
@MrMurph111
@MrMurph111 3 жыл бұрын
31:00.....The black M5 in the background, whats the story on that? It looks like a car that I almost purchased in Michigan a couple years ago...if i remember it was listed for 8k
@E39Source
@E39Source 3 жыл бұрын
It was a customer car here in San Diego.
@jesussandoval4550
@jesussandoval4550 Жыл бұрын
What bearings and rod bolts did you use? Oem or coated? Oem bolts or ARP? Doing this job since I cracked my upper oil pan and I already going thru the trouble of removing everything
@computiNATEor
@computiNATEor Жыл бұрын
I went with OEM rod bearings, but with a WPC treatment. I used OEM bolts. The S62 doesn't suffer from the same catastrophic rod bearing issues that the S85 and S65 do, so I trust the factory parts. The factory torquing procedure for the OEM bolts is annoying, but nowhere near as bad as the S85, so I went with OEM bolts.
@jesussandoval4550
@jesussandoval4550 Жыл бұрын
@@computiNATEor thank you for the reply that was fast haha I think ima go with oem too the car just crossed 100k so I don’t think they should be bad but I’m already there I might as well do it.
@computiNATEor
@computiNATEor Жыл бұрын
@@jesussandoval4550 Yeah, you’ll be fine. I think mine failed for a few reasons, not the least of which was running too hard while cold. I’d run a 5w50 or 10w60 oil, and you’ll be golden.
@jesussandoval4550
@jesussandoval4550 Жыл бұрын
@@computiNATEor thanks again
@willt718
@willt718 3 жыл бұрын
my s62 has the tut tut tut on idle but no rattle on throttle. is it beginning to circle the drain? 😲
@nathanaeljonesmyfsd
@nathanaeljonesmyfsd 3 жыл бұрын
There's a noticeable clatter from the VANOS units. at idle, that's normal. But if you can hear it from under the car, then I'd do the rod bearings ASAP.
@mu6554
@mu6554 3 жыл бұрын
Curious. What will happen if you were to put bearings with that previous crank (the one with some scoring/high tolerance)?
@computiNATEor
@computiNATEor 3 жыл бұрын
For a little while, nothing. But without a smooth surface to ride on, the oil flow won’t be maintained, and the bearings will touch the crank more often, heat up, seize, and it’ll be worse than the first time. It might last a minute; it might last a month.
@ronejr766
@ronejr766 3 жыл бұрын
Good video.... but gives me anxiety. Lol. I’m at 135,000 miles and have the job in the back of my mind.
@computiNATEor
@computiNATEor 3 жыл бұрын
Plan to do it at 150k. It's worth the peace of mind, and saves your wallet.
@rubenmireles5545
@rubenmireles5545 Жыл бұрын
Is the shop still open?
@E39Source
@E39Source Жыл бұрын
Yes sir! www.e39source.com
@jeancharlesrabaux5658
@jeancharlesrabaux5658 3 жыл бұрын
Please for sale the bmw e39 M5 please
@nathanaeljonesmyfsd
@nathanaeljonesmyfsd 3 жыл бұрын
28:23 LMAO 🤣
@catirecortes7892
@catirecortes7892 Жыл бұрын
I grindge with it, a very scary nightmare 🤦‍♀️
@Markjw25
@Markjw25 3 жыл бұрын
Quick heads up for those who don't know. Newtis.info free website has been shutdown by BMW about a month ago. Your only option is to either pay BMW directly for access or search for any downloads of it online.
@E39Source
@E39Source 3 жыл бұрын
It is well worth whatever it costs!
@mrjpz
@mrjpz 3 жыл бұрын
@@E39Source $30 a day? $250 a month? $2500 a year? not for DIYers seems like it's only made for shops or wealthy DIYers but if you're a wealthy DIYer just take it to a shop
@raymondsoler5245
@raymondsoler5245 Жыл бұрын
I have 202k on my 2000 M5 with I presume original rod bearings and I am so scared this will rear its ugly head someday soon! My car drives incredibly fantastic but I'm living on borrowed time.
@E39Source
@E39Source Жыл бұрын
Around 200,000 miles you should consider and start budgeting for rod bearings and timing chains/guides if you want to keep the car longer. Those are the two 'weak points' that should be addressed every 2 decades.
@Silver-Lining1111
@Silver-Lining1111 3 жыл бұрын
Cars like the e39 M5 or the RS4 V8 Manual are made for Real Car Enthusiast.
@francispowell1811
@francispowell1811 2 жыл бұрын
Why rev it though?
@computiNATEor
@computiNATEor 2 жыл бұрын
Because I had never heard rod knock before, so I didn't know what I was hearing. I didn't know if it was rod knock or timing guide issues.
@francispowell1811
@francispowell1811 Жыл бұрын
@@computiNATEor Nate, could this not have been reground (machined) and fitted with oversized conrods?
@computiNATEor
@computiNATEor Жыл бұрын
@@francispowell1811No. The crankshaft journal was egg-shaped, so it was far more cost effective to just replace it.
@francispowell1811
@francispowell1811 Жыл бұрын
@@computiNATEor got you. thanks!
@patricksweeney9184
@patricksweeney9184 3 жыл бұрын
Note: newTIS is no more
@E39Source
@E39Source 3 жыл бұрын
It's a subscription service now, and worth what it costs.
@vrsmartin2981
@vrsmartin2981 8 күн бұрын
No wonder the crank was fooked. Soon as you hear that noise you stop reving it and switch it off. That made me cringe
@ANDYW031084
@ANDYW031084 2 жыл бұрын
This engine is so easy to Rebuilt but Cost lots of money :(
@computiNATEor
@computiNATEor 2 жыл бұрын
Mm, I don't know that I'd call it easy. Needs special tooling and you have to be intimately familiar with the VANOS system.
@johntomasik1555
@johntomasik1555 3 ай бұрын
If the BMW engineers were smart, they would've designed these bearings to last more than 100k miles. I've owned my E39 for about 7 years. Put all of 20K miles on it. Gotta say this car is a nightmare.
@E39Source
@E39Source 3 ай бұрын
These S62 bearings are a solid 150-200k mile bearing if any attempts are made to care for the engine (oil service intervals, driving style). The next generation M5 suffered from poor bearings- they generally require replacement by 70,000 miles or so.
@johntomasik1555
@johntomasik1555 3 ай бұрын
@rce Welp, pretty sure I had one go. Changed the oil every 5k with Castrol Edge TWS 10-60 recommended oil. Lightly/Moderately driven. I think I took it to redline once in the past 25K miles. The car never saw the rain or snow, even. Started hearing a slight knock the time I ran it before it failed. Started it up, still heard the knock, then one loud knock and it locked solid. I am able to rotate the engine, although I haven't moved it far...but the crank moves. In the process of taking it apart. Would like to drop the oil pan, but it's pretty much a removal of the entire front suspension...and, quite frankly, I'm getting tired of fixing something every 5k miles I drive this thing.
@E39Source
@E39Source 3 ай бұрын
I'm sorry to hear this. Perhaps previous owners were not so kind to the car? We just changed some preventatively on a 2000 M5 with 201k and the bearing wear wasn't bad at all. Oil pan removal is a pain since the entire subframe must be removed.@@johntomasik1555
@johntomasik1555
@johntomasik1555 3 ай бұрын
@@E39Source It's possible, but it sure is in amazing condition if they abused it. It had thorough maintenance records (including all oil changes logged{, looks almost showroom condition, and it had only Dinan installed mods (just the exhaust and intake). Since I got it, the VANOS system had to be rebuilt, its software disabled starting it,, a cam sensor had to be replaced, the rear window actuator died, the fuel gauge failed, and the nav system quit. Now this. But, keep telling me how great these things are. Heck, I could build a pickup truck that could outperform it for far less money than the previous owner paid for it.
@jeremiahex
@jeremiahex Жыл бұрын
Rod bearing failure on the E39 M5… this doesn’t make the headlines; only the high-revving, F1 inspired S85 V10 gets the hate!
@E39Source
@E39Source Жыл бұрын
The difference is, the V10 WILL need rod bearing replacement by 75,000 miles in all cases. S62 rod bearing failure is significantly more rare, and almost never below 150,000 miles.
@jeremiahex
@jeremiahex Жыл бұрын
@@E39Source the S85 is a legit Race Engine. The S62… Not.
@E39Source
@E39Source Жыл бұрын
@@jeremiahex The S85 was born to race, absolutely. The S62 was just an improved M62, but it has plenty of race-tech itself. Having owned both for over 10 years now, I personally believe the S62 is far and away the superior engine. It offers better power delivery (wider and more usable power band), plus significantly greater reliability and serviceability. But it doesn't have that 7,000RPM push, and there lies the case to own them both!
@jeremiahex
@jeremiahex Жыл бұрын
@@E39Source you can not compare an apple (E39 M5), with a dragon fruit (E60 M5). Both very different machines. I use to own a 01 E39 M5 years ago, great machine. But E60 M5 is on another level, friend. I own 2 E60 M5s, silver and sepan bronze. A special machine. Both have been very reliable! I want to visit your shop. I have a challenge for you. I want to convert my bronze E60 to manual, not a swap, for the SMG trans is actually a manual. I want to remove the hydraulic shifting system, and place on top a manual shifting system. That’s the challenge. A custom made shifting mechanism that would replace the SMG. I know, the shifting pattern is unconventional. But that’s alright, I’m a commercial truck driver, our shifts are unconventional.
@E39Source
@E39Source Жыл бұрын
@@jeremiahex I will agree that the S85 E60 M5 is much more 'special' compared to its counterparts. I've never offered a conversion of the SMG-III to manual because of the shift pattern. Could it be done, sure, though I would be very hesitant to attempt the conversion that way.
@jimmyneutron1889
@jimmyneutron1889 3 жыл бұрын
Hi cheeseburger nate
@rheinamacher1990
@rheinamacher1990 Жыл бұрын
Ryan, would you consider doing a S62 swap into an E38 engine bay?
@E39Source
@E39Source Жыл бұрын
Yes, but I think simply buying an M5 is a better way to experience the S62.
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