Did I interrupt OJ too much?? Ya, I did so here is part 2. Enjoy!! bit.ly/2XUMBMS

Dude you need to back off and let you guest talk and not continue to talk over him.

dude give the guy some time to speak you cut him off sooooooooo frickin much

Video seemed less about "Which M car I should buy" than "Why I bought the E55 and think it's the most reliable car and let's bring up some M cars and we'll refer everything back to why the E55 is reliable."

My favorite parts of this video is when you ask your friend a question, but you keep talking 😂

I made it half way through this painful video. The host has no listening skills whatsoever. Why have a guest when all you really want is to hear your own voice? Check your ego buddy. I'm gone.

I never would have believed 45 minutes of 2 guys talking about 2 cars could be so good.

You know you’re a car nerd when you watch two guys sit and talk about vanos, 722.6, amg and //M for 45 minutes straight. Only M car I owned was an e34 M5. That straight 6 was amazing, but the car broke my heart and wallet. First Mercedes I owned, years later, was an E50 with the M119. I’m on my 6th W210 now.

Hey Alex. I have had 6 BMWs, up to 2003 e39, most v8s, no M cars. Then I switched to Mercedes. I hear what this guy is saying...they do "feel" different, more connected to the road. Overall, the Mercedes have been WAY more reliable, currently (2) w211, (1) w210 and (2) w203 in the family.

You are fine Alex, everyone has their own preferences for a number of reasons. I started paying attention to the 4.2 V8 in the 90's in the Audi 200. Been working on Mercedes, Jaguar, Fiat, Renault, and stuff most U.S. techs don't work on. Keep up the great channel, and kudos to your guest!!

OMG, please stop interrupting your guest :). Bad ratio of guest vs host talk. Great topic.

Dude, you keep cutting him off haha.

LSC is the Scotty Kilmer of Mercedes. And I'm not saying that in any negative manner, in fact I respect both. I simply find it funny how in love LSC is with the E55 chassis, such as Scotty is obsessed with Toyota/Lexus.

This was great, I'm a M113K disciple but love hearing the inside story on other cars/makes/models. Mad respect to BMW, I love driving my brothers 330 ZHP, very different driving experience. Handles so well and the I6 sounds great when you get it high in the revs.......but then I get back into my CLS55 and the torque takes me away to happy land along with the unholy exhaust note. This should be a monthly episode. Nice job fellas!

Thanks for another awesome video Alex (and OJ)! I, and apparently all of your viewers, really appreciate this kind of video. It's really great to hear two well-steeped mechanics from both fields trade insight into two platforms with so much history. My whole reason for loving the Mercedes AMG platform is because I know I'm never going to a track and I'm not fond of tickets. I can get on it when the coast is clear and dodge the occasional pot hole or tree branch in the road. I use my car every day and realize that I really don't need super car handling to get to work and back. I'm on my second E-Beast (an 2007 and a 2010) and I have nothing but respect and love for them. I ran the vins pre-purchase and made sure they were both the revised versions of the two platforms. Aside from the worthless panoramic sunroofs I've never done anything but change the fluids. I bought both of them with around 40,000 miles and put around 60,000 miles on them. The sunroofs have plastic clips that get brittle from heat cycling. They fail and release the wound spring tension causing the sun shade to slam open permanently. Those clips and are $3 and cost $900 per panel ($1800 if you do them one at a time) to replace. I've replaced them on both cars. I'm starting to get the itch for a newer car and I'm strongly considering the 2012 for it's newer twin turbo platform. From what I can discern, it's only a tune and some exhaust cutouts away from from being a monster. It's the first (guinea pig) year of the setup. What do you know or what have you heard about the twin-turbo setup? I'm sorry if you've addressed this before. I follow your channel very closely but I can't ever seem to find the time to get through all of the comments to see if that's been a topic of discussion.

I had 2 W202 C43 AMGs. One had close to 300K miles from driving up & down Cali before I sold it to some high school kid. He’s still driving it. I had an S55 engine transplanted on it & it was a beast. Still have another with close to 200K miles.

Note that the E60 M5 came out while BMW was running a V10 in F1. T’was marketing related.

Never been in an E55 but I've had the opportunity to ride in a few E60 M5's and an E63 M6. What your friend said about the feeling of the car is 100% true. When the car gets going it something I find hard to put into words. The screaming V10 motor, the torque (people call this car a torqueless wonder but I still VIOLENTLY slammed me back in my seat), the styling has aged incredibly well (early mercedes did not but that's my own opinion), the active bolsters that hug you when you go into the M mode, the fact that it has 2 horsepower modes (400hp vs 507hp), and so many more things. It's easy to say it isn't worth it when you've never had the opportunity to ride or drive in one, but you should really try it. I haven't gotten my E60 yet but that is the main goal I am currently working towards as a student. I'm ashamed to say i've probably spent more time looking at for sale listings and m5board.com then my studies lol, but the more I learn about the car (whether it be maintenance or otherwise), I love the car more. It's the car that got me into ///M's and can't wait to get it. E55 AMG is an interesting car that i've never paid attention to but I will definitely give it another look now.

The guy looks like a real pro. Nice to have him on the channel Alex. Thank you!

First time seeing one of your videos. The two of you really kept the flow going. Consider doing a podcast together because the back and forth between you two works. Listened to the entire video fully engrossed. Luckily I recorded the match Barcellona Vs. Sevilla because you made me miss the 1st half. Keep up the good work. Subscribed.

Alex,your buddy here,Baldadonis..As a BMW enthusiast owning 23..yes..23 BWM products(6 Mini Cooper S JCW included) Too many problems with BMWs unless you buy the right car off a great owner that invested his money doing all the major known issues..Thats why i watched your channel and bought my 2002 E55 AMG! Less issues..With that said IMO...OLDER M3 E36(I had a 2000 M Roadster..awesome little car,i bought it to flip it so keep miles to a minimum..I would not buy a M5 ! Even the e39 M5 is sketchy ..but live and learn ..you will love driving any M car for sure,i love them..but i know the issues so i make sure most are taken care of before buying ..sounds like your going to buy a M car,i see whats happening here,lol. Few cars that i owned.. 1974 2002 TII(fuel injected) 2001 M3 Cabriolet/6 speed..i would not buy another..ever..cooling system/every gasket leaks/sub frame issue/connecting rod issues are a few issues 2000 m528 M Sport 230000 miles..good car with usually BMW maintenance 1998 540 Sport/6 speed ..nothing but headache but loved driving it! 2009 135i Convertible M Sport 6 speed ..better then e46 M3,All day long and faster! But as they aged ,too many issues w N54 motor! Classic E30s ..1991 318is/5 speed ..loved it..1988 325es sport ,loved it 2012 535I Xdrive M Sport ,loved it(Dealer buy back..for soft rims cracking!) I loved that car! Several E46s (to flip) Currently daily driver stock 2014 X1 35IxDrive Currently second car 2002 E55 AMG. AMG IS MORE RELIABLE VS BMW M cars! If my E55 was 6 speed...things would be interesting..BMW is like dating a hot chick that you show off and throw all your money away only for them to break up with you...lol

Loved the discussion, knowledge is power! Having said that, I was drawn to your MB content when I first stumbled across your channel, I'm not much interested in BMW content. Also, was it just me or was OJ avoiding basic preventative maintenance questions? Love the channel, your content and delivery, keep it up.

Love your channel. I’m an AMG guy through and through. The E55 is a monster and I love mine more than anything - never ceases to make me grin ear to ear. That being said, I’d love to own an E60 M5. A lot of the work I’ve done on my E55 came from watching your videos. It would be awesome to watch you rebuild an M5; it might calm my fears and learn some more complicated DIY on the V10.

Alex, thanks so much for doing this video, it was spot on for me as I have owned both BMW and Mercedes. You guys hit on all the salient points between the two. You have to drive the BMW M car to understand what OJ is saying...its the road feel with the BMW, but it comes at a price! This is a brilliant video! Well done.

So much knowledge. Great video, GREAT channel. Keep it up Alex 💪

Bring back OJ and have another talk about the mid-range offerings from BMW and Mercedes. These would be turbo 6s and V8s from both that sit right below the M and AMG tiers, and offer seemingly great bang for buck when it comes to mods and tunes. N63 vs M278, and BMWs B58 vs whatever is in the new C400/E400/CLS400.

I really enjoyed that conversation. Some great info to take on board. Cheers!

Please keep bashing the M cars. This would keep the value of M cars down.. Meanwhile, I am saving up for one.. Thanks!!!

I've wanted an M5 for 20 years. Every time that urge gets too strong, I watch a video about rod bearings and I go back to my CLS55, as flawed as she is, and I lover her all the more.

love your videos alex, and that bmw guy is top notch, i like him a lot greetings from austria

Awesome video! it feels like the ultimate battle for car enthusiasts bang for buck vs feeling & passion

What a great vdo! do more of these please! love hearing about the cars that you worked on at the dealerships

Great conversation with a ton of valid points brought up. I think the Lexus IS-F would be a great addition to consider in the comparison. Over 400hp and reliability that beats both.

I hope this guy learns how to interview. His other vids are quite informative.

very informative! Keep the info coming

Awesome content....car nerd approved 👍

Bro! You talk TOO MUCH! You invited this guy to talk and you keep interrupting him and talking over him. Let him finish answering your question... there were so many things I wanted to hear from him and you kept taking him off track.

Distronic came out in 1998 with the w220 in Europe

Really like this, both the format and content!

This was amazing! Please have more with O.J. on other cars. Love the knowledge

This was too much fun!

You made me so proud of my c43 throughout this video haha 😊

Amazing video, this was a joy to watch and listen to, hope we'll get more of these videos.

I have an E60 M5 and I absolutely love it. I purchased it in 2012 as a CPO and have put about 50k miles on it. I have gone through a clutch, flywheel, smg pump alternator batteries. Like he says if you want to play you have to pay that’s a true statement for the M5 but it’s worth it in my opinion for the amount of fun the car is to drive!

E39 M5. Case closed...it has 400hp, balanced and is reliable.

This is exactly why I ended up buying a Lexus with a 2jz in it

Before my E55, I owned a 99' BMW E39 540i which was a great car. I loved it, so advanced even by modern standards, like the E55, and and it drove brilliantly. The E39 M5 would be a great thing to play with. I have also driven an original 335i, and that thing was turbine smooth and had a lot of upside mods wise.

Love the new style video, And great to go in a different direction away from Mercedes out of your comfort zone.. Great work, By far the best on KZfaq!

This is quickly becoming one of my favourite KZfaq channels. Keep it up👍

Man mercs until 2004 were like actually reliable

Great video! I loved every second of this conversation!

love hearing this conversation. I purchased a '93 BMW E31 (M70) over a decade ago because it is a V12 and very nice style, but has been sitting in the garage for many years now (know it isn't an M) and I purchased a SL55 (M113k) about 5 years ago and I LOVE it (she has been altered). Know there is a huge age difference, but friends that have purchased the newer BMWs have sold them.

Nice, I have O.J's number in my contacts, think I bought something for my supra there. FMU is awesome though!

As a bmw guy. For 20k now the best choice is an n54. The engine can handle 600whp with no issue with big boy mods. The auto trans on them can also handle dumb horsepower depending how often you launch them. The n54 is NOT an M car it's in the 335 from 07-10 and in the 335is from 11-13(in some 535 cars too) everything 2010 and after is pretty reliable.

I looked into a 335D and E320CDI before deciding on an ‘06 CDI. ‘Must admit-those compound turbos in the BMW lite instantaneously. My wife’s head snapped against the head rest with a distinct whack when I punched it. Yes-I was told to slow down immediately. ‘Just waiting on Alex to finish his build and copy his improvements. Great video gents!

New sub here. Have t had my M3 that long, and live in cold climate Canada so winter driving is a no. I’m very nervous about the vanos and rod bearing aspects so far no issue. As for the driving experience. FYI I’ve had many cars, the E92 M3 all I can say is exquisite on wheels. The balance, the endless redline, it’s smiles every every time! Option a tune Ess offers supercharger packages

Traded my 2006 M5 for a 2014 E63 wagon 18 months ago. Miss it every day!. I put 50k miles on it with just a oil cooler and alternator. Got rid of it at 99k for fear of rod bearing failure, vanish problems and oil pump replacement. The E63 is a rocket and gave me peace of mind but it handles like crap in comparison. The all wheel drive makes it rather boring too. The BMW was like driving a scalpel reminiscent of my 2001 clown shoe MZ3.

I love my 09 n54 335is bmw 5 years strong still making 655hp and 640tq at 178,560 miles

Didn’t skip a single second of this video, super interesting, always been an AMG guy personally, but now i have some respect for M cars

Bro I’m a Mercedes Elite graduate as well. Then a master tech at silver star and. Had a life changing motocross accident and now 18 years later on your channel brings me back to 120 v12 head gaskets that I cannot forget. Lol. I love your video

I re\lly enjoy the driving feel of BMW. I find them more sporty in daily driving, and I'm not even talking M cars. I've owned Mercedes, and I've enjoyed them, but I found them sluggish in comparison. To be fair, the Mercedes weren't AMG either. The only time I drove an AMG was when I was car-shopping last fall, and tried a new C63. You might consider a non-M BMW? A 335i is a pretty good base to start from

Mercedes feels disconnected from the road. The Beemer rides like its on rails, the V10 sound gives you butterflies. People who never have driven an M5 are always speculating about how can it be so good. Drive one and quit speculating.This guy wants to modify his car and have a reliable machine?

Oj is the best! Great guy I still remember his Mom’s down stream turbocharged Infiniti M45 and the first shop off wolfs crossing!

Love the video you guys did a great job. I guess I still want a s55 amg.

Man, you keep adding quality content to your channel. Was wondering the same thing! Should I check out a M? My take: Don't do it :-(

Good video. I just had them do a service on my Maserati. There are other cars out there beyond MB and BMW if you are looking for good bang for the buck. My Infiniti M56 comes to mind. 5.6l NA VA great HP and Torque rear wheel steering and you can find them well under 20k. Plus they are very reliable. Would be great to see content outside of the usual suspects. But I'm sure it won't bring in the viewers...

This was informative. As I’m currently in the market for an e46 m3, seeing one focused on the e46 as opposed to the e60 would be amazing. I’m sure the BMW tech could provide a lot of valuable info.

Never had an M Car, but have had three BMWs over the years. Two 135is (08 and 12), and an E39 540i. The 540i was my favorite car that I have ever owned, and I currently own an 07 Cayman S and an 06 E55 Kombi. The 540i just had a brilliant combination of power, chassis grace, and long distance comfort. It was equally at home on a long distance highway cruise, or barnstorming a back road. It just felt perfectly proportioned , and it even got pretty decent gas mileage considering it's size and power levels. I ran it to 171,000 miles and unfortunately ran into tin worm living in the north east, but if you can find a well maintained example, they are brilliant cars. I would highly recommend the E39 M5 The 135is were fun with a couple suspension tweeks, but in both cases they had major maintenance problems. The 2012 in particular had a litany of issues related to the direct injection system, and I always disliked the Valvtronic system's affect on power delivery. I do really like my Cayman S, but it's more of a toy than a real car. The E55 is new to me, and I do really like it overall, but the servo braking system is a real annoyance. The brake pedal buzzes under my foot annoyingly every 2 minutes or so. It also started making a really loud power steering whine about 2 days after I bought it, so that hasn't endeared it to me so much, but it might change once I chase the problem down and fix it.

I’m a bmw m guy 10 plus years now in them and I am a regular viewer so we are out there! I’ll admit I’ve been eyeing an e55 for some time now tho.

Oj look like the owner of dap Vw Audi group shop lol

OJ I have a new 2019 AMG G63 I have many electrical issues such as oil indicator is broken, fuel tank is indicating always empty tank when it’s full, I’m assuming it’s something to do with the recoding issues. in your opinion who is the most reliable Amg technician in Midwest for cars with warranty.???

We need more of this guy. He knows his stuff!

E39 M5 is like the most reliable overall or E90 M3, no rear subframe issues, blown headgaskets or failing transmissions

Steve Dinan explained the BMW e46 and e92 bearing issue solution was not clearance related but the actual bearing composition

That was fun to watch guys! Thanks for posting it up! I have to say that after watching, The next time I hear how unreliable my RX8 is, I will laugh.

I owned a 2008 m5 6mt a couple of years ago , I did do rod bearings on the car at around 200,000km (Canada) I paid about $2,400 at an independent.. I switched to 0w50 after the bearing install ...the car was driven very hard and I actually had no huge issues with it .. I put headers on it and a custom exhaust from a local exhaust shop , a local tuner Dyno tuned it for me it ended up making 580whp on a mustang Dyno and 94 octane. I sold it at 300,000km still running great actually . I know I was lucky but I wouldn't hesitate to buy another. I just sold it to afford a house upgrade and now I have an e92 335i single turbo conversion which I absolutely love

I had (9) E36 M3s. They were durable and fixable for a 40yo guy. By the time I wanted an E46 M3, the problems were past my physical capability to fix by a regular guy with a nice garage and nice tools and plenty of time. I wanted an E46 M3 but they are just too much work. If you look past the E46 M3, I would have to spend $50k for something new enough with a warranty to fix all the oil leaks. I’ll probably switch to an electric car for more torque and no maintenance in the future.

Get an E90... 9000 rpm v8. That would be cool

Great video. Really learned alot about the m cars watching this.

nice video. so what's more reliable then, cheaper to fix, last longer, the new G80 M3 competition or a new E63S AMG, any thoughts??

AMGs are more reliable and affordable. My brother has an E46 M3 and has spent the same on it in 1 year compared to 3 years for my E55 AMG. I also drove way more miles.

Only BMW I would get is the E39.

I have a 09 s550 4matic , what can I do to it , or in your opinion best facelifts and tunes. Would appreciate your input

Discovered this channel with this episode. Subbed.

21:30 - 22:30 THIS is exactly the way to enter into purchasing a used German car.

Love the content, no one makes videos like this

Hey i noticed you were talking positively about the m113 but hows the reliability of the m112 ? and how much do you know about those cars as far as diagnostics go ? I have a chrysler crossfire with a n/a m112 6 speed manual and i'm experiencing some issues with my abs / esp system, continuously malfunctioning, the car drives perfectly fine but speedometer won't work and i've replaced the abd module already with no success. Some one told me it could be the rcm but swapped that and then i was told it could be the yaw sensor. just trynna get some guidance as to what to do to fix this issue. I know your time and knowledge is a valued asset and i won't mind compensating you for it. I'll be doing the work on the car myself because local mechanics keep trying to finesse me into paying thousands of dollars to fix this issue and ik its not that expensive of a job (at least for me to tackle myself).

Really great video. It’s like I’ve been sitting with a couple of good friends just talking passionately about cars - it’s kinda like therapy. I owned an old 90’s AMG, it was the best and worst car. Engine and transmission was bulletproof, electrics weren’t that good but mostly it was a terrible rust bucket. Would love to own another one though!

I like the 2003 BMW 540I SPORT My Mercedes of choice is the" HAMMER " W124

8:35 I gave it a try. The nervous laugh makes this a difficult watch. The guy on the left was giving good information. The other guy, ehhh, could've been a robot. Now, with that being said, was I to critical?

Should I remap my e320cdi 2003 89k miles? Or can it put to much strain on my engine/trans.?

Is there any way you can see if the engine is good? Is there an X-ray device or something like that? you can never find out how the engine looks like inside right? only by taking it apart?

I feel like the M156's are hit or miss. I've got 165,xxx miles on my M156 W212 with very few issues in my 3+ years of owning it. I'll admit i just started developing a camshaft adjuster noise every once in a while, but other than that, regular maintenance and the valve body conductor plate was changed. Meanwhile i hear horror stories with

Learned a ton, but definitely affirmed my love for Mercedes Benz.

at 30:00 you mention customers complain about a supercharger noise on their M113 engine. I have this supercharger noise it's driving me nuts, what is it? a/c bearing?

hi, any suggestion for me to modify my E500 to add much more horse power? please and thanks.

AMG all the time and the M113k its a beast specially when you weistec internal and weistc supercharge

First of all, amazing video, loved the conversation from two guys who have such a vast knowledge of both AMG and M cars. Ok, I’ve driven both an E55 AMG, and own a E63 M6 (6speed Manual), you ask a few times “what am I gaining” and at the end of the day an E55 is reliable like a SBC as you say and it also drives, feels and sounds like a small block V8, there is no other feeling than spinning a V10 at 8,000 rpm, it’s not about reliability, you say you want it all, but I’m sorry your Mercedes will never feel like that S85. Great video and you guys touch on everything and I really enjoyed hearing you guys talking on these cars, although these are direct competition vehicles it really is apples to oranges in my opinion. But yes, I’m a BMW guy, and I’ve followed your channel for a long time, you do great content, keep it up.

I have a question very good discussion what about Amsoil 0 20 what I use in my cars and sometimes I use Amsoil 5/30 I have had M cars Alpina cars and when I lived in Europe other models to and car brands to also like Benz I'm thinking about in a AMG touring I would like to have the M5 and AMG touring but the problems are keeping me away I've been driving German since 84 I have had other performance cars but this is about BMW and Mercedes do you have an answer for me about the oil

I’ve owned both, and have both brands right now, but love the BMWs.