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@francishughes3017
@francishughes3017 Жыл бұрын
I'm late to the party (as always), but what an awesome reviewer Michael is. No stupid gurning KZfaq thumbnails, no 10mins of puff followed by 30seconds of actual content, just a clever, experienced, articulate professional, telling a viewer all the things they wanted to know. Superb. 👏
@DirceuCorsetti
@DirceuCorsetti 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best reviews out there. Proper mileage and seat time.
@maacdesmond
@maacdesmond 4 жыл бұрын
how much kms or miles plz
@bruderrudiger9574
@bruderrudiger9574 4 жыл бұрын
@@maacdesmond 145k miles
@bustamove4900
@bustamove4900 2 жыл бұрын
For sure.
@steve-wu7jp
@steve-wu7jp 4 жыл бұрын
I have been watching Neeves for years and he is the best in the business anywhere. 😀🍻
@Lar308
@Lar308 Жыл бұрын
I bought my new M package in January 2021. About 7,500km up on it now. The bike has been flawless and such a pleasure to own. I have six bikes including a 2021 Ducati Monster plus and a 2022 Ducati V2 Bayliss edition and I still regard my BMW as my favourite bike in my fleet.
@chrisd2415
@chrisd2415 4 жыл бұрын
Great honest review, I had a deposit on an Msport but was messed around so much by BMW I cancelled and bought a 2018 R1M, bearing in mind that we all put deposits down without even riding the thing, imagine my trepidation when I eventually got to ride one, well I can hand on heart say I had no feeling of regret whatsoever! Yes it was a bit quicker than the Yamaha in a straight line but it didn’t feel as fun, didn’t have the character or the soul. And it certainly didn’t have the giggle factor that the R1 has, and the big thing is it didn’t make me feel special when I was riding it and certainly doesn’t make you turn round for one last glance as you walk away from it. It was a bit to clinical and German for my liking. Before the R1M I had a HP4 Carbon for three years, that felt more special than the new S1KRR.
@Yamaprilia
@Yamaprilia 4 жыл бұрын
I agree the r1 feels more fun to ride.
@chronicmayne2256
@chronicmayne2256 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I had a deposit on this that BMW never gave back and I had to dispute it with Amex. Ended up getting a 19 Panigale V4 and it's legit! Glad I didn't go for the BMW honestly.
@Showmetheevidence-
@Showmetheevidence- 4 жыл бұрын
Surprise BMW was so bad. That R1 is special though!
@michaelsmith3017
@michaelsmith3017 4 жыл бұрын
Good pick r1 ,because bmw needs balls
@Kurlach
@Kurlach 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you got the bike you wanted 👍 Love my M Sport personally and I was lucky to have a great dealer
@mosca3289
@mosca3289 4 жыл бұрын
Best reviewer out there 👍🏻
@exnihilo415
@exnihilo415 4 жыл бұрын
Cracking review. You're my favorite moto journo, hands down.
@brucekendall52
@brucekendall52 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis in slightly different presentation.Thks.
@johnswanson6790
@johnswanson6790 4 жыл бұрын
The most thorough and knowledgeable reviewer at the moment - Thank you Micheal!
@rogase68
@rogase68 4 жыл бұрын
Good perspective. I’ve owned mine for 4 mths and I agree with its road credentials. It’s the sort of bike that feels better the harder you push it. Problem is that is always waaay above speed limits. It’s stressful because you need to push it to enjoy but then stressing a cop is about to put a radar on you and your license is about to get torched. If you own it you need to stretch its legs at the track. Otherwise i think it is very versatile. With the standard suspension you can go from a sporty road setup to a very stiff track platform all within the current system.
@richbrett7268
@richbrett7268 Жыл бұрын
Hi yes i sold my MV F3 800 for that very reason -- now i find myself looking at s1000r's etc . funny thing is i came by a 2003 rsv which every time i go out on it i come back feeling better than i did on the MV ( the MV made you feel like you always could have and should have ridden it faster through a set of bends - which i thought was a bad mind set) I brought an indian FTR which is fun in many ways ( good engine but not a playful as feels to sit on as its long and heavy) but i think i will sell it in another year. i love my BMW R9T scrambler and a Husky Nuda. after 3 years what are your thoughts on the BMW rr.? cheers
@hnic72
@hnic72 4 жыл бұрын
Broken down to molecules.. Sick format
@rzu7120
@rzu7120 4 жыл бұрын
The RSV4 also has cruise control.
@pantarhei7335
@pantarhei7335 4 жыл бұрын
That's a cool way to do this Btw. something I always missed on tests is that reviewers seldom tell us their height.
@Madmotodad
@Madmotodad 4 жыл бұрын
I think he's 6' 2''
@alec-s
@alec-s 4 жыл бұрын
@@Madmotodad i think more 5'8"
@pablopicasso169
@pablopicasso169 4 жыл бұрын
I think more 5' 7"
@tantiwahopak101
@tantiwahopak101 4 жыл бұрын
@@pablopicasso169 I think 5 feet
@sk2283
@sk2283 4 жыл бұрын
Really like the fast paced bullet point review, that works well ! also like the honesty, 9K miles is probably 18 months riding for me so its a really good length of time / mileage to be honest about the bikes feel & performance. One question though ..... does it feel 'special' ? for £20K its not just about performance and power and speed .... it needs to feel special.
@bikersquest
@bikersquest 4 жыл бұрын
11:18 Basically no, not compared to competition
@chrisd2415
@chrisd2415 4 жыл бұрын
I had a deposit on an Msport but was messed around so much by BMW I cancelled and bought a 2018 R1M, bearing in mind that we all put deposits down without even riding the thing, imagine my trepidation when I eventually got to ride one, well I can hand on heart say I had no feeling of regret whatsoever! Yes it was a bit quicker than the Yamaha in a straight line but it didn’t feel as fun, didn’t have the character or the soul. And it certainly didn’t have the giggle factor that the R1 has, and the big thing is it didn’t make me feel special when I was riding it and certainly doesn’t make you turn round for one last glance as you walk away from it. It was a bit to clinical and German for my liking. Before the R1M I had a HP4 Carbon for three years, that felt more special than the new S1KRR.
@justa_dude
@justa_dude 4 жыл бұрын
Great review, I ride mine daily its a great every day bike. My commute is 50+ miles a day
@Tebaz8584
@Tebaz8584 4 жыл бұрын
That Guy There whoa thats a haul for everyday commute hope the roads a tad bit twisty
@jellethegreatest
@jellethegreatest 4 жыл бұрын
If you are in good shape there is nothing wrong commuting on a sports bike. One day a s1000rr will be in my garage...
@QJHKI
@QJHKI 4 жыл бұрын
@@jellethegreatest why is being in a good shape matters?
@relate97
@relate97 4 жыл бұрын
Almer Reyhan if you are not athletic and in good shape 1. You will have a sore back in less than a hour of cruising 2. Won’t get the full potential of the bike in turns if you are a huge guy no offense
@kw1213
@kw1213 4 жыл бұрын
@@relate97 Even if you are athletic it will hurt your back. Let's just be honest guys, if you aren't riding on track on a REGULAR basis , then buying a supersport type of bike is frankly stupid. The only reason you can logically defend it is for the looks of the bike and that's it. A naked type bike is superior in every, single, way, for the great majority of riders.
@afandou1966
@afandou1966 2 жыл бұрын
Neeves is the gold standard of motorcycle journalism.
@barryroberts2474
@barryroberts2474 4 жыл бұрын
As always a user friendly test, extremely practical report. If only I was 40 years younger!
@Spartanshaq777
@Spartanshaq777 4 жыл бұрын
Michael neeves is the best in the business! No mucking about and no shenanigans! Just business. 😎😎😎
@firebladeguy1956
@firebladeguy1956 4 жыл бұрын
Great way to do a final review of a bike, do more of these please.
@Pintuuuxo
@Pintuuuxo 4 жыл бұрын
Michael, it's always so nice to hear your comments. I'm already salivating looking at this bike. I have to try it before the winter in Portugal, if they at BMW have one here. (those sticky notes on the bike made this one of your best videos)
@tomdolby46
@tomdolby46 4 жыл бұрын
Really cool way of doing a review, love it. And I think I saw you on the A14 one morning a couple of months ago on this bike, was rather jealous 👍
@AlexanderGkamanis
@AlexanderGkamanis 4 жыл бұрын
MCN should be on TV!!!!!
@iamtherealzombie
@iamtherealzombie 4 жыл бұрын
Saying it has CF wheels, cruise control, heated grips, linked sat-nav while none of the other bikes you listed have any of those, let alone all of them and then saying it isn't worth 20 grand seems a bit odd to me.
@brakesforsnakes757
@brakesforsnakes757 4 жыл бұрын
He felt like BMW cheaped out in some areas as compared to Ducati, please watch where he talks about paint & plastic pieces.
@relate97
@relate97 4 жыл бұрын
Did we watch the same video? He literally said this is the only bike that doesn’t have heated grips
@Yamaprilia
@Yamaprilia 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but its got carbon wheels and best lcd dash so its better value than the others. But its not fun to ride compared to r1 and rsv4
@iamtherealzombie
@iamtherealzombie 4 жыл бұрын
@@relate97 We must have watched different videos, because he said it was the only one that HAS them. (though they are an option, I think, previous gen RR had them as standard)
@fido0825
@fido0825 3 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are super helpful and to-the-point...and I love to hear you speak. Kudos!
@Dubaiinit
@Dubaiinit 4 жыл бұрын
this is why Michael is at the forefont of motorcycle journalism.
@theincrediblesulk5543
@theincrediblesulk5543 4 жыл бұрын
Great content! Love the honesty too with regards would you buy one and is it worth the money. Would you say you enjoyed your time with the GSXR1000R more or less than the S1000rr? Also why the Rosso Corsa 2s vs the 3s? Thanks
@tristandrew5903
@tristandrew5903 4 жыл бұрын
So to confirm, the '19 S1000R outperforms against the previous long term test where you reviewed the '17 GSXR 1000 and in 2020 the S1000 is still best road bike? I can't wait to take the V4S out. I took the S1000 out today and it does everything very well - great stopping power, ferocious top end, great dash and quickshift but I can relate to your point, it almost felt characterless and clinical. I jumped back on my Gen1 Mille and rode away smiling when I expected it feel like a bag of spanners.
@richbrett7268
@richbrett7268 Жыл бұрын
funny i just wrote this to Rogase68 above: Rich Brett 1 second ago Hi yes i sold my MV F3 800 for that very reason -- now i find myself looking at s1000r's etc . funny thing is i came by a 2003 rsv which every time i go out on it i come back feeling better than i did on the MV ( the MV made you feel like you always could have and should have ridden it faster through a set of bends - which i thought was a bad mind set) I brought an indian FTR which is fun in many ways ( good engine but not a playful as feels to sit on as its long and heavy) but i think i will sell it in another year. i love my BMW R9T scrambler and a Husky Nuda. after 3 years what are your thoughts on the BMW rr.? cheers
@Bornie205
@Bornie205 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome review Michael. Lots of questions answered. Thanks pal
@joesheehan__
@joesheehan__ 4 жыл бұрын
Nice honest review! The RSV4 does have cruise too. And you missed a post it note, it fell behind the top yoke about 2/3rd of the way through the video 🤣
@andy44646
@andy44646 4 жыл бұрын
As usual a honest and great review. Thank you 😊. 20k wow!!
@rh_8599
@rh_8599 4 жыл бұрын
Great review as always, everytime i buy a naked bike i enjoy them for a few months but the wind blast just kills me so keep reverting back to a sportsbike and really like the idea of cruise control to be able to move around a bit more, have to find me a cheap 2018 bike
@NudaMan
@NudaMan 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Suzuki for the K5 GSXR 1000, bmw liked the K5 and hence how this beautiful bike had been overdeveloped for 12 years now lol
@mikewatson361
@mikewatson361 4 жыл бұрын
Great review and a cool format, just a shame one of the sticky notes flew away☹️ was it the one about keyless ignition or does this one have a key?
@dashford06
@dashford06 4 жыл бұрын
This one had a key.
@earl2865
@earl2865 4 жыл бұрын
Well organized and well thought out review
@baconbaconbobacon
@baconbaconbobacon 4 жыл бұрын
I would definitely look into getting this bike, seems like the one that has all the creature comforts even if you do have to pay for the M package, im sure its worth shelling out a few more clams for all of it.
@kalheer
@kalheer 4 жыл бұрын
Great review.. exactly what I been waiting for.. had my order in since March 2019 and its just confirmed my thoughts on sacking it off (as winters here now) and buy a Tuono 👍🏻
@TheBalrog111
@TheBalrog111 3 жыл бұрын
It almost looks like a police bike with the notes on it 😁. Quality review Neevsi and some great tyre tips 👍
@aeror115
@aeror115 4 жыл бұрын
Great content! Thanks for testing this monster guys💙🤜🤛
@aurorajones8481
@aurorajones8481 4 жыл бұрын
Great review, I just totaled my 18 RSV4 RF. Im on the mend for 3 months dammit. I was trying to pass an ass w/ no track time, he had a sloppy line that threw me off the rd and mountain. Split my pelvis in two had to be helicoptered back. Incredibly insurance is giving me 26k back!! Ill be on my R3, then Daytona prior to buying my new 1000 and im looking at the RSV4 1100 FW. Healing sucks. Never ride that close to anyone w/out track time... lesson learned. But I can fucking WALK!!! (not supposed to im locked into a wheelchair for another 3 weeks. Ill tear it up in PT! ;)
@richardpoulter2146
@richardpoulter2146 Жыл бұрын
The fork seals on BMWs are packed with grease when the grease gets warm it comes from the seal
@saltire546
@saltire546 4 жыл бұрын
Really great way of doing a review, does the uk bike have the big flat spot in 2nd gear saw a few video's where folks have gaind 40bhp in 2nd after a flash .Pity about the lack of clear coat over the paint.
@r1mac681
@r1mac681 4 жыл бұрын
Great review and this guy knows his onions. Spot on 👍👍🏍️
@karlosh9286
@karlosh9286 4 жыл бұрын
Probably the best review I've seen of any bike . Based on long term experience and well presented. Looks like an excellent bike, if you are going to do track days. I've even heard some argue the 47 BHP of an A2 bike is enough for the road, although I wouldn't go that far. On the road anything much more than 100 BHP is pretty much unusable. A 47 BHP bike will do the "ton" , and 100 BHP bikes do about 130 MPH and get to 60 MPH in about 4 seconds. However I would like one of these and take it on the track !
@jackmccourt6180
@jackmccourt6180 2 жыл бұрын
>100hp on the road is absolutely usable, not legally right enough but my 140hp ninja 1k can certainly open up on a nice straight no problem. My GS though makes a similar peak HP figure but the torque makes it absolute bliss for road driving.
@markkennedy2521
@markkennedy2521 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant piece Michael, I'm in 2 minds as to get one of these whenever they eventually turn up and trade my 2013 hp4, or keep said bike and get a 2nd naked street focused bike or XR...... what would you do
@bruderrudiger9574
@bruderrudiger9574 4 жыл бұрын
Sell the bike and get a hooker
@rmonified
@rmonified 4 жыл бұрын
3:33 could have mentioned- THEY FINALLY PUT THE DAMN TURN SIGNALS IN THE MIRRORS :-)
@nikkiantony7127
@nikkiantony7127 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting presentation and nicely detailed
@colincoleman2536
@colincoleman2536 3 жыл бұрын
Well done old chap excellent no nonsense review keep them coming.
@popeyepanther4519
@popeyepanther4519 4 жыл бұрын
Such a great review. I am so grateful. Hmmm, I had the 2010 version and paint was thin back then too, BMW needs to learn.
@GEBoord
@GEBoord 3 жыл бұрын
Same with suzuki
@Dubaiinit
@Dubaiinit 4 жыл бұрын
quality review, as ever.
@torgnyhaa
@torgnyhaa 4 жыл бұрын
In my country the bmw is 4000£ cheaper than the Ducati V4 so i'd take the bmw any day.
@jeanjacques9980
@jeanjacques9980 4 жыл бұрын
One of the post-it notes got away, it’s on the ground in the background.
@WD-sr8qz
@WD-sr8qz Жыл бұрын
Awesome review!
@sk2283
@sk2283 4 жыл бұрын
Aprilia RSV4 has cruise control !
@smokey9063
@smokey9063 4 жыл бұрын
You say it's not a 20k bike.. I plan to buy a used m sport where someones put everything on and decided they dont want it.. only problem is I only like the grey.. I'd pay 20k then.. I love the heated grips, sat nav, cruise control, and tyre pressure indicator.. also its rapid.. great review thanks..
@wazzer5293
@wazzer5293 4 жыл бұрын
I never tried one, but rumors saying 2 new features made to bmw latest bike but unsure which species😉. Does this s1000rr have above said for : 1. stabilty-levelling with no nose dive if hard front braking? 2. Throttle-auto-close if front hard braking? Just curious u not mentioned them or the features not in there. I love its idling engine sound.
@locationbmmiami3632
@locationbmmiami3632 4 жыл бұрын
great review ...very detailed ......really nice of you MCN
@Abc-ps9ox
@Abc-ps9ox 4 жыл бұрын
This or R1?
@johnmatsacos4692
@johnmatsacos4692 4 жыл бұрын
I recon I'll just aim for a 2015 re, more than enough as I'm coming off a busa
@Kumpen92
@Kumpen92 4 жыл бұрын
8:14 Sorry but the RSV4 has cruisecontrol aswell.
@timparkhurst8661
@timparkhurst8661 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing I enjoyed heavily about this 17' year FZ-09 I have, in the electronic rider aid suite, is the ABS sensors make gearing changes possible without a speedo recalibration. Do the electronics work? ABS, yes, too good, let ME slow down, turn it off. TCS, yes, always off though, use it like a valet feature or buddy bike. Throttle map power modes, meh, redundancy. This BMW just feels like another pond reflection of these digital intrusions to the motorcycle experience, which is doing no favors to helping grow motorcycle volume sales or enthusiasm if you ask me. I did, thoroughly find this review less than dull, Danke.
@Majster198706
@Majster198706 4 жыл бұрын
I sure u had fun on the NC500 😁 I think I see u in Aviemore when Harley Davidson was on it was u??
@Stclairm1
@Stclairm1 3 жыл бұрын
Wjat would you say is a bike or two that make you giggle on the street and are worth the price? I’m in the US. Love your videos. I’m only on the street.
@greggan100
@greggan100 4 жыл бұрын
Great review 👌👍
@j-ydu2428
@j-ydu2428 4 жыл бұрын
thank you all, bravo !
@Lee-in-oz
@Lee-in-oz 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Question for you, what's the undershirt your wearing and what's your thoughts on it.
@MrJohnnynapalm7
@MrJohnnynapalm7 4 жыл бұрын
Good detailed review 👍
@iamthemobey
@iamthemobey 4 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video. Very informative and I massively respect your opinion.
@s.s.lawtun6497
@s.s.lawtun6497 2 жыл бұрын
nice review for a future owner of s1000rr, brilient job.
@george.ptauner7767
@george.ptauner7767 4 жыл бұрын
Carbon fiber rims CRACKING!!!!!
@gspiggity
@gspiggity 3 жыл бұрын
love the post it idea, old skool like me
@RicViperskylogs
@RicViperskylogs 4 жыл бұрын
Great review! My only complaint is the fit and finish is and looks cheap. All the black plastic bits loom like recycled plastics.
@cameljockey10
@cameljockey10 4 жыл бұрын
really good stuff man thank you good review !!!
@ChaseN194
@ChaseN194 4 жыл бұрын
No one ever mentions the Fireblade with comfort. My 17 sp2 is MILES more comfortable than a zx10/gsxr/euro/r1
@Jaxxo11
@Jaxxo11 4 жыл бұрын
Comfort is very subjective
@expatbiker6598
@expatbiker6598 4 жыл бұрын
To Every motor video journalist. This is how it should be done. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾✌🏾
@ivicas3
@ivicas3 3 жыл бұрын
Love the honesty
@DeeJayEll
@DeeJayEll 4 жыл бұрын
No single man needs problems with his wrists!!
@maksummohammed6672
@maksummohammed6672 4 жыл бұрын
lol
@SkyPowers
@SkyPowers 4 жыл бұрын
WELLDONE ...thanks MCN
@user-fi4yd2kf6g
@user-fi4yd2kf6g 2 жыл бұрын
My dream bike!!
@sivonparansun
@sivonparansun 3 жыл бұрын
Love the postit note concept =)
@scotty2221
@scotty2221 4 жыл бұрын
Love the bike minus the comfort. Why why can't they make a fast bike with a phat seat and bars that are raised? Please BMW make one and the XR1000 doesn't count.
@mattsiegel1446
@mattsiegel1446 4 жыл бұрын
Retiring anytime soon? Would love your job!
@VonBlade
@VonBlade 4 жыл бұрын
New front brake lever and new can price straight up. Okay did you drop it?
@GaryJohnWalker1
@GaryJohnWalker1 4 жыл бұрын
Terrific summary. Cycle world's recent superbike group test reckoned the bmw's throtle/response felt a little remote or indirect. Even on euro bikes (US specs being severely limited), Would you agree?
@andrewrymell1
@andrewrymell1 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen several reports now saying its one of the best bikes, if not the best, to ride, but the reliability (of BMW in general) is not good, failure rates far above the Japanese bikes and down there with Indian and Moto Guzzi. Just wondered if you had any issues with the long termer or if anyone else has had any major issue? Asking not to slate the BMW, but because I do like and am tempted once the lockdown had finished. Cheers. (Not bothered with things like fork seals, more so anything that is a major pain).
@sonh788
@sonh788 4 жыл бұрын
As a track bike... would you take it over the Honda fireblade and Yamaha r1?
@dry509
@dry509 4 жыл бұрын
What would be an example of a smaller bike that would be more fun on the road?
@EpiceverythingProductions
@EpiceverythingProductions 4 жыл бұрын
Neeves would you get the new R1M over this?
@m0mgf
@m0mgf 4 жыл бұрын
So if you would not spend your own money on it for a road bike, what would you buy instead?
@walterwholle3364
@walterwholle3364 4 жыл бұрын
would you choose this bike or a new Honda 1000rr? please help me. they are both Excellent bikes :-)
@llerradish
@llerradish 4 жыл бұрын
Love it! M.N. knows!
@2burning2turning
@2burning2turning 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review.
@ehsan83
@ehsan83 4 жыл бұрын
1:15 so the acceleration out of a corner kills the tire. essentially a better rider who brakes less will have the tires last longer. correct? great review thank you
@neevesybikes
@neevesybikes 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Slow corner entry equals more throttle on the exit, worse tyre life and mpg. 👍
@ehsan83
@ehsan83 4 жыл бұрын
@@neevesybikes well obviously it takes some time for one to become faster and faster at corners. some tires need to be destroyed and probably some high sides and skidding. I think I should practice with a cheap bike first 😂
@mriwy
@mriwy 4 жыл бұрын
Michael, can you share some details on the tail bag you used? I have a hard time finding it. Thanks a lot in advance!
@two_wheel_zen
@two_wheel_zen 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting perspective of it not being so good for the road because of its potential. I'm upgrading to a new bike soon. What would you suggest for a do it all bike? Road and occasional track day. Something like MT09SP or Street Triple maybe?
@joeferreira4456
@joeferreira4456 4 жыл бұрын
Great way to review it.
@karmabrothercat
@karmabrothercat 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Sir, can you talk more about tire life and corner speed?
@cr500kev8
@cr500kev8 4 жыл бұрын
Wait a year or 2 for them to sort out the recalls then should be good.
@motorbiketoureruk
@motorbiketoureruk 4 жыл бұрын
Neevsy is the best reviewer , not to shabby rider either
@King88_8
@King88_8 4 жыл бұрын
That scuffed paint. Cant blame manufacturer but a plus review as always👍🏼 However, the bike... Thin paint, leaking shock, manufacturer crank quality issues ,, electronic warnings.. Hmmmm, i really wanted one, will wait for the next iteration or get the neww Blade
@Sanemancured
@Sanemancured 3 жыл бұрын
Ace. No nonsense appraisal:)
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