LAMA - Fun & Board Games w/ WEM

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5 жыл бұрын

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@Vysetron 5 жыл бұрын

Your last point hit the LAMA on the head. Knizia makes a particular kind of game that just works for a lot of folks. I happen to be one of them. Few rules, but hidden depth in places you'd never expect on the surface level. They're fun to explore in ways that few modern games are. I look forward to putting LAMA through its paces when it gets here.

@edmundengland 5 жыл бұрын

I really like the way you discuss this game. To go deep on a light game is difficult.

@boardgamegeek 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! -WEM

@dandurkin9735 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent analysis, Eric! I mocked up LAMA with Arboretum cards (while waiting for my order from Germany) and took it to Kublacon. It most certainly feels different at 3 compared to 5 players. I very much enjoy it. I think players need to open themselves to the game - to engage it and to explore it. The two players who whined the most about LAMA were also the quickest to 40 points.

@conillet 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks a ton, Eric, for the well-argued and well-deserved plea for a great design misunderstood by (too) many.

@TheGameBoyGeeks 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Eric for this insightful video. I'm really looking forward to getting the copy from Germany I ordered the day the nominees were announced. I will take your input on as I try to discover the more in this one!

@gerymclaughlin349 Жыл бұрын

Great video; we've had a lot of fun with LAMA. I hope you've discovered Party LAMA too by now - the couple of extra tweaks make it even better.

@otterbot 5 жыл бұрын

Eric, you just won the boardgaming Video des Jahres. If I could nominate you for the Diana Jones award for your contributions to my gaming, I would. May you one day become the Dalai LAMA of this game as you brilliantly represent the joy of uncovering a design and participate in the hobby for reasons that really resonate with me. As for me, I'm just gonna go re-watch your spectacular video interview with Reiner Knizia on "Thirty Years of Game Design" from Spiel 2015. Listening to him talk about how game design can "open the heart" is always a joy for me. Thank you.

@boardgamegeek 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words, Chris - and how did I miss making a Dalai LAMA reference?! So much better than calling someone a llamamaster... -WEM

@ninajiron5488 5 жыл бұрын

I love how passionate you are about games. And seeing how much you smile in this one, because you love the game...makes me smile too!

@jfeast5469 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome review! So worth the time it takes to watch. Great sounding game too!

@kotieerwee2593 5 жыл бұрын

You got me thouroughly excited to play this. Cant wait until this hits our shores.

@AhJong0 5 жыл бұрын

Hooray a more in depth piece of coverage! Thanks BGG! I was keeping a look out for this at the UK Games Expo but with no luck 😣

@miistercrayon 5 жыл бұрын

One of my favourite parts is the secret bluffing part. You really have to hide your disappointment with getting junk. By giving it away you can make the opponent choose to leave you with a whole heap of rubbish.

@boardgamegeek 5 жыл бұрын

I've noticed that I sometimes reach for a card - say a 6 when the top of the discard pile shows a 4 - because I think that the prior player will raise that number to a 5, but then they don't and now I can't play, which means I just gave away one of the cards in my hand. Sometimes it doesn't matter, but sometimes that knowledge will cause people to drop and stick you with big points. Still working to avoid tells! -WEM

@marcelrombouts8607 21 күн бұрын

Tom Vasel of Dice Tower underestimated this game for sure. The ability to follow up a card with the same card will disrupt the ability to complete cycles later on, possibly leaving folks with remaining cards hense penalty point. The rules allow you to hoard cards of the same vallue without additional penalty, disrupting other player's plans even further. If you empty your hand you can (also) get rid of a black 10-point chip so, yeah, I think I'll stop this round at exactly ten points. It is quite clever in all it deceptive simplicity.

@harleygrattan2851 5 жыл бұрын

You make good points. You adapt to the game has made me think about games I'll play in the future

@areallystupidguy630 Жыл бұрын

I enjoy this game a lot. It creates that great feeling you get with Knizia games where it has a low bar for entry but as you play you learn and really discover the game and find ways to optimize your strategy. The theme is a real shame though

@Babs11285 3 жыл бұрын

I just discovered this game yesterday and have already played 20 times! I absolutely love this game! I agree with you 100% on everything you said. The only thing is I did not like playing this game with only 2 players. It took forever for someone to get to 40 points and it was a little bit drawn out for me. Am I missing a nuance to the 2 player experience? I loved playing this game with 3 or more players.

@boardgamegeek 3 жыл бұрын

Two-player is a very different experience, and I think part of what changes is that you sometimes need to bail on a hand quickly when you think the damage will be minimal and you have a chance of catching the opponent with a lot of points. It all depends on what the first couple of turns is like... -WEM

@davidharding1070 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Eric for another fantastic video! I hope more “reviewers” begin to discuss/monologue their thoughts/feelings about a game to the level you do - studying the game, almost, finding its nuance/specialness. Perhaps that only comes if you play a game many times and let it grow and breathe??

@boardgamegeek 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comments, David! It can certainly take many plays sometimes before I feel like I have a handle on a game, even a simple game when it changes feel so much based on player count. I wish that I could just sit around and play a game non-stop all the time, but other work calls... -WEM

@JosephFlemming 5 жыл бұрын

Sounds better then an uno variant. Surprised there is nothing done to make the colors do something special.

@boardgamegeek 5 жыл бұрын

The colors = the numbers. All 6s are red, all 5s are orange, etc., so a rule applying only to the colors would also affect the numbers. -WEM

@Traumtheater0 5 жыл бұрын

Surprised there was nothing done to make the game special.

@boardgamegeek 5 жыл бұрын

@@Traumtheater0 • But the game is already special! -WEM

@Nettersplays 5 жыл бұрын

Nice Review! I played Lama over 10 times and I feel like something is there more than it's simple rules. I've tried it at different player counts with different players and even attempted different strategies, but it keeps falling flat for me. Don't get me wrong, the game play is fun and everyone for the most part enjoys that because of it's familiarity to games from our childhood. I think the scoring makes the game fall apart. I hear a lot of complaints from players that the game takes too long. There is a lot of fluctuation between getting a small amount of chips and then turning in your big 10 point chip. I'm curious how you feel about the scoring and if you have run into the same complaints as I have. Thanks again!

@boardgamegeek 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the question! I haven't heard complaints about the scoring in our games. Sometimes people collect 15 or more points in a round and rocket over the 40-point threshold; sometimes scoring drags along with people getting only a few points for round after round; sometimes someone skirts danger at ~35 points for several rounds, then they win and someone else is suddenly on the hot seat. I love the scoring variability in LAMA and other games because it makes each playing of those games feel different and tell a different story. I suppose that if players A-B-C-D each won a game in turn, then scored ~10 points in the other three rounds, and this repeated for 8-12 rounds, then maybe I would grow irritated - but I've had plenty of games of Tichu in which teams seesaw at the same point totals for 5-6 rounds, and I still love that game, so maybe not. -WEM